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Text -- Job 12:20 (NET)

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12:20 He deprives the trusted advisers of speech and takes away the discernment of elders.
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Wesley: Job 12:20 - -- By taking away or restraining the gift of utterance from them. Or, by taking away their understanding which should direct their speech.

By taking away or restraining the gift of utterance from them. Or, by taking away their understanding which should direct their speech.

Wesley: Job 12:20 - -- Of those wise and experienced counsellors, that were trusted by the greatest princes.

Of those wise and experienced counsellors, that were trusted by the greatest princes.

JFB: Job 12:20 - -- Rather, "those secure in their eloquence"; for example, the speakers in the gate (Isa 3:3) [BEZA].

Rather, "those secure in their eloquence"; for example, the speakers in the gate (Isa 3:3) [BEZA].

JFB: Job 12:20 - -- Literally, "taste," that is, insight or spiritual discernment, which experience gives the aged. The same Hebrew word is applied to Daniel's wisdom in ...

Literally, "taste," that is, insight or spiritual discernment, which experience gives the aged. The same Hebrew word is applied to Daniel's wisdom in interpretation (Dan 2:14).

Clarke: Job 12:20 - -- He removeth away the speech of the trusty - The faithful counsellor and the eloquent orator avail nothing: Quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ;...

He removeth away the speech of the trusty - The faithful counsellor and the eloquent orator avail nothing: Quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ; "God infatuates those whom he is determined to destroy."The writer might have had his eyes on Isa 3:1-3, which the reader will do well to consult

Clarke: Job 12:20 - -- The understanding of the aged - זקנים zekenim signifies the same here as our word elders or elder-men; which includes in itself the two idea...

The understanding of the aged - זקנים zekenim signifies the same here as our word elders or elder-men; which includes in itself the two ideas of seniority, or considerably advanced age, and official authority. These can do no more to save a state which God designs to destroy, notwithstanding their great political wisdom and knowledge, than the child who can neither reason nor speak.

Defender: Job 12:20 - -- This possibly refers to the confusion of tongues at Babel. The previous verse (Job 12:19) had said God "overthroweth the mighty," possibly referring t...

This possibly refers to the confusion of tongues at Babel. The previous verse (Job 12:19) had said God "overthroweth the mighty," possibly referring to Nimrod, the "mighty hunter before the Lord" (Gen 10:9), whose rebellion against God had led God to confuse the languages and disperse the nations from Babel."

TSK: Job 12:20 - -- the speech of the trusty : Heb. the lip of the faithful, Pro 10:21, Pro 12:19, Pro 12:22 taketh : Job 12:24, Job 17:4, Job 32:9, Job 39:17; Isa 3:1-3

the speech of the trusty : Heb. the lip of the faithful, Pro 10:21, Pro 12:19, Pro 12:22

taketh : Job 12:24, Job 17:4, Job 32:9, Job 39:17; Isa 3:1-3

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Barnes: Job 12:20 - -- He removeth away the speech of the trusty - Margin, "lip of the faithful.""He takes away the lip,"that is, he takes away the power of giving sa...

He removeth away the speech of the trusty - Margin, "lip of the faithful.""He takes away the lip,"that is, he takes away the power of giving safe counsel or good advice. The "trusty"or "faithful"here refer to those of age and experience, and on whose counsel men are accustomed to rely. The meaning here is, that their most sagacious anticipations are disappointed, their wisest schemes are foiled. They fail-in their calculations of the coarse of events, and the arrangements of Providence are such that they could not anticipate what was to occur.

The understanding of the aged - To whom the young were accustomed to look up with deference and respect. The meaning here is, that they who were accustomed to give wise and sound advice, if left by God, give vain and foolish counsels.

Poole: Job 12:20 - -- Removeth away the speech either, 1. By taking away or restraining the gift of utterance from them, that they should not be able to express their tho...

Removeth away the speech either,

1. By taking away or restraining the gift of utterance from them, that they should not be able to express their thoughts with such clearness and power as they used to do; which God oft doth to wise and eloquent men. Or,

2. By bringing them into such straits and troubles that they know not what to say or advise. Or,

3. By taking away their understanding, which should suggest and direct their speech, as it here follows. Or,

4. By permitting them to betray their trust, and either not to speak when they should, or to speak otherwise than they should and to use their wit and rhetoric not to direct, but to deceive, and so destroy a prince.

Of the trusty i.e. of those wise and eloquent counsellors that were, and for their great abilities might be, trusted by the greatest princes with all their affairs.

Gill: Job 12:20 - -- He removeth away the speech of the trusty,.... Speech is proper to mankind, and a benefit unto them, whereby they can converse together, and communica...

He removeth away the speech of the trusty,.... Speech is proper to mankind, and a benefit unto them, whereby they can converse together, and communicate their minds to each other; this is the gift of God, he gives to men in common the faculty of speaking; to some the tongue of the learned to speak various tongues, either in an ordinary or in an extraordinary manner; and he that gives can take away; he that made man's mouth or lip can make it speechless, as he does at death; when he takes away man's breath, he takes away his speech; the state of the dead is a state of silence; and sometimes he does it while living, by striking dumb, as he did Zechariah the father of John the Baptist; and even without so doing, as in the builders of Babel, he took away the speech they had, and gave them another; and sometimes he suffers not men to speak what they would, but what is contrary to their inclinations and desires, as in Balaam, who would willingly have cursed Israel, but could not. Now that God should take away by any means the speech of liars, and faithless persons, as Ananias and Sapphira, by striking them dead, Act 5:1; and of false teachers, deceivers, and bold blasphemers of God, and of his Son, and of the blessed Spirit, whose mouths ought to be stopped, is no wonder; but it seems strange that he should remove the speech of "trusty" or "faithful" x men, that speak the truth, and are to be credited and believed; and as the preceding words are understood of ecclesiastic persons, these may be continued concerning them; and the character agrees with ministers of the word, who are in trusted with the rich treasure of it; that is put in earthen vessels, and committed to the trust of faithful men; who appear to be such when they speak the word faithfully, declare the whole counsel of God, and keep back nothing profitable to men; when they speak plainly, without ambiguity, and sincerely, without mixing or adulterating it; and are faithful as to God, who has appointed them, and put them into the ministry, so to the souls of men under their care: now God sometimes takes away the speech of these, not by changing their voice, or ordering them, instead of the gracious promises of the Gospel, to deliver out the menaces and threatenings of the law; but either by commanding them to be dumb and silent, and speak no more to an incorrigible and rebellious people; as Ezekiel was bid to prophesy no more to the house of Israel, and the apostles to preach no more to the Jews; or by suffering them to be silenced by the edicts of wicked princes, and their violent persecutions of them, so that the teachers of men are removed into corners, and not to be seen or heard; and also by death, when their faces are no more seen, and their speech no more heard. Some, both Jewish and Christian interpreters, derive the word here used from the root נאם, "to speak", and render it "speakers" or "orators" y; so Mr. Broughton translates the words, "he bereaveth the orators of lip"; he takes away their eloquence from them, deprives them of their speaking well, and strips them of their natural and acquired abilities, by which they have become good speakers; and such who use their talents well in this way are beneficial to a commonwealth, and it is a loss when they are removed, or their speech removed from them, see Isa 3:3;

and taketh away the understanding of the aged; or "elders" z, as Mr. Broughton, either in age or office; elders in age, with whom understanding, reason, judgment, counsel, and wisdom, by all which the word is interpreted, may be thought to be, and it is expected they should, and oftentimes are, though not always; yet all this God can take away, and does when he pleases, and they become like children in understanding; through the infirmities of old age their memories fail them, their reason is impaired, their understanding and judgment are weakened, and they become unfit to give advice themselves, and are easily imposed on, and drawn aside by others, as may be observed in Solomon, the wisest of men, when he was grown old. This is to be understood of the natural understanding in things natural and civil, but not of the spiritual understanding, which is never taken away, but rather increased in old age; the true light of grace shines more and more unto the perfect day; it is a gift of God without repentance, which he never revokes and removes: it may intend the natural "taste" a, as the word may be rendered; this is often and generally taken away from the aged, as in old Barzillai, who could not taste what he ate and drank, as to distinguish and relish it, 2Sa 19:35; but not the spiritual taste, of the Lord as gracious, of the good word of God, and the fruits of divine grace; the taste and savour of which remain with the people of God in old age; or this may design men in office, either civil magistrates, called senators, the elders of the people, judges, and counsellors, who instead of being taught more wisdom, which their offices require, sometimes become infatuated, their understanding of civil things is taken away from them, their wise counsels become brutish, and they like children; or ecclesiastic persons, elders of churches, who, having talents for public usefulness, either neglect them, or make an ill use of them, and therefore are taken away from them; their right arm is dried up, and their right eye darkened, Mat 25:28.

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Commentary -- Verse Notes / Footnotes

NET Notes: Job 12:20 Heb “taste,” meaning “opinion” or “decision.”

Geneva Bible: Job 12:20 He removeth away the speech of the ( l ) trusty, and taketh away the understanding of the aged. ( l ) He causes their words to have no credit, which ...

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Commentary -- Verse Range Notes

TSK Synopsis: Job 12:1-25 - --1 Job maintains himself against his friends that reprove him.7 He acknowledges the general doctrine of God's omnipotence.

MHCC: Job 12:12-25 - --This is a noble discourse of Job concerning the wisdom, power, and sovereignty of God, in ordering all the affairs of the children of men, according t...

Matthew Henry: Job 12:12-25 - -- This is a noble discourse of Job's concerning the wisdom, power, and sovereignty of God, in ordering and disposing of all the affairs of the childre...

Keil-Delitzsch: Job 12:17-21 - -- 17 He leadeth away counsellors stripped of their robes, And maketh judges fools. 18 The authority of kings He looseth, And bindeth their loins wi...

Constable: Job 4:1--14:22 - --B. The First Cycle of Speeches between Job and His Three Friends chs. 4-14 The two soliloquies of Job (c...

Constable: Job 12:1--14:22 - --6. Job's first reply to Zophar chs. 12-14 In these chapters Job again rebutted his friends and t...

Constable: Job 12:1--13:20 - --Job's repudiation of his friends 12:1-13:19 Verse 2 is irony; his companions were not as...

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Introduction / Outline

JFB: Job (Book Introduction) JOB A REAL PERSON.--It has been supposed by some that the book of Job is an allegory, not a real narrative, on account of the artificial character of ...

JFB: Job (Outline) THE HOLINESS OF JOB, HIS WEALTH, &c. (Job 1:1-5) SATAN, APPEARING BEFORE GOD, FALSELY ACCUSES JOB. (Job 1:6-12) SATAN FURTHER TEMPTS JOB. (Job 2:1-8)...

TSK: Job (Book Introduction) A large aquatic animal, perhaps the extinct dinosaur, plesiosaurus, the exact meaning is unknown. Some think this to be a crocodile but from the desc...

TSK: Job 12 (Chapter Introduction) Overview Job 12:1, Job maintains himself against his friends that reprove him; Job 12:7, He acknowledges the general doctrine of God’s omnipoten...

Poole: Job 12 (Chapter Introduction) CHAPTER 12 Job’ s answer: his friends’ self-conceit: the miserable always despised, though upright; the wicked prosper, Job 12:1-6 . God...

MHCC: Job (Book Introduction) This book is so called from Job, whose prosperity, afflictions, and restoration, are here recorded. He lived soon after Abraham, or perhaps before tha...

MHCC: Job 12 (Chapter Introduction) (Job 12:1-5) Job reproves his friends. (Job 12:6-11) The wicked often prosper. (Job 12:12-25) Job speaks of the wisdom and power of God.

Matthew Henry: Job (Book Introduction) An Exposition, with Practical Observations, of The Book of Job This book of Job stands by itself, is not connected with any other, and is therefore to...

Matthew Henry: Job 12 (Chapter Introduction) In this and the two following chapters we have Job's answer to Zophar's discourse, in which, as before, he first reasons with his friends (see Job ...

Constable: Job (Book Introduction) Introduction Title This book, like many others in the Old Testament, got its name from...

Constable: Job (Outline) Outline I. Prologue chs. 1-2 A. Job's character 1:1-5 B. Job's calamitie...

Constable: Job Job Bibliography Andersen, Francis I. Job. Tyndale Old Testament Commentaries series. Leicester, Eng. and Downe...

Haydock: Job (Book Introduction) THE BOOK OF JOB. INTRODUCTION. This Book takes its name from the holy man, of whom it treats; who, according to the more probable opinion, was ...

Gill: Job (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO JOB This book, in the Hebrew copies, generally goes by this name, from Job, who is however the subject, if not the writer of it. In...

Gill: Job 12 (Chapter Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO JOB 12 In this and the two following chapter Job makes answer to Zophar's discourse in the former; who having represented him as an...

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