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Text -- Job 17:16 (NET)

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17:16 Will it go down to the barred gates of death? Will we descend together into the dust?”
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 · Sheol the place of the dead


Dictionary Themes and Topics: STAVES | SHEOL | Job | Hell | ESCHATOLOGY OF THE OLD TESTAMENT | Doubting | Despondency | Death | Dead | BAR (2) | Afflictions and Adversities | more
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Commentary -- Word/Phrase Notes (per phrase)

Wesley: Job 17:16 - -- My hopes, of which he spake in the singular number, Job 17:15, which he here changes into the plural, as is usual in these poetical books.

My hopes, of which he spake in the singular number, Job 17:15, which he here changes into the plural, as is usual in these poetical books.

Wesley: Job 17:16 - -- Into the innermost parts of the pit: my hopes are dying, and will be buried in my grave. We must shortly be in the dust, under the bars of the pit, he...

Into the innermost parts of the pit: my hopes are dying, and will be buried in my grave. We must shortly be in the dust, under the bars of the pit, held fast there, 'till the general resurrection. All good men, if they cannot agree now will there rest together. Let the foresight of this cool the heat of all contenders, and moderate the disputers of this world.

JFB: Job 17:16 - -- Namely, my hopes shall be buried with me.

Namely, my hopes shall be buried with me.

JFB: Job 17:16 - -- (Isa 38:10). Rather, the wastes or solitudes of the pit (sheol, the unseen world).

(Isa 38:10). Rather, the wastes or solitudes of the pit (sheol, the unseen world).

JFB: Job 17:16 - -- The rest of me and my hope is in, &c. Both expire together. The word "rest" implies that man's ceaseless hopes only rob him of rest.

The rest of me and my hope is in, &c. Both expire together. The word "rest" implies that man's ceaseless hopes only rob him of rest.

Clarke: Job 17:16 - -- They shall go down to the bars of the pit - All that I have must descend into the depths of the grave. Thither are we all going; and there alone can...

They shall go down to the bars of the pit - All that I have must descend into the depths of the grave. Thither are we all going; and there alone can I rest. בדי baddey , which we translate bars, signifies also branches, distended limbs, or claws, and may here refer either to a personification of the grave, a monster who seizes on human bodies, and keeps them fast in his deadly gripe; or to the different branching-off-alleys in subterranean cemeteries, or catacombs, in which niches are made for the reception of different bodies

Clarke: Job 17:16 - -- When our rest together is in the dust - That is, according to some critics, My hope and myself shall descend together into the grave. It shall never...

When our rest together is in the dust - That is, according to some critics, My hope and myself shall descend together into the grave. It shall never be realized, for the time of my departure is at hand

In those times what deep shades hung on the state of man after death, and on every thing pertaining to the eternal world! Perplexity and uncertainty were the consequences; and a corresponding gloom often dwelt on the minds of even the best of the Old Testament believers. Job’ s friends, though learned in all the wisdom of the Arabians, connected with the advantages derivable from the Mosaic writings, and perhaps those of the earlier prophets, had little clear or distinct in their minds relative to all subjects post mortem, or of the invisible world. Job himself, though sometimes strongly confident, is often harassed with doubts and fears upon the subject, insomuch that his sayings and experience often appear contradictory. Perhaps it could not be otherwise; the true light was not then come: Jesus alone brought life and immortality to light by his Gospel.

TSK: Job 17:16 - -- the bars of the pit : Job 18:13, Job 18:14, Job 33:18-28; Psa 88:4-8, Psa 143:7; Isa 38:17, Isa 38:18; Jon 2:6 rest : Job 3:17-19; Eze 37:11; 2Co 1:9

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Commentary -- Word/Phrase Notes (per Verse)

Barnes: Job 17:16 - -- They shall go down - That is, my hopes shall go down. All the expectations that I have cherished of life and happiness, will descend there with...

They shall go down - That is, my hopes shall go down. All the expectations that I have cherished of life and happiness, will descend there with me. We have a similar expression when we say, that a man "has buried his hopes in the grave,"when he loses an only son.

To the bars of the pit - " Bars of Sheol"- שׁאול בד bad she 'ôl . Vulgate, "Profoundest deep."Septuagint, εἰς ᾅδην eis hadēn - to Hades. Sheol, or Hades, was supposed to be under the earth. Its entrance was by the grave as a gate that led to it. It was protected by bars - as prisons are - so that those who entered there could not escape; see the notes at Isa 14:9. It was a dark, gloomy dwelling, far away from light, and from the comforts which people enjoy in this life; see Job 10:21-22. To that dark world Job expected soon to descend; and though he did not regard that as properly a place of punishment, yet it was not a place of positive joy. It was a gloomy and wretched world - the land of darkness and of the shadow of death; and he looked to the certainty of going there not with joy, but with anguish and distress of heart. Had Job been favored with the clear and elevated views of heaven which we have in the Christian revelation, death to him would have lost its gloom.

We wonder, often, that so good a man expressed such a dread of death, and that he did not look more calmly into the future world. But to do him justice, we should place ourselves in his situation. We should lay aside all that is cheerful and glad in the views of heaven which Christianity has given us. We should look upon the future world as the shadow of death; a land of gloom and spectres; a place beneath the ground - dark, chilly, repulsive; and we shall cease to wonder at the expressions of even so good a man at the prospect of death. When we look at him, we should remember with thankfulness the different views which we have of the future world, and the source to which we owe them. To us, if we are pious in any measure as Job was, death is the avenue, not to a world of gloom, but to a world of light and glory. It opens into heaven. There is no gloom, no darkness, no sorrow. There all are happy; and there all that is mysterious in this life is made plain - all that is sad is succeeded by eternal joy. These views we owe to that gospel which has brought life and immortality to light; and when we think of death and the future world, when from the midst of woes and sorrows we are compelled to look out on eternity, let us rejoice that we are not constrained to look forward with the sad forebodings of the Sage of Uz, but that we may think of the grave cheered by the strong consolations of Christian hope of the glorious resurrection.

When our rest together is in the dust - The rest of me and my hopes. My hopes and myself will expire together.

Poole: Job 17:16 - -- They either, 1. They that would see my hope, they must go into the grave to behold it. Or rather, 2. My hopes; of which he spoke in the singular nu...

They either,

1. They that would see my hope, they must go into the grave to behold it. Or rather,

2. My hopes; of which he spoke in the singular number, Job 17:15 , which he here changeth into the plural, as is very usual in these poetical books.

To the bars of the pit i.e. into the closest and innermost parts of the pit: my hopes are dying, and will be buried in my grave.

When our rest together is in the dust: so the sense is, when those spectators, together with myself, shall be in our graves. Heb. seeing that (as this Hebrew particle im oft signifies; or, certainly , as it is used Num 17:13 Job 6:13 , and elsewhere) our rest shall be together in the dust , i.e. I and my hopes shall be buried together.

Haydock: Job 17:16 - -- Deepest pit. Literally hell. (Challoner) --- Hebrew, "We shall go down to the bars of the pit, when we shall rest together in the dust." My hop...

Deepest pit. Literally hell. (Challoner) ---

Hebrew, "We shall go down to the bars of the pit, when we shall rest together in the dust." My hope may be frustrated by death; (Haydock) or you, my friends, must also go to the house of eternity. (Calmet)

Gill: Job 17:16 - -- They shall go down to the bars of the pit,.... He himself, and his friends, and the hopes they would have him entertain; these should all go down toge...

They shall go down to the bars of the pit,.... He himself, and his friends, and the hopes they would have him entertain; these should all go down together to the grave, and there lie barred and locked up; these hopes, so as never to rise anymore, and the bodies of himself, and his friends, till loosed by him who has the keys of hell and death: or "the bars shall go down to the grave"; the members of his body, as Jarchi, which are the bars of it, as some in Bar Tzemach; the strength and support of it, as particularly the bones, these shall go down to the grave, and there turn to rottenness and dust; and therefore, as if he should say, as he elsewhere does, "what is my strength, that I should hope?" Job 6:11;

when our rest together is in the dust; which is man's original, and to which he returns, and in which the dead lie and sleep until the resurrection; and where they are at rest from all adversity and affliction of body, mind, and estate; from all the troubles and vexations occasioned by wicked men, and from all disputes, wranglings, contentions, and animosities among friends, which would be the case of Job, and his friends, when their heads were laid in the dust, and which he supposed would quickly be; and therefore it was in vain for them to feed him with hopes of outward happiness, and for him to entertain them; it best came them both to think of death and the grave as near at hand, where their controversies would be buried, and they would be good friends, and lie quietly together, and take their rest until they should awake and rise to everlasting life.

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Commentary -- Verse Notes / Footnotes

NET Notes: Job 17:16 The translation follows the LXX and the Syriac versions with the change of vocalization in the MT. The MT has the noun “rest,” yielding, &...

Geneva Bible: Job 17:16 ( p ) They shall go down to the bars of the pit, when [our] rest together [is] in the dust. ( p ) All worldly hope and prosperity fail which you say,...

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Commentary -- Verse Range Notes

TSK Synopsis: Job 17:1-16 - --1 Job appeals from men to God.6 The unmerciful dealing of men with the afflicted may astonish, but not discourage the righteous.11 His hope is not in ...

MHCC: Job 17:10-16 - --Job's friends had pretended to comfort him with the hope of his return to a prosperous estate; he here shows that those do not go wisely about the wor...

Matthew Henry: Job 17:10-16 - -- Job's friends had pretended to comfort him with the hopes of his return to a prosperous estate again; now he here shows, I. That it was their folly ...

Keil-Delitzsch: Job 17:13-16 - -- 13 If I hope, it is for Sheôl as my house, In darkness I make my bed. 14 I cry to corruption: Thou art my father! - To the worm: Thou art my mo...

Constable: Job 15:1--21:34 - --C. The Second Cycle of Speeches between Job and His Three Friends chs. 15-21 In the second cycle of spee...

Constable: Job 16:1--17:16 - --2. Job's second reply to Eliphaz chs. 16-17 This response reflects Job's increasing disinterest ...

Constable: Job 17:6-16 - --Job's despair in the face of death 17:6-16 Job proceeded to accuse God by making him a b...

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Introduction / Outline

JFB: Job (Book Introduction) JOB A REAL PERSON.--It has been supposed by some that the book of Job is an allegory, not a real narrative, on account of the artificial character of ...

JFB: Job (Outline) THE HOLINESS OF JOB, HIS WEALTH, &c. (Job 1:1-5) SATAN, APPEARING BEFORE GOD, FALSELY ACCUSES JOB. (Job 1:6-12) SATAN FURTHER TEMPTS JOB. (Job 2:1-8)...

TSK: Job (Book Introduction) A large aquatic animal, perhaps the extinct dinosaur, plesiosaurus, the exact meaning is unknown. Some think this to be a crocodile but from the desc...

TSK: Job 17 (Chapter Introduction) Overview Job 17:1, Job appeals from men to God; Job 17:6, The unmerciful dealing of men with the afflicted may astonish, but not discourage the ri...

Poole: Job 17 (Chapter Introduction) CHAPTER 17 His miserable life; false friends; their punishment, Job 17:1-5 . His contempt, and sorrow, Job 17:6,7 . The righteous should be establi...

MHCC: Job (Book Introduction) This book is so called from Job, whose prosperity, afflictions, and restoration, are here recorded. He lived soon after Abraham, or perhaps before tha...

MHCC: Job 17 (Chapter Introduction) (Job 17:1-9) Job appeals from man to God. (Job 17:10-16) His hope is not in life, but in death.

Matthew Henry: Job (Book Introduction) An Exposition, with Practical Observations, of The Book of Job This book of Job stands by itself, is not connected with any other, and is therefore to...

Matthew Henry: Job 17 (Chapter Introduction) In this chapter, I. Job reflects upon the harsh censures which his friends had passed upon him, and looking upon himself as a dying man (Job 17:1)...

Constable: Job (Book Introduction) Introduction Title This book, like many others in the Old Testament, got its name from...

Constable: Job (Outline) Outline I. Prologue chs. 1-2 A. Job's character 1:1-5 B. Job's calamitie...

Constable: Job Job Bibliography Andersen, Francis I. Job. Tyndale Old Testament Commentaries series. Leicester, Eng. and Downe...

Haydock: Job (Book Introduction) THE BOOK OF JOB. INTRODUCTION. This Book takes its name from the holy man, of whom it treats; who, according to the more probable opinion, was ...

Gill: Job (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO JOB This book, in the Hebrew copies, generally goes by this name, from Job, who is however the subject, if not the writer of it. In...

Gill: Job 17 (Chapter Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO JOB 17 In this chapter Job not only enlarges upon the reason given in the preceding chapter, why he was desirous of an advocate wit...

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