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Text -- Isaiah 29:16 (NET)

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29:16 Your thinking is perverse! Should the potter be regarded as clay? Should the thing made say about its maker, “He didn’t make me”? Or should the pottery say about the potter, “He doesn’t understand”?
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Dictionary Themes and Topics: Worship | Wisdom | Sennacherib | Presumption | POTTER; POTTERY | Isaiah | Infidelity | ISAIAH, 1-7 | Hypocrisy | God | Formalism | FORM | ESTEEM | Clay | CHOOSE; CHOSEN | Blasphemy | more
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Commentary -- Word/Phrase Notes (per phrase)

Wesley: Isa 29:16 - -- All your subtle devices, by which you turn yourselves into all shapes.

All your subtle devices, by which you turn yourselves into all shapes.

Wesley: Isa 29:16 - -- It is no more to me, than the clay is to the potter, who can alter and dispose it as he sees fit.

It is no more to me, than the clay is to the potter, who can alter and dispose it as he sees fit.

JFB: Isa 29:16 - -- Rather, "Ah! your perverseness! just as if the potter should be esteemed as the clay!" [MAURER]. Or, "Ye invert (turn upside down) the order of things...

Rather, "Ah! your perverseness! just as if the potter should be esteemed as the clay!" [MAURER]. Or, "Ye invert (turn upside down) the order of things, putting yourselves instead of God," and vice versa, just as if the potter should be esteemed as the clay [HORSLEY], (Isa 45:9; Isa 64:8).

Calvin: Isa 29:16 - -- 16.Is your turning reckoned like potter’s clay! There are various ways of explaining this verse, and, indeed, there is some difficulty on account o...

16.Is your turning reckoned like potter’s clay! There are various ways of explaining this verse, and, indeed, there is some difficulty on account of the two particles, אם m) and כי (). אם m) is often used in putting a question, and sometimes in making an affirmation; and therefore some translate it truly. The word הפך ( hāphăch) is considered by some to mean “turning upside down,” 276 as if he had said, “Shall your turning upside down be reckoned like clay?” Others render it “turning,” that is, the purposes which are formed in the heart. But the most generally received rendering is, “turning upside down” or “destruction.” As if he had said, “I would care no more about destroying you, than the potter would care about turning the clay; for you are like clay, because I have created you with my hand.”

But as the Prophet appears to contrast those two particles אם m) and כי (), I am more inclined to a different opinion, though I do not object to the former exposition, which contains a doctrine in other respects useful. My view of it therefore is this, “Shall your turning, that is, the purposes which you ponder in your heart, be like potter’s clay? Is it not as if the vessel said to the potter, Thou hast not formed me? Your pride is astonishing; for you act as if you had created yourselves, and as if you had everything in your own power. I had a right to appoint whatever I thought fit. When you dare to assume such power and authority, you are too little acquainted with your condition, and you do not know that you are men.” 277

This diversity of expositions makes no difference as to the Prophet’s meaning, who had no other object in view than to confirm the doctrine taught in the preceding verse; for he still exclaims against proud men, who claim so much power to themselves that they cannot endure the authority of God, and entertain a false opinion about themselves, which leads them to despise all exhortations, as if they had been gods. Thus do they deny that God has created them; for whatever men claim for themselves, they take from God, and deprive him of the honour which is due to him.

Only in the first clause would the meaning at all differ; for those who interpret אם m) affirmatively, consider this verse to mean, “ Truly, I will destroy you as a potter would break the pot which he had made.” But as the Prophet had to do with proud men, who sought out lurking-places in order to deceive God, I rather view it as a question, “Are you so able workmen that the revolutions of your brain can make this or that, as a potter, by turning the wheel, frames vessels at his pleasure?” Let every person adopt his own opinion: I follow that which I consider to be probable.

TSK: Isa 29:16 - -- your turning : Isa 24:1; Act 17:6 as the potter’ s : Isa 45:9, Isa 45:10; Jer 18:1-10; Rom 9:19, Rom 9:21 or shall : Isa 45:11; Psa 94:8, Psa 94:...

your turning : Isa 24:1; Act 17:6

as the potter’ s : Isa 45:9, Isa 45:10; Jer 18:1-10; Rom 9:19, Rom 9:21

or shall : Isa 45:11; Psa 94:8, Psa 94:9

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Commentary -- Word/Phrase Notes (per Verse)

Barnes: Isa 29:16 - -- Surely your turning of things upside down - Your perversion of all things. They had no just views of truth. They deemed mere formality to be al...

Surely your turning of things upside down - Your perversion of all things. They had no just views of truth. They deemed mere formality to be all that was required. They attempted to conceal their plans even from Yahweh; and everything in the opinions and practice of the nation had become perverted and erroneous. There has been much diversity in rendering this phrase. Luther renders it, ‘ O how perverse ye are.’ Lowth renders it,

‘ Perverse as ye are! shall the potter be esteemed as the clay?’

Rosenmuller also accords with this interpretation, and renders it, ‘ O your perversity,’ etc. The sense of the passage seems to be this: ‘ Your "changing of things"is just as absurd as it would be for the thing formed to say to him that formed it, why hast thou made me thus? It is as absurd for you to find fault with the government of God as it would be for the clay to complain of want of skill in the potter. You complain of God’ s laws, and worship Him according to the commandments of people. You complain of his requirements, and offer to him the service of the mouth and the lip, and witchold the heart. You suppose that God does not see you, and do your deeds in darkness. All this supposes that God is destitute of wisdom, and cannot see what is done, and it is just as absurd as it would be in the clay to complain that the potter who fashions it has no understanding.’

Shall be esteemed ... - The "literal"translation of this passage would be, ‘ Your perverseness is as if the potter should be esteemed as the clay;’ that is, as if he was no more qualified to form anything than the clay itself.

For shall the work ... - This passage is quoted by the apostle Paul Rom 9:20-21 to show the right which God has to do with his creatures as shall seem good in his sight, and the impropriety of complaining of his distinguishing mercy in choosing to life those whom he pleases. The sense of the passage is, that it would be absurd for that which is made to complain of the maker as having no intelligence, and no right to make it as he does. It would be absurd in the piece of pottery to complain of the potter as if he had no skill; and it is equally absurd in a man to complain of God, or to regard him as destitute of wisdom.

Poole: Isa 29:16 - -- Your turning of things upside down all your subtle devices, by which you turn yourselves into all shapes; and turn your thoughts hither and thither, ...

Your turning of things upside down all your subtle devices, by which you turn yourselves into all shapes; and turn your thoughts hither and thither, and pervert the order which God hath appointed.

Shall be esteemed as the potter’ s clay it is no more to me than the clay is to the potter, who can not only discern it thoroughly, but alter and dispose it as he seeth fit.

Shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not & c.? and no less absurd and ridiculous is your conceit, that I, your Maker and supreme Governor, cannot discover and control all your artifices at my pleasure.

Haydock: Isa 29:16 - -- Not. So it is in vain to think that your hypocrisy or excuses will deceive God, chap. xxviii. 15. (Haydock)

Not. So it is in vain to think that your hypocrisy or excuses will deceive God, chap. xxviii. 15. (Haydock)

Gill: Isa 29:16 - -- Surely your turning of things upside down,.... Revolving things in their minds, throwing them into different shapes, forming various schemes, and inve...

Surely your turning of things upside down,.... Revolving things in their minds, throwing them into different shapes, forming various schemes, and inverting the order of things by their deep counsels, and seeking to hide things from the Lord: or, "O the perverseness of you" z; in imagining and saying that no eye saw, nor anyone knew, what they did, not the Lord himself. So the Vulgate Latin version, "this is your perverse thought"; namely, what is before related. The Targum is,

"do you seek to pervert your works?''

Our version joins it with what follows; though a stop should be made here, because of the accent:

shall be esteemed as the potter's clay: their perverse counsels and designs shall be made of no more account with God, and be as easily turned about and brought to nought, as the clay can be formed, and shaped, and marred by the potter, at his pleasure: "if" or "surely as the potter's clay shall it be esteemed", as the words may be rendered; or it may refer to their persons, as well as their counsels. So the Septuagint version, "shall ye not be reckoned as the potter's clay?" ye shall. To which agrees the Targum,

"behold, as the clay in the hand of the potter, so are ye accounted before me;''

who could do with them just as seemed good in his sight. De Dieu renders them, "shall the potter be reckoned as the clay?" Such was the stupidity and perverseness of the Jews, in endeavouring to hide their counsels from the Lord, and in fancying that he did not see and know them, that they thought God was like themselves; which is all one as if the potter was reckoned as the clay, for they were the clay, and God the potter. The Vulgate Latin version is, "as if the clay could think against the potter"; contrive schemes to counterwork him; which, to imagine, was not more stupid, than to think they could do anything against the Lord:

for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? to say that God does not know what is done by his creatures, is in effect to say that he did not make them; for he that made them must needs know their actions, and even the very thoughts of their hearts; as he that makes a watch knows all that is in it, and the motions of it:

or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding? or judgment, did not know how to make it as it should be. So the Septuagint version, "thou hast not made me wisely"; or he did not understand the work itself, the make and fashion of it. So the Targum,

"thou does not understand me.''

This might as well be said, as for a creature to pretend that God does not know what and where he is, or what he is doing.

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Commentary -- Verse Notes / Footnotes

NET Notes: Isa 29:16 Heb “that the thing made should say.”

Geneva Bible: Isa 29:16 Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed ( o ) as the potter's clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or...

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Commentary -- Verse Range Notes

TSK Synopsis: Isa 29:1-24 - --1 God's heavy judgment upon Jerusalem.7 The unsatiableness of her enemies.9 The senselessness,13 and deep hypocrisy of the Jews.17 A promise of sancti...

MHCC: Isa 29:9-16 - --The security of sinners in sinful ways, is cause for lamentation and wonder. The learned men, through prejudice, said that the Divine prophecies were ...

Matthew Henry: Isa 29:9-16 - -- Here, I. The prophet stands amazed at the stupidity of the greatest part of the Jewish nation. They had Levites, who taught the good knowledge of t...

Keil-Delitzsch: Isa 29:15-16 - -- Their hypocrisy, which was about to be so wonderfully punished according to the universal law (Psa 18:26-27), manifested itself in their self-willed...

Constable: Isa 7:1--39:8 - --III. Israel's crisis of faith chs. 7--39 This long section of the book deals with Israel's major decision in Isa...

Constable: Isa 13:1--35:10 - --B. God's sovereignty over the nations chs. 13-35 This major section of the book emphasizes the folly of ...

Constable: Isa 28:1--33:24 - --3. The folly of trusting the nations chs. 28-33 Chapters 28-35 are somewhat similar to chapters ...

Constable: Isa 29:1-24 - --Two woes against Jerusalem ch. 29 There are two more "woes" that deal with Jerusalem in this chapter (vv. 1-14, 15-24) in addition to the one in chapt...

Guzik: Isa 29:1-24 - --Isaiah 29 - The Cause and Cure of Spiritual Blindness A. The coming distress upon Jerusalem. 1. (1-4) The LORD humbles a proud Jerusalem. "Wo...

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Introduction / Outline

JFB: Isaiah (Book Introduction) ISAIAH, son of Amoz (not Amos); contemporary of Jonah, Amos, Hosea, in Israel, but younger than they; and of Micah, in Judah. His call to a higher deg...

JFB: Isaiah (Outline) PARABLE OF JEHOVAH'S VINEYARD. (Isa. 5:1-30) SIX DISTINCT WOES AGAINST CRIMES. (Isa. 5:8-23) (Lev 25:13; Mic 2:2). The jubilee restoration of posses...

TSK: Isaiah (Book Introduction) Isaiah has, with singular propriety, been denominated the Evangelical Prophet, on account of the number and variety of his prophecies concerning the a...

TSK: Isaiah 29 (Chapter Introduction) Overview Isa 29:1, God’s heavy judgment upon Jerusalem; Isa 29:7, The unsatiableness of her enemies; Isa 29:9, The senselessness, Isa 29:13. and...

Poole: Isaiah (Book Introduction) THE ARGUMENT THE teachers of the ancient church were of two sorts: 1. Ordinary, the priests and Levites. 2. Extraordinary, the prophets. These we...

Poole: Isaiah 29 (Chapter Introduction) CHAPTER 29 . The temple and city of Jerusalem destroyed, Isa 29:1-6 . Her enemies unsatiable, Isa 29:7,8 ; their senselessness, Isa 29:9-12 , and de...

MHCC: Isaiah (Book Introduction) Isaiah prophesied in the reigns of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, and Hezekiah. He has been well called the evangelical prophet, on account of his numerous and...

MHCC: Isaiah 29 (Chapter Introduction) (Isa 29:1-8) Judgements on Jerusalem and on its enemies. (Isa 29:9-16) The senselessness and hypocrisy of the Jews. (Isa 29:17-24) The conversion of...

Matthew Henry: Isaiah (Book Introduction) An Exposition, With Practical Observations, of The Book of the Prophet Isaiah Prophet is a title that sounds very great to those that understand it, t...

Matthew Henry: Isaiah 29 (Chapter Introduction) This woe to Ariel, which we have in this chapter, is the same with the " burden of the valley of vision" (Isa 22:1), and (it is very probable) poi...

Constable: Isaiah (Book Introduction) Introduction Title and writer The title of this book of the Bible, as is true of the o...

Constable: Isaiah (Outline) Outline I. Introduction chs. 1-5 A. Israel's condition and God's solution ch. 1 ...

Constable: Isaiah Isaiah Bibliography Alexander, Joseph Addison. Commentary on the Prophecies of Isaiah. 1846, 1847. Revised ed. ...

Haydock: Isaiah (Book Introduction) THE PROPHECY OF ISAIAS. INTRODUCTION. This inspired writer is called by the Holy Ghost, (Ecclesiasticus xlviii. 25.) the great prophet; from t...

Gill: Isaiah (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO ISAIAH This book is called, in the New Testament, sometimes "the Book of the Words of the Prophet Esaias", Luk 3:4 sometimes only t...

Gill: Isaiah 29 (Chapter Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO ISAIAH 29 This chapter contains a prophecy concerning the destruction of the temple and city of Jerusalem by the Romans; the charac...

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