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Text -- 1 Samuel 17:55 (NET)

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17:55 Now as Saul watched David going out to fight the Philistine, he asked Abner, the general in command of the army, “Whose son is this young man, Abner?” Abner replied, “As surely as you live, O king, I don’t know.”
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Names, People and Places, Dictionary Themes and Topics

Names, People and Places:
 · Abner a man of Benjamin in Saul and David's time
 · David a son of Jesse of Judah; king of Israel,son of Jesse of Judah; king of Israel
 · Philistines a sea people coming from Crete in 1200BC to the coast of Canaan
 · Saul the sixth king of Edom,son of Simeon and a Canaanite woman,son of Uzziah of Kohath son of Levi


Dictionary Themes and Topics: WAR; WARFARE | Suffering | Saul | SAMUEL, BOOKS OF | Philistines | OATH | JESSE | JAARE-OREGIM | Israel | Goliath | ELHANAN | David | Boasting | Abner | more
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TSK Synopsis , MHCC , Matthew Henry , Keil-Delitzsch , Constable , Guzik

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Commentary -- Word/Phrase Notes (per phrase)

Wesley: 1Sa 17:55 - -- David had been some considerable time dismissed from Saul's court, and was returned home. And therefore it is not strange, if Saul for the present had...

David had been some considerable time dismissed from Saul's court, and was returned home. And therefore it is not strange, if Saul for the present had forgot David. Besides the distemper of Saul's mind might make him forgetful; and that David might be now much changed, both in his countenance and in his habit.

Wesley: 1Sa 17:55 - -- Abner's employment was generally in the camp, when David was at the court; and when Abner was there, he took little notice of a person so much inferio...

Abner's employment was generally in the camp, when David was at the court; and when Abner was there, he took little notice of a person so much inferior to him as David was.

JFB: 1Sa 17:55-58 - -- A young man is more spoken of in many Eastern countries by his father's name than his own. The growth of the beard, and other changes on a now full-gr...

A young man is more spoken of in many Eastern countries by his father's name than his own. The growth of the beard, and other changes on a now full-grown youth, prevented the king from recognizing his former favorite minstrel [1Sa 16:23].

TSK: 1Sa 17:55 - -- whose son : 1Sa 17:58, 1Sa 16:21, 1Sa 16:22

whose son : 1Sa 17:58, 1Sa 16:21, 1Sa 16:22

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Commentary -- Word/Phrase Notes (per Verse)

Barnes: 1Sa 17:55 - -- Whose son ... - See the marginal reference note.

Whose son ... - See the marginal reference note.

Poole: 1Sa 17:55 - -- Whose son is this youth? Quest. How could David be unknown to Saul, with whom he had lived? 1Sa 16:21 . Answ That might well be, for divers reas...

Whose son is this youth?

Quest. How could David be unknown to Saul, with whom he had lived? 1Sa 16:21 .

Answ That might well be, for divers reasons, because David was not constantly with him, nor, as it seems, used by him, but upon extraordinary occasions, and desperate fits of melancholy; from which possibly he had been free for a good while, by God’ s special providence and care for his people Israel, that so he might be capable of governing and protecting them against the Philistines, who watched all opportunities against them, and at last broke forth into an open war. Thus David had been for some considerable time dismissed from Saul’ s court, and was returned home; and therefore it is not strange, if Saul had for the present forgotten David; for kings, because of the encumbrance of public business, and the multitude of persons who come to them on several occasions, may easily forget some persons; yea, such as have frequently been with them, especially their servants, whom they do not use to observe with so much attention and care as they do others. Add to this, that the distemper of Saul’ s mind might make him forgetful; and that David might now be much changed, both in his countenance and in his habit, from what he had before; and it is apparent, that the change of habits makes so great a difference, that it oft keeps us from the knowledge of those persons whom in other habits we very well know. Some give this answer, That this was the first time that Saul had seen David; and that David’ s exploit here recorded was performed before that which is recorded 1Sa 17:15 , though it be placed after it; but that is confuted by comparing 1Sa 18:1-3 .

I cannot tell which is not strange, because Abner’ s conversation and employment was generally in the camp, when David was at the court; and when Abner was there, he took little notice of a person so much inferior to him as David was.

Gill: 1Sa 17:55 - -- And when Saul saw David go forth against the Philistine,.... Set out to meet him, and engage with him, as he might from the side of the mountain, wher...

And when Saul saw David go forth against the Philistine,.... Set out to meet him, and engage with him, as he might from the side of the mountain, where he was encamped:

he said unto Abner, the captain of the host; his own cousin, whom he had raised to this high post in the army, 1Sa 14:50,

Abner, whose son is this youth? it is thought strange by many that Saul should not know who he was, when he had been often at his court, and served him as a musician, and had been very useful to him, and he loved him, and made him his armourbearer, and even had just now conversed with him about encountering with the Philistine, and had clothed him with his own armour: to get rid of the former part of the objection, some have supposed that this event happened before David was his musician and armourbearer, and is by anticipation spoken of in 1Sa 16:14, but that the connection with this and the following chapter will not admit of; and besides, before this event, David is said to return home from Saul, 1Sa 17:15; so that it is certain he had been at Saul's court, and in his presence before: but to remove this seeming difficulty it may be observed, that Saul, having laboured under a disorder of body and mind, might easily forget David, and his serving him in the above capacity; and to which the multiplicity of business, and of persons in a court, might greatly contribute; and what with the distance of time, and the different habits in which David appeared, sometimes as a musician, and sometimes as a shepherd, and at other times as a soldier, and always as a servant, it is no wonder the king should not know him again; though after all it is not about his person that he inquires, but whose son he was, what was his father's name, and from what family he sprung; for though Saul was made acquainted with this in the time of his disorder, and therefore sent to his father Jesse for him, and afterwards desired leave for his continuance; yet this might slip out of his memory in a course of time, he having had no personal knowledge of Jesse, nor any correspondence with him, but just at that time; and it behoved him to know the pedigree of David, since, if he was victorious, he was not only to be enriched by him, but to have his daughter for wife, and his family ennobled:

and Abner said, as thy soul liveth, O king, I cannot tell; he swore by the life of Saul, as Joseph by the life of Pharaoh, that he knew nothing of him; which need not at all seem strange, that a general of an army, always employed in military affairs, and often abroad, should know nothing of a domestic servant of Saul's, under the character of a musician, and not always at court either; and still less that he should be ignorant of his family, and know nothing of his father, who lived in obscurity in Bethlehem, and was an old man in those days.

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Commentary -- Verse Notes / Footnotes

NET Notes: 1Sa 17:55 Most LXX mss lack 17:55–18:5.

Geneva Bible: 1Sa 17:55 And when Saul saw David go forth against the Philistine, he said unto Abner, the captain of the host, Abner, ( e ) whose son [is] this youth? And Abne...

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Commentary -- Verse Range Notes

TSK Synopsis: 1Sa 17:1-58 - --1 The armies of the Israelites and Philistines being ready to battle,4 Goliath challenges a combat.12 David, sent by his father to visit his brethren,...

MHCC: 1Sa 17:48-58 - --See how frail and uncertain life is, even when a man thinks himself best fortified; how quickly, how easily, and by how small a matter, the passage ma...

Matthew Henry: 1Sa 17:48-58 - -- Here is 1. The engagement between the two champions, 1Sa 17:48. To this engagement the Philistine advanced with a great deal of state and gravity; i...

Keil-Delitzsch: 1Sa 17:55-56 - -- Jonathan's friendship . - 1Sa 17:55-58. The account of the relationinto which David was brought to Saul through the defeat of Goliath isintroduced ...

Constable: 1Sa 16:1--31:13 - --IV. SAUL AND DAVID 1 Sam. 16--31 The basic theme in Samuel, that blessing, and in particular fertility of all ki...

Constable: 1Sa 16:1--18:6 - --A. David's Rise as the New Anointed 16:1-18:5 According to Swindoll, more was written in the Bible about...

Constable: 1Sa 17:1-58 - --2. The reason for God's selection of David ch. 17 The exciting story of David and Goliath illust...

Constable: 1Sa 17:50-58 - --The results of David's victory 17:50-58 God used a humble weapon to give His people a gr...

Guzik: 1Sa 17:1-58 - --1 Samuel 17 - David and Goliath A. Goliath challenges Israel. 1. (1-10) The Philistine Goliath challenges Israel. Now the Philistines gathered the...

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Introduction / Outline

JFB: 1 Samuel (Book Introduction) THE FIRST AND SECOND BOOKS OF SAMUEL. The two were, by the ancient Jews, conjoined so as to make one book, and in that form could be called the Book o...

JFB: 1 Samuel (Outline) OF ELKANAH AND HIS TWO WIVES. (1Sa 1:1-8) HANNAH'S PRAYER. (1Sa 1:9-18) SAMUEL BORN. (1Sa 1:20) HANNAH'S SONG IN THANKFULNESS TO GOD. (1Sa 2:1-11) TH...

TSK: 1 Samuel (Book Introduction) The First Book of SAMUEL, otherwise called " The First Book of the KINGS."

TSK: 1 Samuel 17 (Chapter Introduction) Overview 1Sa 17:1, The armies of the Israelites and Philistines being ready to battle, 1Sa 17:4, Goliath challenges a combat; 1Sa 17:12, David, se...

Poole: 1 Samuel (Book Introduction) FIRST BOOK OF SAMUEL OTHERWISE CALLED THE FIRST BOOK OF THE KINGS. THE ARGUMENT. IT is not certainly known who was the penman of this Book, or whe...

Poole: 1 Samuel 17 (Chapter Introduction) SAMUEL CHAPTER 17 The armies of the Israelites and Philistines ready for battle: Goliath terrifieth the Israelites with his stature, armour, and ch...

MHCC: 1 Samuel (Book Introduction) In this book we have an account of Eli, and the wickedness of his sons; also of Samuel, his character and actions. Then of the advancement of Saul to ...

MHCC: 1 Samuel 17 (Chapter Introduction) (1Sa 17:1-11) Goliath's challenge. (v. 12-30) David comes to the camp. (1Sa 17:31-39) David undertakes to fight Goliath. (1Sa 17:40-47) And goes to...

Matthew Henry: 1 Samuel (Book Introduction) An Exposition, with Practical Observations, of The First Book of Samuel This book, and that which follows it, bear the name of Samuel in the title, ...

Matthew Henry: 1 Samuel 17 (Chapter Introduction) David is the man whom God now delights to honour, for he is a man after his own heart. We read in the foregoing chapter how, after he was anointed,...

Constable: 1 Samuel (Book Introduction) Introduction Title First and Second Samuel were originally one book called the Book of...

Constable: 1 Samuel (Outline) Outline I. Eli and Samuel chs. 1-3 A. The change from barrenness to fertility 1:1-2:10 ...

Constable: 1 Samuel 1 Samuel Bibliography Ackroyd, Peter R. The First Book of Samuel. Cambridge Bible Commentary on the New English...

Haydock: 1 Samuel (Book Introduction) THE FIRST BOOK OF SAMUEL; otherwise called, THE FIRST BOOK OF KINGS. INTRODUCTION. This and the following Book are called by the Hebrews, the...

Gill: 1 Samuel (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO 1 SAMUEL This book, in the Hebrew copies, is commonly called Samuel, or the Book of Samuel; in the Syriac version, the Book of Samu...

Gill: 1 Samuel 17 (Chapter Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO FIRST SAMUEL 17 This chapter relates how the armies of Israel, and of the Philistines, prepared for battle, and where, 1Sa 17:1, de...

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