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Text -- 1 Chronicles 4:23 (NET)

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Wesley: 1Ch 4:23 - -- He seems to oppose their present servitude to their former glory, and to shew their mean spirits that had rather tarry among the Heathen to do their d...
He seems to oppose their present servitude to their former glory, and to shew their mean spirits that had rather tarry among the Heathen to do their drudgery, than return to Jerusalem to serve God and enjoy their freedom.

Wesley: 1Ch 4:23 - -- Of Babylon: esteeming it a greater honour to serve that earthly monarch in the meanest employments, than to serve the king of kings in his temple.
Of Babylon: esteeming it a greater honour to serve that earthly monarch in the meanest employments, than to serve the king of kings in his temple.
JFB -> 1Ch 4:22-23
JFB: 1Ch 4:22-23 - -- "And these are ancient things" seems a strange rendering of a proper name; and, besides, it conveys a meaning that has no bearing on the record. The f...
"And these are ancient things" seems a strange rendering of a proper name; and, besides, it conveys a meaning that has no bearing on the record. The following improved translation has been suggested: "Sojourned in Moab, but returned to Beth-lehem and Adaberim-athekim. These and the inhabitants of Netaim and Gedera were potters employed by the king in his own work." Gedera or Gederoth, and Netaim, belonged to the tribe of Judah, and lay on the southeast border of the Philistines' territory (Jos 15:36; 2Ch 28:18).
Clarke -> 1Ch 4:23
Clarke: 1Ch 4:23 - -- These were the potters - "These are the disciples of the law, for whose sake the world was created; who preside in judgment, and establish the world...
These were the potters - "These are the disciples of the law, for whose sake the world was created; who preside in judgment, and establish the world; and they build and perfect the fallen down house of Israel: they dwelt there with the Shechinah of the King of the world, in the study of the law and the intercalation or months, and determining the commencement of years and festivals: and they computed the times from heaven in the days of Ruth, the mother of kingdoms, to the days of Solomon the king."- T. I am afraid this paraphrase gives us as little light as the text itself, which speaks of potters, and those who dwelt among plants and hedges. They were probably brickmakers; perhaps potters also, who had their dwelling in low grounds, and fabricated the clay into pots and bricks that was digged up in forming fences in the king’ s domains.
TSK -> 1Ch 4:23

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Barnes -> 1Ch 4:23
Barnes: 1Ch 4:23 - -- Among plants and hedges - Rather, "in Netaim and Gederah"Jos 15:36. With the king - Or, probably, "on the king’ s property."Both Dav...
Poole -> 1Ch 4:23
Poole: 1Ch 4:23 - -- These were the potters or rather, these are; for he seems to oppose their present servitude to their former glory and to show their low and mean spir...
These were the potters or rather, these are; for he seems to oppose their present servitude to their former glory and to show their low and mean spirits, that had rather tarry among the heathen to do their drudgery, than return to Jerusalem to serve God and enjoy their freedom.
There they dwelt or tarried or now dwell , when their brethren are returned.
With the king of Babylon or Persia; esteeming it a greater honour and happiness to serve that earthly monarch in the meanest employments, than to serve the King of kings in his temple, and in his most noble and heavenly work.
Haydock -> 1Ch 4:23
Haydock: 1Ch 4:23 - -- Potters. Hebrew yotserim, may also designate some family, as it seems improbable that the princes, in Moab, should be reduced to so mean a condi...
Potters. Hebrew yotserim, may also designate some family, as it seems improbable that the princes, in Moab, should be reduced to so mean a condition. But we have many examples of such a fall; (Haydock) and it is supposed, that these descendants of Sela were employed by the king of Babylon, at Nethaim and Gadera. (Calmet) ---
Hedges. These are the proper names of the places where they dwelt. In Hebrew, Netahim and Gedera. (Challoner) ---
Septuagint, "Ataim and Gadera." (Haydock) ---
The correct Roman edition of the Vulgate prints these words, plantationibus et Sepibus, with large letters, to imply as much. (Menochius) ---
King; David. (Sa) (Menochius) ---
Many of the tribe of Juda attended David, while he was forced to flee before Saul, and to hide himself in unfrequented places. Some of them might be these Yotserim, or they might follow the profession of potters. (Haydock) ---
"With the king they were powerful in his kingdom, and dwelt there." (Septuagint) (Haydock) ---
The Vulgate often give the meaning of proper names. (Du Hamel)
Gill -> 1Ch 4:23
Gill: 1Ch 4:23 - -- These were the potters,.... Or are the potters; the posterity of those men, who were so famous in their day, are now of mean employments: some of them...
These were the potters,.... Or are the potters; the posterity of those men, who were so famous in their day, are now of mean employments: some of them made earthen pots; and some of them
dwelt among plants and hedges; or were employed in planting gardens and orchards, and making fences for them; or, as others think, "dwelt in Netaim and Gadara", cities in the tribe of Judah:
there they dwelt with the king for his work; to make pots, plant gardens, and set hedges for him; either for the king of Judah, or it may be for the king of Babylon, where they were carried captive, and now chose to remain, doing those servile works for the king, without the city, in the fields.

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NET Notes -> 1Ch 4:23
NET Notes: 1Ch 4:23 Heb “and those who lived in Netaim and Gederah; with the king in his work they lived there.”
Geneva Bible -> 1Ch 4:23
Geneva Bible: 1Ch 4:23 These [were] the potters, and those that dwelt among plants and hedges: ( g ) there they dwelt with the king for his work.
( g ) They were David's ga...

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TSK Synopsis -> 1Ch 4:1-43
TSK Synopsis: 1Ch 4:1-43 - --1 The posterity of Judah by Caleb, the son of Hur.5 Of Ashur, the posthumous son Hezron.9 Of Jabez, and his prayer.11 The other families of the same s...
Maclaren -> 1Ch 4:23
Maclaren: 1Ch 4:23 - --The King's Potters
There They Dwelt With The King For His Work.'--1 Chron. 4:23.
IN these dry lists of names which abound in Chronicles, we now and t...
MHCC -> 1Ch 4:1-43
MHCC: 1Ch 4:1-43 - --In this chapter we have a further account of Judah, the most numerous and most famous of all the tribes; also an account of Simeon. The most remarkabl...
Matthew Henry -> 1Ch 4:11-23
Matthew Henry: 1Ch 4:11-23 - -- We may observe in these verses, 1. That here is a whole family of craftsmen, handicraft tradesmen, that applied themselves to all sorts of manufactu...
Keil-Delitzsch -> 1Ch 4:23
Keil-Delitzsch: 1Ch 4:23 - --
"These are the potters and the inhabitants of Netaim and Gedera."It is doubtful whether המּה refers to all the descendants of Shelah, or only to...
Constable: 1Ch 1:1--9:44 - --I. ISRAEL'S HISTORICAL ROOTS chs. 1--9
"The fact that the author of 1 and 2 Chronicles devoted nine chapters out...

Constable: 1Ch 4:1--7:40 - --B. The House of Israel chs. 4-7
The writer's next concern was to trace the line of people to whom and th...




