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Text -- 2 Samuel 17:17 (NET)

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17:17 Now Jonathan and Ahimaaz were staying in En Rogel. A female servant would go and inform them, and they would then go and inform King David. It was not advisable for them to be seen going into the city.
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Names, People and Places, Dictionary Themes and Topics

Names, People and Places:
 · Ahimaaz father of Ahinoam the wife of Saul,a chief priest; son of Zadok I,son-in-law and food collection officer (Naphtali) of Solomon
 · David a son of Jesse of Judah; king of Israel,son of Jesse of Judah; king of Israel
 · En-rogel a spring on the boarder of Judah and Benjamin
 · En-Rogel a spring on the boarder of Judah and Benjamin
 · Jonathan a man who was a descendant of Gershom son of Moses,son of Saul of Benjamin,son of the high priest Abiathar in David's time,the son of Shime-i, David's brother,son of Shammah/Shagee; one of David's military elite,son of Jada of Judah,son of Uzziah; overseer of the country treasuries for King David,a man who was uncle and counselor of King David,father of Ebed who accompanied Ezra leading the clan of Adin back from exile,a man who opposed Ezra's reforms; son of Asahel,a chief priest; son of Joiada,priest and head of the house of Malluchi under High Priest Joiakim in the time of Nehemiah,son of Shemaiah of Asaph of Levi; father of Zechariah,a man who was secretary and dungeon keeper for King Zedekiah; son of Kareah


Dictionary Themes and Topics: Zadok | WENCH | TALE | SAMUEL, BOOKS OF | Prayer | Lies and Deceits | Jonathan | JONATHAN (1) | JOAB | Israel | Hushai | HINNOM, VALLEY OF | Friendship | FOUNTAIN | En-rogel | Chronicles, Books of | Ahithophel | Ahimaaz | Absalom | Abiathar | more
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Word/Phrase Notes
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Word/Phrase Notes
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TSK Synopsis , MHCC , Matthew Henry , Keil-Delitzsch , Constable , Guzik

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Commentary -- Word/Phrase Notes (per phrase)

Wesley: 2Sa 17:17 - -- Or, the fullers well. A place near Jerusalem, Jos 15:7, Jos 18:16.

Or, the fullers well. A place near Jerusalem, Jos 15:7, Jos 18:16.

Wesley: 2Sa 17:17 - -- Pretending to go thither to wash some cloaths, or to draw water.

Pretending to go thither to wash some cloaths, or to draw water.

JFB: 2Sa 17:17 - -- The fuller's well in the neighborhood of Jerusalem, below the junction of the valley of Hinnom with that of Jehoshaphat.

The fuller's well in the neighborhood of Jerusalem, below the junction of the valley of Hinnom with that of Jehoshaphat.

Clarke: 2Sa 17:17 - -- En-rogel - The fullers’ well; the place where they were accustomed to tread the clothes with their feet; hence the name עין ein , a well, ...

En-rogel - The fullers’ well; the place where they were accustomed to tread the clothes with their feet; hence the name עין ein , a well, and רגל regel , the foot, because of the treading above mentioned

Clarke: 2Sa 17:17 - -- And a wench went and told them - The word wench occurs nowhere else in the Holy Scriptures: and, indeed, has no business here; as the Hebrew word ×...

And a wench went and told them - The word wench occurs nowhere else in the Holy Scriptures: and, indeed, has no business here; as the Hebrew word שפחה shiphchah , should have been translated girl, maid, maid-servant. The word either comes from the Anglo-Saxon, a maid, or the Belgic wunch, desire, a thing wished for: multum enim ut plurimum Puellae a Juvenibus desiderantur, seu appetuntur . So Minsheu. Junius seems more willing to derive it from wince, to frisk, to be skittish, etc., for reasons sufficiently obvious, and which he gives at length. After all, it may as likely come from the Gothic wens or weins, a word frequently used in the gospels of the Codex Argenteus for wife. Coverdale’ s Bible, 1535, has damsell. Becke’ s Bible, 1549, has wenche. The same in Cardmarden’ s Bible, 1566; but it is maid in Barker’ s Bible, 1615. Wench is more of a Scotticism than maid or damsel; and King James probably restored it, as he is said to have done lad in Gen 21:12, and elsewhere. In every other place where the word occurs, our translators render it handmaid, bondmaid, maiden, womanservant, maidservant, and servant. Such is the latitude with which they translate the same Hebrew term in almost innumerable instances.

TSK: 2Sa 17:17 - -- Jonathan : 2Sa 15:27, 2Sa 15:36 stayed : Josh. 2:4-24 Enrogel : Jos 15:7, Jos 18:16; 1Ki 1:9

Jonathan : 2Sa 15:27, 2Sa 15:36

stayed : Josh. 2:4-24

Enrogel : Jos 15:7, Jos 18:16; 1Ki 1:9

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Commentary -- Word/Phrase Notes (per Verse)

Barnes: 2Sa 17:17 - -- En-rogel - See the marginal reference. A wench - Hebrew "the maid servant,"namely, of the high priest, either Zadok or Abiathar, or possi...

En-rogel - See the marginal reference.

A wench - Hebrew "the maid servant,"namely, of the high priest, either Zadok or Abiathar, or possibly one employed in some service in the temple courts. (1Sa 2:22 note.)

And they went and told king David - As related afterward 2Sa 17:21. Here mentioned by anticipation.

Poole: 2Sa 17:17 - -- En-rogel or, the fuller’ s well ; a place near Jerusalem, Jos 15:7 18:16 . A wench went and told them pretending to go thither to wash some c...

En-rogel or, the fuller’ s well ; a place near Jerusalem, Jos 15:7 18:16 .

A wench went and told them pretending to go thither to wash some clothes,

Haydock: 2Sa 17:17 - -- Robel, near Jerusalem, on the east. (Menochius) --- Maid, under the pretence of washing linen. (St. Jerome, Trad.)

Robel, near Jerusalem, on the east. (Menochius) ---

Maid, under the pretence of washing linen. (St. Jerome, Trad.)

Gill: 2Sa 17:17 - -- Now Jonathan and Ahimaaz stayed by Enrogel,.... Who were the sons of the priests; these did not go into the city of Jerusalem with their parents, when...

Now Jonathan and Ahimaaz stayed by Enrogel,.... Who were the sons of the priests; these did not go into the city of Jerusalem with their parents, when they were sent back by David, 2Sa 15:27; but stayed by their direction at this place, which was near Jerusalem, and is called in the Targum the fuller's fountain, where they washed their clothes; and, as Kimchi and Jarchi say, by treading them with their feet, whence it had the name of Rogel, of which See Gill on Jos 15:7,

(for they might not be seen to come into the city); having been charged by their parents to continue there for the sake of carrying intelligence to David, or because suspected by Absalom's party of carrying on such an intrigue:

and a wench went and told them: what Hushai had communicated to the priests, and what was his advice to David; this girl is supposed by Kimchi and Abarbinel to be of the family of Zadok, by whom she was sufficiently instructed to tell her message, and of whom there would be no suspicion:

and they went and told King David; the sons of the priests went and related to him all that had been transmitted to them.

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Commentary -- Verse Notes / Footnotes

Geneva Bible: 2Sa 17:17 Now Jonathan and Ahimaaz stayed by Enrogel; for they might not be seen to come into the city: and a wench went and told ( g ) them; and they went and ...

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Commentary -- Verse Range Notes

TSK Synopsis: 2Sa 17:1-29 - --1 Ahithophel's counsel is overthrown by Hushai's, according to God's appointment.15 Secret intelligence is sent unto David.23 Ahithophel hangs himself...

MHCC: 2Sa 17:1-21 - --Here was a wonderful effect of Divine Providence blinding Absalom's mind and influencing his heart, that he could not rest in Ahithophel's counsel, an...

Matthew Henry: 2Sa 17:15-21 - -- We must now leave David's enemies pleasing themselves with the thoughts of a sure victory by following Hushai's counsel, and sending a summons, no d...

Keil-Delitzsch: 2Sa 17:17 - -- "Jonathan and Ahimaaz (the sons of the priests: 2Sa 15:27) stood at the Rogel spring (the present well of Job or Nehemiah, at the south-east corner...

Constable: 2Sa 9:1--20:26 - --VI. DAVID'S TROUBLES chs. 9--20 Chapters 9-20 contrast with chapters 2-8 in that this later section is negative ...

Constable: 2Sa 13:1--20:26 - --C. David's Rejection and Return chs. 13-20 This is the longest literary section in the Court History of ...

Constable: 2Sa 15:1--20:26 - --2. Absalom's attempt to usurp David's throne chs. 15-20 Absalom was never Yahweh's choice to suc...

Constable: 2Sa 16:15--18:1 - --The counsel of Ahithophel and Hushai 16:15-17:29 This is the central unit of chapters 5-...

Guzik: 2Sa 17:1-29 - --2 Samuel 17 - Absalom Decides His Direction A. The advice of Ahithophel and of Hushai. 1. (1-4) The counsel of Ahithophel. Moreover Ahithophel sai...

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Introduction / Outline

JFB: 2 Samuel (Book Introduction) THE FIRST AND SECOND BOOKS OF SAMUEL. The two were, by the ancient Jews, conjoined so as to make one book, and in that form could be called the Book o...

JFB: 2 Samuel (Outline) AN AMALEKITE BRINGS TIDINGS OF SAUL'S DEATH. (2Sa. 1:1-16) DAVID LAMENTS SAUL AND JONATHAN. (2Sa 1:17-27) DAVID, BY GOD'S DIRECTION, GOES UP TO HEBRO...

TSK: 2 Samuel 17 (Chapter Introduction) Overview 2Sa 17:1, Ahithophel’s counsel is overthrown by Hushai’s, according to God’s appointment; 2Sa 17:15, Secret intelligence is sent un...

Poole: 2 Samuel 17 (Chapter Introduction) SAMUEL CHAPTER 17 Hushai, David’ s friend, being, by David’ s order, gone over to Absalom, by God’ s appointment overthroweth Ahitho...

MHCC: 2 Samuel (Book Introduction) This book is the history of the reign of king David. It relates his victories, the growth of the prosperity of Israel, and his reformation of the stat...

MHCC: 2 Samuel 17 (Chapter Introduction) (v. 1-21) Ahithophel's counsel overthrown. (2Sa 17:22-29) He hangs himself, Absalom pursues David.

Matthew Henry: 2 Samuel (Book Introduction) An Exposition, with Practical Observations, of The Second Book of Samuel This book is the history of the reign of king David. We had in the foregoing ...

Matthew Henry: 2 Samuel 17 (Chapter Introduction) The contest between David and Absalom is now hasting towards a crisis. It must be determined by the sword, and preparation is made accordingly in t...

Constable: 2 Samuel (Book Introduction) Introduction Second Samuel continues the history begun in 1 Samuel. Please see my comments regarding 2 Samuel's title, d...

Constable: 2 Samuel (Outline) Outline (Continued from notes on 1 Samuel) V. David's triumphs chs. 1-8 ...

Constable: 2 Samuel 2 Samuel Bibliography Achtemeier, Paul J., and Elizabeth Achtemeier. The Old Testament Roots of Our Faith. Phil...

Haydock: 2 Samuel (Book Introduction) THE SECOND BOOK OF SAMUEL; otherwise called, THE SECOND BOOK OF KINGS. INTRODUCTION. This Book contains the transactions of David till the end ...

Gill: 2 Samuel (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO 2 SAMUEL This book, in many copies of the Hebrew Bible, is carried on without any new title put unto it; the reason of it is, becau...

Gill: 2 Samuel 17 (Chapter Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO SECOND SAMUEL 17 This chapter relates the advice Ahithophel gave to march out speedily with a number of men in pursuit of David, wh...

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