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Text -- 1 Samuel 8:20-22 (NET)

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8:20 We will be like all the other nations. Our king will judge us and lead us and fight our battles.” 8:21 So Samuel listened to everything the people said and then reported it to the Lord. 8:22 The Lord said to Samuel, “Do as they say and install a king over them.” Then Samuel said to the men of Israel, “Each of you go back to his own city.”
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Names, People and Places, Dictionary Themes and Topics

Names, People and Places:
 · Israel a citizen of Israel.,a member of the nation of Israel
 · Samuel son of Ammihud; Moses' land distribution deputy for Simeon,son of Tola son of Issachar


Dictionary Themes and Topics: Worldliness | Saul | Samuel | REHEARSE | PHILISTINES | MAKE, MAKER | KING; KINGDOM | KING | JUDGING JUDGMENT | Israel | Government | ARMY | more
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Commentary -- Word/Phrase Notes (per phrase)

Wesley: 1Sa 8:20 - -- What stupidity! It was their happiness that they were unlike all other nations, Num 23:9; Deu 33:28, as in other glorious privileges, so especially in...

What stupidity! It was their happiness that they were unlike all other nations, Num 23:9; Deu 33:28, as in other glorious privileges, so especially in this, that the Lord was their immediate king and lawgiver. But they will have a king to go out before them, and to fight their battles. Could they desire a battle better fought for them than the last was, by Samuel's prayers and God's thunders? Were they fond to try the chance of war, at the same uncertainty that others did? And what was the issue? Their first king was slain in battle: and so was Joshua, one of the last and best.

Wesley: 1Sa 8:21 - -- He repeated them privately between God and himself; for his own vindication and comfort: and as a foundation for his prayers to God, for direction and...

He repeated them privately between God and himself; for his own vindication and comfort: and as a foundation for his prayers to God, for direction and assistance.

Wesley: 1Sa 8:22 - -- Betake yourselves to your several occasions, till you hear more from me in this matter.

Betake yourselves to your several occasions, till you hear more from me in this matter.

JFB: 1Sa 8:19-22 - -- They sneered at Samuel's description as a bugbear to frighten them. Determined, at all hazards, to gain their object, they insisted on being made like...

They sneered at Samuel's description as a bugbear to frighten them. Determined, at all hazards, to gain their object, they insisted on being made like all the other nations, though it was their glory and happiness to be unlike other nations in having the Lord for their King and Lawgiver (Num 23:9; Deu 33:28). Their demand was conceded, for the government of a king had been provided for in the law; and they were dismissed to wait the appointment, which God had reserved to Himself (Deu 17:14-20).

Clarke: 1Sa 8:20 - -- May judge us - This appears to be a rejection of Samuel

May judge us - This appears to be a rejection of Samuel

Clarke: 1Sa 8:20 - -- Go out before us - Be in every respect our head and governor

Go out before us - Be in every respect our head and governor

Clarke: 1Sa 8:20 - -- And fight our battles - Be the general of our armies.

And fight our battles - Be the general of our armies.

Clarke: 1Sa 8:21 - -- Rehearsed them in the ears of the Lord - He went to the altar, and in his secret devotion laid the whole business before God.

Rehearsed them in the ears of the Lord - He went to the altar, and in his secret devotion laid the whole business before God.

Clarke: 1Sa 8:22 - -- Hearken unto their voice - Let them have what they desire, and let them abide the consequences

Hearken unto their voice - Let them have what they desire, and let them abide the consequences

Clarke: 1Sa 8:22 - -- Go ye every man unto his city - It seems the elders of the people had tarried all this time with Samuel, and when he had received his ultimate answe...

Go ye every man unto his city - It seems the elders of the people had tarried all this time with Samuel, and when he had received his ultimate answer from God, he told them of it and dismissed them

On this account we may observe

1.    That God did not change the government of Israel; it was the people themselves who changed it

2.    That though God permitted them to have a king, yet he did not approve of him

3.    That, notwithstanding he did not suffer them to choose the man, he ordered his servant Samuel to choose him by lot, he disposing of that lot

4.    That God never gave up the supreme government; he was still King in Israel, and the king, so called, was only the vicegerent or deputy of the Lord

5.    That no king of Judah attempted to be supreme, therefore they never made new laws, nor altered the old; which was a positive confession that God was the supreme Legislator

6.    That an absolute monarchy is always an evil, and is contrary to all the rights, civil and religious, of mankind; a mode of government that all people should avoid, as pregnant with evils to mankind

7.    That although it was a sin in the Israelites to desire a king, that is, to change a constitution of which God was the author, yet kingly government, properly understood, is a good of the first magnitude to the civil happiness of mankind

8.    That by kingly government, properly understood, I mean such a monarchical government as that of Great Britain, where the king, the nobles, and the people, are duly mixed, each having his proper part in the government, and each preventing the other from running to excess, and all limited by law

9.    That the three grand forms of government which have obtained among mankind, viz., monarchy, aristocracy, and democracy, have each certain advantages without which no state can be well preserved; but they have evils by which any state may be injured

10.    That, from a proper mixture of these, the advantages of the whole may be reaped without any of their attendant evils, and that this is the British constitution; which, not merely the wisdom of our ancestors, but the providence of God has given unto us, and of which no other state has had common sense enough to avail themselves, though they see that because of this the British empire is the most powerful and the most happy in the universe, and likely at last to give laws to the whole world

The manner of our king is constitutional, widely different from that of Saul, and from that of any other potentate in the four quarters of the globe. He is the father of his people, and the people feel and love him as such. He has all the power necessary to do good; they have all the liberty necessary to their political happiness, had they only a diminution of taxes, which at present are too heavy for any nation to bear.

TSK: 1Sa 8:20 - -- 1Sa 8:5; Exo 33:16; Lev 20:24-26; Num 23:9; Deu 7:6; Psa 106:35; Joh 15:19; Rom 12:12; 2Co 6:17; Phi 3:20; 1Pe 2:9

TSK: 1Sa 8:21 - -- he rehearsed : Jdg 11:11

he rehearsed : Jdg 11:11

TSK: 1Sa 8:22 - -- 1Sa 8:7; Hos 13:11

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Commentary -- Word/Phrase Notes (per Verse)

Barnes: 1Sa 8:20 - -- Fight our battles - It appears from 1Sa 12:12, that the warlike movements of Nahash had already begun to excite alarm.

Fight our battles - It appears from 1Sa 12:12, that the warlike movements of Nahash had already begun to excite alarm.

Barnes: 1Sa 8:22 - -- A repetition for the third time 1Sa 8:7, 1Sa 8:9 of the expression of God’ s will in the matter, marks Samuel’ s great unwillingness to co...

A repetition for the third time 1Sa 8:7, 1Sa 8:9 of the expression of God’ s will in the matter, marks Samuel’ s great unwillingness to comply with the people’ s request. Besides the natural aversion which he felt to being thrust aside after so many years of faithful and laborious service, and the natural prejudice which he would feel at his age against a new form of government, he doubtless saw how much of the evil heart of unbelief there was in the desire to have a visible king for their leader, instead of trusting to the invisible Lord who had hitherto led them. But God had His own purpose in setting up the kingdom which was to be typical of the kingdom of His only begotten Son.

Poole: 1Sa 8:20 - -- That we also may be like all the nations: woeful stupidity! whereas it was their glory and happiness that they were unlike all other nations, Num 23:...

That we also may be like all the nations: woeful stupidity! whereas it was their glory and happiness that they were unlike all other nations, Num 23:9 Deu 33:28 , as in other glorious privileges, so especially in this, that the Lord was their only and immediate King and Lawgiver.

Poole: 1Sa 8:21 - -- He repeated them privately between God and himself; partly for his own vindication and comfort; and partly as a foundation for his prayers to God, f...

He repeated them privately between God and himself; partly for his own vindication and comfort; and partly as a foundation for his prayers to God, for direction and assistance in this difficult case.

Poole: 1Sa 8:22 - -- Betake yourselves to your several occasions, till you hear more from me in this matter; for God hath heard your words, and will give way to your irr...

Betake yourselves to your several occasions, till you hear more from me in this matter; for God hath heard your words, and will give way to your irregular and obstinate desire; and accordingly I shall wait upon God for the determination of the person, which he hath wholly reserved to himself, as for judges, so for the king also, Deu 17:15 , and for the regulation of all the circumstances.

Haydock: 1Sa 8:20 - -- Nations. We are neither better nor worse than the rest. What extravagance! for a people to abandon a state of happiness, and the dominion of God, a...

Nations. We are neither better nor worse than the rest. What extravagance! for a people to abandon a state of happiness, and the dominion of God, and to prefer the service of a man! (Calmet) ---

For us. This was the pretext, as Naas threatened them with war, chap. xii. 12. (Menochius)

Gill: 1Sa 8:20 - -- That we also may be like all the nations,.... Even though they were slaves, like them; a king they would have, as they had, such was their stupidity. ...

That we also may be like all the nations,.... Even though they were slaves, like them; a king they would have, as they had, such was their stupidity. It was their greatest honour and glory, as well as happiness, not to be like other nations; as in their religion, laws, and liberties, so in their form of government; God being their King in such a peculiar sense as he was not of others, but with this they could not be content:

and that our king may judge us; hear their causes, administer justice and judgment to them, protect their persons and properties, and rule them according to the civil laws that were given them:

and go out before us, and fight our battles; which Samuel their present judge did not, and to which perhaps they may have some respect; but then he gained more for them by his prayers, than a king or general would by his military skill or prowess, see 1Sa 7:10, and it is very remarkable, and what is observed by some, that their first king died in a battle. What made them so pressing and importunate to have a king at, this time, and not defer it to another, it is very probable was, that they understood that Nahash, king of the children of Ammon, was preparing to attack them, and therefore they were desirous to have a king also to go out before them, and meet him, and give him battle, 1Sa 12:12.

Gill: 1Sa 8:21 - -- And Samuel heard all the words of the people,.... Patiently, and without interruption; attentively heard them, took notice of them, laid them up in hi...

And Samuel heard all the words of the people,.... Patiently, and without interruption; attentively heard them, took notice of them, laid them up in his memory; but gave no answer to them, but reported them to the Lord, as in the next clause:

and he rehearsed them in the ears of the Lord; privately, in a free and familiar manner, with great exactness, as they were expressed; this he did, not before the people publicly, but in secret prayer, seeking for direction what he should further do, or what answer he should return to them.

Gill: 1Sa 8:22 - -- And the Lord said to Samuel,.... an audible voice, or by an impulse upon his mind: hearken unto their voice, and make them a king; since they will ...

And the Lord said to Samuel,.... an audible voice, or by an impulse upon his mind:

hearken unto their voice, and make them a king; since they will have a king, let them have one, and let them know that they shall have one:

and Samuel said unto the men of Israel: the elders of the people that addressed him on this occasion, 1Sa 8:4.

go ye every man unto his city; signifying they might return in peace, and be assured their request would be granted, and a king would be appointed in a short time, and which they might report to their fellow citizens; and they might expect to hear from him quickly, as soon as he had instructions from the Lord who should be their king, which right he had reserved to himself; and therefore in the mean while they might rest contented that they would have one in a little time.

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Commentary -- Verse Notes / Footnotes

NET Notes: 1Sa 8:20 Heb “and go out before us.”

NET Notes: 1Sa 8:21 Heb “and Samuel heard all the words of the people and he spoke them into the ears of the Lord.”

NET Notes: 1Sa 8:22 Heb “listen to their voice.”

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Commentary -- Verse Range Notes

TSK Synopsis: 1Sa 8:1-22 - --1 By occasion of the ill government of Samuel's sons, the Israelites ask a king.6 Samuel praying in grief, is comforted by God.10 He tells the manner ...

Maclaren: 1Sa 8:4-20 - --1 Samuel 8:4-20 The office of judge was as little capable of transmission from father to son as that of prophet, so that Samuel's appointment of his s...

MHCC: 1Sa 8:10-22 - --If they would have a king to rule them, as the eastern kings ruled their subjects, they would find the yoke exceedingly heavy. Those that submit to th...

Matthew Henry: 1Sa 8:4-22 - -- We have here the starting of a matter perfectly new and surprising, which was the setting up of kingly government in Israel. Perhaps the thing had b...

Keil-Delitzsch: 1Sa 8:19-20 - -- With such a description of the " right of the king "as this, Samuel hadpointed out to the elders the dangers connected with a monarchy in soalarming...

Keil-Delitzsch: 1Sa 8:21-22 - -- These words of the people were laid by Samuel before the Lord, and theLord commanded him to give the people a king. With this answer Samuelsent the ...

Constable: 1Sa 8:1--12:25 - --B. Kingship Given to Saul chs. 8-12 "Clearly these five chapters constitute a literary unit, for they ar...

Constable: 1Sa 8:10-22 - --The consequences of requesting a king 8:10-22 Samuel explained what having a king simila...

Guzik: 1Sa 8:1-22 - --1 Samuel 8 - Israel Demands a King A. The people of Israel request a king. 1. (1-3) Samuel appoints his sons as judges. Now it came to pass when S...

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Introduction / Outline

JFB: 1 Samuel (Book Introduction) THE FIRST AND SECOND BOOKS OF SAMUEL. The two were, by the ancient Jews, conjoined so as to make one book, and in that form could be called the Book o...

JFB: 1 Samuel (Outline) OF ELKANAH AND HIS TWO WIVES. (1Sa 1:1-8) HANNAH'S PRAYER. (1Sa 1:9-18) SAMUEL BORN. (1Sa 1:20) HANNAH'S SONG IN THANKFULNESS TO GOD. (1Sa 2:1-11) TH...

TSK: 1 Samuel (Book Introduction) The First Book of SAMUEL, otherwise called " The First Book of the KINGS."

TSK: 1 Samuel 8 (Chapter Introduction) Overview 1Sa 8:1, By occasion of the ill government of Samuel’s sons, the Israelites ask a king; 1Sa 8:6, Samuel praying in grief, is comforted ...

Poole: 1 Samuel (Book Introduction) FIRST BOOK OF SAMUEL OTHERWISE CALLED THE FIRST BOOK OF THE KINGS. THE ARGUMENT. IT is not certainly known who was the penman of this Book, or whe...

Poole: 1 Samuel 8 (Chapter Introduction) SAMUEL CHAPTER 8 Samuel makes his sons judges over Israel; their names, and ill government, 1Sa 8:1-3 . The people ask a king: Samuel is grieved; p...

MHCC: 1 Samuel (Book Introduction) In this book we have an account of Eli, and the wickedness of his sons; also of Samuel, his character and actions. Then of the advancement of Saul to ...

MHCC: 1 Samuel 8 (Chapter Introduction) (1Sa 8:1-3) The evil government of Samuel's sons. (1Sa 8:4-9) The Israelites ask for a king. (1Sa 8:10-22) The manner of a king.

Matthew Henry: 1 Samuel (Book Introduction) An Exposition, with Practical Observations, of The First Book of Samuel This book, and that which follows it, bear the name of Samuel in the title, ...

Matthew Henry: 1 Samuel 8 (Chapter Introduction) Things went so very well with Israel, in the chapter before, under Samuel's administration, that, methinks, it is a pity to find him so quickly, as...

Constable: 1 Samuel (Book Introduction) Introduction Title First and Second Samuel were originally one book called the Book of...

Constable: 1 Samuel (Outline) Outline I. Eli and Samuel chs. 1-3 A. The change from barrenness to fertility 1:1-2:10 ...

Constable: 1 Samuel 1 Samuel Bibliography Ackroyd, Peter R. The First Book of Samuel. Cambridge Bible Commentary on the New English...

Haydock: 1 Samuel (Book Introduction) THE FIRST BOOK OF SAMUEL; otherwise called, THE FIRST BOOK OF KINGS. INTRODUCTION. This and the following Book are called by the Hebrews, the...

Gill: 1 Samuel (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO 1 SAMUEL This book, in the Hebrew copies, is commonly called Samuel, or the Book of Samuel; in the Syriac version, the Book of Samu...

Gill: 1 Samuel 8 (Chapter Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO FIRST SAMUEL 8 This chapter relates, how that Samuel being old, and his sons behaving ill, the people desired to have a king set ov...

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