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Text -- Hebrews 12:7 (NET)

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12:7 Endure your suffering as discipline; God is treating you as sons. For what son is there that a father does not discipline?
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Dictionary Themes and Topics: SONS OF GOD (NEW TESTAMENT) | Resignation | Perseverance | Parents | LOVE | HEBREWS, EPISTLE TO THE | DISCIPLINE | Chastisement | CHASTENING; CHASTISEMENT | Afflictions and Adversities | Adoption | Adoni-zedec | more
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Robertson: Heb 12:7 - -- That ye endure ( hupomenete ). Present active indicative or present active imperative and so just "endure for chastening."

That ye endure ( hupomenete ).

Present active indicative or present active imperative and so just "endure for chastening."

Robertson: Heb 12:7 - -- Dealeth with you ( humin prospheretai ). Present middle indicative of prospherō , but this sense of bearing oneself towards one with the dative her...

Dealeth with you ( humin prospheretai ).

Present middle indicative of prospherō , but this sense of bearing oneself towards one with the dative here only in the N.T., though often in the older Greek.

Robertson: Heb 12:7 - -- What ( tis ). Interrogative.

What ( tis ).

Interrogative.

Robertson: Heb 12:7 - -- Whom ( hon ). Relative. Cf. Mat 7:9.

Whom ( hon ).

Relative. Cf. Mat 7:9.

Vincent: Heb 12:7 - -- If ye endure chastening ( εἰς παιδείαν ὑπομένετε ) Rend. " it is for chastening that ye endure." A.V. follows the re...

If ye endure chastening ( εἰς παιδείαν ὑπομένετε )

Rend. " it is for chastening that ye endure." A.V. follows the reading of T. R. εἰ if . Do not faint at affliction. Its purpose is disciplinary. Παιδεία is here the end or result of discipline. In Heb 12:5 it is the process .

Vincent: Heb 12:7 - -- God dealeth with you as with sons ( ὡς υἱοῖς ὑμῖν προσφέρεται ὁ θεὸς ) The verb means to bring to...

God dealeth with you as with sons ( ὡς υἱοῖς ὑμῖν προσφέρεται ὁ θεὸς )

The verb means to bring to: often to bring an offering to the altar, as Mat 5:23, Mat 5:24; Mat 8:4. In the passive voice with the dative, to be born toward one ; hence, to attack , assail , deal with , behave toward . See Thucyd. i. 140; Eurip. Cycl . 176; Hdt. vii. 6. The afflictive dealing of God with you is an evidence that you are sons.

Vincent: Heb 12:7 - -- What son is he whom the father, etc. ( τίς υἰὸς ) Some interpreters render, " who is a son whom the father?" etc. That is, no one i...

What son is he whom the father, etc. ( τίς υἰὸς )

Some interpreters render, " who is a son whom the father?" etc. That is, no one is a son who is without paternal chastening. The A.V. is better. The idea expressed by the other rendering appears in the next verse.

Wesley: Heb 12:7 - -- When he offends.

When he offends.

JFB: Heb 12:7 - -- In Heb 12:7-8 the need of "chastening" or "discipline" is inculcated; in Heb 12:9, the duty of those to whom it is administered.

In Heb 12:7-8 the need of "chastening" or "discipline" is inculcated; in Heb 12:9, the duty of those to whom it is administered.

JFB: Heb 12:7 - -- The oldest manuscripts read, "With a view to chastening (that is, since God's chastisement is with a view to your chastening, that is, disciplinary am...

The oldest manuscripts read, "With a view to chastening (that is, since God's chastisement is with a view to your chastening, that is, disciplinary amelioration) endure patiently"; so Vulgate. ALFORD translates it as indicative, not so well, "It is for chastisement that ye are enduring."

JFB: Heb 12:7 - -- "beareth Himself toward you" in the very act of chastening.

"beareth Himself toward you" in the very act of chastening.

JFB: Heb 12:7 - -- "What son is there" even in ordinary life? Much more God as to His sons (Isa 48:10; Act 14:22). The most eminent of God's saints were the most afflict...

"What son is there" even in ordinary life? Much more God as to His sons (Isa 48:10; Act 14:22). The most eminent of God's saints were the most afflicted. God leads them by a way they know not (Isa 42:16). We too much look at each trial by itself, instead of taking it in connection with the whole plan of our salvation, as if a traveller were to complain of the steepness and roughness of one turn in the path, without considering that it led him into green pastures, on the direct road to the city of habitation. The New Testament alone uses the Greek term for education (paideia), to express "discipline" or correction, as of a child by a wise father.

Clarke: Heb 12:7 - -- If ye endure chastening - If ye submit to his authority, humble yourselves under his hand, and pray for his blessing, you will find that he deals wi...

If ye endure chastening - If ye submit to his authority, humble yourselves under his hand, and pray for his blessing, you will find that he deals with you as beloved children, correcting you that he may make you partakers of his holiness

Clarke: Heb 12:7 - -- God dealeth with you as with sons - He acknowledges by this that you belong to the family, and that he, as your Father, has you under proper discipl...

God dealeth with you as with sons - He acknowledges by this that you belong to the family, and that he, as your Father, has you under proper discipline. It is a maxim among the Jewish rabbins that "the love which is not conjoined with reproof is not genuine."

Calvin: Heb 12:7 - -- 7.=== For what son is he, === etc. He reasons from the common practice of men, that it is by no means right or meet that God’s children should be ...

7.=== For what son is he, === etc. He reasons from the common practice of men, that it is by no means right or meet that God’s children should be exempt from the discipline of the cross; for if no one is to be found among us, at least no prudent man and of a sound judgment, who does not correct his children — for without discipline they cannot be led to a right conduct — how much less will God neglect so necessary a remedy, who is the best and the wisest Father?

If any one raises an objection, and says that corrections of this kind cease among men as soon as children arrive at manhood: to this I answer, that as long as we live we are with regard to God no more than children, and that this is the reason why the rod should ever be applied to our backs. Hence the Apostle justly infers, that all who seek exemption from the cross do as it were withdraw themselves from the number of his children.

It hence follows that the benefit of adoption is not valued by us as it ought to be, and that the grace of God is wholly rejected when we seek to withdraw ourselves from his scourges; and this is what all they do who bear not their afflictions with patience. But why does he call those who refuse correction bastards rather than aliens? Even because he was addressing those who were members of the Church, and were on this account the children of God. He therefore intimates that the profession of Christ would be false and deceitful if they withdrew themselves from the discipline of the Father, and that they would thus become bastards, and be no more children. 249

TSK: Heb 12:7 - -- endure : Job 34:31, Job 34:32; Pro 19:18, Pro 22:15, Pro 23:13, Pro 23:14, Pro 29:15, Pro 29:17; Act 14:22 for what : 1Sa 2:29, 1Sa 2:34, 1Sa 3:13; 1K...

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Barnes: Heb 12:7 - -- If ye endure chastening - That is, if you undergo, or are called to experience correction. It does not mean here, "if you endure it patiently; ...

If ye endure chastening - That is, if you undergo, or are called to experience correction. It does not mean here, "if you endure it patiently; or if you bear up under it;"but "if you are chastised or corrected by God."The affirmation does not relate to the manner of bearing it, but to the fact that we are disciplined.

God dealeth with you as with sons - He does not cast you off and regard you as if you were in no way related to him.

For what son is he whom the father chasteneth not - That is, he evinces toward his son the care which shows that he sustains the relation of a father. If he deserves correction, he corrects him; and he aims by all proper means to exhibit the appropriate care and character of a father. And as we receive such attention from an earthly parent, we ought to expect to receive similar notice from our Father in heaven.

Poole: Heb 12:7 - -- If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons: his reason he illustrateth from the convertibility of sufferring affliction and chastenin...

If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons: his reason he illustrateth from the convertibility of sufferring affliction and chastening from God the Father, and being his child; If ye have a child-like sense of chastening, such afflictions and sufferings from him as the Father ordereth to you, so as quietly and patiently to bear them, and by faith expecting a saving issue from them; God the Father in love chastening you, beareth, carrieth, and offereth himself to you as a father to his son, full of grace and love, Lev 26:41 Job 13:15 Psa 89:30 Mic 7:9 .

For what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? No son or child of God can be instanced in, who was capable of chastening, but more or less have felt it; even God’ s only and best beloved One, Heb 5:8 , for our sakes felt it, Isa 53:5 . The interrogation is a vehement assertion, and so to be resolved.

Gill: Heb 12:7 - -- If ye endure chastening,.... In faith, with patience, with courage and constancy, with humility and reverence: there are many things which may encoura...

If ye endure chastening,.... In faith, with patience, with courage and constancy, with humility and reverence: there are many things which may encourage and animate the saints to endure it in such a manner; as that it is but a chastening, and the chastening of a father; it should be considered from whence it comes, and for what ends; that it comes from the Lord, and is for his glory, and their good; the example of Christ, and of other saints, should excite unto it. The Jews have a saying q, that

"the doctrine of chastisements is silence;''

that is, they are to be patiently bore, and not murmured at. The Vulgate Latin, and all the Oriental versions, read the words as an exhortation; the former of these renders it, "persevere in discipline"; the Syriac version, "endure correction"; the Arabic version, "be ye patient in chastisement"; and the Ethiopic version, "endure your chastening": but then the word, "for", should be supplied in the next clause, as it is in the Syriac and Ethiopic versions, making that to be a reason, enforcing this,

for God dealeth with you as with sons: chastening is owning of them for his children, and it discovers them to be so, and shows that they continue such; he does not chasten them but when it is necessary; and whenever he does, it is in love and mercy, and for good, and in the best time, seasonably, and in measure:

for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? no one can be named, not the Son of God himself; he had the chastisement of our peace upon him; nor the more eminent among the children of God, as Abraham, David, and others; nor any in any catalogue, or list of them, such as in the preceding chapter; not one in any age or period of time whatever, in any bodies, societies, or communities of them, either under the Old or New Testament.

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Commentary -- Verse Notes / Footnotes

NET Notes: Heb 12:7 Or “in order to become disciplined.”

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Commentary -- Verse Range Notes

TSK Synopsis: Heb 12:1-29 - --1 An exhortation to constant faith, patience, and godliness.22 A commendation of the new testament above the old.

Combined Bible: Heb 12:7-8 - --Chastisement    (Hebrews 12:7, 8)    The all-important matter in connection with Divine chastenings, so far as the Christian is...

MHCC: Heb 12:1-11 - --The persevering obedience of faith in Christ, was the race set before the Hebrews, wherein they must either win the crown of glory, or have everlastin...

Matthew Henry: Heb 12:4-17 - -- Here the apostle presses the exhortation to patience and perseverance by an argument taken from the gentle measure and gracious nature of those suff...

Barclay: Heb 12:5-11 - --The writer to the Hebrews sets out still another reason why men should cheerfully bear affliction when it comes to them. He has urged them to bear it...

Constable: Heb 11:1--12:14 - --IV. THE PROPER RESPONSE 11:1--12:13 "In chapter 10:22-25 there were three exhortations, respectively to Faith, H...

Constable: Heb 12:1-13 - --B. Demonstrating Necessary Endurance 12:1-13 The writer followed up his scriptural exposition with anoth...

Constable: Heb 12:4-11 - --2. The proper view of trials 12:4-11 The writer put his readers' sufferings in perspective so they might not overestimate the difficulty they faced in...

College: Heb 12:1-29 - --HEBREWS 12 VIII. GOD EXPECTS US TO ENDURE DISCIPLINE (12:1-29) A. A CALL TO PERSEVERANCE (12:1-3) 1 Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a gr...

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Introduction / Outline

Robertson: Hebrews (Book Introduction) The Epistle to the Hebrews By Way of Introduction Unsettled Problems Probably no book in the New Testament presents more unsettled problems tha...

JFB: Hebrews (Book Introduction) CANONICITY AND AUTHORSHIP.--CLEMENT OF ROME, at the end of the first century (A.D), copiously uses it, adopting its words just as he does those of the...

JFB: Hebrews (Outline) THE HIGHEST OF ALL REVELATIONS IS GIVEN US NOW IN THE SON OF GOD, WHO IS GREATER THAN THE ANGELS, AND WHO, HAVING COMPLETED REDEMPTION, SITS ENTHRONE...

TSK: Hebrews 12 (Chapter Introduction) Overview Heb 12:1, An exhortation to constant faith, patience, and godliness; Heb 12:22, A commendation of the new testament above the old.

Poole: Hebrews 12 (Chapter Introduction) CHAPTER 13

MHCC: Hebrews (Book Introduction) This epistle shows Christ as the end, foundation, body, and truth of the figures of the law, which of themselves were no virtue for the soul. The grea...

MHCC: Hebrews 12 (Chapter Introduction) (Heb 12:1-11) An exhortation to be constant and persevere, The example of Christ is set forth, and the gracious design of God in all the sufferings be...

Matthew Henry: Hebrews (Book Introduction) An Exposition, with Practical Observations, of The Epistle to the Hebrews Concerning this epistle we must enquire, I. Into the divine authority of it...

Matthew Henry: Hebrews 12 (Chapter Introduction) The apostle, in this chapter, applies what he has collected in the chapter foregoing, and makes use of it as a great motive to patience and perseve...

Barclay: Hebrews (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO THE LETTER TO THE HEBREWS God Fulfils Himself In Many Ways Religion has never been the same thing to all men. "God," as Tennyson sai...

Barclay: Hebrews 12 (Chapter Introduction) The Race And The Goal (Heb_12:1-2) The Standard Of Comparison (Heb_12:3-4) The Discipline Of God (Heb_12:5-11) Duties, Aims And Dangers (Heb_12:...

Constable: Hebrews (Book Introduction) Introduction Historical background The writer said that he and those to whom he wrote ...

Constable: Hebrews (Outline)

Constable: Hebrews Hebrews Bibliography Andersen, Ward. "The Believer's Rest (Hebrews 4)." Biblical Viewpoint 24:1 (April 1990):31...

Haydock: Hebrews (Book Introduction) THE EPISTLE OF ST. PAUL, THE APOSTLE, TO THE HEBREWS. INTRODUCTION. The Catholic Church hath received and declared this Epistle to be part of ...

Gill: Hebrews (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO HEBREWS That this epistle was written very early appears from hence, that it was imitated by Clement of Rome, in his epistle to the...

Gill: Hebrews 12 (Chapter Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO HEBREWS 12 In this chapter the apostle presses to a constant exercise of faith and patience, amidst the various afflictions the sai...

College: Hebrews (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION It is difficult to overestimate the significance of Hebrews for understanding the nature of the new covenant. No other document in the N...

College: Hebrews (Outline) OUTLINE I. JESUS IS SUPERIOR TO THE ANGELS - 1:1-14 A. The Preeminence of the Son - 1:1-4 B. The Son Superior to the Angels - 1:5-14 II. ...

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