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Text -- 2 Samuel 17:9 (NET)

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17:9 At this very moment he is hiding out in one of the caves or in some other similar place. If it should turn out that he attacks our troops first, whoever hears about it will say, ‘Absalom’s army has been slaughtered!’
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 · Absalom the son of David and Maacah


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Commentary -- Word/Phrase Notes (per phrase)

Wesley: 2Sa 17:9 - -- Having been often accustomed to that course, and well acquainted with in all hiding - places from Saul's time. In one of them, unknown to us, he will ...

Having been often accustomed to that course, and well acquainted with in all hiding - places from Saul's time. In one of them, unknown to us, he will lurk with some of his chosen men, and lie in ambush for us; and, when they see a fit opportunity, they will suddenly come forth and surprize some of our men, when they least expect it, and probably at first put them to flight.

Wesley: 2Sa 17:9 - -- Namely, of Absalom's men sent against David.

Namely, of Absalom's men sent against David.

Wesley: 2Sa 17:9 - -- Implying, that their good success at first would mightily animate David's men to proceed vigorously in the fight, and intimidate Absalom's army, and c...

Implying, that their good success at first would mightily animate David's men to proceed vigorously in the fight, and intimidate Absalom's army, and consequently would be both a presage and an occasion of their total defeat.

TSK: 2Sa 17:9 - -- he is hid : Jdg 20:33; 1Sa 22:1, 1Sa 24:3 some : Jos 7:5, Jos 8:6; Jdg 20:32; 1Sa 14:14, 1Sa 14:15 over thrown : Heb. fallen

he is hid : Jdg 20:33; 1Sa 22:1, 1Sa 24:3

some : Jos 7:5, Jos 8:6; Jdg 20:32; 1Sa 14:14, 1Sa 14:15

over thrown : Heb. fallen

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Commentary -- Word/Phrase Notes (per Verse)

Barnes: 2Sa 17:9 - -- Some pit, or in some other place - The Hebrew has "in one of the pits,"or "in one of the places."Hence, "place"must have some defined meaning. ...

Some pit, or in some other place - The Hebrew has "in one of the pits,"or "in one of the places."Hence, "place"must have some defined meaning. It probably is used here, as elsewhere, for a "dwelling-house"or "village,"which might in that district be fortified houses 2Sa 17:12; 1Sa 26:25.

Hushai’ s argument is that there was no chance of seizing David by surprise as Ahithophel suggested. There was sure to be sharp fighting, and the terror of the names of David, Joab, Abishai, Ittai, and their companions, would magnify the first few blows received into a victory, and Absalom’ s men would flee in panic. It is likely that Absalom was not a man of courage, and Hushai, knowing this, adroitly magnified the terror of the warlike prowess of David and his mighty men.

Poole: 2Sa 17:9 - -- He is hid now in some pit, or in some other place having been oft accustomed to that course, and well acquainted with all hidingplaces from Saul̵...

He is hid now in some pit, or in some other place having been oft accustomed to that course, and well acquainted with all hidingplaces from Saul’ s time. In one of them, unknown to us, he will lurk with some of his chosen men, and lie in ambush for us; and when they see a fit opportunity, they will suddenly come forth and surprise some of our men when they least expect it, and fall upon them with great fury, and probably will at first put them to flight.

Some of them to wit, of Absalom’ s men sent against David.

Overthrown at the first implying that their good success at first would mightily animate David’ s men to proceed vigorously in the fight, and intimidate Absalom’ s army, and consequently would be both a presage and an occasion of their total defeat.

Whosoever heareth it will say they who first hear these ill tidings will propagate it, and strike terror with it into the rest of the army.

Haydock: 2Sa 17:9 - -- First. Hebrew, "If they attack them at first." (Calmet) --- Report will easily represent the engagement as unfavourable to Absalom; and this will ...

First. Hebrew, "If they attack them at first." (Calmet) ---

Report will easily represent the engagement as unfavourable to Absalom; and this will be readily believed, as all are convinced of David's valour. (Haydock) ---

Nothing ought to be risked in such beginnings. (Calmet)

Gill: 2Sa 17:9 - -- Behold, he is hid now in some pit, or in some other place,.... Some lurking place, as he was acquainted with many when he fled from Saul, and where h...

Behold, he is hid now in some pit, or in some other place,.... Some lurking place, as he was acquainted with many when he fled from Saul, and where he preserved himself from him; so that he could never take him, as he would now from Absalom, as he insinuates: but this is not all; not only by this means he would shelter himself, and be in safety; but lying thus concealed with others, and in ambush, there would be danger of his staring out of his hiding place when opportunity should offer, and falling on some of Absalom's troops unawares:

and it will come to pass, when some of them be overthrown at the first; that is, some of Absalom's party, on whom David and his men coming out of an ambush should fall, and make a slaughter among them first, before they could do anything of consequence; and so having got the first advantage, it would serve to animate them, and dishearten their enemies:

that whosoever heareth it; at that time, or the next day:

will say, there is a slaughter among the people that follow Absalom; there has been a defeat of them, and that may cause a defection.

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Commentary -- Verse Notes / Footnotes

NET Notes: 2Sa 17:9 Heb “that he falls on them [i.e., Absalom’s troops] at the first [encounter]; or “that some of them [i.e., Absalom’s troops] f...

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Commentary -- Verse Range Notes

TSK Synopsis: 2Sa 17:1-29 - --1 Ahithophel's counsel is overthrown by Hushai's, according to God's appointment.15 Secret intelligence is sent unto David.23 Ahithophel hangs himself...

MHCC: 2Sa 17:1-21 - --Here was a wonderful effect of Divine Providence blinding Absalom's mind and influencing his heart, that he could not rest in Ahithophel's counsel, an...

Matthew Henry: 2Sa 17:1-14 - -- Absalom is now in peaceable possession of Jerusalem; the palace-royal is his own, as are the thrones of judgment, even the thrones of the house of ...

Keil-Delitzsch: 2Sa 17:6-9 - -- In answer to Absalom's inquiry, "Shall we do his word (i.e., follow Ahithophel's advice) or not?"Hushai said, "The advice is not good that Ahithophe...

Constable: 2Sa 9:1--20:26 - --VI. DAVID'S TROUBLES chs. 9--20 Chapters 9-20 contrast with chapters 2-8 in that this later section is negative ...

Constable: 2Sa 13:1--20:26 - --C. David's Rejection and Return chs. 13-20 This is the longest literary section in the Court History of ...

Constable: 2Sa 15:1--20:26 - --2. Absalom's attempt to usurp David's throne chs. 15-20 Absalom was never Yahweh's choice to suc...

Constable: 2Sa 16:15--18:1 - --The counsel of Ahithophel and Hushai 16:15-17:29 This is the central unit of chapters 5-...

Guzik: 2Sa 17:1-29 - --2 Samuel 17 - Absalom Decides His Direction A. The advice of Ahithophel and of Hushai. 1. (1-4) The counsel of Ahithophel. Moreover Ahithophel sai...

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Introduction / Outline

JFB: 2 Samuel (Book Introduction) THE FIRST AND SECOND BOOKS OF SAMUEL. The two were, by the ancient Jews, conjoined so as to make one book, and in that form could be called the Book o...

JFB: 2 Samuel (Outline) AN AMALEKITE BRINGS TIDINGS OF SAUL'S DEATH. (2Sa. 1:1-16) DAVID LAMENTS SAUL AND JONATHAN. (2Sa 1:17-27) DAVID, BY GOD'S DIRECTION, GOES UP TO HEBRO...

TSK: 2 Samuel 17 (Chapter Introduction) Overview 2Sa 17:1, Ahithophel’s counsel is overthrown by Hushai’s, according to God’s appointment; 2Sa 17:15, Secret intelligence is sent un...

Poole: 2 Samuel 17 (Chapter Introduction) SAMUEL CHAPTER 17 Hushai, David’ s friend, being, by David’ s order, gone over to Absalom, by God’ s appointment overthroweth Ahitho...

MHCC: 2 Samuel (Book Introduction) This book is the history of the reign of king David. It relates his victories, the growth of the prosperity of Israel, and his reformation of the stat...

MHCC: 2 Samuel 17 (Chapter Introduction) (v. 1-21) Ahithophel's counsel overthrown. (2Sa 17:22-29) He hangs himself, Absalom pursues David.

Matthew Henry: 2 Samuel (Book Introduction) An Exposition, with Practical Observations, of The Second Book of Samuel This book is the history of the reign of king David. We had in the foregoing ...

Matthew Henry: 2 Samuel 17 (Chapter Introduction) The contest between David and Absalom is now hasting towards a crisis. It must be determined by the sword, and preparation is made accordingly in t...

Constable: 2 Samuel (Book Introduction) Introduction Second Samuel continues the history begun in 1 Samuel. Please see my comments regarding 2 Samuel's title, d...

Constable: 2 Samuel (Outline) Outline (Continued from notes on 1 Samuel) V. David's triumphs chs. 1-8 ...

Constable: 2 Samuel 2 Samuel Bibliography Achtemeier, Paul J., and Elizabeth Achtemeier. The Old Testament Roots of Our Faith. Phil...

Haydock: 2 Samuel (Book Introduction) THE SECOND BOOK OF SAMUEL; otherwise called, THE SECOND BOOK OF KINGS. INTRODUCTION. This Book contains the transactions of David till the end ...

Gill: 2 Samuel (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO 2 SAMUEL This book, in many copies of the Hebrew Bible, is carried on without any new title put unto it; the reason of it is, becau...

Gill: 2 Samuel 17 (Chapter Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO SECOND SAMUEL 17 This chapter relates the advice Ahithophel gave to march out speedily with a number of men in pursuit of David, wh...

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