
Text -- Job 38:2 (NET)




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Wesley -> Job 38:2
Wesley: Job 38:2 - -- God's counsel. For the great matter of the dispute between Job and his friends, was concerning God's counsel and providence in afflicting Job; which J...
God's counsel. For the great matter of the dispute between Job and his friends, was concerning God's counsel and providence in afflicting Job; which Job had endeavoured to obscure and misrepresent. This first word which God spoke, struck Job to the heart. This he repeats and echoes to, Job 42:3, as the arrow that stuck fast in him.
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JFB: Job 38:2 - -- Impugning My divine wisdom in the providential arrangements of the universe. Such "words" (including those of the friends) rather obscure, than throw ...
Impugning My divine wisdom in the providential arrangements of the universe. Such "words" (including those of the friends) rather obscure, than throw light on My ways. God is about to be Job's Vindicator, but must first bring him to a right state of mind for receiving relief.
Clarke -> Job 38:2
Clarke: Job 38:2 - -- Who is this that darkeneth counsel - As if he had said, Who art thou who pretendest to speak on the deep things of God, and the administration of hi...
Who is this that darkeneth counsel - As if he had said, Who art thou who pretendest to speak on the deep things of God, and the administration of his justice and providence, which thou canst not comprehend; and leavest my counsels and designs the darker for thy explanation?
Defender -> Job 38:2
Defender: Job 38:2 - -- God is rebuking Elihu here, not Job. The latter has not been speaking, but Elihu has been mouthing "words without knowledge" for the equivalent of 6 c...
God is rebuking Elihu here, not Job. The latter has not been speaking, but Elihu has been mouthing "words without knowledge" for the equivalent of 6 chapters and 165 verses."
TSK -> Job 38:2

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Barnes -> Job 38:2
Barnes: Job 38:2 - -- Who is this - Referring doubtless to Job, for he is specified in the previous verse. Some have understood it of Elihu (see Schultens), but the ...
Who is this - Referring doubtless to Job, for he is specified in the previous verse. Some have understood it of Elihu (see Schultens), but the connection evidently demands that it should be understood as referring to Job. The object was, to reprove him for the presumptuous manner in which he had spoken of God and of his government. It was important before God manifested his approval of Job, that he should declare his sense of what he had said, and show him how improper it was to indulge in language such as he had used.
That darkeneth counsel - That makes the subject darker. Instead of explaining the reason of the divine dealings, and vindicating God from the objections alleged against him and his government, the only tendency of what he had said had been to make his government appear dark, and severe, and unjust in the view of his friends. It might have been expected of Job, being a friend of God, that all that he said would have tended to inspire confidence in him, and to explain and vindicate the divine dealings; but, God had seen much that was the very reverse. Even the true friends of God, in the dark times of trial, may say much that will tend to make people doubt the wisdom and goodness of his government, and to prejudice the minds of the wicked against him.
By words without knowledge - Words that did not contain a true explanation of the difficulty. They conveyed no light about his dealings; they did not tend to satisfy the mind, or to make the subject more clear than it was before. There is much of this kind of speaking in the world; much that is written, and much that fails from the lips in debate, in preaching, and in conversation, that explains nothing, and that even leaves the subject more perplexed than it was before. We see from this verse that God does not and cannot approve of such "words."If his friends speak, they should vindicate his government; they should at least express their conviction that he is right; they should aim to explain his doings, and to show to the world that they are reasonable. If they cannot do this, they should adore in silence. The Savior never spoke of God in such a way as to leave any doubt that his ways could be vindicated, never so as to leave the impression that he was harsh or severe in his administration, or so as to lend the least countenance to a spirit of murmuring and complaining.
Poole -> Job 38:2
Poole: Job 38:2 - -- Who is this? it is a question of admiration and reprehension, What and where is he that presumeth to talk at this rate? this language becomes not a c...
Who is this? it is a question of admiration and reprehension, What and where is he that presumeth to talk at this rate? this language becomes not a creature, much less a professor of religion. The person here designed is not Elihu, who spoke last; but Job, who had spoken most, as is apparent from Job 38:1 , and from Job 42:3 , where Job takes the following reproof to himself, and from the following discourse, wherein God convinceth Job by divers of the same kind of arguments which Elihu had used against him.
That darkeneth counsel either,
1. His own counsel, i.e. that expresseth his own mind darkly and doubtfully. But that was not Job’ s fault. He spake his mind too plainly and freely. Or rather,
2. God’ s counsel, which is called simply counsel by way of eminency, as the word and the commandment are oft put for the word and command of God . For the great matter of the dispute between Job and his friends was concerning God’ s counsel, and purpose, and providence in afflicting Job; which being a wise, and just, and glorious action of God, Job had endeavoured to obscure, and misrepresent, and censure. And God’ s decrees and judgments are frequently called his counsels , as Psa 32:11 Pro 19:21 Isa 28:29 Act 2:23 .
By words God doth not charge Job, as his three friends had done, with hypocrisy and wickedness in the course of life, nor with atheistical opinions of God or his providence, as some of the Hebrew writers do, but confines his reproof to his hard speeches.
Without knowledge proceeding from ignorance, and mistake, and inconsiderateness; not from malice or rage against God, as his friends accused him.
Haydock -> Job 38:2
Haydock: Job 38:2 - -- Words. Many explain this as a condemnation (Calmet) of the last speaker, (Du Hamel) who would otherwise pass without any reproach, (Haydock) though ...
Words. Many explain this as a condemnation (Calmet) of the last speaker, (Du Hamel) who would otherwise pass without any reproach, (Haydock) though he had spoken with less reserve than the rest. (Calmet) ---
Pineda allows that this opinion is very plausible; but he thinks that Job himself is reprehended, not for any grievous offence, but for indiscreet expressions, chap. xli. The context also seem to require this, as Job take it to himself, chap. xxxix. 33. (Calmet) ---
The change of persons might rather imply the contrary: Who is this? Eliu. 3. Gird up thy loins. Job. (Haydock) ---
Can we admit that the devil got the victory; or, that God falsely declared that Job had spoken right? chap. xlii. (Houbigant) ---
Did not the latter maintain the truth with greatest zeal, while his friends certainly mixed unskilful words or inferences with sentences of the greatest consequence? His face I will accept, that your folly be not imputed to you; for you have not spoken right things before me, as my servant Job hath, chap. xlii. 8. Hebrew, "Who is this that darkeneth counsel, by words without knowledge?" (Protestants) "Who is the who concealeth counsel from me, keeping words in his heart, and thinketh to hide from me?" (Septuagint) Eliu pretended to explain the counsels of God, and perhaps did not utter all that he had in his mind; but God condemns the very harbouring of thoughts, which are contrary to truth and justice. (Haydock) ---
Job's friends laboured under great prejudices, and condemned him without cause, (Calmet) thinking that they were doing a service to God, like those who put the apostles to death, and persecuted Catholics on account of their religion. But this plea will not excuse them. Here one line suffices to refute the long harangue (Haydock) of Eliu; (St. Gregory; Ven. Bede; Tirinus, &c.) though we have observed, (Haydock) some understand the words to be addressed to Job, as a rebuke for his too warm expressions. (St. Chrysostom; St. Augustine, &c.) (Calmet) ---
The remainder of the discourse is designed for Job's instruction. (Haydock) ---
Hoc (Eliu) despecto ad erudiendum Job verba vertuntur. (St. Gregory)
Gill -> Job 38:2
Gill: Job 38:2 - -- Who is this,.... Meaning not Elihu the last speaker, as some think; and there are some who suppose not only that these words are directed to him, but...
Who is this,.... Meaning not Elihu the last speaker, as some think; and there are some who suppose not only that these words are directed to him, but all that is said in this and the following chapter: but it was Job the Lord spoke to and answered, as expressed in Job 38:1; and these words are taken by Job to himself, Job 42:3. Concerning whom the Lord inquires, not as ignorant of him, who he was; but wondering that such a man as he should talk as he did; and as angry with him, and rebuking him for it;
that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge? either his own counsel, his sense and sentiments of things, which were delivered in such an obscure manner as not to be intelligible by those that heard them; whereby they were led, as Job's friends were, into some mistaken notions of him: or rather the counsel of God, his works of providence, which are done according to the counsel of his will, and were misrepresented by Job, as not being wise and good, just and equitable; see Job 34:3.

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NET Notes: Job 38:2 The referent of “counsel” here is not the debate between Job and the friends, but the purposes of God (see Ps 33:10; Prov 19:21; Isa 19:17...
Geneva Bible -> Job 38:2
Geneva Bible: Job 38:2 Who [is] this that ( b ) darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?
( b ) Which by seeking out the secret counsel of God by man's reason, makes it...

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TSK Synopsis -> Job 38:1-41
TSK Synopsis: Job 38:1-41 - --1 God challenges Job to answer.4 God, by his mighty works, convinces Job of ignorance,31 and of imbecility.
MHCC -> Job 38:1-3
MHCC: Job 38:1-3 - --Job had silenced, but had not convinced his friends. Elihu had silenced Job, but had not brought him to admit his guilt before God. It pleased the Lor...
Matthew Henry -> Job 38:1-3
Matthew Henry: Job 38:1-3 - -- Let us observe here, 1. Who speaks - The Lord, Jehovah, not a created angel, but the eternal Word himself, the second person in the blessed Trinit...
Keil-Delitzsch -> Job 38:1-3
Keil-Delitzsch: Job 38:1-3 - --
1 Then Jehovah answered Job out of the storm, and said:
2 Who then darkeneth counsel
With words without knowledge?
3 Gird up now thy loins as a m...
Constable: Job 38:1--42:7 - --G. The Cycle of Speeches between Job and God chs. 38:1-42:6
Finally God spoke to Job and gave revelation...

Constable: Job 38:1--40:3 - --1. God's first speech 38:1-40:2
God's first speech "transcends all other descriptions of the won...
