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Text -- 2 Samuel 12:23 (NET)

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12:23 But now he is dead. Why should I fast? Am I able to bring him back? I will go to him, but he cannot return to me!’”
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Wesley: 2Sa 12:23 - -- Seeing fasting and prayer cannot now prevail with God for his life.

Seeing fasting and prayer cannot now prevail with God for his life.

Wesley: 2Sa 12:23 - -- Into the state of the dead in which he is, and into heaven, where I doubt not I shall find him.

Into the state of the dead in which he is, and into heaven, where I doubt not I shall find him.

JFB: 2Sa 12:15-23 - -- The first visible chastisement inflicted on David appeared on the person of that child which was the evidence and monument of his guilt. His domestics...

The first visible chastisement inflicted on David appeared on the person of that child which was the evidence and monument of his guilt. His domestics were surprised at his conduct, and in explanation of its singularity, it is necessary to remark that the custom in the East is to leave the nearest relative of a deceased person to the full and undisturbed indulgence of his grief, till on the third or fourth day at farthest (Joh 11:17). Then the other relatives and friends visit him, invite him to eat, lead him to a bath, and bring him a change of dress, which is necessary from his having sat or lain on the ground. The surprise of David's servants, then, who had seen his bitter anguish while the child was sick, arose apparently from this, that when he found it was dead, he who had so deeply lamented arose of himself from the earth, without waiting for their coming to him, immediately bathed and anointed himself, instead of appearing as a mourner, and after worshiping God with solemnity, returned to his wonted repast, without any interposition of others.

Clarke: 2Sa 12:23 - -- I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me - It is not clear whether David by this expressed his faith in the immortality of the soul; going t...

I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me - It is not clear whether David by this expressed his faith in the immortality of the soul; going to him may only mean, I also shall die, and be gathered to my fathers, as he is. But whether David expressed this or not, we know that the thing is true; and it is one of the most solid grounds of consolation to surviving friends that they shall by and by be joined to them in a state of conscious existence. This doctrine has a very powerful tendency to alleviate the miseries of human life and reconcile us to the death of most beloved friends. And were we to admit the contrary, grief, in many cases, would wear out its subject before it wore out itself. Even the heathens derived consolation from the reflection that they should meet their friends in a state of conscious existence. And a saying in Cicero De Senectute, which he puts in the mouth of Cato of Utica, has been often quoted, and is universally admired: -

O praelarum diem, cum ad illud divinum animorum concilium coetumque proficiscar, cumque ex hac turba et colluvione discedam! Proficiscar enim non ad eos solum viros de quibus ante dixi; sed etiam ad Catonem meum quo nemo vir melior natus est, nemo pietate praestantior: cujus a me corpus crematum est; quod contra decuit ab illo meum. Animus vero non me deserens, sed respectans, in ea profecto loca discessit, quo mihi ipsi cernebat esse veniendum: quem ego meum catum fortiter ferre visus sum: non quod aequo animo ferrem: sed me ipse consolabar, existimans, non longinquum inter nos digressum et discessum fore . Cato Major, De Senectute, in fin

"O happy day, (says he), when I shall quit this impure and corrupt multitude, and join myself to that divine company and council of souls who have quitted the earth before me! There I shall find, not only those illustrious personages to whom I have spoken, but also my Cato, who I can say was one of the best men ever born, and whom none ever excelled in virtue and piety. I have placed his body on that funeral pyre whereon he ought to have laid mine. But his soul has not left me; and, without losing sight of me, he has only gone before into a country where he saw I should soon rejoin him. This my lot I seem to bear courageously; not indeed that I do bear it with resignation, but I shall comfort myself with the persuasion that the interval between his departure and mine will not be long.

And we well know who has taught us not to sorrow as those without hope for departed friends.

Defender: 2Sa 12:23 - -- David's infant son, dead before he was able to discern right from wrong, was safe in Christ, together with the departed spirits of all who had died in...

David's infant son, dead before he was able to discern right from wrong, was safe in Christ, together with the departed spirits of all who had died in true faith, resting in "Abraham's bosom" (Luk 16:22) and awaiting the coming of the promised Savior. David thus was confident he would be with his child in the ages to come, after the great resurrection day. He knew that he himself would "dwell in the house of the Lord forever" (Psa 23:6) and so would his infant son."

TSK: 2Sa 12:23 - -- I shall go : Gen 37:35; Job 30:23; Luk 23:43 he shall not : Job 7:8-10

I shall go : Gen 37:35; Job 30:23; Luk 23:43

he shall not : Job 7:8-10

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Commentary -- Word/Phrase Notes (per Verse)

Poole: 2Sa 12:23 - -- Wherefore should I fast seeing fasting and prayer cannot now prevail with God for his life? I shall go to him into the state of the dead, in which ...

Wherefore should I fast seeing fasting and prayer cannot now prevail with God for his life?

I shall go to him into the state of the dead, in which he is, and into heaven , where I doubt not I shall find him.

Haydock: 2Sa 12:23 - -- To me. No instance of any one being raised from the dead had yet occurred; though David did not disbelieve its possibility. (Menochius)

To me. No instance of any one being raised from the dead had yet occurred; though David did not disbelieve its possibility. (Menochius)

Gill: 2Sa 12:23 - -- But now he is dead, wherefore should I fast?.... And pray; it is to no purpose, no end can be thought to be answered by it: can I bring him back ag...

But now he is dead, wherefore should I fast?.... And pray; it is to no purpose, no end can be thought to be answered by it:

can I bring him back again? from the state of the dead, bring him to life by fasting, and praying, and weeping; that is not to e expected:

I shall go to him; to the state of the dead, to the grave, where his body was, or would be; to heaven and eternal happiness, where his soul was, as he comfortably hoped and believed: from whence it appears, that the Old Testament saints did not suppose an annihilation at death; but believed the immortality of the soul, a future state after death of eternal life and bliss:

but he shall not return to me; in the present mortal state, though at the resurrection they should meet again.

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Commentary -- Verse Notes / Footnotes

Geneva Bible: 2Sa 12:23 But now he is dead, wherefore should I fast? ( n ) can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me. ( n ) By this consid...

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Commentary -- Verse Range Notes

TSK Synopsis: 2Sa 12:1-31 - --1 Nathan's parable of the ewe lamb causes David to be his own judge.7 David, reproved by Nathan, confesses his sin, and is pardoned.15 David mourns an...

MHCC: 2Sa 12:15-25 - --David now penned the Psa 51:1, in which, though he had been assured that his sin was pardoned, he prays earnestly for pardon, and greatly laments his ...

Matthew Henry: 2Sa 12:15-25 - -- Nathan, having delivered his message, staid not at court, but went home, probably to pray for David, to whom he had been preaching. God, in making u...

Keil-Delitzsch: 2Sa 12:15-25 - -- David's Penitential Grief, and the Birth of Solomon. - 2Sa 12:15. The last-mentioned punishment was inflicted without delay. When Nathan had gone ho...

Constable: 2Sa 9:1--20:26 - --VI. DAVID'S TROUBLES chs. 9--20 Chapters 9-20 contrast with chapters 2-8 in that this later section is negative ...

Constable: 2Sa 10:1--12:31 - --B. God's Faithfulness despite David's Unfaithfulness chs. 10-12 These chapters form a sub-section within...

Constable: 2Sa 11:1--12:31 - --2. David's unfaithfulness to God chs. 11-12 These two chapters form a unit as is clear from thei...

Constable: 2Sa 12:15-25 - --The death of one child and the birth of another 12:15b-25 Why did God take the life of t...

Guzik: 2Sa 12:1-31 - --2 Samuel 12 - Nathan Confronts David A. Nathan's confrontation. 1. (1-4) Nathan's parable. Then the LORD sent Nathan to David. And he came to him,...

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Commentary -- Other

Critics Ask: 2Sa 12:23 2 SAMUEL 12:15-23 —How could a loving God take the life of David’s child because of the sin of David? PROBLEM: As a result of David’s sin w...

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Introduction / Outline

JFB: 2 Samuel (Book Introduction) THE FIRST AND SECOND BOOKS OF SAMUEL. The two were, by the ancient Jews, conjoined so as to make one book, and in that form could be called the Book o...

JFB: 2 Samuel (Outline) AN AMALEKITE BRINGS TIDINGS OF SAUL'S DEATH. (2Sa. 1:1-16) DAVID LAMENTS SAUL AND JONATHAN. (2Sa 1:17-27) DAVID, BY GOD'S DIRECTION, GOES UP TO HEBRO...

TSK: 2 Samuel 12 (Chapter Introduction) Overview 2Sa 12:1, Nathan’s parable of the ewe lamb causes David to be his own judge; 2Sa 12:7, David, reproved by Nathan, confesses his sin, an...

Poole: 2 Samuel 12 (Chapter Introduction) SAMUEL CHAPTER 12 Nathan by a parable reproveth and threateneth David, 2Sa 12:1-12 . He confesseth his sin, and is pardoned, but the child must die...

MHCC: 2 Samuel (Book Introduction) This book is the history of the reign of king David. It relates his victories, the growth of the prosperity of Israel, and his reformation of the stat...

MHCC: 2 Samuel 12 (Chapter Introduction) (2Sa 12:1-14) Nathan's parable-David confesses his sin. (2Sa 12:15-25) The birth of Solomon. (2Sa 12:26-31) David's severity to the Ammonites.

Matthew Henry: 2 Samuel (Book Introduction) An Exposition, with Practical Observations, of The Second Book of Samuel This book is the history of the reign of king David. We had in the foregoing ...

Matthew Henry: 2 Samuel 12 (Chapter Introduction) The foregoing chapter gave us the account of David's sin; this gives us the account of his repentance. Though he fell, he was not utterly cast down...

Constable: 2 Samuel (Book Introduction) Introduction Second Samuel continues the history begun in 1 Samuel. Please see my comments regarding 2 Samuel's title, d...

Constable: 2 Samuel (Outline) Outline (Continued from notes on 1 Samuel) V. David's triumphs chs. 1-8 ...

Constable: 2 Samuel 2 Samuel Bibliography Achtemeier, Paul J., and Elizabeth Achtemeier. The Old Testament Roots of Our Faith. Phil...

Haydock: 2 Samuel (Book Introduction) THE SECOND BOOK OF SAMUEL; otherwise called, THE SECOND BOOK OF KINGS. INTRODUCTION. This Book contains the transactions of David till the end ...

Gill: 2 Samuel (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO 2 SAMUEL This book, in many copies of the Hebrew Bible, is carried on without any new title put unto it; the reason of it is, becau...

Gill: 2 Samuel 12 (Chapter Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO SECOND SAMUEL 12 Nathan is sent to David to charge him with his sin, and convince him of it by a parable, 2Sa 12:1; which being acc...

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