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Text -- Ecclesiastes 9:5 (NET)

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9:5 For the living know that they will die, but the dead do not know anything; they have no further reward– and even the memory of them disappears.
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Dictionary Themes and Topics: WISDOM | PSALMS, BOOK OF | MEMORIAL; MEMORY | Instruction | Hades | ESCHATOLOGY OF THE OLD TESTAMENT | Death | Dead | DECEASE, IN THE OLD TESTAMENT AND APOCYPHRA | more
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Commentary -- Word/Phrase Notes (per phrase)

Wesley: Ecc 9:5 - -- Whereby they are taught to improve life.

Whereby they are taught to improve life.

Wesley: Ecc 9:5 - -- Of the actions and events of this world.

Of the actions and events of this world.

Wesley: Ecc 9:5 - -- The fruit of their labours in this world, are utterly lost as to them.

The fruit of their labours in this world, are utterly lost as to them.

Wesley: Ecc 9:5 - -- Even in those places where they had lived in great power and glory.

Even in those places where they had lived in great power and glory.

JFB: Ecc 9:5 - -- And may thereby be led "so to number their days, that they may apply their hearts to wisdom" (Ecc 7:1-4; Psa 90:12).

And may thereby be led "so to number their days, that they may apply their hearts to wisdom" (Ecc 7:1-4; Psa 90:12).

JFB: Ecc 9:5 - -- That is, so far as their bodily senses and worldly affairs are concerned (Job 14:21; Isa 63:16); also, they know no door of repentance open to them, s...

That is, so far as their bodily senses and worldly affairs are concerned (Job 14:21; Isa 63:16); also, they know no door of repentance open to them, such as is to all on earth.

JFB: Ecc 9:5 - -- No advantage from their worldly labors (Ecc 2:18-22; Ecc 4:9).

No advantage from their worldly labors (Ecc 2:18-22; Ecc 4:9).

JFB: Ecc 9:5 - -- Not of the righteous (Psa 112:6; Mal 3:16), but the wicked, who with all the pains to perpetuate their names (Psa 49:11) are soon "forgotten" (Ecc 8:1...

Not of the righteous (Psa 112:6; Mal 3:16), but the wicked, who with all the pains to perpetuate their names (Psa 49:11) are soon "forgotten" (Ecc 8:10).

Clarke: Ecc 9:5 - -- The living know that they shall die - This is so self-evident that none can doubt it; and therefore all that have this conviction should prepare for...

The living know that they shall die - This is so self-evident that none can doubt it; and therefore all that have this conviction should prepare for death and eternal blessedness

Clarke: Ecc 9:5 - -- But the dead know not any thing - Cut off from life, they know nothing of what passes under the sun. Their day of probation is ended, and therefore ...

But the dead know not any thing - Cut off from life, they know nothing of what passes under the sun. Their day of probation is ended, and therefore they can have no farther reward in living a holy life; nor can they be liable to any farther punishment for crimes in a state of probation, that being ended.

Defender: Ecc 9:5 - -- This does not mean that there is no future life or consciousness after death, but only that nothing more can be done to earn heavenly rewards. Even th...

This does not mean that there is no future life or consciousness after death, but only that nothing more can be done to earn heavenly rewards. Even the greatest men are soon forgotten after they die; thus it is important to make one's brief life span as productive for God as possible."

TSK: Ecc 9:5 - -- the living : Ecc 7:2; Job 30:23; Heb 9:27 the dead : Job 14:21; Psa 6:5, Psa 88:10, Psa 88:11; Isa 63:16 for the : Ecc 2:16, Ecc 8:10; Job 7:8-10; Psa...

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Commentary -- Word/Phrase Notes (per Verse)

Barnes: Ecc 9:5-6 - -- See Ecc 8:12, note; Ecc 8:14, note. The living are conscious that there is a future before them: but the dead are unconscious; they earn nothing, re...

See Ecc 8:12, note; Ecc 8:14, note. The living are conscious that there is a future before them: but the dead are unconscious; they earn nothing, receive nothing, even the memory of them soon disappears; they are no longer excited by the passions which belong to people in this life; their share in its activity has ceased. Solomon here describes what he sees, not what he believes; there is no reference here to the fact or the mode of the existence of the soul in another world, which are matters of faith.

The last clause of Ecc 9:6 indicates that the writer confines his observations on the dead to their portion in, or relation to, this world.

Ecc 9:6

Now - Rather: "long ago."

Poole: Ecc 9:5 - -- The living know that they shall die whereby they are taught to improve life, whilst they have it, to their greatest comfort and advantage. The dead ...

The living know that they shall die whereby they are taught to improve life, whilst they have it, to their greatest comfort and advantage.

The dead know not anything to wit, of the actions and events in this world, as this is limited in the end of the next verse. Compare Job 14:21 Isa 13:16 .

A reward the reward or fruit of their labours in this world, which is utterly lost as to them, and enjoyed by others. See Ecc 2:21 . For otherwise, that there are future rewards after death, is asserted by Solomon elsewhere, as we have seen, and shall hereafter see.

Is forgotten to wit, amongst living men, and even in those places where they had lived in great power and glory; as was noted, Ecc 8:10 .

Haydock: Ecc 9:5 - -- Know nothing more, viz., As to the transactions of this world, in which they have now no part, unless it be revealed to them; neither have they any k...

Know nothing more, viz., As to the transactions of this world, in which they have now no part, unless it be revealed to them; neither have they any knowledge or power now of doing any thing to secure their eternal state, (if they have not taken care of it in their lifetime) nor can they now procure themselves any good, as the living always may do, by the grace of God. (Challoner)

Gill: Ecc 9:5 - -- For the living know that they shall die,.... Death is certain, it is the demerit of sin, the appointment of God and the time of it is fixed; it may be...

For the living know that they shall die,.... Death is certain, it is the demerit of sin, the appointment of God and the time of it is fixed; it may be known that it will be, from the word of God that assures it, from all experience which confirms it, and from the decline of nature, and the seeds of death in men. This "the living" know that live corporeally, even the wicked themselves, though they put the evil day far from them; and so good men, that live spiritually, being quickened by the Spirit and grace of God, and live a life of faith and holiness; they know they shall die, though Christ died for them, and has abolished death, as a punishment and a curse, and took away its sting, and made it a blessing; wherefore it is desirable to them, as being for their good: but there are some things about death they ordinarily know not; they do not know the time of their death; nor the place where they shall die; nor of what death they shall die; nor in what circumstances, both outward and inward: of these the Targum understands the passage;

"for the righteous know that if they sin, they shall be reckoned as dead men in the world to come, therefore they keep their ways, and sin not; but if they sin, they return by repentance;''

but the dead know not anything; this is not to be understood of their separate spirits, and of the things of the other world; for the righteous dead know much, their knowledge is greatly increased; they know, as they are known; they know much of God in Christ, of his perfections, purposes, covenant, grace, and love; they know much of Christ, of his person, offices, and glory, and see him as he is; they know much of the Gospel, and the mysteries of it; and of angels, and the spirits of just men, they now converse with; and of the glories and happiness of the heavenly state; even they know abundantly more than they did in this life: and the wicked dead, in their separate spirits, know there is a God that judgeth; that their souls are immortal; that there is a future state; indeed they know and feel the torments of hell, the worm that never dies, and the fire that is not quenched: but this is to be interpreted of their bodily senses now extinct, and of worldly things they have now nothing to do with; they know not any thing that is done in this world, nor how it fares with their children and friends they have left behind them; see Job 14:21; nor therefore are they to be prayed unto, and used as mediators with God. The Targum is,

"and sinners know not any good, so that they do not make their works good while they live; and they know not any good in the world to come;''

neither have they any more a reward; not but that there will be rewards in a future state, in which everyone shall have his own reward; there will be a reward for the righteous; they will receive the reward of the inheritance, though it will be, not of debt, but of grace; and particularly in the millennium state, Psa 58:11; and every transgression of the wicked will receive a just recompence of reward; to whom the reward of their hands will be given them, Heb 2:2; but the sense is, that after death there will be no enjoyment of a man's labours; he will not have the use, profit, and advantage of them, but his heirs that succeed him, Ecc 4:9;

for the memory of them is forgotten; not the memory of the righteous with God, for whom a book of remembrance is written, and whose names are written in heaven; these are had in everlasting remembrance, and their memory blessed: but the memory of wicked men; who, though they take pains to perpetuate their names, which they give to their lands, yet the Lord causes their memory to cease, and they are forgotten in the place where they lived; not only among the righteous, as the Targum, but among others, Isa 26:14; even among those that enjoy the fruit of their labour; they will scarce think of them any more, or, however, in a little time they will be quite forgotten by them.

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Commentary -- Verse Notes / Footnotes

NET Notes: Ecc 9:5 Heb “for their memory is forgotten.” The pronominal suffix is an objective genitive, “memory of them.”

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Commentary -- Verse Range Notes

TSK Synopsis: Ecc 9:1-18 - --1 Like things happen to good and bad.4 There is a necessity of death unto men.7 Comfort is all their portion in this life.11 God's providence rules ov...

MHCC: Ecc 9:4-10 - --The most despicable living man's state, is preferable to that of the most noble who have died impenitent. Solomon exhorts the wise and pious to cheerf...

Matthew Henry: Ecc 9:4-10 - -- Solomon, in a fret, had praised the dead more than the living (Ecc 4:2); but here, considering the advantages of life to prepare for death and mak...

Keil-Delitzsch: Ecc 9:5-6 - -- He sarcastically verifies his comparison in favour of a living dog. "For the living know that they shall die; but the dead know not anything, and ha...

Constable: Ecc 6:10--11:7 - --III. THE LIMITATIONS OF WISDOM 6:10--11:6 Clues in the text indicate the value and purpose of 6:10-11:6. The phr...

Constable: Ecc 9:1--11:7 - --C. Man's Ignorance of the Future 9:1-11:6 The emphasis in this section (9:1-11:6) is on what man does no...

Constable: Ecc 9:1-10 - --1. The future of the righteous on earth 9:1-10 9:1 "All this" refers to the general pattern of God's inconsistent retribution that Solomon had discuss...

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Commentary -- Other

Critics Ask: Ecc 9:5 ECCLESIASTES 9:5 —Do the dead remember anything? PROBLEM: Taken at face value, Solomon seems to be claiming that the dead have no more knowledg...

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Introduction / Outline

JFB: Ecclesiastes (Book Introduction) The Hebrew title is Koheleth, which the speaker in it applies to himself (Ecc 1:12), "I, Koheleth, was king over Israel." It means an Assembler or Con...

JFB: Ecclesiastes (Outline) INTRODUCTION. (Ecc. 1:1-18)

TSK: Ecclesiastes 9 (Chapter Introduction) Overview Ecc 9:1, Like things happen to good and bad; Ecc 9:4, There is a necessity of death unto men; Ecc 9:7, Comfort is all their portion in th...

Poole: Ecclesiastes 9 (Chapter Introduction) CHAPTER 9 All things in the hand of God: his love or hatred not visible in them; but the like happeneth to good and bad in this life, and in death ...

MHCC: Ecclesiastes (Book Introduction) The name of this book signifies " The Preacher." The wisdom of God here preaches to us, speaking by Solomon, who it is evident was the author. At the...

MHCC: Ecclesiastes 9 (Chapter Introduction) (Ecc 9:1-3) Good and bad men fare alike as to this world. (Ecc 9:4-10) All men must die, Their portion as to this life. (Ecc 9:11, Ecc 9:12) Disappo...

Matthew Henry: Ecclesiastes (Book Introduction) An Exposition, with Practical Observations, of The Book of Ecclesiastes We are still among Solomon's happy men, his happy servants, that stood contin...

Matthew Henry: Ecclesiastes 9 (Chapter Introduction) Solomon, in this chapter, for a further proof of the vanity of this world, gives us four observations which he had made upon a survey of the state ...

Constable: Ecclesiastes (Book Introduction) Introduction Title The title of this book in the Hebrew text is all of verse 1. The Se...

Constable: Ecclesiastes (Outline)

Constable: Ecclesiastes Ecclesiastes Bibliography Archer, Gleason L., Jr. "The Linguistic Evidence for the Date of Ecclesiastes'." Jour...

Haydock: Ecclesiastes (Book Introduction) ECCLESIASTES. INTRODUCTION. This Book is called Ecclesiastes, or the preacher, (in Hebrew, Coheleth ) because in it Solomon, as an excelle...

Gill: Ecclesiastes (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO ECCLESIASTES This book has been universally received into the canon of the Scriptures, by Jews and Christians. The former, indeed, ...

Gill: Ecclesiastes 9 (Chapter Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO ECCLESIASTES 9 Though the wise man, with all his wisdom, search, and labour, could not find out the causes and reasons of divine Pr...

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