
Text -- Ecclesiastes 8:15 (NET)




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Wesley -> Ecc 8:15
This he speaks of sensual delights.
Namely, for the "just" man, whose chief good is religion, not for the worldly.

JFB: Ecc 8:15 - -- Hebrew, "adhere"; not for ever, but it is the only sure good to be enjoyed from earthly labors (equivalent to "of his labor the days of his life"). St...
Hebrew, "adhere"; not for ever, but it is the only sure good to be enjoyed from earthly labors (equivalent to "of his labor the days of his life"). Still, the language resembles the skeptical precept (1Co 15:32), introduced only to be refuted; and "abide" is too strong language, perhaps, for a religious man to apply to "eating" and "mirth."
Clarke -> Ecc 8:15
Clarke: Ecc 8:15 - -- Then I commended mirth - These are some more of the cavils of the infidel objector: "Since virtue is frequently under oppression, and vice triumphs ...
Then I commended mirth - These are some more of the cavils of the infidel objector: "Since virtue is frequently under oppression, and vice triumphs in health, and rolls in wealth, I see plainly that we should not trouble ourselves about future things; and therefore should be governed by the maxim Ede, Bibe, Lude. Post mortem nulla voluptas .
Eat, drink, and play
While here you may
For soon as deat
Has stopp’ d your breat
Ye ne’ er shall see a cheerful day.
TSK -> Ecc 8:15
TSK: Ecc 8:15 - -- Then I : Some consider this as the cavil of an infidel objector, equivalent to the Epicurean maxim, Ede , bibe , lude; post mortem nulla voluptas ...
Then I : Some consider this as the cavil of an infidel objector, equivalent to the Epicurean maxim, Ede , bibe , lude; post mortem nulla voluptas , ""Eat, drink, and play; there is no pleasure after death.""But it may be regarded as a recommendation of a moderate use of worldly things, with a cheerful and contented mind; which may justly be considered as the greatest advantage which can be made of all below the sun, and amidst all changes, such a frame of mind, if the result of right principles, may and ought to be preserved; and it will be the recompence and solace of all our labours and toils. Ecc 2:24, Ecc 3:12, Ecc 3:13, Ecc 3:22, Ecc 5:18, Ecc 9:7-9; 1Ti 4:3, 1Ti 4:4, 1Ti 6:17

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Barnes -> Ecc 8:15
Barnes: Ecc 8:15 - -- Mirth - Better, Gladness, or "joy"(as in Ecc 2:10). The Hebrew word is applied not only to the pleasures arising from the physical senses, but ...
Mirth - Better, Gladness, or "joy"(as in Ecc 2:10). The Hebrew word is applied not only to the pleasures arising from the physical senses, but also frequently to religious joy. The sentiment of this verse is a frequent conclusion of the writer’ s personal experience (compare marginal references), and is unfairly charged with Epicureanism. The Preacher is careful to set forth pleasure as a gift from God, to be earned by labor, and received with thankfulness to the Giver, and to be accounted for to Him. His estimate of the pleasures of the senses is recorded in Ecc 7:2-6.
Poole -> Ecc 8:15
Poole: Ecc 8:15 - -- This he speaks, either,
1. In the person of a sensual man. Things being so, as was related, Ecc 8:14 , it is best to give a man’ s self up to ...
This he speaks, either,
1. In the person of a sensual man. Things being so, as was related, Ecc 8:14 , it is best to give a man’ s self up to eating and drinking, and all manner of carnal delights. Or,
2. In his own name and person. Upon these considerations I concluded that it was most advisable for a man not to perplex and torment himself with the thoughts of the seeming inequality of Divine Providence, and of the great disorders which are in the world, or with cares and fears about future events, or with infinite and insatiable desires of worldly things; but quietly, and cheerfully, and thankfully to enjoy the comforts which God gives him. See Poole "Ecc 2:24 3:12,13 .
That shall abide with him of his labour this is the best advantage which he can make of this world’ s goods as to the present life.
Haydock -> Ecc 8:15
Haydock: Ecc 8:15 - -- No good for a man, &c. Some commentators think the wise man here speaks in the person of the libertine, representing the objections of these men aga...
No good for a man, &c. Some commentators think the wise man here speaks in the person of the libertine, representing the objections of these men against divine Providence, and the inferences they draw from thence, which he takes care afterwards to refute. But it may also be said, that his meaning is to commend the moderate use of the goods of this world, preferably to the cares and solicitudes of worldlings, their attachment to vanity and curiosity, and presumptuously diving into the unsearchable ways of divine providence. (Challoner) (Chap. ii. 24., and iii. 12., and Ecclesiasticus xv.) (Calmet) ---
Felicity is not attached to temporal prosperity, nor are the afflicted always miserable. (Worthington)
Gill -> Ecc 8:15
Gill: Ecc 8:15 - -- Then I commended mirth,.... Innocent mirth, a cheerfulness of spirit in whatsoever state condition men are; serenity and tranquillity of mind, thankfu...
Then I commended mirth,.... Innocent mirth, a cheerfulness of spirit in whatsoever state condition men are; serenity and tranquillity of mind, thankfulness for what they have, and a free and comfortable use of it; this the wise man praised and recommended to good men, as being much better than to fret at the prosperity of the wicked, and the seemingly unequal distribution of things in this world, and because they had not so much of them: as others; who yet had reason to be thankful for what they had, and to lift up their heads and be cheerful, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God in another world. The Targum interprets it of the joy of the law;
because a man hath no better thing under the sun than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry; of earthly things there is nothing better than for a man freely and cheerfully, with moderation and thankfulness, to enjoy what God has given him; this is what had been observed before, Ecc 2:24; and is not the language of an epicure, or a carnal man, who observing that no difference is made between the righteous and the wicked, that it is as well or better with the wicked than the righteous, determines to give up himself to sensual lusts and pleasures; but it is the good and wholesome advice of the wise man, for men to be easy under every providence, satisfied with their present condition and circumstances, and be cheerful and pleasant, and not distress themselves about things they cannot alter;
for that shall abide with him of his labour the days of his life,
which God giveth him under the sun; man's present life is under the sun, and is continued as long as it pleases God; though it is but short, rather to be counted by days than years, and is a laborious one; and all that he gets by his labour, enjoyed by him, is to eat and drink cheerfully; and this he may expect to have and continue with him as long as he lives, even food and raiment, and with this he should be content.

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TSK Synopsis -> Ecc 8:1-17
TSK Synopsis: Ecc 8:1-17 - --1 True wisdom is modest.2 Kings are to be respected.6 Divine providence is to be observed.12 It is better with the godly in adversity, than with the w...
MHCC -> Ecc 8:14-17
MHCC: Ecc 8:14-17 - --Faith alone can establish the heart in this mixed scene, where the righteous often suffer, and the wicked prosper. Solomon commended joy, and holy sec...
Matthew Henry -> Ecc 8:14-17
Matthew Henry: Ecc 8:14-17 - -- Wise and good men have, of old, been perplexed with this difficulty, how the prosperity of the wicked and the troubles of the righteous can be recon...
Keil-Delitzsch -> Ecc 8:15
Keil-Delitzsch: Ecc 8:15 - --
"And I commended joy, that there is nothing better for a man under the sun than to eat and drink and enjoy himself; and that this accompanies him in...
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