
Text -- Ecclesiastes 8:8 (NET)




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To keep it in the body. This is added as another evidence of man's misery.

Wesley: Ecc 8:8 - -- In that fatal conflict between life and death, when a man is struggling with death, though to no purpose, for death will be always conqueror.
In that fatal conflict between life and death, when a man is struggling with death, though to no purpose, for death will be always conqueror.

Wesley: Ecc 8:8 - -- And although wicked men, who most fear death, use all possible means, to free themselves from it, yet they shall not escape it. The most subtle wicked...
And although wicked men, who most fear death, use all possible means, to free themselves from it, yet they shall not escape it. The most subtle wickedness cannot outwit death, nor the most daring wickedness out - brave it.
JFB: Ecc 8:8 - -- "breath of life" (Ecc 3:19), as the words following require. Not "wind," as WEISS thinks (Pro 30:4). This verse naturally follows the subject of "time...

JFB: Ecc 8:8 - -- Alluding to the liability to military service of all above twenty years old (Num 1:3), yet many were exempted (Deu 20:5-8). But in that war (death) th...
Alluding to the liability to military service of all above twenty years old (Num 1:3), yet many were exempted (Deu 20:5-8). But in that war (death) there is no exemption.

JFB: Ecc 8:8 - -- Literally, the master of it. Wickedness can get money for the sinner, but cannot deliver him from the death, temporal and eternal, which is its penalt...
Clarke -> Ecc 8:8
Clarke: Ecc 8:8 - -- There is no man that hath power over the spirit to retain the spirit - The Chaldee has, "There is no man who can rule over the spirit of the breath,...
There is no man that hath power over the spirit to retain the spirit - The Chaldee has, "There is no man who can rule over the spirit of the breath, so as to prevent the animal life from leaving the body of man."Others translate to this sense: "No man hath power over the wind to restrain the wind; and none has power over death to restrain him; and when a man engages as a soldier, he cannot be discharged from the war till it is ended; and by wickedness no man shall be delivered from any evil."Taking it in this way, these are maxims which contain self-evident truths. Others suppose the verse to refer to the king who tyrannizes over and oppresses his people. He shall also account to God for his actions; he shall die, and he cannot prevent it; and when he is judged, his wickedness cannot deliver him.
TSK -> Ecc 8:8
TSK: Ecc 8:8 - -- is no : Ecc 3:21; 2Sa 14:14; Job 14:5, Job 34:14; Psa 49:6-9, Psa 89:48; Heb 9:27
power : 1Co 15:43; 2Co 13:4
discharge : or, casting off weapons, Deu...
is no : Ecc 3:21; 2Sa 14:14; Job 14:5, Job 34:14; Psa 49:6-9, Psa 89:48; Heb 9:27
discharge : or, casting off weapons, Deu 20:1-8; 2Ki 7:15
neither : Psa 9:17, Psa 52:5-7, Psa 73:18-28; Pro 14:32; Isa 28:15, Isa 28:18

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Barnes -> Ecc 8:8
Barnes: Ecc 8:8 - -- Neither hath he power - Rather: "and there is no power."Compare Ecc 3:19. No discharge ... - i. e., "No exemption from the final hour of ...
Neither hath he power - Rather: "and there is no power."Compare Ecc 3:19.
No discharge ... - i. e., "No exemption from the final hour of struggle between life and death."
Wickedness - Though the life of the wicked may be prolonged Ecc 7:15, yet wickedness itself has no inherent power to prolong that life.
Poole -> Ecc 8:8
Poole: Ecc 8:8 - -- The spirit i.e. the soul of man, which is oft called a spirit, as Job 7:7 10:12 Psa 78:39 104:29 , &c.
To retain the spirit to keep it in the body ...
The spirit i.e. the soul of man, which is oft called a spirit, as Job 7:7 10:12 Psa 78:39 104:29 , &c.
To retain the spirit to keep it in the body beyond the time which God hath allotted to it. This is added as another evidence of man’ s misery.
In the day or, against the day, i.e. to avoid or delay that day.
There is no discharge as there is in other wars, when soldiers either are dismissed from the service, or escape by flight or otherwise. In that war ; in that fatal conflict between life and death, between nature and the disease, when a man is struggling with death, though to no purpose, for death shall always be conqueror.
Neither shall wickedness deliver those that are given to it and although wicked men, who most fear death, use all possible means, whether good or bad, to free themselves from this deadly blow, yet they shall not escape it.
Haydock -> Ecc 8:8
Haydock: Ecc 8:8 - -- Spirit from leaving the body, or the wind from blowing. There is no quarter given by death; so the wicked cannot escape vengeance.
Spirit from leaving the body, or the wind from blowing. There is no quarter given by death; so the wicked cannot escape vengeance.
Gill -> Ecc 8:8
Gill: Ecc 8:8 - -- There is no man that hath power over the spirit to retain the spirit,.... Which is not to be understood of the wind, which the word used sometimes si...
There is no man that hath power over the spirit to retain the spirit,.... Which is not to be understood of the wind, which the word used sometimes signifies, and of men's having no power to restrain that, or hinder it from blowing; for to what purpose should Solomon mention this? rather it may be considered as a check upon despotic and arbitrary princes not to stretch their power too far; since they had none over the spirits or minds of men, and could not hinder them from thinking ill of them, and wishing ill to them, nor restrain their hatred of them; whatever power they had or exercised over their bodies and estates, they had none over their spirits, or their consciences; no lawful power to restrain them from their to God, nor to oblige them to do that which he has forbidden; nor to compel them to anything against conscience; nor to bind their consciences in matters indifferent: or as an argument with subjects to obey the commands of their sovereign; since it is not in their power to restrain the spirit and wrath of princes, which is as the roaring of a lion, and as: he messengers of death, Pro 16:14; particularly to be careful that they do not commit any capital offence, for which sentence may be passed to take away life; when it will not be in their power to retain it; nor rescue themselves out of the hands of justice and the civil magistrate, but must submit. Or else it is to be understood of every man's spirit at the hour of death, and of the unavoidableness of it, as the next clause explains it; and by "spirit" is meant, either the sensitive soul, the same with the spirit of a beast, without which the body is dead, and is like the wind that passeth away, and ceaseth when the breath is stopped; or the rational soul, the spirit that is committed to God, and returns to him at death, Luk 23:43. This a man has not power over to dismiss or retain at pleasure; he cannot keep it one moment longer when it is called for and required by the Father of spirits, the Creator of it; he has not power "to restrain" d it, as in a prison, as the word signifies, as Alshech observes; whence Aben Ezra says, that the spirit or soul in the body is like a prisoner in a prison; but nothing, that attends a man in this life, or he is in possession of, can keep the soul in this prison, when the time of its departure is come; not riches, nor honours, nor wisdom and leaning, nor strength and youth, nor all the force of medicine; the time is fixed, it is the appointment of God, the bounds set by him cannot be passed, Ecc 3:2, Job 14:5. The Targum is,
"no man has power over the spirit of the soul to restrain the soul of life, that it might not cease from the body of man;''
and to the same sense Jarchi,
"to restrain the spirit in his body, that the angel of death should not take him;''
neither hath he power in the day of death; or "dominion" e; death strips a man of all power and authority, the power that the husband has over the wife, or parents over their children, or the master over his servant, or the king over his subjects; death puts down all power and authority: it is an observation of Jarchi's, that David after he came to the throne is everywhere called King David, but, when he came to die, only David, 1Ki 2:1; no king nor ruler can stand against death any more than a beggar; up man is lord of death any more than of life, but death is lord of all; all must and do submit to it, high and low, rich and poor; there is a day fixed for it, and that day can never be adjourned, or put off to another; and as man has not power to deliver himself in the day of death, so neither his friend, as the Targum, nor any relation whatever;
and there is no discharge in that war; death is a warfare as well as life, with which nature struggles, but in vain; it is an enemy, and the last that shall be destroyed; it is a king, and a very powerful one; there is no withstanding him, he is always victorious; and there is no escaping the battle with him, or fleeing from him; a discharge of soldiers in other wars is sometimes obtained by interest, by the entreaty of friends, or by money; but here all cries and entreaties signify nothing; nor does he value riches, gold, or all the forces of strength; see 2Sa 12:18; under the old law, if a person had built a new house, or married a wife, or was faint hearted, he was excused and dismissed; but none of these things are of any avail in this war, Deu 20:5; captives taken in war are sometimes dismissed by their conquerors, or they find ways and means to make their escape; but nothing of this kind can be done when death has seized on the persons of men. Some render it, there is "no sending to" or "in that war" f; there is no sending forces against death to withstand him, it is to no purpose; there is no sending a message to him to sue for a peace, truce, or reprieve; he will hearken to nothing; there is no sending one in the room of another, as Jarchi observes,
"a man cannot say, I will send my son, or my servant;''
no surrogation is allowed of in this case, as David wished for, 2Sa 18:33. Aben Ezra interprets it, no armour, and so many interpreters; and so the Targum;
"nor do instruments of armour help in war;''
in this war: in other wars a man may put on a helmet of brass and a coat of mail, to protect and defend him, or throw darts and arrows; but these signify nothing when death makes his approach and attack;
neither shall wickedness deliver those that are given to it; or "the masters of it" g; that is, from death; neither Satan the wicked one, as Jerom, who is wickedness itself, and with whom wicked men are confederate, can deliver them from death; nor sinners the most abandoned deliver themselves, who have made a covenant with it, and an agreement with hell, Isa 28:15; such who are masters of the greatest wicked craft and cunning, and who devise many ways to escape other things, can contrive none to escape death; nor will riches gotten by wickedness deliver the owners of them from death; see Pro 10:2; This sense is mentioned by Aben Ezra, and not to be despised.

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TSK Synopsis -> Ecc 8:1-17
TSK Synopsis: Ecc 8:1-17 - --1 True wisdom is modest.2 Kings are to be respected.6 Divine providence is to be observed.12 It is better with the godly in adversity, than with the w...
MHCC -> Ecc 8:6-8
MHCC: Ecc 8:6-8 - --God has, in wisdom, kept away from us the knowledge of future events, that we may be always ready for changes. We must all die, no flight or hiding-pl...
Matthew Henry -> Ecc 8:6-8
Matthew Henry: Ecc 8:6-8 - -- Solomon had said (Ecc 8:5) that a wise man's heart discerns time and judgment, that is, a man's wisdom will go a great way, by the blessing of God...
Keil-Delitzsch -> Ecc 8:7-8
Keil-Delitzsch: Ecc 8:7-8 - --
Ecc 8:7 and Ecc 8:8 thus continue the For and For : "For he knoweth not that which shall be; for who can tell him who it will be? There is no man ...
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Clues in the text indicate the value and purpose of 6:10-11:6. The phr...

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