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Text -- 2 Thessalonians 2:5 (NET)

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2:5 Surely you recall that I used to tell you these things while I was still with you.
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Dictionary Themes and Topics: THESSALONIANS, THE SECOND EPISTLE OF PAUL TO THE | MAN OF SIN | Jesus, The Christ | Antichrist | more
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Robertson: 2Th 2:5 - -- When I was yet with you ( eti ōn pros humas ). The present participle takes the time of the verb elegon (imperfect active), I used to tell you t...

When I was yet with you ( eti ōn pros humas ).

The present participle takes the time of the verb elegon (imperfect active), I used to tell you these things. So Paul recalls their memory of his words and leaves us without the clue to his idea. We know that one of the charges against him was that Jesus was another king, a rival to Caesar (Act 17:7). That leads one to wonder how far Paul went when there in contrasting the kingdom of the world of which Rome was ruler and the kingdom of God of which Christ is king. Frame notes Paul’ s abrupt question here "with an unfinished sentence behind him"(2Th 2:3.), even "with a trace of impatience."

JFB: 2Th 2:5 - -- Confuting those who represent Paul as having labored under error as to Christ's immediate coming when writing his first Epistle, and as now correcting...

Confuting those who represent Paul as having labored under error as to Christ's immediate coming when writing his first Epistle, and as now correcting that error.

JFB: 2Th 2:5 - -- More than once, literally, "I was telling," or "used to tell."

More than once, literally, "I was telling," or "used to tell."

Clarke: 2Th 2:5 - -- I told you these things - In several parts of this description of the man of sin, the apostle alludes to a conversation which had taken place betwee...

I told you these things - In several parts of this description of the man of sin, the apostle alludes to a conversation which had taken place between him and the members of this Church when he was at Thessalonica; and this one circumstance will account for much of the obscurity that is in these verses. Besides, the apostle appears to speak with great caution, and does not at all wish to publish what he had communicated to them; the hints which he drops were sufficient to call the whole to their remembrance.

Calvin: 2Th 2:5 - -- 5.Do ye not remember? This added no small weight to the doctrine, that they had previously heard it from the mouth of Paul, that they might not think...

5.Do ye not remember? This added no small weight to the doctrine, that they had previously heard it from the mouth of Paul, that they might not think that it had been contrived by him at the instant. And as he had given them early warning as to the reign of Antichrist, and the devastation that was coming upon the Church, when no question had as yet been raised as to such things, he saw beyond all doubt that the doctrine was specially useful to be known. And, unquestionably, it is really so. Those whom he addressed were destined to see many things that would trouble them; and when posterity would see a large proportion of those who had made profession of the faith of Christ revolt from piety, maddened, as it were, by a gad-fly, or rather by a fury, 650 what could they do but waver? This, however, was as a brazen 651 wall 652 — that matters were so appointed by God, because the ingratitude of men 653 was worthy of such vengeance. Here we may see how forgetful men are in matters affecting their everlasting salvation. We must also observe Paul’s mildness; for while he might have been vehemently incensed, 654 he does but mildly reprove them; for it is a fatherly way of reproving them to say to them, that they had allowed forgetfulness of a matter so important and so useful to steal in upon their minds.

TSK: 2Th 2:5 - -- Remember : Mat 16:9; Mar 8:18; Luk 24:6, Luk 24:7; Act 20:31 when : 2Th 3:10; Joh 16:4; Gal 5:21; 1Th 2:11; 2Pe 1:15

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Barnes: 2Th 2:5 - -- Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? - The whole subject of the second coming of the Saviour seems to have ...

Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? - The whole subject of the second coming of the Saviour seems to have constituted an important part of the instructions of Paul when at Thessalonica. He now refers them to what he had told them respecting the great apostasy, to show that his views had not changed, and that he did not mean to have them understand that the world would soon come to an end. He had stated these things to them implying that a considerable interval must elapse before the Saviour would appear. Much of the obscurity of this prophecy arises from the fact, that the apostle alludes to things which he had told them when with them, of which we have now no knowledge. Hence, what would be perfectly clear to them, on reading this letter, is now difficult to be understood.

Poole: 2Th 2:5 - -- The apostle tacitly upbraids them for their forgetfulness. To forget the things that have been taught us, is a great evil: Solomon often cautions ag...

The apostle tacitly upbraids them for their forgetfulness. To forget the things that have been taught us, is a great evil: Solomon often cautions against it, Pro 3:1 4:5 ; and it is often reproved, Heb 12:5 Jam 1:24 ; and the contrary required, Mal 4:4 Joh 16:4 Jud 1:17 Rev 3:3 . David hid the word in his heart, Psa 119:11 , and the virgin Mary kept the angel’ s sayings, Luk 2:19 . The apostles did take care to tell the churches of the apostacy that would come, and of false prophets and teachers that would arise, as Paul the elders of Ephesus, Act 20:29,30 , and Peter, 2Pe 2:1 , and St. John of the coming of antichrist, 1Jo 2:18 ; and more fully, though obscurely, in the book of the Revelation; and the apostle here in this verse minds these Thessalonians that he told them of the coming of the man of sin before the coming of Christ, so that they should not have been shaken in their minds about Christ’ s coming in that present age. And they told the churches of these things, that they might not be surprised by them, or offended at them, when they came.

Gill: 2Th 2:5 - -- Remember ye not, that when I was yet with you,.... At Thessalonica, for the apostle had been there in person, and had preached there with great boldne...

Remember ye not, that when I was yet with you,.... At Thessalonica, for the apostle had been there in person, and had preached there with great boldness and success; he had declared the whole counsel of God, and the Gospel came in power and worked effectually in them, and yet there was too great a forgetfulness of it; with which the apostle tacitly charges them, and rebukes them gently for it; and as a faithful monitor, stirs up their pure minds by way of remembrance, and reminds them of former truths delivered to them:

I told you these things: or "words" as the Arabic version; concerning the coming of Christ as that it would not be yet, that there, must be a defection from the faith, and antichrist must be revealed; which shows that these were things of moment and importance, and were useful and profitable to be insisted on; and therefore the apostle had told them of them, and spoke freely and largely about them, at his first preaching among them, and were what he inculcated everywhere; and also that his doctrine was all of a piece at one time as another; it was not yea and nay, or contradictory; what he now said was no other than what he had said before; and therefore it was the more inexcusable in them, to be shaken or troubled by any means with another doctrine.

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Commentary -- Verse Notes / Footnotes

NET Notes: 2Th 2:5 Grk “You do remember, don’t you?”

Geneva Bible: 2Th 2:5 ( 5 ) Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? ( 5 ) This prophecy was continually declared to the ancient Church, bu...

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Commentary -- Verse Range Notes

TSK Synopsis: 2Th 2:1-17 - --1 Paul urges them to continue stedfast in the truth received;3 shows that there shall be a departure from the faith,9 and a discovery of Antichrist, b...

MHCC: 2Th 2:5-12 - --Something hindered or withheld the man of sin. It is supposed to be the power of the Roman empire, which the apostle did not mention more plainly at t...

Matthew Henry: 2Th 2:3-12 - -- In these words the apostle confutes the error against which he had cautioned them, and gives the reasons why they should not expect the coming of Ch...

Barclay: 2Th 2:1-12 - --This is undoubtedly one of the most difficult passages in the whole New Testament; and it is so because it is using terms and thinking in pictures wh...

Constable: 2Th 2:1-12 - --III. CORRECTION OF PRESENT ERROR 2:1-12 Paul next dealt with a doctrinal error that had come into the Thessaloni...

Constable: 2Th 2:1-5 - --A. The beginning of the day of the Lord 2:1-5 2:1-2 Paul introduced his teaching by urging his readers not to be shaken from their adherence to the tr...

College: 2Th 2:1-17 - --2 THESSALONIANS 2 III. INSTRUCTION ON THE LORD'S RETURN (2:1-12) This section, which is central to the entire second Thessalonian letter, presents o...

McGarvey: 2Th 2:5 - --Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? [Literally, was telling. He had repeated the instruction often, and now repro...

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Introduction / Outline

Robertson: 2 Thessalonians (Book Introduction) Second Thessalonians From Corinth a.d. 50 Or 51 By Way of Introduction It is plain that First Thessalonians did not settle all the difficulties ...

JFB: 2 Thessalonians (Book Introduction) Its GENUINENESS is attested by POLYCARP [Epistle to the Philippians, 11], who alludes to 2Th 3:15. JUSTIN MARTYR [Dialogue with Trypho, p. 193.32], al...

JFB: 2 Thessalonians (Outline) ADDRESS AND SALUTATION: INTRODUCTION: THANKSGIVING FOR THEIR GROWTH IN FAITH AND LOVE, AND FOR THEIR PATIENCE IN PERSECUTIONS, WHICH ARE A TOKEN FOR ...

TSK: 2 Thessalonians (Book Introduction) The First Epistle to the Thessalonians, it is generally agreed, was the earliest written of all St. Paul’s epistles, whence we see the reason and pr...

TSK: 2 Thessalonians 2 (Chapter Introduction) Overview 2Th 2:1, Paul urges them to continue stedfast in the truth received; 2Th 2:3, shows that there shall be a departure from the faith, 2Th 2...

Poole: 2 Thessalonians 2 (Chapter Introduction) THESSALONIANS CHAPTER 2

MHCC: 2 Thessalonians (Book Introduction) The second epistle to the Thessalonians was written soon after the first. The apostle was told that, from some expressions in his first letter, many e...

MHCC: 2 Thessalonians 2 (Chapter Introduction) (2Th 2:1-4) Cautions against the error that the time of Christ's coming was just at hand. There would first be a general apostacy from the faith, and ...

Matthew Henry: 2 Thessalonians (Book Introduction) An Exposition, with Practical Observations, of The Second Epistle of St. Paul to the Thessalonians This Second Epistle was written soon after the form...

Matthew Henry: 2 Thessalonians 2 (Chapter Introduction) The apostle is very careful to hinder the spreading of an error into which some among them had fallen concerning the coming of Christ, as being ver...

Barclay: 2 Thessalonians (Book Introduction) A GENERAL INTRODUCTION TO THE LETTERS OF PAUL The Letters Of Paul There is no more interesting body of documents in the New Testament than the letter...

Barclay: 2 Thessalonians 2 (Chapter Introduction) The Lawless One (2Th_2:1-12) God's Demand And Our Effort (2Th_2:13-17)

Constable: 2 Thessalonians (Book Introduction) Introduction Historical background This epistle contains evidence that Paul had recent...

Constable: 2 Thessalonians (Outline)

Constable: 2 Thessalonians 2 Thessalonians Bibliography Barclay, William. The Letters to the Philippians, Colossians and Thessalonians. Da...

Haydock: 2 Thessalonians (Book Introduction) THE SECOND EPISTLE OF ST. PAUL, THE APOSTLE, TO THE THESSALONIANS. INTRODUCTION. In this epistle St. Paul admonishes the Thessalonians to be c...

Gill: 2 Thessalonians (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO 2 THESSALONIANS This second epistle was written, not from Athens, as the subscription testifies, nor from Rome, as Athanasius a sup...

Gill: 2 Thessalonians 2 (Chapter Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO 2 THESSALONIANS 2 In this chapter the apostle guards against a notion, as if the second coming of Christ was at hand; declares that...

College: 2 Thessalonians (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION The pressures of persecution, apparent in 1 Thessalonians, have intensified in this letter. In its three brief chapters the reader perce...

College: 2 Thessalonians (Outline) OUTLINE I. GREETING - 1:1-2 II. OPENING THANKSGIVING, ENCOURAGEMENT AND PRAYER - 1:3-12 A. Thanksgiving for the Thessalonians' Growth and Endu...

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