
Text -- Job 34:36 (NET)




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Throughly and exactly, 'till the cause be brought to an issue.

Wesley: Job 34:36 - -- On their behalf; he hath put arguments into their mouths against God and his providence.
On their behalf; he hath put arguments into their mouths against God and his providence.
JFB: Job 34:36 - -- Margin, not so well, "My father," Elihu addressing God. This title does not elsewhere occur in Job.
Margin, not so well, "My father," Elihu addressing God. This title does not elsewhere occur in Job.
Clarke -> Job 34:36
Clarke: Job 34:36 - -- My desire is that Job may be tried unto the end - אבי יבחן איוב abi yibbachen Aiyob , "My father, let Job be tried."So the Vulgate, Pat...
My desire is that Job may be tried unto the end -
TSK -> Job 34:36
TSK: Job 34:36 - -- My desire is that Job may be tried : or, My father, let Job be tried, Job 23:16; Psa 17:3, Psa 26:2; Jam 5:11
his answers : Job 34:8, Job 34:9, Job 12...

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Barnes -> Job 34:36
Barnes: Job 34:36 - -- My desire is - Margin, "or, "my father, let Job be tried.""This variation between the text and the margin, arises from the different interpreta...
My desire is - Margin, "or, "my father, let Job be tried.""This variation between the text and the margin, arises from the different interpretations affixed to the Hebrew word
(1) Such a mode of appeal to God occurs nowhere else in the book, and it is little in the spirit of the poem. No particular reason can be assigned why that solemn appeal should be made here, rather than in many other places.
(2) The name "Father,"though often given to God in the Scriptures, is not elsewhere given to him in this book.
The probability is, therefore, that the word is from
May be tried - That his views may be fully canvassed and examined. He had expressed sentiments which Elihu thought should not be allowed to pass without the most careful examination into their truth and bearing. "Unto the end."In the most full and free manner; that the matter should be pursued as far as possible, so that it might be wholly understood. Literally, it means "forever"-
Because of his answers for wicked men - Because of the views which he has expressed, which seem to favor the wicked. Elihu refers to the opinions advanced by Job that God did not punish people in this life, or did not deal with them according to their characters, which "he"interpreted as giving countenance to wickedness, or as affirming the God was not the enemy of impiety. The Vulgate renders this, "My Father, let Job be tried to the end; do not cease from the man of iniquity;"but the true meaning doubtless is, that Job had uttered sentiments which Elihu understood to favor the wicked, and he was desirous that every trial should be applied to him which would tend to correct his erroneous views.
Poole -> Job 34:36
Poole: Job 34:36 - -- Either,
1. That he may be further tried by God, or exercised with afflictions, till he be thoroughly convinced or humbled. But it seems harsh that ...
Either,
1. That he may be further tried by God, or exercised with afflictions, till he be thoroughly convinced or humbled. But it seems harsh that he should pray for the continuance or increase of Job’ s afflictions. Or rather,
2. That his words and cause which I am now debating may be examined and sifted, that you that are here present, or any other wise men, may consider and judge thereof, as he desired above, Job 34:2,10,34 .
Unto the end i.e. thoroughly and exactly, till the cause be brought to an issue. Or, unto victory , i.e. till judgment be brought forth unto victory.
Because of his answers or, concerning his answers , or replies , or discourses ; for answering is oft used in Scripture, both in the Old and New Testament, for speaking . So he limits and changeth the state of the controversy: I do not meddle with Job’ s former life, nor charge him with hypocrisy, as his three friends have done; but I justly reprove him for his hard speeches against God, whereby he hath reproached his justice and goodness.
For wicked men i.e. on their behalf, or for their use. He hath put arguments into their mouths against God and his providence. Or, with or among wicked men ; as if he were one of them; or such answers as they use to make, which therefore are very unbecoming such a man as Job is, or pretends to be.
Haydock -> Job 34:36
Haydock: Job 34:36 - -- Father. From God all the rights of a father spring, Ephesians iii. 15. (Calmet) ---
Septuagint, "No indeed: but learn Job, answer not like fools."...
Father. From God all the rights of a father spring, Ephesians iii. 15. (Calmet) ---
Septuagint, "No indeed: but learn Job, answer not like fools." Protestants, "my desire is, (marginal note, my father) that Job may be tried unto the end, because of his answers for the wicked." (Haydock) ---
He has imitated their wicked discourses; let his chastisement deter others. (Calmet) ---
The sequel seems to intimate, that Eliphaz is here styled Father. (Menochius)
Gill -> Job 34:36
Gill: Job 34:36 - -- My desire is that Job may be tried unto the end,.... This is my opinion, or what "I bring in" o adduce, and lay before you, men of understanding and ...
My desire is that Job may be tried unto the end,.... This is my opinion, or what "I bring in" o adduce, and lay before you, men of understanding and wisdom, and leave it with you to consider of. Some render it, "O my Father, let Job be tried", &c. as if it was an apostrophe to God, and a request to him; so Mr. Broughton, who adds,
"which art in heaven,''
and the same is added by some Jewish interpreters p, as there are others q of them which go this way, and also several Christian commentators r; and of late s it has been urged, from this and other passages, that Elihu was Christ, who here addresses God as his father: but this is his New Testament title; and though God is the father of all men by creation, and of saints by adoption, yet this relation and title are not so frequently claimed under the former dispensation, or however not so early as the times of Job, but are more peculiar to the Gospel dispensation, under which saints receive "not the spirit of bondage again to fear, but the Spirit of adoption, whereby they cry, Abba, Father", Rom 8:15; wherefore admitting this version, rather some grave venerable person, as Eliphaz t, senior to Elihu, who was a young man, is addressed under this title; or the whole circle of Job's friends now about him, all elder than Elihu, may be intended; "father" for "fathers", the singular for the plural, see Act 7:2; and what he proposes is, that they should make it their joint request at the throne of grace, that Job's afflictions be still continued; that he might be thoroughly tried by them, and be purged from all his dross, he not appearing yet to be thoroughly sensible of his sinful speeches, and humbled for them; and therefore it was proper he should be still corrected and chastened to the end, or unto victory, as Mr. Broughton, or until victory was obtained, and he was obliged to yield, and cry "peccavi": but since afflictions are things not joyous but grievous, and it does not seem so agreeable to a good man, kind and humane, to desire the continuance of the afflictions of another, though palliated with a plausible for his good; it seems better to understand this as a motion made to the understanding part of the company by Elihu, that the words of Job, which he had spoken without knowledge and wisdom, might be taken under strict examination by them, and thoroughly scanned, that it might be better known what was proper to be said more to him for his conviction;
because of his answers for wicked men; or concerning or relative to such answers which he had made, which were like to those which wicked men make; who charge the ways of God with inequality and want of equity, ask where is the God of judgment? or which serve the cause of the wicked, and which furnish them with arguments, prepare them for them, and put them into their mouths, to argue against God and his providential dealings with men, and against all religion. See Job 34:8.

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NET Notes -> Job 34:36
NET Notes: Job 34:36 The MT reads אָבִי (’avi, “my father”), which makes no sense. Some follow the KJV and emend the word t...
Geneva Bible -> Job 34:36
Geneva Bible: Job 34:36 My desire [is that] Job may be ( d ) tried unto the end because of [his] answers for wicked men.
( d ) That he may speak as much as he can, that we m...

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TSK Synopsis -> Job 34:1-37
TSK Synopsis: Job 34:1-37 - --1 Elihu accuses Job for charging God with injustice.10 God omnipotent cannot be unjust.31 Man must humble himself unto God.34 Elihu reproves Job.
MHCC -> Job 34:31-37
MHCC: Job 34:31-37 - --When we reprove for what is amiss, we must direct to what is good. Job's friends would have had him own himself a wicked man. Let will only oblige him...
Matthew Henry -> Job 34:31-37
Matthew Henry: Job 34:31-37 - -- In these verses, I. Elihu instructs Job what he should say under his affliction, Job 34:31, Job 34:32. Having reproved him for his peevish passionat...
Keil-Delitzsch -> Job 34:33-37
Keil-Delitzsch: Job 34:33-37 - --
33 Shall He recompense it as thou wilt? For thou hast found fault,
So that thou hast to determine, not I,
And what thou knowest speak out!
34 Men...
Constable: Job 32:1--37:24 - --F. Elihu's Speeches chs. 32-37
Many critical scholars believe that a later editor inserted chapters 32-3...

Constable: Job 34:1-37 - --3. Elihu's second speech ch. 34
Elihu sought to refute Job's charge that God was unjust in this ...
