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Text -- 2 Samuel 8:16 (NET)

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David’s Cabinet
8:16 Joab son of Zeruiah was general in command of the army; Jehoshaphat son of Ahilud was secretary;
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Names, People and Places, Dictionary Themes and Topics

Names, People and Places:
 · Ahilud father of Jehoshaphat and Baana
 · Jehoshaphat the son and successor of king Asa of Judah; the father of Jehoram; an ancestor of Jesus,son of Ahilud; a recorder for King Solomon,an officer over collecting food supplies for King Solomon from Issachar; son of Paruah,son of Asa; King of Judah,son of Nimshi; father of King Jehu of Israel,a situation ("valley") of being judged (OS)
 · Joab son of Zeruiah, David's sister; commander of King David's army,son of Seraiah son of Kenaz of Judah; grand nephew of Caleb of Moses' time,a man whose descendants returned from exile in Babylon,ancestor of a family group who returned from exile headed by Obadiah the son of Jehiel
 · Zeruiah daughter of Jesse; sister of David; mother of Abishai, Asahel and Joab


Dictionary Themes and Topics: SOLOMON | SHAVSHA | REMEMBER; REMEMBRANCE | RECORDER | Palestine | King | KING; KINGDOM | Joab | Jehoshaphat | JERUSALEM, 4 | JEHOSHAPHAT (1) | Israel | God | GOVERNMENT | GOD, NAMES OF | David | Cord | Cabinet | Armies | Ahilud | more
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Wesley , JFB , Clarke , TSK

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TSK Synopsis , MHCC , Matthew Henry , Keil-Delitzsch , Constable , Guzik

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Commentary -- Word/Phrase Notes (per phrase)

Wesley: 2Sa 8:16 - -- The treasurer, who examined all the accounts, and kept records of them.

The treasurer, who examined all the accounts, and kept records of them.

JFB: 2Sa 8:16 - -- By virtue of a special promise (2Sa 5:8).

By virtue of a special promise (2Sa 5:8).

JFB: 2Sa 8:16 - -- Historiographer or daily annalist, an office of great trust and importance in Eastern countries.

Historiographer or daily annalist, an office of great trust and importance in Eastern countries.

Clarke: 2Sa 8:16 - -- Joab - was over the host - General and commander-in-chief over all the army

Joab - was over the host - General and commander-in-chief over all the army

Clarke: 2Sa 8:16 - -- Ahilud - recorder - מזכיר mazkir , remembrancer; one who kept a strict journal of all the proceedings of the king and operations of his army; ...

Ahilud - recorder - מזכיר mazkir , remembrancer; one who kept a strict journal of all the proceedings of the king and operations of his army; a chronicler. Or, remembrancer, or, writer of chronicles .

TSK: 2Sa 8:16 - -- Joab : 2Sa 19:13, 2Sa 20:23; 1Ch 11:6, 1Ch 18:15-17 Jehoshaphat : 1Ki 4:3 recorder : or, remembrancer, or writer of chronicles

Joab : 2Sa 19:13, 2Sa 20:23; 1Ch 11:6, 1Ch 18:15-17

Jehoshaphat : 1Ki 4:3

recorder : or, remembrancer, or writer of chronicles

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Commentary -- Word/Phrase Notes (per Verse)

Barnes: 2Sa 8:16-18 - -- For a similar account of the officers of Solomon’ s kingdom, see 1Ki 4:1-6, where Jehoshaphat is still the recorder, and Benaiah is advanced to...

For a similar account of the officers of Solomon’ s kingdom, see 1Ki 4:1-6, where Jehoshaphat is still the recorder, and Benaiah is advanced to be captain of the host in the room of Joab. The recorder seems to have been a high officer of state, a kind of chancellor, whose office was to keep a record of the events of the kingdom for the king’ s information, and hence, he would naturally be the king’ s adviser. See Est 6:1-2; Isa 36:22; 2Ch 34:8. Such an officer is found among the ancient Egyptians and Persians.

Ahimelech the son of Abiathar - According to 1Sa 22:9-23, Abiathar, Zadok’ s colleague, was the son of Ahimelech. Abiathar the son of Ahimelech continued to be priest through the reign of David. (Compare also 1Ki 1:7, 1Ki 1:42; 1Ki 2:22-27.) It almost necessarily follows that there is some error in the text.

The scribe - Or secretary of state 2Ki 12:10; 2Ki 18:37, different from the military scribe (Jdg 5:14 note).

2Sa 8:18

The Cherethites and the Pelethites - See the marginal reference note.

Chief rulers - The word כהן kôhên , here rendered a "chief ruler,"is the regular word for a priest. In the early days of the monarchy the word כהן kôhên had not quite lost its etymological sense, from the root meaning to minister, or manage affairs, though in later times its technical sense alone survived.

Poole: 2Sa 8:16 - -- Joab having doubtless declared his repentance for his former crimes, and having done eminent service for his country, and having received the chief c...

Joab having doubtless declared his repentance for his former crimes, and having done eminent service for his country, and having received the chief command by virtue of David’ s promise and contract, 2Sa 5:8 , was still continued in his place.

Recorder either, first, The writer of chronicles. But it is not likely he would have been put among the great officers of state and church. Or, secondly, The treasurer, who examined all the accounts, and kept records of them. Or, thirdly, The king’ s counsellor, as Ahithophel is called, 2Sa 15:12 1Ch 27:33 , who was to bring things of moment to the king’ s mind and remembrance, and to admonish him from time to time of things fit to be done. See 1Ki 4:3 2Ki 18:18 .

Haydock: 2Sa 8:16 - -- Sarvia, sister of David, 1 Paralipomenon ii. 16. --- Army. Joab had acquired such influence over it, that his power was formidable even to David....

Sarvia, sister of David, 1 Paralipomenon ii. 16. ---

Army. Joab had acquired such influence over it, that his power was formidable even to David. He was a great warrior, and had contributed more than any other person to establish the throne of his uncle; but he was devoid of justice, and not much unlike Achilles. Jura negat sibi nata, nihil non arrogat armis. (Horace)

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Recorder, or chancellor. (Challoner) ---

A commentariis. (Aquila) ---

"Remembrancer," (Haydock) or the person who kept a journal of all memorable transactions. The kings of Persia employed people to keep such journals, 1 Esdras iv. 15., and Esther vi. 1. (Josephus, [Antiquities?] xi. 2.) ---

The power of these writers was very great, Judges v. 14., and 4 Kings xviii. 18. (Calmet) ---

Reference is often made to their "words of days." They had also to present petitions and memorials from the people. (Menochius)

Gill: 2Sa 8:16 - -- And Joab the son of Zeruiah was over the host,.... Which was not only owing to his relation to David, being his sister's son, but to his promise that...

And Joab the son of Zeruiah was over the host,.... Which was not only owing to his relation to David, being his sister's son, but to his promise that whoever smote the Jebusites first should be chief and captain; that is, should have the command of the army under him; this Joab did; and so was entitled to this office, and was put into it, and continued in it, 1Ch 11:6,

and Jehoshaphat the son of Ahilud was recorder; of memorable events, who kept a diary of whatsoever remarkable happened, which were digested into a chronicle, history, or annals; see Est 6:1; so the Targum, he"was appointed over the memorials;''or book of memorials, as Kimchi interprets it; that is, to take care of it, and see that everything worthy of notice was inserted in it; or was "remembrancer" g; one that put the king in mind what was to be done every day, or in certain cases, and so R. Isaiah explains it, the king's counsellor; some take him to be chancellor, as Luther and others h.

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Commentary -- Verse Notes / Footnotes

NET Notes: 2Sa 8:16 Heb “was over.”

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Commentary -- Verse Range Notes

TSK Synopsis: 2Sa 8:1-18 - --1 David subdues the Philistines and the Moabites.3 He smites Hadadezer, and the Syrians.9 Toi sends Joram with presents to bless him.11 The presents a...

MHCC: 2Sa 8:15-18 - --David neither did wrong, nor denied or delayed right to any. This speaks his close application to business; also his readiness to admit all addresses ...

Matthew Henry: 2Sa 8:15-18 - -- David was not so engaged in his wars abroad as to neglect the administration of the government at home. I. His care extended itself to all the parts...

Keil-Delitzsch: 2Sa 8:16 - -- The chief ministers were the following: - Joab (see at 2Sa 2:18) was "over the army,"i.e., commander-in-chief. Jehoshaphat the son of Ahilud, of who...

Constable: 2Sa 1:1--8:18 - --V. DAVID'S TRIUMPHS chs. 1--8 The first 20 chapters of 2 Samuel are divisible into four uni...

Constable: 2Sa 5:17--9:1 - --C. The Establishment of the Kingdom 5:17-8:18 "As the story of David's accession to kingship over Judah ...

Constable: 2Sa 8:1-18 - --4. The security of David's kingdom ch. 8 "From the religious heights of chapter 7 we descend aga...

Guzik: 2Sa 8:1-18 - --2 Samuel 8 - The Wars of David A. David's many wars. 1. (1) David subdues the Philistines. After this it came to pass that David attacked the Phil...

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Introduction / Outline

JFB: 2 Samuel (Book Introduction) THE FIRST AND SECOND BOOKS OF SAMUEL. The two were, by the ancient Jews, conjoined so as to make one book, and in that form could be called the Book o...

JFB: 2 Samuel (Outline) AN AMALEKITE BRINGS TIDINGS OF SAUL'S DEATH. (2Sa. 1:1-16) DAVID LAMENTS SAUL AND JONATHAN. (2Sa 1:17-27) DAVID, BY GOD'S DIRECTION, GOES UP TO HEBRO...

TSK: 2 Samuel 8 (Chapter Introduction) Overview 2Sa 8:1, David subdues the Philistines and the Moabites; 2Sa 8:3, He smites Hadadezer, and the Syrians; 2Sa 8:9, Toi sends Joram with pre...

Poole: 2 Samuel 8 (Chapter Introduction) SAMUEL CHAPTER 8 David subdueth the Philistines and the Moabites; smiteth the king of Zobah, and the Syrians; placeth a garrison in Damascus, 2Sa 8...

MHCC: 2 Samuel (Book Introduction) This book is the history of the reign of king David. It relates his victories, the growth of the prosperity of Israel, and his reformation of the stat...

MHCC: 2 Samuel 8 (Chapter Introduction) (2Sa 8:1-8) David subdues the Philistines, the Moabites, and the Syrians. (2Sa 8:9-14) The spoil dedicated. (2Sa 8:15-18) David's government and off...

Matthew Henry: 2 Samuel (Book Introduction) An Exposition, with Practical Observations, of The Second Book of Samuel This book is the history of the reign of king David. We had in the foregoing ...

Matthew Henry: 2 Samuel 8 (Chapter Introduction) David having sought first the kingdom of God and the righteousness thereof, settling the ark as soon as he was himself well settled, we are here to...

Constable: 2 Samuel (Book Introduction) Introduction Second Samuel continues the history begun in 1 Samuel. Please see my comments regarding 2 Samuel's title, d...

Constable: 2 Samuel (Outline) Outline (Continued from notes on 1 Samuel) V. David's triumphs chs. 1-8 ...

Constable: 2 Samuel 2 Samuel Bibliography Achtemeier, Paul J., and Elizabeth Achtemeier. The Old Testament Roots of Our Faith. Phil...

Haydock: 2 Samuel (Book Introduction) THE SECOND BOOK OF SAMUEL; otherwise called, THE SECOND BOOK OF KINGS. INTRODUCTION. This Book contains the transactions of David till the end ...

Gill: 2 Samuel (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO 2 SAMUEL This book, in many copies of the Hebrew Bible, is carried on without any new title put unto it; the reason of it is, becau...

Gill: 2 Samuel 8 (Chapter Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO SECOND SAMUEL 8 This chapter gives a relation of the wars of David with his enemies, and his victories over them, particularly the ...

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