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Text -- 1 Samuel 8:5 (NET)

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8:5 They said to him, “Look, you are old, and your sons don’t follow your ways. So now appoint over us a king to lead us, just like all the other nations have.”
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Wesley: 1Sa 8:5 - -- Their desires exceed their reasons, which extended no farther than to the removal of Samuel's sons from their places, and the procuring some other jus...

Their desires exceed their reasons, which extended no farther than to the removal of Samuel's sons from their places, and the procuring some other just: and prudent assistance to Samuel's age. Nor was the grant of their desire a remedy for their disease, but rather an aggravation of it. For the sons of their king were likely to he as corrupt as Samuel's sons and, if they were, would not be so easily removed.

Wesley: 1Sa 8:5 - -- That is, as most of the nations about us have. But there was not the like reason; because God had separated them from all other nations, and cautioned...

That is, as most of the nations about us have. But there was not the like reason; because God had separated them from all other nations, and cautioned them against the imitation of their examples, and had taken them into his own immediate care and government; which privilege other nations had not.

JFB: 1Sa 8:1-5 - -- He was now about fifty-four years of age, having discharged the office of sole judge for twelve years. Unable, from growing infirmities, to prosecute ...

He was now about fifty-four years of age, having discharged the office of sole judge for twelve years. Unable, from growing infirmities, to prosecute his circuit journeys through the country, he at length confined his magisterial duties to Ramah and its neighborhood (1Sa 7:15), delegating to his sons as his deputies the administration of justice in the southern districts of Palestine, their provincial court being held at Beer-sheba. The young men, however, did not inherit the high qualities of their father. Having corrupted the fountains of justice for their own private aggrandizement, a deputation of the leading men in the country lodged a complaint against them in headquarters, accompanied with a formal demand for a change in the government. The limited and occasional authority of the judges, the disunion and jealousy of the tribes under the administration of those rulers, had been creating a desire for a united and permanent form of government; while the advanced age of Samuel, together with the risk of his death happening in the then unsettled state of the people, was the occasion of calling forth an expression of this desire now.

Clarke: 1Sa 8:5 - -- Make us a king - Hitherto, from the time in which they were a people, the Israelites were under a theocracy, they had no other king but God. Now the...

Make us a king - Hitherto, from the time in which they were a people, the Israelites were under a theocracy, they had no other king but God. Now they desire to have a king like the other nations around them, who may be their general in battle; for this is the point at which they principally aim.

TSK: 1Sa 8:5 - -- now make : 1Sa 8:6-8, 1Sa 8:19, 1Sa 8:20, 1Sa 12:17; Num 23:9; Deu 17:14, Deu 17:15; Hos 13:10, Hos 13:11; Act 13:21

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Poole: 1Sa 8:5 - -- They feared that Samuel would not live long; and that either he through infirmity and indulgence might leave the government in his sons’ hands...

They feared that Samuel would not live long; and that either he through infirmity and indulgence might leave the government in his sons’ hands, or that they would invade and keep it after their father’ s death; and therefore they jointly make their complaints against them, and procure their removal from their places. Thus they are brought low, and crushed by those very wicked ways by which they desired to advance and establish themselves. So true is it, that honesty is the best policy, and unrighteousness the greatest folly.

Make us a king to judge us: their conclusion outruns their premises, and their desires exceed their reasons or arguments, which extended no further than to the removal of Samuel’ s sons from their places, and the procuring some other just and prudent assistance to Samuel’ s age. Nor was the grant of their desire a remedy for their disease, but rather an aggravation of it; for the sons of their king might and were likely to be as corrupt as Samuel’ s sons; and if they were, would not be so easily removed as these were.

Like all the nations i.e. as most of the nations about us have. But there was not the like reason, because God had separated them from all other nations, and cautioned them against the imitation of their examples, and had taken them into his own immediate care and government; which privilege other nations had not.

Haydock: 1Sa 8:5 - -- Judge us, in a different manner from what had been hitherto done. (Haydock) --- By a crying ingratitude, they reject the government of a wise old m...

Judge us, in a different manner from what had been hitherto done. (Haydock) ---

By a crying ingratitude, they reject the government of a wise old man, who had rendered them the most signal services. Perhaps the power of Naas, king of the Ammonites, might afford them some pretext for acting as they did. (Calmet) ---

As all, &c. They seem to prefer the dominion of kings, who ruled over the surrounding barbarous nations as they thought proper, (Haydock) before one who should be tied down to observe the laws, prescribed by God, (Menochius) in case the Israelites should wish to have a king, Deuteronomy xvii. (Haydock) ---

In the East, monarchy was the most ancient form of government. (Tacitus, Hist. iv.; Just. i.) "Principio, imperium penes Reges erat."

Gill: 1Sa 8:5 - -- And said unto him, behold, thou art old,.... See 1Sa 8:1, his age was no reproach to him, nor was it becoming them to upbraid him with it; nor was it ...

And said unto him, behold, thou art old,.... See 1Sa 8:1, his age was no reproach to him, nor was it becoming them to upbraid him with it; nor was it a reason why he should be removed from his office, for it did not disqualify him for it; but rather, having gained by age experience, was more fit for it, though he might not be able to ride his circuits as formerly:

and thy sons walk not in thy ways; whom he had made judges; this is a better reason than the former for what is after requested; and had they only besought them to remove him from their places, and rested content with that, it would have been well enough; but what they were solicitous for, and always had an inclination to, and now thought a proper opportunity offered of obtaining it, was what follows:

now make us a king to judge us like all the nations; to rule over them as sole monarch; to go before them in battle as their general, as well as to administer justice to them, by hearing and trying causes as their judge; which only they mention to cover their views, and make their motion more acceptable to Samuel; what they were desirous of was to have a king appearing in pomp and splendour, wearing a crown of gold, clothed in royal apparel, with a sceptre in his hand, dwelling in a stately palace, keeping a splendid court, and attended with a grand retinue, as the rest of the nations about them had had for a long time. The first kings we read of were in the times of Abraham, but after it became common for nations to have kings over them, and particularly the neighbours of Israel, as Edom, Moab, Ammon, &c. and Cicero says x, all the ancient nations had their kings, to whom they were obedient: Israel had God for their King in a peculiar manner other nations had not, and stood in no need of any other; and happy it would have been for them if they had been content therewith, and not sought after another: however, they were so modest, and paid such deference to Samuel, as to desire him to make or appoint one for them.

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Commentary -- Verse Notes / Footnotes

NET Notes: 1Sa 8:5 Heb “judge” (also in v. 6).

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TSK Synopsis: 1Sa 8:1-22 - --1 By occasion of the ill government of Samuel's sons, the Israelites ask a king.6 Samuel praying in grief, is comforted by God.10 He tells the manner ...

Maclaren: 1Sa 8:4-20 - --1 Samuel 8:4-20 The office of judge was as little capable of transmission from father to son as that of prophet, so that Samuel's appointment of his s...

MHCC: 1Sa 8:4-9 - --Samuel was displeased; he could patiently bear what reflected on himself, and his own family; but it displeased him when they said, Give us a king to ...

Matthew Henry: 1Sa 8:4-22 - -- We have here the starting of a matter perfectly new and surprising, which was the setting up of kingly government in Israel. Perhaps the thing had b...

Keil-Delitzsch: 1Sa 8:1-5 - -- 1Sa 8:1-2 The reason assigned for the appointment of Samuel's sons asjudges is his own advanced age. The inference which we might draw fromthis al...

Constable: 1Sa 8:1--12:25 - --B. Kingship Given to Saul chs. 8-12 "Clearly these five chapters constitute a literary unit, for they ar...

Constable: 1Sa 8:4-9 - --The reason for requesting a king 8:4-9 God had made provision for kings to rule His peop...

Guzik: 1Sa 8:1-22 - --1 Samuel 8 - Israel Demands a King A. The people of Israel request a king. 1. (1-3) Samuel appoints his sons as judges. Now it came to pass when S...

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Introduction / Outline

JFB: 1 Samuel (Book Introduction) THE FIRST AND SECOND BOOKS OF SAMUEL. The two were, by the ancient Jews, conjoined so as to make one book, and in that form could be called the Book o...

JFB: 1 Samuel (Outline) OF ELKANAH AND HIS TWO WIVES. (1Sa 1:1-8) HANNAH'S PRAYER. (1Sa 1:9-18) SAMUEL BORN. (1Sa 1:20) HANNAH'S SONG IN THANKFULNESS TO GOD. (1Sa 2:1-11) TH...

TSK: 1 Samuel (Book Introduction) The First Book of SAMUEL, otherwise called " The First Book of the KINGS."

TSK: 1 Samuel 8 (Chapter Introduction) Overview 1Sa 8:1, By occasion of the ill government of Samuel’s sons, the Israelites ask a king; 1Sa 8:6, Samuel praying in grief, is comforted ...

Poole: 1 Samuel (Book Introduction) FIRST BOOK OF SAMUEL OTHERWISE CALLED THE FIRST BOOK OF THE KINGS. THE ARGUMENT. IT is not certainly known who was the penman of this Book, or whe...

Poole: 1 Samuel 8 (Chapter Introduction) SAMUEL CHAPTER 8 Samuel makes his sons judges over Israel; their names, and ill government, 1Sa 8:1-3 . The people ask a king: Samuel is grieved; p...

MHCC: 1 Samuel (Book Introduction) In this book we have an account of Eli, and the wickedness of his sons; also of Samuel, his character and actions. Then of the advancement of Saul to ...

MHCC: 1 Samuel 8 (Chapter Introduction) (1Sa 8:1-3) The evil government of Samuel's sons. (1Sa 8:4-9) The Israelites ask for a king. (1Sa 8:10-22) The manner of a king.

Matthew Henry: 1 Samuel (Book Introduction) An Exposition, with Practical Observations, of The First Book of Samuel This book, and that which follows it, bear the name of Samuel in the title, ...

Matthew Henry: 1 Samuel 8 (Chapter Introduction) Things went so very well with Israel, in the chapter before, under Samuel's administration, that, methinks, it is a pity to find him so quickly, as...

Constable: 1 Samuel (Book Introduction) Introduction Title First and Second Samuel were originally one book called the Book of...

Constable: 1 Samuel (Outline) Outline I. Eli and Samuel chs. 1-3 A. The change from barrenness to fertility 1:1-2:10 ...

Constable: 1 Samuel 1 Samuel Bibliography Ackroyd, Peter R. The First Book of Samuel. Cambridge Bible Commentary on the New English...

Haydock: 1 Samuel (Book Introduction) THE FIRST BOOK OF SAMUEL; otherwise called, THE FIRST BOOK OF KINGS. INTRODUCTION. This and the following Book are called by the Hebrews, the...

Gill: 1 Samuel (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO 1 SAMUEL This book, in the Hebrew copies, is commonly called Samuel, or the Book of Samuel; in the Syriac version, the Book of Samu...

Gill: 1 Samuel 8 (Chapter Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO FIRST SAMUEL 8 This chapter relates, how that Samuel being old, and his sons behaving ill, the people desired to have a king set ov...

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