![](images/minus.gif)
Text -- 2 Samuel 12:24-31 (NET)
![](images/arrow_open.gif)
![](images/advanced.gif)
![](images/advanced.gif)
![](images/advanced.gif)
Names, People and Places, Dictionary Themes and Topics
![](images/arrow_open.gif)
![](images/information.gif)
![](images/cmt_minus_head.gif)
collapse allCommentary -- Word/Phrase Notes (per phrase)
Wesley: 2Sa 12:24 - -- Who was now much dejected, both for her former sin, and for the loss of the child.
Who was now much dejected, both for her former sin, and for the loss of the child.
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Wesley: 2Sa 12:24 - -- That is, the Lord declared to David, that he loved his son, notwithstanding the just cause David had given to God to alienate his affections from him.
That is, the Lord declared to David, that he loved his son, notwithstanding the just cause David had given to God to alienate his affections from him.
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Wesley: 2Sa 12:25 - -- Either, because of the Lord's love to him, or because the Lord commanded him to do so.
Either, because of the Lord's love to him, or because the Lord commanded him to do so.
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Wesley: 2Sa 12:26 - -- That is, that part of the city where was the king's palace; though now it seems he was retired to a strong fort.
That is, that part of the city where was the king's palace; though now it seems he was retired to a strong fort.
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Rabbah was so called because it was encompassed with water.
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Wesley: 2Sa 12:28 - -- For having taken one part of the city, he concluded the remaining part of it could not long stand out.
For having taken one part of the city, he concluded the remaining part of it could not long stand out.
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Wesley: 2Sa 12:30 - -- Or rather, the price whereof, &c. For the same words both in Hebrew, Greek and Latin, are used, to signify either weight, or price. And the addition o...
Or rather, the price whereof, &c. For the same words both in Hebrew, Greek and Latin, are used, to signify either weight, or price. And the addition of precious stones, which are never valued by the weight of gold, makes this signification most probable. Moreover, the weight might seem too great either for the king of Ammon, or for David to wear it upon his head.
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Wesley: 2Sa 12:31 - -- The words are indefinite, and therefore not necessarily to be understood of all the people; but of the men of war, and especially of those who had bee...
The words are indefinite, and therefore not necessarily to be understood of all the people; but of the men of war, and especially of those who had been the chief actors of that villainous action against David's ambassadors, and of the dreadful war ensuing upon it; for which, they deserved severe punishments. Altho' indeed there seems to have been too much rigour used; especially, because these deaths were inflicted not only upon those counsellors, who were the only authors of that vile usage of the ambassadors; but upon some number of the people. And therefore it is probable, David exercised this cruelty whilst his heart was hardened, and impenitent; and when he was bereaved of that good spirit of God, which would have taught him more mercy.
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Wesley: 2Sa 12:31 - -- He sawed them to death of which punishment, we have examples both in scripture, and in other authors.
He sawed them to death of which punishment, we have examples both in scripture, and in other authors.
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Wesley: 2Sa 12:31 - -- kiln - Or, made them to pass through the furnace of Malchen: that is, of Moloch; punishing them with their own sin, and with the same kind of punishme...
kiln - Or, made them to pass through the furnace of Malchen: that is, of Moloch; punishing them with their own sin, and with the same kind of punishment which they had inflicted upon their own children.
JFB: 2Sa 12:24-25 - -- That is, "peaceable." But Nathan gave him the name of Jedediah, by command of God, or perhaps only as an expression of God's love. This love and the n...
That is, "peaceable." But Nathan gave him the name of Jedediah, by command of God, or perhaps only as an expression of God's love. This love and the noble gifts with which he was endowed, considering the criminality of the marriage from which he sprang, is a remarkable instance of divine goodness and grace.
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
JFB: 2Sa 12:26 - -- The time during which this siege lasted, since the intercourse with Bath-sheba, and the birth of at least one child, if not two, occurred during the p...
The time during which this siege lasted, since the intercourse with Bath-sheba, and the birth of at least one child, if not two, occurred during the progress of it, probably extended over two years.
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
JFB: 2Sa 12:27 - -- Rabbah, like Aroer, was divided into two parts--one the lower town, insulated by the winding course of the Jabbok, which flowed almost round it, and t...
Rabbah, like Aroer, was divided into two parts--one the lower town, insulated by the winding course of the Jabbok, which flowed almost round it, and the upper and stronger town, called the royal city. "The first was taken by Joab, but the honor of capturing so strongly a fortified place as the other was an honor reserved for the king himself."
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
JFB: 2Sa 12:28 - -- It has always been characteristic of Oriental despots to monopolize military honors; and as the ancient world knew nothing of the modern refinement of...
It has always been characteristic of Oriental despots to monopolize military honors; and as the ancient world knew nothing of the modern refinement of kings gaining victories by their generals, so Joab sent for David to command the final assault in person. A large force was levied for the purpose. David without much difficulty captured the royal city and obtained possession of its immense wealth.
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
JFB: 2Sa 12:28 - -- The circumstance of a city receiving a new name after some great person, as Alexandria, Constantinople, Hyderabad, is of frequent occurrence in the an...
The circumstance of a city receiving a new name after some great person, as Alexandria, Constantinople, Hyderabad, is of frequent occurrence in the ancient and modern history of the East.
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
JFB: 2Sa 12:30 - -- While the treasures of the city were given as plunder to his soldiers, David reserved to himself the crown, which was of rarest value. Its great weigh...
While the treasures of the city were given as plunder to his soldiers, David reserved to himself the crown, which was of rarest value. Its great weight makes it probable that it was like many ancient crowns, not worn, but suspended over the head, or fixed on a canopy on the top of the throne.
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
JFB: 2Sa 12:30 - -- Hebrew, "stone"; was a round ball composed of pearls and other jewels, which was in the crown, and probably taken out of it to be inserted in David's ...
Hebrew, "stone"; was a round ball composed of pearls and other jewels, which was in the crown, and probably taken out of it to be inserted in David's own crown.
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
JFB: 2Sa 12:31 - -- This excessive severity and employment of tortures, which the Hebrews on no other occasion are recorded to have practised, was an act of retributive j...
Clarke: 2Sa 12:24 - -- David comforted Bath-sheba - His extraordinary attachment to this beautiful woman was the cause of all his misfortunes
David comforted Bath-sheba - His extraordinary attachment to this beautiful woman was the cause of all his misfortunes
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Clarke: 2Sa 12:24 - -- He called his name Solomon - This name seems to have been given prophetically, for שלמה sholomah signifies peaceable, and there was almost un...
He called his name Solomon - This name seems to have been given prophetically, for
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Clarke: 2Sa 12:25 - -- Called - Jedidiah - ידידיה, literally, the beloved of the Lord. This is the first instance I remember of a minister of God being employed to ...
Called - Jedidiah -
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Clarke: 2Sa 12:26 - -- And took the royal city - How can this be, when Joab sent to David to come to take the city, in consequence of which David did come and take that ci...
And took the royal city - How can this be, when Joab sent to David to come to take the city, in consequence of which David did come and take that city? The explanation seems to be this: Rabbah was composed of a city and citadel; the former, in which was the king’ s residence, Joab had taken, and supposed he could soon render himself master of the latter, and therefore sends to David to come and take it, lest, he taking the whole, the city should be called after his name.
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Clarke: 2Sa 12:27 - -- And have taken the city of waters - The city where the tank or reservoir was that supplied the city and suburbs with water. Some think that the orig...
And have taken the city of waters - The city where the tank or reservoir was that supplied the city and suburbs with water. Some think that the original,
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Clarke: 2Sa 12:30 - -- The weight whereof was a talent of gold - If this talent was only seven pounds, as Whiston says, David might have carried it on his head with little...
The weight whereof was a talent of gold - If this talent was only seven pounds, as Whiston says, David might have carried it on his head with little difficulty; but this weight, according to common computation, would amount to more than one hundred pounds
If, however,
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Clarke: 2Sa 12:31 - -- He brought forth the people - And put them under saws. From this representation a great cry has been raised against "David’ s unparalleled, if ...
He brought forth the people - And put them under saws. From this representation a great cry has been raised against "David’ s unparalleled, if not diabolic, cruelty."I believe this interpretation was chiefly taken from the parallel place, 1Ch 20:3, where it is said, he cut them with saws, and with axes, etc. Instead of
It is surprising, and a thing to be deplored, that in this and similar cases our translators had not been more careful to sift the sense of the original words by which they would have avoided a profusion of exceptionable meanings with which they have clothed many passages of the sacred writings. Though I believe our translation to be by far the best in any language, ancient or modern, yet I am satisfied it stands much in need of revision. Most of the advantages which our unbelievers have appeared to have over certain passages of Scripture, have arisen from an inaccurate or false translation of the terms in the original; and an appeal to this has generally silenced the gainsayers. But in the time in which our translation was made, Biblical criticism was in its infancy, if indeed it did exist; and we may rather wonder that we find things so well, than be surprised that they are no better.
Defender: 2Sa 12:26 - -- Rabbah was the chief city of the Ammonites, and it is today the city of Amman, capital of Jordan, a city of almost a million people."
Rabbah was the chief city of the Ammonites, and it is today the city of Amman, capital of Jordan, a city of almost a million people."
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Defender: 2Sa 12:31 - -- "Pass through" should be read as "cross over to." This verse is not describing a cruel genocide of the Ammonites, for they continued as a distinct and...
"Pass through" should be read as "cross over to." This verse is not describing a cruel genocide of the Ammonites, for they continued as a distinct and relatively strong nation for at least several centuries after David. However, he did place them under forced hard labor, wielding saws and axes, working the kilns, etc. The parallel passage in 1Ch 20:3 should also be understood in this way, with the verb "cut" understood as "vanquished.""
TSK: 2Sa 12:24 - -- am 2971, bc 1033, An, Ex, Is, 458
she bare : 2Sa 7:12; 1Ch 3:5, 1Ch 22:9, 1Ch 22:10, 1Ch 28:5, 1Ch 28:6, 1Ch 29:1; Mat 1:6
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
TSK: 2Sa 12:25 - -- Nathan : 2Sa 12:1-14, 2Sa 7:4; 1Ki 1:11, 1Ki 1:23
Jedidiah : that is, Beloved of the Lord, Neh 13:26; Mat 3:17, Mat 17:5
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
TSK: 2Sa 12:26 - -- Joab : 2Sa 11:25; 1Ch 20:1
Rabbah : Rabbah, or Rabbath-Ammon, also called Philadelphia, from Ptolemy Philadelphus, king of Egypt, was situated east of...
Rabbah : Rabbah, or Rabbath-Ammon, also called Philadelphia, from Ptolemy Philadelphus, king of Egypt, was situated east of Jordan, and, according to Eusebius, ten miles east from Jazer. It is sometimes mentioned as belonging to Arabia, sometimes to Coelo-Syria; and was one of the cities of the Decapolis east of Jordan. Josephus extends the region of Perea as far as Philadelphia. It is now, says Burckhardt, called Amman, distant about 19 miles to the se by e of Szalt, and lies along the banks of a river called Moiet Amman, which has its source in a pond, at a few hundred paces from the south-western end of the town, and empties itself in the Zerka, or Jabbok, about four hours to the northward. This river runs in a valley bordered on both sides by barren hills of flint, which advance on the south side close to the edge of the stream. The edifices which still remain, though in a decaying state, from being built of a calcareous stone of moderate hardness, sufficiently attest the former greatness and splendour of this metropolis of the children of Ammon.
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
TSK: 2Sa 12:27 - -- Rabbah : 2Sa 11:1; Deu 3:11; Eze 21:20
the city of waters : Probably that part of the city situated near the pond, from which the rest received their ...
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
TSK: 2Sa 12:30 - -- took : 1Ch 20:2
the weight : If this talent was only seven pounds, as Whiston says, David might have carried it on his head with little difficulty; bu...
took : 1Ch 20:2
the weight : If this talent was only seven pounds, as Whiston says, David might have carried it on his head with little difficulty; but this weight, according to common computation, would amount to nearly 114 pounds! Some, therefore, think, that
in great abundance : Heb. very great
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
TSK: 2Sa 12:31 - -- and put them : Rather, as the particle ב frequently signifies, ""And he put them to saws, and to harrows, and to axes,""etc., as we say, to put a p...
![](images/cmt_minus_head.gif)
collapse allCommentary -- Word/Phrase Notes (per Verse)
Barnes: 2Sa 12:24 - -- Solomon - Or "peaceable,"a name given to him at his circumcision. Compare Luk 1:59. The giving of the name Jedidiah, by the Lord through Nathan...
Solomon - Or "peaceable,"a name given to him at his circumcision. Compare Luk 1:59. The giving of the name Jedidiah, by the Lord through Nathan, signified God’ s favor to the child, as in the cases of Abraham, Sarah, and Israel. The name Jedidiah (which contains the same root as the name David, namely, "to love") indicated, prophetically, what God’ s Providence brought about actually, namely, the succession and glorious reign of Solomon over Israel.
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Barnes: 2Sa 12:27 - -- The city of waters - The lower town of Rabbah (the modern Ammam), so called from a stream which rises within it and flows through it. The upper...
The city of waters - The lower town of Rabbah (the modern Ammam), so called from a stream which rises within it and flows through it. The upper town with the citadel lay on a hill to the north of the stream, and was probably not tenable for any length of time after the supply of water was cut off.
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Barnes: 2Sa 12:30 - -- Their king’ s crown - The word rendered their king (Malcham) is also the name of the national idol of the Ammonites (Jer 49:1, Jer 49:3 ma...
Their king’ s crown - The word rendered their king (Malcham) is also the name of the national idol of the Ammonites (Jer 49:1, Jer 49:3 margin; Amo 1:15; Zep 1:5). Moreover, the weight of the crown, which is calculated to be equal to 100 or 125 pounds weight, is far too great for a man to wear. On the whole, it seems most probable that the idol Malcam is here meant.
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Barnes: 2Sa 12:31 - -- For the saw as an implement of torture compare Heb 11:37. Harrows of iron - Or rather thrashing-machines (Isa 28:27; Isa 41:15, etc.). Ax...
For the saw as an implement of torture compare Heb 11:37.
Harrows of iron - Or rather thrashing-machines (Isa 28:27; Isa 41:15, etc.).
Axes - The word so rendered occurs only here and in 1Ch 20:3. It evidently means some cutting instrument.
Made them pass through the brick-kiln - The phrase is that always used of the cruel process of making their children pass through the fire to Moloch, and it is likely that David punished this idolatrous practice by inflicting something similar upon the worshippers of Moloch. The cruelty of these executions belongs to the barbarous manners of the age, and was provoked by the conduct of the Ammonites 2Sa 10:1-4; 1Sa 11:1-2, but is utterly indefensible under the light of the Gospel. If Rabbah was taken before David’ s penitence, he may have been in an unusually harsh and severe frame of mind. The unpleasant recollection of Uriah’ s death would be likely to sour and irritate him to the utmost.
Poole: 2Sa 12:24 - -- David comforted Bathsheba who was now much dejected, both for her former sin, which she truly repented of, as may be gathered from Pro 31:1-3 , &c., ...
David comforted Bathsheba who was now much dejected, both for her former sin, which she truly repented of, as may be gathered from Pro 31:1-3 , &c., and for the loss of that child which was very dear to her, and which might seem to be the only tie of David’ s affection to her; which being now dead, she might think that David would utterly cast her off, and leave her to that shame and punishment which she had deserved. Went in unto her, to wit, into her chamber or bed. The Lord loved him, i.e. the Lord declared to David that he loved his son, notwithstanding the just cause which David had given to God to alienate his affections from him.
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Poole: 2Sa 12:25 - -- Either because of the Lord’ s love to him, as the name signifies; or because the Lord commanded him to do so.
Either because of the Lord’ s love to him, as the name signifies; or because the Lord commanded him to do so.
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Poole: 2Sa 12:26 - -- i.e. That part of the city where was the king’ s palace, where he ordinarily resided; though now it seems he was retired to a strong fort.
i.e. That part of the city where was the king’ s palace, where he ordinarily resided; though now it seems he was retired to a strong fort.
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Poole: 2Sa 12:27 - -- The same royal city so called, because it either stood beside the river, or was encompassed with water, both for defence and delight. Although the w...
The same royal city so called, because it either stood beside the river, or was encompassed with water, both for defence and delight. Although the words are by some learned men rendered thus,
I have taken or intercepted , or cut off water from the city ; which well agrees, both with the words, eth being here put for meeth, which is frequent; as Gen 4:1 44:4 Exo 9:29 , &c.; and with the relation of Josephus the Jew, who saith, The conduits of water were cut off, and so the city was taken; and with a relation of Polybius concerning the same city, which was taken afterwards by Antiochus in the same manner, by cutting off water from the city.
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Poole: 2Sa 12:28 - -- Take it for having taken one part of the city, he concluded the remaining part of it could not long stand out.
Lest it be called after my name ; les...
Take it for having taken one part of the city, he concluded the remaining part of it could not long stand out.
Lest it be called after my name ; lest I have the honour of taking it. Thus he seeks to ingratiate himself with the king, by pretending great care for his honour and interest.
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Poole: 2Sa 12:29 - -- David, gathered all the people together either because Joab needed more help for the storming of the city; or, at least, for the prosecution of the v...
David, gathered all the people together either because Joab needed more help for the storming of the city; or, at least, for the prosecution of the victory, and execution of justice upon the whole land; or because he would have them all to partake of the spoil of the city, which was there in great abundances, 2Sa 12:30 ; the rather because they were all exposed to the hazard of utter ruin, in case the Ammonites had prevailed against them.
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Poole: 2Sa 12:30 - -- The weight whereof was a talent of gold or rather, the price whereof , &c. For as the Hebrew shekel signifies both a weight, and a piece of money ...
The weight whereof was a talent of gold or rather, the price whereof , &c. For as the Hebrew shekel signifies both a weight, and a piece of money of a certain price; so also may mishkal , as proceeding from the same root. And, in general, the same words both in Hebrew, Greek, and Latin are promiscuously used, to signify either weight or price, as is well known to the learned. And the addition of
precious stones which are never valued by the weight of gold, makes this signification here most proper and probable. Moreover, the weight might seem too great, either for the king of Ammon or for David, to wear it upon his head. Although, if this were meant of the weight, it might be said that this was not a crown to be worn ordinarily, but merely to be put on upon the king’ s head at his coronation, or upon solemn occasions, as here where this was done, in token of the translation of this kingdom to David; and, it may be, it was held up or supported by two officers of state, that it might not be too burdensome to him, and after a little while taken off.
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Poole: 2Sa 12:31 - -- The people that were therein: the words are indefinite, and therefore not necessarily to be understood of all the people; for it had been barbarous t...
The people that were therein: the words are indefinite, and therefore not necessarily to be understood of all the people; for it had been barbarous to use women and children thus; but of the men of war, and especially of those who had been the chief actors or abettors of that villainous action against David’ s ambassadors, (which was contrary to the law of nature, and of nations, and of all humanity,) and of the dreadful war ensuing upon it; for which they might seem to deserve the severest punishments. Although indeed there seems to have been too much rigour used; especially, because these dreadful deaths were inflicted not only upon those great counsellors, who were the only authors of that vile usage of the ambassadors; but upon a great number of the people, who were innocent from that crime. And therefore it is probably conceived that David exercised this cruelty whilst his heart was hardened and impenitent, and when he was bereaved of that free and good Spirit of God which would have taught him more mercy and moderation.
Put them under saws: he sawed them to death; of which punishment we have examples, both in Scripture, Heb 11:37 , and in other authors. Under harrows of iron, and under axes of iron he caused them to be laid down upon the ground, and torn by sharp iron harrows drawn over them, and hewed in pieces by keen axes. Made them pass through the brick-kiln i.e. to be burnt in brickkilns. Or, made them to pass through the furnace of Malchen , i.e. of Moloch , called also Milchom , and here Malchen ; punishing them with their own sin, and with the same kind of punishment which they inflicted upon their own children: see 2Ki 16:3 23:10 Lev 18:21 20:2 Deu 18:10 .
Haydock: 2Sa 12:24 - -- Wife. She had partaken in his affliction and repentance. The Jews say that David told her the divine oracle, which is mentioned [in] 3 Kings i. 13,...
Wife. She had partaken in his affliction and repentance. The Jews say that David told her the divine oracle, which is mentioned [in] 3 Kings i. 13, 17., that her next son should succeed to the throne. Salien (the year of the world 3000) supposes that he was conceived in May, two months after the death of Bethsabee's first-born, and came into the world about he time of the Passover. ---
Solomon, "the pacific." See 1 Paralipomenon xxii. 9. (Menochius)
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Haydock: 2Sa 12:25 - -- Amiable to the Lord. Or beloved of the Lord. In Hebrew, Yedideya. (Challoner) ---
Loved him, is not expressed in Hebrew, "because of the Lord....
Amiable to the Lord. Or beloved of the Lord. In Hebrew, Yedideya. (Challoner) ---
Loved him, is not expressed in Hebrew, "because of the Lord." (Haydock) ---
Theodotion, "in the word, or agreeably to, the order of the Lord." Solomon never went by the name which God here gives him, (Calmet) except in this place. (Menochius) ---
It shews the gratuitous predilection which God had for him; but affords no proof of his predestination to glory, of which there is too much reason to doubt. (Calmet)
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Haydock: 2Sa 12:28 - -- Take it. The higher, and more impregnable part; which honour Joab reserved for David.
Take it. The higher, and more impregnable part; which honour Joab reserved for David.
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Haydock: 2Sa 12:30 - -- King. Hebrew, Malcam, "their king." Moloc, "king," or the chief idol of the Ammonites. It was forbidden to use the ornaments of the idols on Cha...
King. Hebrew, Malcam, "their king." Moloc, "king," or the chief idol of the Ammonites. It was forbidden to use the ornaments of the idols on Chanaan, but not of other nations. This crown might be worth a talent, on account of the gold and precious stones; (1 Paralipomenon xx. 2.; Sanchez; Bochart,) or it might weigh so much as almost 87 pounds, (Calmet) or above 113 pounds English. (Haydock) ---
such immence crowns were sometimes suspended for ornament, over the throne; as Benjamin of Tudela says was done by the emperor Commenes. Pliny describes one of nine pounds; and Athenæus (v. 8,) another of 80 cubits, or 40 yards (Haydock) in circumference. (Calmet) ---
The idol, or the king of Ammon, (Menochius) might have one of the like nature, suspended. The Rabbins say David caused it to hand in the air by means of a load-stone; as if it would attract gold! (Calmet)
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Haydock: 2Sa 12:31 - -- Sawed. Hebrew, "he put them under saws, and under rollers of iron, and under knives," &c. (Haydock) ---
The Jews say that Isaias was killed by b...
Sawed. Hebrew, "he put them under saws, and under rollers of iron, and under knives," &c. (Haydock) ---
The Jews say that Isaias was killed by being sawed asunder; to which punishment St. Paul alludes, Hebrews xi. 37. (Menochius) ---
Brick-kilns, or furnaces, Psalm xx. 10. (Muis) ---
David and his companions were thrown into the fiery furnace, Daniel iii. 6, 11., and Esther xiii. 7. (Calmet) ---
Some condemn David of excessive cruelty on this occasion. (Tirinus; Sanctius) ---
But the Scripture represents his conduct as irreproachable, except in the affair of Urias; (3 Kings xv. 5,) and at this distance of time, we know not the motives which might have actuated him to treat his enemy with such severity. The Ammonites had probably exercised similar cruelties on his subjects. See 1 Kings xi. 2., and Amos i. 13. (Calmet) ---
They had shamefully violated the law of nations, and had stirred up various kings against David. (Menochius) ---
Salien blames Joab for what may seem too cruel. But, though he was barbarous and vindictive, we need not condemn him on this occasion, no more than his master; as we are not to judge of former times by our own manners. (Haydock) ---
War was then carried on with great cruelty. (Calmet)
Gill: 2Sa 12:24 - -- And David comforted Bathsheba his wife,.... Which is the first time she is so called, Uriah being dead, and David having married her; which though at ...
And David comforted Bathsheba his wife,.... Which is the first time she is so called, Uriah being dead, and David having married her; which though at first displeasing to the Lord, because the circumstances attending it, was afterwards confirmed by him. Bathsheba no doubt was very much distressed, and greatly disconsolate, on account of the sin she had committed, and because of the wrath and displeasure of God, and because of the death of the child, which was a token of it; and she might have some scruples in her mind whether it was lawful to continue cohabiting with David. Now David comforted her, by telling her that God had pardoned that iniquity they had been guilty of, and that he would give them another son, who should succeed him in the throne, and build an house for his name:
and went in unto her, and lay with her, as his wife:
and she bare a son; at the proper time:
and he called his name Solomon; either the Lord called him so, or David by his direction; for this name was given before his birth, 1Ch 22:9; the Keri or marginal reading is, "and she called his name", &c. that is, Bathsheba, who had been informed by David that this was the name the Lord would have him called by, which signifies "peaceable"; and the birth of this son was a confirmation of the peace and reconciliation between God and them, and which his name carried in it; as well as pointed to the peaceable times that should be during his reign, and in which be was a type of Christ, the Prince; of peace; who is the author of peace between God and men by the blood of his cross, and from whom spiritual peace flows, and by whom eternal peace and happiness is:
and the Lord loved him; and was to him a father, and he to him a son, as was promised, 2Sa 7:14. This love and affection of the Lord to Solomon was signified to David by Nathan, as follows.
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Gill: 2Sa 12:25 - -- And he sent by the hand of Nathan the prophet,.... Either David did; he sent by him to Bathsheba, to acquaint her with the name of the child, that it ...
And he sent by the hand of Nathan the prophet,.... Either David did; he sent by him to Bathsheba, to acquaint her with the name of the child, that it was to be Solomon; which is not so likely: or "he, David, delivered it into the hand of Nathan the prophet"; to educate it, instruct it, and bring it up in the nurture of the Lord; or rather the Lord sent a message by Nathan the prophet to David, that he loved Solomon:
and he called his name Jedidiah, because of the Lord: that is, David also called him by this name, because of the love of the Lord unto him; for Jedidiah signifies "the beloved of the Lord"; a name and character which well agrees with the Messiah, Solomon's antitype, Mat 3:17.
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Gill: 2Sa 12:26 - -- And Joab fought against Rabbah of the children of Ammon,.... Of his being sent against it, and of his besieging it, we read in 2Sa 11:1; but it can ha...
And Joab fought against Rabbah of the children of Ammon,.... Of his being sent against it, and of his besieging it, we read in 2Sa 11:1; but it can hardly be thought that he had been so long besieging it, as that David had two children by Bathsheba; but the account of the finishing of it is placed here, that the story concerning Bathsheba might lie together without any interruption:
and took the royal city; or that part of it in which the king's palace was, and which, as Abarbinel observes, was without the city, as the palaces of kings now usually are.
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Gill: 2Sa 12:27 - -- And Joab sent messengers to David,.... To acquaint him how he had proceeded, and what success he had had:
and said, I have fought against Rabbah; l...
And Joab sent messengers to David,.... To acquaint him how he had proceeded, and what success he had had:
and said, I have fought against Rabbah; laid siege to it, and skirmished with parties that sallied out upon them:
and have taken the city of waters; the same with the royal city, and so the Targum here renders it; so called because situated by the waterside; Adrichomius says x the river Jabbok flowed round about it: or it abounded with fountains of water, from whence the other part of the city, or what was properly the city Rabbah, was supplied with water; and which communication being cut off, it could not hold out long, which Joab being sensible of, therefore sent for David. Junius and Tremellius render the words, "I have intercepted the water from the city"; with which the account of Josephus y agrees, who says, that he cut off the water from them, and precluded other supplies, so that they were in great distress for want of food and drink; and in like manner it was taken by Antiochus some hundreds of years later; for that; historian says z the siege by him lasted long, and they could not prevail, because of the multitude of men it, until one of the prisoners showed them a subterraneous passage, through which they came and fetched water; which they stopped up with stones and such like things, and then through want of water yielded.
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Gill: 2Sa 12:28 - -- Now therefore gather the rest of the people together,.... The rest of the soldiers in the land of Israel, and come to Rabbah:
and encamp against th...
Now therefore gather the rest of the people together,.... The rest of the soldiers in the land of Israel, and come to Rabbah:
and encamp against the city; invest it in form:
and take it; upon a surrender or by storm; for it could not hold out long:
lest I take the city, and it be called after my name; so great a regard had Joab, though an ambitious man, to the fame and credit of David his king: so Craterus a at the siege of Artacacna, being prepared to take it, waited the coming of Alexander, that he might have the honour of it.
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Gill: 2Sa 12:29 - -- And David gathered all the people together,.... The soldiers that were with him, or near him; which was done partly to recruit Joab's troops, who, by ...
And David gathered all the people together,.... The soldiers that were with him, or near him; which was done partly to recruit Joab's troops, who, by the continuance of the siege, and the sallies of the enemy on them, might be greatly diminished; and partly to make conquests of other cities of the Ammonites, and to carry off the spoil of them:
and went to Rabbah; which must be after the death of Uriah, and very probably during the time of Bathsheba's mourning for him:
and fought against it, and took it; by assault.
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Gill: 2Sa 12:30 - -- And he took their king's crown from off his head,.... The crown of Hanun the king of the Ammonites, who now fell into his hands, and whom he stripped ...
And he took their king's crown from off his head,.... The crown of Hanun the king of the Ammonites, who now fell into his hands, and whom he stripped of his ensigns of royalty, who had so shamefully abused his ambassadors, 2Sa 10:4,
(the weight whereof was a talent of gold with the precious stones): or, "and a precious stone"; there might be more, as our version suggests, but there was one in it remarkably large and valuable; Josephus b says it had in it a very precious stone, a sardonyx; and this, according to the Talmud c was of the value of a talent of gold. A talent was equal to three thousand shekels, as appears from Exo 38:25; and was in value, according to Brerewood d of our money, 4500 pounds; but according to Bishop Cumberland e 5067 pounds, three shillings and ten pence. This crown was of the same value with the golden candlestick in the tabernacle, Exo 25:39; and some think that value here is meant, and not the weight, a talent of gold being very heavy; according to Bishop Cumberland f, ninety three and three quarter pounds; some say an hundred thirteen pounds ten ounces, and more; too great a weight to be borne on the head by Hanun or David; but, what with the gold and precious stones about it, it might be equal in value to a talent of gold; but weight is expressly mentioned, and the crowns of the eastern princes were of great bulk and weight, as well as value: Athenaeus g makes mention of one made of ten thousand pieces of gold, placed on the throne of King Ptolemy, and of some of two cubits, of six, yea, of sixteen cubits. Some h are of opinion that this crown was not the crown of the king of Ammon, but of Milcom or Molech, their idol, and that the proper name should be retained in the version, and that David had a crown made of it he could bear; but if, as others i, the Syriac talent is meant, which was but the fourth part of an Hebrew one, the difficulty is greatly lessened; for it seems to be the same crown David afterwards wore, as follows:
and it was set on David's head; to show that the kingdom was translated to him, or was become subject to him; as Alexander, on the conquest of Darius, put the Persian diadem on his own head k, in token of that monarchy being translated to him: though, after all, the phrase, "from off", may be rendered "from above" or "over" l his head, and so it was set "above" or "over" the head of David, being supported by some means or other, that its weight did not bear thereon however, Paschalius, who wrote a learned work, "De Coronis", must be mistaken when be says m this seems to be the first use of a crown in the kingdom of Judah, there being no mention of a crown before, either of Saul or David, only of anointing; since express mention is made of Saul's crown, 2Sa 1:10; though his observation may be just, that this crown, allowed to be worn by David, was a pledge of the renewal of his royal dignity, and of his acceptance with God upon his repentance for his above sins:
and he brought forth the spoil of the city in great abundance; which, or at least part of it, was dedicated to the building of the sanctuary, 2Sa 8:11.
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Gill: 2Sa 12:31 - -- And he brought forth the people that were therein,.... Not all the inhabitants of the place, but the princes of the children of Ammon, the counsellor...
And he brought forth the people that were therein,.... Not all the inhabitants of the place, but the princes of the children of Ammon, the counsellors of Hattun, who advised him to use David's ambassadors in so shameful a manner, and others that expressed their pleasure and satisfaction in it:
and put them under saws, and under harrows of iron, and under axes of iron; whereby they were cut asunder, as some were by the Romans and others n, or their flesh torn to pieces, and they put to extreme pain and agony, and so died most miserably; see 1Ch 20:3,
and made them pass through the brickkiln; where they burnt their bricks, by which they were not only scorched and blistered, but burnt to death; so the word in the "Keri", or margin, signifies, which we follow; but in the text it is, they caused them to pass through Malcem, the same with Milcom or Molech, the abomination of the children of Ammon, 1Ki 11:5; unto which they made their children pass through the fire, and burnt them; and now in the same place they themselves are made to pass through, and be burnt, as a righteous punishment of them for their barbarous and wicked idolatry. The word used in the Greek version, according to Suidas o, signifies an army, or a battalion of men drawn up in a quadrangular form, like a brick; and in the same sense Josephus p uses it; hence a learned man q conjectures that David's army was drawn up in the like form, through which the Ammonites were obliged to pass, and as they passed were assailed with darts, and killed; a like punishment to which is what the Italians call "passing through the pikes":
and thus did he unto all the cities of the children of Ammon; to the inhabitants of them; that is, the chief, who bad expressed their joy at the ill usage of his ambassadors: this he did to strike terror into other nations, that they might fear to use his ambassadors in such like manner. This action of David's showing so much severity, is thought by most to be done when under the power of his lust with Bathsheba, in an hardened and impenitent state, when he had no sense of mercy himself, and so showed none; which is too injurious to his character; for this was a righteous retaliation of this cruel people, 1Sa 11:2. Which may be observed in other instances, Jdg 8:6; but the charge of cruelty in David will be easily removed by following the translation of a learned r man, and which I think the words will bear, "and he obliged the people that were in it to go out, and put them to the saw", to cut stones; "and to the iron mines", to dig there; "and to the axes of iron", to cut wood, with; "after he had made them to pass with their king" out of the city.
So David and all the people returned unto Jerusalem; in triumph, and with great spoil.
![](images/cmt_minus_head.gif)
expand allCommentary -- Verse Notes / Footnotes
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
NET Notes: 2Sa 12:26 Here the narrative resumes the battle story that began in 11:1 (see 11:25). The author has interrupted that story to give the related account of David...
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
NET Notes: 2Sa 12:27 The expression translated the water supply of the city (Heb “the city of the waters”) apparently refers to that part of the fortified city...
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
NET Notes: 2Sa 12:30 Heb “and its weight [was] a talent of gold.” The weight of this ornamental crown was approximately 75 lbs (34 kg). See P. K. McCarter, II ...
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
NET Notes: 2Sa 12:31 For location see Map5 B1; Map6 F3; Map7 E2; Map8 F2; Map10 B3; JP1 F4; JP2 F4; JP3 F4; JP4 F4.
Geneva Bible: 2Sa 12:24 And David comforted Bathsheba his wife, and went in unto her, and lay with her: and she bare a son, and ( o ) he called his name Solomon: and the LORD...
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Geneva Bible: 2Sa 12:25 And he sent by the hand of Nathan the ( p ) prophet; and ( q ) he called his name Jedidiah, because of the LORD.
( p ) To call him Solomon.
( q ) Me...
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Geneva Bible: 2Sa 12:27 And Joab sent messengers to David, and said, I have fought against Rabbah, and have taken the city of ( r ) waters.
( r ) That is, the chief city and...
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Geneva Bible: 2Sa 12:30 And he took their king's crown from off his head, the weight whereof [was] a ( s ) talent of gold with the precious stones: and it was [set] on David'...
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Geneva Bible: 2Sa 12:31 And he brought forth the people that [were] therein, and put [them] under ( t ) saws, and under harrows of iron, and under axes of iron, and made them...
![](images/cmt_minus_head.gif)
expand allCommentary -- Verse Range Notes
TSK Synopsis -> 2Sa 12:1-31
TSK Synopsis: 2Sa 12:1-31 - --1 Nathan's parable of the ewe lamb causes David to be his own judge.7 David, reproved by Nathan, confesses his sin, and is pardoned.15 David mourns an...
MHCC -> 2Sa 12:15-25; 2Sa 12:26-31
MHCC: 2Sa 12:15-25 - --David now penned the Psa 51:1, in which, though he had been assured that his sin was pardoned, he prays earnestly for pardon, and greatly laments his ...
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
MHCC: 2Sa 12:26-31 - --To be thus severe in putting the children of Ammon to slavery was a sign that David's heart was not yet made soft by repentance, at the time when this...
Matthew Henry -> 2Sa 12:15-25; 2Sa 12:26-31
Matthew Henry: 2Sa 12:15-25 - -- Nathan, having delivered his message, staid not at court, but went home, probably to pray for David, to whom he had been preaching. God, in making u...
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Matthew Henry: 2Sa 12:26-31 - -- We have here an account of the conquest of Rabbah, and other cities of the Ammonites. Though this comes in here after the birth of David's child, ye...
Keil-Delitzsch: 2Sa 12:15-25 - --
David's Penitential Grief, and the Birth of Solomon. - 2Sa 12:15. The last-mentioned punishment was inflicted without delay. When Nathan had gone ho...
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Keil-Delitzsch: 2Sa 12:26-28 - --
Conquest of Rabbah, and Punishment of the Ammonites (comp. 1Ch 20:1-3). - "Joab fought against Rabbah of the children of Ammon, and took the king's...
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Keil-Delitzsch: 2Sa 12:29 - --
Accordingly David "gathered together all the people," - i.e., all the men of war who had remained behind in the land; from which we may see that Jo...
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Keil-Delitzsch: 2Sa 12:30 - --
He then took their king's crown ( "their king," viz., the king of the Ammonites) from off his (the king's) head; so that he had either been taken pr...
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Keil-Delitzsch: 2Sa 12:31 - --
He also had the inhabitants executed, and that with cruel tortures. "He sawed them in pieces with the saw and with iron harrows." בּמּגרה ו...
Constable: 2Sa 9:1--20:26 - --VI. DAVID'S TROUBLES chs. 9--20
Chapters 9-20 contrast with chapters 2-8 in that this later section is negative ...
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Constable: 2Sa 10:1--12:31 - --B. God's Faithfulness despite David's Unfaithfulness chs. 10-12
These chapters form a sub-section within...
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Constable: 2Sa 11:1--12:31 - --2. David's unfaithfulness to God chs. 11-12
These two chapters form a unit as is clear from thei...
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)
Constable: 2Sa 12:15-25 - --The death of one child and the birth of another 12:15b-25
Why did God take the life of t...
![](images/cmt_minus.gif)