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Text -- Job 13:12 (NET)

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13:12 Your maxims are proverbs of ashes; your defenses are defenses of clay.
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Wesley: Job 13:12 - -- Mouldering and coming to nothing. And the consideration of our mortality should make us afraid of offending God. Your mementos are like unto ashes, co...

Mouldering and coming to nothing. And the consideration of our mortality should make us afraid of offending God. Your mementos are like unto ashes, contemptible and unprofitable.

JFB: Job 13:12 - -- "proverbial maxims," so called because well remembered.

"proverbial maxims," so called because well remembered.

JFB: Job 13:12 - -- Or, "parables of ashes"; the image of lightness and nothingness (Isa 44:20).

Or, "parables of ashes"; the image of lightness and nothingness (Isa 44:20).

JFB: Job 13:12 - -- Rather, "entrenchments"; those of clay, as opposed to those of stone, are easy to be destroyed; so the proverbs, behind which they entrench themselves...

Rather, "entrenchments"; those of clay, as opposed to those of stone, are easy to be destroyed; so the proverbs, behind which they entrench themselves, will not shelter them when God shall appear to reprove them for their injustice to Job.

Clarke: Job 13:12 - -- Your remembrances are like unto ashes - Your memorable sayings are proverbs of dust. This is properly the meaning of the original: זכרניכם ...

Your remembrances are like unto ashes - Your memorable sayings are proverbs of dust. This is properly the meaning of the original: זכרניכם משלי אפר zichroneycem mishley epher . This he speaks in reference to the ancient and reputedly wise sayings which they had so copiously quoted against him

Clarke: Job 13:12 - -- Your bodies to bodies of clay - This clause is variously translated: Your swelling heaps are swelling heaps of mire. That is, Your high-flown speech...

Your bodies to bodies of clay - This clause is variously translated: Your swelling heaps are swelling heaps of mire. That is, Your high-flown speeches are dark, involved, and incoherent; they are all sound, no sense; great swelling words, either of difficult or no meaning, or of no point as applicable to my case.

TSK: Job 13:12 - -- remembrances : Job 18:17; Exo 17:14; Psa 34:16, Psa 102:12, Psa 109:15; Pro 10:7; Isa 26:14 ashes : Gen 18:27 to bodies : Job 4:19; Gen 2:7; 2Co 5:1

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Commentary -- Word/Phrase Notes (per Verse)

Barnes: Job 13:12 - -- Your remembrances are like unto ashes - There has been a considerable variety in the interpretation of this verse. The meaning in our common ve...

Your remembrances are like unto ashes - There has been a considerable variety in the interpretation of this verse. The meaning in our common version is certainly not very clear. The Vulgate renders it, Memoria vestra comparabitur cineri . The Septuagint, Ἀποβήσεται δὲ ὑμῶν τὸ γαυρίαμα Ἶσα σποδᾷ Apobēsetai de humōn to gauriama isa spodō - "your boasting shall pass away like ashes."Dr. Good renders it, "Dust are your stored-up sayings."Noyes, "Your maxims are words of dust."The word rendered "remembrances" זכרון zı̂krôn means properly "remembrance, memory,"Jos 4:7; Eze 12:14; then a "memento,"or "record;"then a "memorable saying, a maxim."This is probably the meaning here; and the reference is to the apothegms or proverbs which they had so profusely uttered, and which they regarded as so profound and worthy of attention, but which Job was disposed to regard as most common-place, and to treat with contempt.

Are like unto ashes - That is, they are valueless. See the notes at Isa 44:20. Their maxims had about the same relation to true wisdom which ashes have to substantial and nutritious food. The Hebrew here ( אפר משׁלי mâshaly 'êpher ) is rather, "are parables of ashes;"- the word משׁל mâshâl meaning similitude, parable, proverb. This interpretation gives more force and beauty to the passage.

Your bodies - - גביכם gabēykem Vulgate, " cervices ."Septuagint, τὸ δὲ σῶμα πήλινον to de sōma pēlinon - but the body is clay. The Hebrew word גב gab , means something gibbous (from where the word "gibbous"is derived), convex, arched; hence, the "back"of animals or human beings, Eze 10:12; the boss of a shield or buckler - the "gibbous,"or exterior convex part - Job 15:26; and then, according to Gesenius, an entrenchment, a fortress, a strong-hold. According to this interpretation, the passage here means, that the arguments behind which they entrenched themselves were like clay. They could not resist an attack made upon them, but would be easily thrown down, like mud walls. Grotius renders it, "Your towers (of defense) are tumult of clay."Rosenmuller remarks on the verse that the ancients were accustomed to inscribe sentences of valuable historical facts on pillars. If these were engraved on stone, they would be permanent; if on pillars covered with clay, they would soon be obliterated. On a pillar or column at Aleandria, the architect cut his own name at the base deep in the stone. On the plaster or stucco with which the column was covered, he inscribed the name of the person to whose honor it was reared. The consequence was, that that name became soon obliterated; his own then appeared, and was permanent. But the meaning here is rather, that the apothegms and maxims behind which they entrenched themselves were like mud walls, and could not withstand an attack.

Poole: Job 13:12 - -- Your remembrances either, 1. Actively, i.e. your memorials, or your discourses and arguments, by which you design to bring things to my remembrance....

Your remembrances either,

1. Actively, i.e. your memorials, or your discourses and arguments, by which you design to bring things to my remembrance. So he might possibly allude to that passage, Job 4:7 . Remember, I pray thee , &c. That and all your other mementos are like unto ashes , i.e. contemptible and unprofitable, Heb. are parables, or speeches, of dust, or ashes . Or,

2. Passively; all that which is most excellent and memorable in you, your wealth, and dignity, and wit, and reputation, or whatsoever it is for which you expect or desire to be remembered, it is all but poor despicable dust and ashes. And therefore you have just reason to abhor yourselves, and to dread the Divine Majesty, as I now advised you.

Your bodies though they be not full of sores and boils as mine is, yet they are but dust, and to dust they shall return as well as mine. Heb. your backs , which, being the strongest part of the body, is put for the whole body. Or, your eminencies, or excellencies , as this word most properly signifies, as Hebricians observe; so it answers to their memorables. All those things wherein you do, or think that you do, excel others, are but like eminencies, or lumps, or heaps of clay, vain and useless things, if compared with the excellencies of God. Or, your heights , i.e. your lofty discourses, are like clay, i.e. without solidity and strength.

Haydock: Job 13:12 - -- Necks. Septuagint, "body." Hebrew also, (Haydock) "heights," (Calmet) or "fortifications." (Grotius)

Necks. Septuagint, "body." Hebrew also, (Haydock) "heights," (Calmet) or "fortifications." (Grotius)

Gill: Job 13:12 - -- Your remembrances are like unto ashes,.... Either of things they put Job in remembrance of, the mementos which they had suggested to him; see Job 4:7...

Your remembrances are like unto ashes,.... Either of things they put Job in remembrance of, the mementos which they had suggested to him; see Job 4:7; or the things which they had brought forth out of their memories, the instances they had given of what had been in the world, the arguments, objections, and reasonings, they had made use of in this controversy; their "memorable sentences" e, as some render it, were of no more moment and importance than ashes, and easily blown away like them; or whatsoever was memorable in them, or they thought would perpetuate their memory hereafter, as their houses and lands, and towns and cities, called by their names, these memorials should perish, Psa 49:11; or their wealth and riches, their honour and glory, their learning, wisdom, and knowledge, all should fade, and come to nothing; the memory of the just indeed is blessed, the righteous are had in everlasting remembrance, because of their everlasting righteousness; but as anything else, that may be thought to be a remembrance of man, it is but as ashes, of little worth, gone, and often trampled upon; and men should remember that they are but dust and ashes, as Aben Ezra f observes, even in their best estate, in comparison of the excellency of God, before spoken of; and as Abraham confessed in the presence of God, Gen 18:27;

your bodies to bodies of clay; that is, are like to bodies of clay, to such as are made of clay after the similitude of human bodies; and such are the bodies of men themselves, they are of the earth, earthly, they are houses of clay, which have their foundation in the dust; earthen vessels, and earthly houses of this tabernacle, poor, mean, frail, brittle things, are crushed before the moth, and much more before the Almighty; the word is by some rendered "eminencies", the most eminent men; what is most eminent in them are like to "eminences of clay" g, or heaps of dirt: some interpret this, as the former expression, of their words, reasonings, arguments, and objections; which though great swelling words, were vain and empty, mere bubbles, and though reckoned strong reasonings, unanswerable arguments, and objections, had no strength in them, but were to be easily thrown down like hillocks of clay; and though thought to be like shields, or high and strong fortresses, as some h take the word to signify, yet are but clayey ones.

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Commentary -- Verse Notes / Footnotes

NET Notes: Job 13:12 Any defense made with clay would crumble on impact.

Geneva Bible: Job 13:12 Your ( d ) remembrances [are] like unto ashes, your bodies to bodies of clay. ( d ) Your fame will come to nothing.

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Commentary -- Verse Range Notes

TSK Synopsis: Job 13:1-28 - --1 Job reproves his friends for partiality.14 He professes his confidence in God; and entreats to know his own sins, and God's purpose in afflicting hi...

MHCC: Job 13:1-12 - --With self-preference, Job declared that he needed not to be taught by them. Those who dispute are tempted to magnify themselves, and lower their breth...

Matthew Henry: Job 13:1-12 - -- Job here warmly expresses his resentment of the unkindness of his friends. I. He comes up with them as one that understood the matter in dispute as ...

Keil-Delitzsch: Job 13:12-16 - -- 12 Your memorable words are proverbs of dust, Your strongholds are become strongholds of clay! 13 Leave me in peace, and I will speak, And let wh...

Constable: Job 4:1--14:22 - --B. The First Cycle of Speeches between Job and His Three Friends chs. 4-14 The two soliloquies of Job (c...

Constable: Job 12:1--14:22 - --6. Job's first reply to Zophar chs. 12-14 In these chapters Job again rebutted his friends and t...

Constable: Job 12:1--13:20 - --Job's repudiation of his friends 12:1-13:19 Verse 2 is irony; his companions were not as...

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Introduction / Outline

JFB: Job (Book Introduction) JOB A REAL PERSON.--It has been supposed by some that the book of Job is an allegory, not a real narrative, on account of the artificial character of ...

JFB: Job (Outline) THE HOLINESS OF JOB, HIS WEALTH, &c. (Job 1:1-5) SATAN, APPEARING BEFORE GOD, FALSELY ACCUSES JOB. (Job 1:6-12) SATAN FURTHER TEMPTS JOB. (Job 2:1-8)...

TSK: Job (Book Introduction) A large aquatic animal, perhaps the extinct dinosaur, plesiosaurus, the exact meaning is unknown. Some think this to be a crocodile but from the desc...

TSK: Job 13 (Chapter Introduction) Overview Job 13:1, Job reproves his friends for partiality; Job 13:14, He professes his confidence in God; and entreats to know his own sins, and ...

Poole: Job 13 (Chapter Introduction) CHAPTER 13 Job’ s friends not wiser than he: he would reason with God; but they were liars, and talked deceitfully for God, who would search a...

MHCC: Job (Book Introduction) This book is so called from Job, whose prosperity, afflictions, and restoration, are here recorded. He lived soon after Abraham, or perhaps before tha...

MHCC: Job 13 (Chapter Introduction) (Job 13:1-12) Job reproves his friends. (Job 13:13-22) He professes his confidence in God. (Job 13:23-28) Job entreats to know his sins.

Matthew Henry: Job (Book Introduction) An Exposition, with Practical Observations, of The Book of Job This book of Job stands by itself, is not connected with any other, and is therefore to...

Matthew Henry: Job 13 (Chapter Introduction) Job here comes to make application of what he had said in the foregoing chapter; and now we have him not in so good a temper as he was in then: for...

Constable: Job (Book Introduction) Introduction Title This book, like many others in the Old Testament, got its name from...

Constable: Job (Outline) Outline I. Prologue chs. 1-2 A. Job's character 1:1-5 B. Job's calamitie...

Constable: Job Job Bibliography Andersen, Francis I. Job. Tyndale Old Testament Commentaries series. Leicester, Eng. and Downe...

Haydock: Job (Book Introduction) THE BOOK OF JOB. INTRODUCTION. This Book takes its name from the holy man, of whom it treats; who, according to the more probable opinion, was ...

Gill: Job (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO JOB This book, in the Hebrew copies, generally goes by this name, from Job, who is however the subject, if not the writer of it. In...

Gill: Job 13 (Chapter Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO JOB 13 Job begins this chapter by observing the extensiveness of his knowledge, as appeared from his preceding discourse, by which ...

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