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Text -- Job 8:17 (NET)

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8:17 It wraps its roots around a heap of stones and it looks for a place among stones.
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Wesley: Job 8:17 - -- Of stones. This circumstance is added, to signify its firmness and strength, that it was not in loose and sandy ground, which a violent wind might ove...

Of stones. This circumstance is added, to signify its firmness and strength, that it was not in loose and sandy ground, which a violent wind might overthrow, but in solid ground, within which were many stones, which its numerous and spreading roots embrace, folding and interweaving themselves about them.

Wesley: Job 8:17 - -- The tree reacheth thither, takes the advantage of that place for the strengthening of itself.

The tree reacheth thither, takes the advantage of that place for the strengthening of itself.

JFB: Job 8:17 - -- Hebrew, "the house of stones"; that is, the wall surrounding the garden. The parasite plant, in creeping towards and over the wall--the utmost bound o...

Hebrew, "the house of stones"; that is, the wall surrounding the garden. The parasite plant, in creeping towards and over the wall--the utmost bound of the garden--is said figuratively to "see" or regard it.

TSK: Job 8:17 - -- roots : Job 18:16, Job 29:19; Isa 5:24, Isa 40:24; Jer 12:1, Jer 12:2; Mar 11:20; Jud 1:12

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Barnes: Job 8:17 - -- His roots are wrapped about the heap - There has been great diversity of opinion in the interpretation of this passage. Jerome renders it, "ove...

His roots are wrapped about the heap - There has been great diversity of opinion in the interpretation of this passage. Jerome renders it, "over the heap of stones his roots are condensed."Walton, " super fontem - over a fountain."The Septuagint, "he lies down (or sleeps, κοιμᾶται koimatai ) on a heap of stones; and he lives in the midst of flint-stones."According to some, the word rendered heap גל gal means a fountain; according to others, it means a heap or pile of stones; according to Dr. Good, it means a rock. According to the view of the former, it refers to the flourishing condition of a hypocrite or sinner, and means that he is like a tree that sends its roots by a fountain, and is nourished by it. According to others, the reference is to the fact that the hypocrite is like a plant that has no depth of earth for its roots, that wraps its rooks around anything, even a heap of stones, to support itself; and that consequently will soon wither under the intense heat of the sun. The word גל gal , rendered "heap,"means either

(1.) A heap, as a heap of stones, from גלל gâlal - to roll, as e. g. stones. It may denote a heap of stones, Jos 7:26, but it commonly refers to the ruins of walls and cities, Jer 9:11; Jer 51:37; Isa 25:2. It means

(2.) A fountain or spring, so called from the rolling or welling up of the waters, Son 4:12, and hence, rolling waves or billows, Psa 42:7; Psa 89:9; Psa 107:25, Psa 107:29. The parallelism, if nothing else, demands that the usual signification should be given to it here; and the true sense is, that the prosperous wicked man or the hypocrite is like a plant which stands in the midst of rocks, rubbish, or old ruins, and not like one that stands in a fertile soil where it may strike its roots deep. The reference is to the fact that a tree or plant which springs up on a rock, or in the midst of rocks, will send its roots afar for nutriment, or will wrap them around the projecting points of rocks in order to obtain support. All have observed this in trees standing on rocks; but the following extract from Sillinian’ s Journal for January, 1840, wil illustrate the fact referred to here more fully.

"About fifteen years ago, upon the top of an immense boulder of limestone, some ten or twelve feet in diameter, a sapling was found growing. The stone was but slightly imbedded in the earth; several of its sides were raised from four to six feet above its surface; but the top of the rock was rough with crevices, and its surface, which was sloping off, on one side, to the earth, was covered with a thin mould. From this mould the tree had sprung up, and having thrust its roots into the crevices of the rock, it had succeeded in reaching the height of some twelve or fifteen feet. But about this period the roots on one side became loosened from their attachment, and the tree gradually declined to the opposite side, until its body was in a parallel line with the earth. The roots on the opposite side, having obtained a firmer hold, afforded sufficient nourishment to sustain the plant; although they could not, alone, retain it in its vertical position. In this condition of things, the tree as if ‘ conscious of its needs, ‘ adopted (if the term may be used) an ingenious process, in order to regain its former upright position. One of the most vigorous of the detached roots sent out a branch from its side, which, passing round a projection of the rock, again united with the parent stalk, and thus formed a perfect loop around this projection, which gave to the root an immovable attachment.

"The tree now began to recover from its bent position. Obeying the natural tendency of all plants to grow erect, and sustained by this root, which increased with unwonted vigor, in a few years it had entirely regained its vertical position, elevated, as no one could doubt who saw it, by the aid of the root which had formed this singular attachment. But this was not the only power exhibited by this remarkable tree.

"After its elevation it flourished vigorously for several years. Some of its roots had traced the sloping side of the rock to the earth, and were buried in the soil below. Others, having embedded themselves in its furrows, had completely filled these crevices with vegetable matter. The tree still continuing to grow, concentric layers of vegetable matter were annually deposited between the alburnum and liber, until by the force of vegetable growth alone, the rock was split from the top to the bottom, into three nearly equal divisions, and branches of the roots were soon found, extending down, through the divisions into the earth below. On visiting the tree a few months since, to take a drawing of it, we found that it had attained an altitude of fifty feet, and was four and a half feet in circumference at its base."

The image here shows that the author of this beautiful fragment was a careful observer of nature, and the comparison is exceedingly pertinent and striking. What more beautiful illustration of a hypocrite can there be? His roots do not strike into the earth. His piety is not planted in a rich soil. It is on the hard rock of the unconverted human heart. Yet it sends out its roots afar; seems to flourish for a time; draws nutriment from remote objects; clings to a crag or a projecting rock, or to anything for support - until a tempest sweeps it down to rise no more! No doubt the idea of Bildad was, that Job was just such a man.

Seeth the place of stones - Septuagint, "and lives in the midst of flints,"not an unapt rendering - and a very striking description of a hypocrite. So Castellio, "existit inter lapides."Its only nutriment is derived from the scanty earth in the stony soil on which it stands, or in the crevices of the rocks.

Poole: Job 8:17 - -- About the heap to wit, of stones, which word may be here understood out of the latter branch of the verse, as is very usual in Scripture use. This ci...

About the heap to wit, of stones, which word may be here understood out of the latter branch of the verse, as is very usual in Scripture use. This circumstance of the tree is added to signify, either,

1. Its firmness and strength, that it was not in loose and sandy ground, which a violent wind might overthrow, but in solid and hard ground, within which were many stones, which its numerous and spreading roots embrace, folding and interweaving themselves severally about several stones. Or,

2. Its singular and extraordinary growth, in spite of all disadvantages and oppositions; that even stony ground, which is very prejudicial to trees, Mat 13:5 , doth not hinder its growth, but only add to its strength. So God and man seem to conspire, and all things concur, to secure and perpetuate this man’ s happiness. Some render the words, His roots are wrapped , or folded , or spread about , or beside, a spring , as the Hebrew gal sometimes signifies, as Jos 15:19 Son 4:12 , i.e. a moist ground, which is much to its advantage: see Psa 1:3 Jer 17:8 . Seeth he , i.e. the tree whose roots he last mentioneth, reacheth thither, spreadeth himself so far, takes the advantage of that place for the strengthening of itself. Seeing is oft put for enjoying, and is frequently attributed to lifeless things, by a known figure, called prosopopeia . The place , Heb. the house , which is oft used for a place; as 2Sa 6:17 1Ki 8:6 . Others render the words thus, he looketh upon the house of stones , i.e. made of stones for greater beauty and strength. He standeth proudly, and looketh boldly upon its owner’ s house, nigh unto which it is placed, even in his garden, as was said before.

Gill: Job 8:17 - -- His roots are wrapped about the heap,.... The heap of stones where the tree stands; it strikes its roots among them, and implicates and twists them ab...

His roots are wrapped about the heap,.... The heap of stones where the tree stands; it strikes its roots among them, and implicates and twists them about them, and secures itself and grows up notwithstanding them: and this expresses the seeming stable state and condition of hypocrites for a season, who not only flourish, but seem to take root; and who maintain their ground amidst some difficulties; this fitly agrees with and describes such hearers of the word, and professors of religion, comparable to the seed sown on stony ground, Mat 13:5,

and seeth the place of stones; or, "the house of stones" n; a house built of stones, high and stately; yet this tree rises higher than that, overtops and overlooks it; and is represented as viewing it thoroughly, or looking down upon it, and all around it, being so high and so spreading; the Targum renders it, implicateth the house of stones; "platteth", as Mr. Broughton, or twists about them, and so many of the Jewish writers; but this seems to be designed in the former clause: all this suits very well with good men, whose "roots are wrapped about the fountain" o; as the words may be rendered; about the love of God, in which they are rooted and grounded, and are like trees planted by rivers of water, the river of divine love, which refreshes, revives, and makes them fruitful; and about Christ, the fountain of gardens and well of living waters; in whom they are rooted and built up, increase, flourish, and are established; and though they are among stones, and attended with many difficulties, yet they abide and surmount all; believe in hope against hope, and see and enjoy, yea, even dwell in the house of stones, the church of God, built on a rock, against which the gates of hell cannot prevail.

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Commentary -- Verse Notes / Footnotes

NET Notes: Job 8:17 The idea seems to be that the stones around which the roots of the tree wrap themselves suggest strength and security for the tree, but uprooting come...

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Commentary -- Verse Range Notes

TSK Synopsis: Job 8:1-22 - --1 Bildad shews God's justice in dealing with men according to their works.8 He alleges antiquity to prove the certain destruction of the hypocrite.20 ...

MHCC: Job 8:8-19 - --Bildad discourses well of hypocrites and evil-doers, and the fatal end of all their hopes and joys. He proves this truth of the destruction of the hop...

Matthew Henry: Job 8:8-19 - -- Bildad here discourses very well on the sad catastrophe of hypocrites and evil-doers and the fatal period of all their hopes and joys. He will not b...

Keil-Delitzsch: Job 8:16-19 - -- 16 He dwells with sap in the sunshine, And his branch spreads itself over his garden. 17 His roots intertwine over heaps of stone, He looks upon ...

Constable: Job 4:1--14:22 - --B. The First Cycle of Speeches between Job and His Three Friends chs. 4-14 The two soliloquies of Job (c...

Constable: Job 8:1-22 - --3. Bildad's first speech ch. 8 Bildad agreed with Eliphaz that God was paying Job back for some ...

Constable: Job 8:11-19 - --Illustrations of Job's godlessness 8:11-19 The illustration of the water plant (vv. 11-1...

Guzik: Job 8:1-22 - --Job 8 - The First Speech of Bildad A. Bildad rebukes Job. 1. (1-7) If Job was righteous, God would bless and defend him. Then Bildad the Shuhite a...

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Introduction / Outline

JFB: Job (Book Introduction) JOB A REAL PERSON.--It has been supposed by some that the book of Job is an allegory, not a real narrative, on account of the artificial character of ...

JFB: Job (Outline) THE HOLINESS OF JOB, HIS WEALTH, &c. (Job 1:1-5) SATAN, APPEARING BEFORE GOD, FALSELY ACCUSES JOB. (Job 1:6-12) SATAN FURTHER TEMPTS JOB. (Job 2:1-8)...

TSK: Job (Book Introduction) A large aquatic animal, perhaps the extinct dinosaur, plesiosaurus, the exact meaning is unknown. Some think this to be a crocodile but from the desc...

TSK: Job 8 (Chapter Introduction) Overview Job 8:1, Bildad shews God’s justice in dealing with men according to their works; Job 8:8, He alleges antiquity to prove the certain de...

Poole: Job 8 (Chapter Introduction) CHAPTER 8 Bildad’ s reproof: Job’ s words said to be as wind: God just in all his ways, and in his dealings towards Job’ s children:...

MHCC: Job (Book Introduction) This book is so called from Job, whose prosperity, afflictions, and restoration, are here recorded. He lived soon after Abraham, or perhaps before tha...

MHCC: Job 8 (Chapter Introduction) (Job 8:1-7) Bildad reproves Job. (Job 8:8-19) Hypocrites will be destroyed. (Job 8:20-22) Bildad applies God's just dealing to Job.

Matthew Henry: Job (Book Introduction) An Exposition, with Practical Observations, of The Book of Job This book of Job stands by itself, is not connected with any other, and is therefore to...

Matthew Henry: Job 8 (Chapter Introduction) Job's friends are like Job's messengers: the latter followed one another close with evil tidings, the former followed him with harsh censures: both...

Constable: Job (Book Introduction) Introduction Title This book, like many others in the Old Testament, got its name from...

Constable: Job (Outline) Outline I. Prologue chs. 1-2 A. Job's character 1:1-5 B. Job's calamitie...

Constable: Job Job Bibliography Andersen, Francis I. Job. Tyndale Old Testament Commentaries series. Leicester, Eng. and Downe...

Haydock: Job (Book Introduction) THE BOOK OF JOB. INTRODUCTION. This Book takes its name from the holy man, of whom it treats; who, according to the more probable opinion, was ...

Gill: Job (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO JOB This book, in the Hebrew copies, generally goes by this name, from Job, who is however the subject, if not the writer of it. In...

Gill: Job 8 (Chapter Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO JOB 8 In this chapter Bildad enters the discussion with Job; proceeding upon the same lines as Eliphaz, he reproves him for his lon...

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