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Text -- Hebrews 12:11 (NET)

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12:11 Now all discipline seems painful at the time, not joyful. But later it produces the fruit of peace and righteousness for those trained by it.
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Robertson: Heb 12:11 - -- For the present ( pros to paron ). A classical phrase (Thucydides), pros with the accusative neuter singular articular participle of pareimi , to b...

For the present ( pros to paron ).

A classical phrase (Thucydides), pros with the accusative neuter singular articular participle of pareimi , to be beside.

Robertson: Heb 12:11 - -- Not joyous, but grievous ( ou charas ,alla lupēs ). Predicate ablative (springing from) or predicate genitive (marked by). Either makes sense, but...

Not joyous, but grievous ( ou charas ,alla lupēs ).

Predicate ablative (springing from) or predicate genitive (marked by). Either makes sense, but note predicate ablative in 2Co 4:7 (kai tou theou kai mē ex hēmōn ).

Robertson: Heb 12:11 - -- Peaceable fruit ( karpon eirēnikon ). Old adjective from eirēnē (peace), in N.T. only here and Jam 3:17. Peaceable after the chastening is ov...

Peaceable fruit ( karpon eirēnikon ).

Old adjective from eirēnē (peace), in N.T. only here and Jam 3:17. Peaceable after the chastening is over.

Robertson: Heb 12:11 - -- Exercised thereby ( di' autēs gegumnasmenois ). Perfect passive participle (dative case) of gumnazō , state of completion, picturing the discipli...

Exercised thereby ( di' autēs gegumnasmenois ).

Perfect passive participle (dative case) of gumnazō , state of completion, picturing the discipline as a gymnasium like Heb 5:14; 1Ti 4:7.

Vincent: Heb 12:11 - -- No chastening for the present seemeth ( πᾶσα μὲν παιδεία πρὸς μὲν τὸ παρὸν οὐ δοκεῖ ) Lit. ...

No chastening for the present seemeth ( πᾶσα μὲν παιδεία πρὸς μὲν τὸ παρὸν οὐ δοκεῖ )

Lit. all chastening - doth not seem . Πᾶσα of all sorts , divine and human. The A.V., by joining οὐ not to πᾶσα all , and rendering no chastisement , weakens the emphasis on the idea every kind of chastisement . Πρὸς μὲν τὸ παρὸν for the present . For the force of πρὸς see on Heb 12:10. Not merely during the present, but for the present regarded as the time in which its application is necessary and salutary. Μὲν indicates that the suffering present is to be offset by a fruitful future - but (δὲ ) afterward .

Vincent: Heb 12:11 - -- To be joyous but grievous ( χαρᾶς εἶναι ἀλλὰ λύπης ) Lit. to be of joy but of grief .

To be joyous but grievous ( χαρᾶς εἶναι ἀλλὰ λύπης )

Lit. to be of joy but of grief .

Vincent: Heb 12:11 - -- It yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness ( καρπὸν εἰρηνικὸν ἀποδίδωσιν δικαιοσύνης ) Perh...

It yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness ( καρπὸν εἰρηνικὸν ἀποδίδωσιν δικαιοσύνης )

Perhaps with a suggestion of recompense for the long-suffering and waiting, since ἀποδιδόναι often signifies " to give back." The phrase ἀποδιδόναι καρπὸν only here and Rev 22:2. Καρπὸν fruit with διδόναι to give , Mat 13:8; Mar 4:8 : with ποιεῖν to make or produce , often in Synoptic Gospels, as Mat 3:8, Mat 3:10; Mat 7:17; Luk 3:8; Luk 6:43, etc.: with φέρειν to bear , always and only in John, Joh 12:24; Joh 15:2, Joh 15:4, Joh 15:5, Joh 15:8, Joh 15:16 : with βλαστάνειν to bring forth , Jam 5:18. Ἑιρηνικός peaceable , in N.T. Only here and Jam 3:17, as an epithet of wisdom. Quite often in lxx of men , the heart , especially of words and sacrifices . The phrase καρπός εἰρηνικός peaceable fruit (omit the ), N.T.o , o lxx. The phrase fruit of righteousness , Phi 1:11; Jam 3:18, and lxx, Pro 3:9; Pro 11:30; Pro 13:2; Amo 6:13 : comp. Psa 1:3; Psa 57:11. The genitive of righteousness is explicative or appositional; fruit which consists in righteousness or is righteousness.

Vincent: Heb 12:11 - -- Unto them which are exercised thereby ( τοῖς δἰ αὐτῆς γεγυμνασμένοις ) Who have been subjected to the severe d...

Unto them which are exercised thereby ( τοῖς δἰ αὐτῆς γεγυμνασμένοις )

Who have been subjected to the severe discipline of suffering, and have patiently undergone it. For the verb see on 1Ti 4:7. Rend. " it yieldeth peaceable fruit unto them that have been exercised thereby, even the fruit of righteousness." This preserves the Greek order, and puts righteousness in its proper, emphatic position.

Wesley: Heb 12:11 - -- Whether from our earthly or heavenly Father, Is for the present grievous, yet it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness - Holiness and happines...

Whether from our earthly or heavenly Father, Is for the present grievous, yet it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness - Holiness and happiness.

Wesley: Heb 12:11 - -- That receive this exercise as from God, and improve it according to his will.

That receive this exercise as from God, and improve it according to his will.

JFB: Heb 12:11 - -- Greek, "matter of joy . . . matter of grief." The objection that chastening is grievous is here anticipated and answered. It only seems so to those be...

Greek, "matter of joy . . . matter of grief." The objection that chastening is grievous is here anticipated and answered. It only seems so to those being chastened, whose judgments are confused by the present pain. Its ultimate fruit amply compensates for any temporary pam. The real object of the fathers in chastening is not that they find pleasure in the children's pain. Gratified wishes, our Father knows, would often be our real curses.

JFB: Heb 12:11 - -- Righteousness (in practice, springing from faith) is the fruit which chastening, the tree yields (Phi 1:11). "Peaceable" (compare Isa 32:17): in contr...

Righteousness (in practice, springing from faith) is the fruit which chastening, the tree yields (Phi 1:11). "Peaceable" (compare Isa 32:17): in contrast to the ordeal of conflict by which it has been won. "Fruit of righteousness to be enjoyed in peace after the conflict" [THOLUCK]. As the olive garland, the emblem of peace as well as victory, was put on the victor's brow in the games.

JFB: Heb 12:11 - -- As athletes exercised in training for a contest. Chastisement is the exercise to give experience, and make the spiritual combatant irresistibly victor...

As athletes exercised in training for a contest. Chastisement is the exercise to give experience, and make the spiritual combatant irresistibly victorious (Rom 5:3). "Oh, happy the servant for whose improvement his Lord is earnest, with whom he deigns to be angry, whom He does not deceive by dissembling admonition" (withholding admonition, and so leading the man to think he needs it not)! [TERTULLIAN, Patience, 11]. Observe the "afterwards"; that is the time often when God works.

Clarke: Heb 12:11 - -- No chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous - Neither correction, wholesome restraint, domestic regulations, nor gymnastic discipline, are pl...

No chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous - Neither correction, wholesome restraint, domestic regulations, nor gymnastic discipline, are pleasant to them that are thus exercised; but it is by these means that obedient children, scholars, and great men are made. And it is by God’ s discipline that Christians are made. He who does not bear the yoke of Christ is good for nothing to others, and never gains rest to his own soul

Clarke: Heb 12:11 - -- The peaceable fruit of righteousness - i.e. The joyous, prosperous fruits; those fruits by which we gain much, and through which we are made happy

The peaceable fruit of righteousness - i.e. The joyous, prosperous fruits; those fruits by which we gain much, and through which we are made happy

Clarke: Heb 12:11 - -- Exercised thereby - Γεγυμνασμενοις· To the trained. There is still an allusion to the Grecian games; and in the word before us to t...

Exercised thereby - Γεγυμνασμενοις· To the trained. There is still an allusion to the Grecian games; and in the word before us to those gymnastic exercises by which the candidates for the prizes were trained to the different kinds of exercises in which they were to contend when the games were publicly opened.

Calvin: Heb 12:11 - -- 11.=== Now no chastening, === etc. This he adds, lest we should measure God’s chastisements by our present feelings; for he shows that we are like...

11.=== Now no chastening, === etc. This he adds, lest we should measure God’s chastisements by our present feelings; for he shows that we are like children who dread the rod and shun it as much as they can, for owing to their age they cannot yet judge how useful it may be to them. The object, then, of this admonition is, that chastisements cannot be estimated aright if judged according to what the flesh feels under them, and that therefore we must fix our eyes on the end: we shall thus receive the peaceable fruit of righteousness. And by the fruit of righteousness he means the fear of the Lord and a godly and holy life, of which the cross is the teacher. He calls it peaceable, because in adversities we are alarmed and disquieted, being tempted by impatience, which is always noisy and restless; but being chastened, we acknowledge with a resigned mind how profitable did that become to us which before seemed bitter and grievous. 251

TSK: Heb 12:11 - -- no chastening : Psa 89:32, Psa 118:18; Pro 15:10, Pro 19:18 nevertheless : Heb 12:5, Heb 12:6, Heb 12:10 peaceable : Psa 119:165; Isa 32:17; Rom 5:3-5...

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Barnes: Heb 12:11 - -- Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous - It does not impart pleasure, nor is this its design. All chastisement is...

Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous - It does not impart pleasure, nor is this its design. All chastisement is intended to produce pain, and the Christian is as sensitive to pain as others. His religion does not blunt his sensibilities and make him a stoic, but it rather increases his susceptibility to suffering. The Lord Jesus, probably, felt pain, reproach, and contempt more keenly than any other human being ever did; and the Christian feels the loss of a child, or physical suffering, as keenly as anyone. But while religion does not render him insensible to suffering, it does two things:

(1)\caps1     i\caps0 t enables him to bear the pain without complaining; and,

(2)\caps1     i\caps0 t turns the affliction into a blessing on his soul. "Nevertheless afterward."In future life. The effect is seen in a pure life, and in a more entire devotedness to God. We are not to look for the proper fruits of affliction while we are suffering, but "afterward."

It yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness - It is a tree that bears good fruit, and we do not expect the fruit to form and ripen at once. It may be long maturing, but it will be rich and mellow when it is ripe. It frequently requires a long time before all the results of affliction appear - as it requires months to form and ripen fruit. Like fruit it may appear at first sour, crabbed, and unpalatable; but it will be at last like the ruddy peach or the golden orange. When those fruits are ripened, they are:

(1)\caps1     f\caps0 ruits of "righteousness."They make us more holy, more dead to sin and the world, and more alive to God. And they are

(2)\caps1     "p\caps0 eaceable."They produce peace, calmness, submission in the soul. They make the heart more tranquil in its confidence in God, and more disposed to promote the religion of peace.

The apostle speaks of this as if it were a universal truth in regard to Christians who are afflicted. And it is so. There is no Christian who is not ultimately benefited by trials, and who is not able at some period subsequently to say, "It was good for me that I was afflicted. Before I was afflicted I went astray; but now have I kept thy word."When a Christian comes to die, he does not feel that he has had one trial too many, or one which he did not deserve. He can then look back and see the effect of some early trial so severe that he once thought he could hardly endure it, spreading a hallowed influence over his future years, and scattering its golden fruit all along the pathway of life. I have never known a Christian who was not benefited by afflictions; I have seen none who was not able to say that his trials produced some happy effect on his religious character, and on his real happiness in life. If this be so, then no matter how severe our trials, we should submit to them without a complaint. The more severe they are, the more we shall yet be blessed - on earth or in heaven.

Poole: Heb 12:11 - -- Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: a further argument to persuade Christians not to despise nor faint under the Lo...

Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: a further argument to persuade Christians not to despise nor faint under the Lord’ s chastenings, is the good issue of them, subjoined to fortify them against the suggestions of flesh and blood, as if they could not be from love, nor for good, because they are smarting and grievous; therefore the Spirit asserts the truth as to both: All these chastenings and rebukes that the Father of spirits inflicts on his children, not one excepted, are, for all the time they are so inflicted, sensed by his children to be as they are; they feel them to have no joy in them, but a great deal of grief, pain, and smart; they are not pleasing of themselves, and God would not have them to be so, but his to feel the smart of his rod, when he corrects them with it.

Nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby yet have not his children any reason to despond or faint under them; for they are not always to continue, and there accrueth after them a benefit to them, that will make amends for them all the afterward following to eternity: this chastening rendereth and bringeth forth to all the corrected children, who labour to improve the smart, under God’ s direction and blessing, a righteous compliance with the whole will of God, and a purging out of all sin, Isa 27:9 ; filling the soul full of joy and peace, and securing to the chastened a confluence of all that good that will abundantly reward them for their sufferings, setting them above them, and making them blessed, Isa 32:17 Rom 5:1-5 Jam 1:2-4 .

Haydock: Heb 12:11 - -- It is true all discipline, all corrections, and sufferings in this present life, are disagreeable to our nature, because they bring not joy, but troub...

It is true all discipline, all corrections, and sufferings in this present life, are disagreeable to our nature, because they bring not joy, but trouble and grief with them; yet afterwards, they who have been exercised with them, will reap the most peaceable fruit of justice, eternal peace and happiness in heaven. (Witham) ---

We must not judge of sufferings by the smart they occasion, but by the fruits of peace, justice, and eternal glory they produce in such as submit to them with patience.

Gill: Heb 12:11 - -- Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous,.... These words anticipate an objection, taken from the grief and sorrow that comes by afflict...

Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous,.... These words anticipate an objection, taken from the grief and sorrow that comes by afflictions; and therefore how should they be for profit and advantage? The apostle answers, by granting that no affliction "seemeth" to be joyous, in outward appearance to flesh and blood, and according to the judgment of carnal sense and reason; in this view of afflictions, it must be owned, they do not appear to be matter, cause, or occasion of joy; though they really are, when viewed by faith, and judged of by sanctified reason; for they are tokens of the love of God and Christ; are evidences of sonship; and work together either for the temporal, or spiritual, or eternal good of the saints: and so likewise indeed "for the present time", either while under them, or in the present state of things, they seem so; but hereafter, either now when they are over; or however in the world to come, when the grace, goodness, wisdom, and power of God in them, in supporting under them, bringing out of them, and the blessed effects, and fruits of them, will be discerned, they will be looked upon with pleasure: but for the present, and when carnal sense and reason prevail, it must be allowed, that they are not matter of joy,

but grievous; or matter, cause, and occasion of grief; they cause pain and grief to the afflicted, and to their friends and relations about them; and especially, they are very grieving, and occasion heaviness, and are grievous to be borne, when soul troubles attend them; when God hides his face, and the soul is filled with a sense of wrath, looking upon the chastening, as being in wrath and hot displeasure; when Satan is let loose, and casts his fiery darts thick and fast; and when the soul has lost its views of interest in the love of God, and in the grace of Christ, and in eternal glory and happiness.

Nevertheless, afterwards it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them that are exercised thereby: who are used unto afflictions; "trained" up and instructed in the school of afflictions, as the word may signify; in which many useful lessons of faith and hope, patience and experience, humility, self-denial; and resignation of will, are learned: and to such afflictions yield "the fruit of peace"; external peace and prosperity sometimes follow upon them; and oftentimes internal peace is enjoyed in them; and they always issue to such in eternal peace and everlasting happiness; and this peace arises from the "righteousness" of Christ, laid hold upon by faith, which produces a true conscience peace, and entitles to that everlasting joy and rest which remains for the people of God. Moreover, the fruit of holiness may be designed, which saints by afflictions are made partakers of, and the peace enjoyed in that; for there is a peace, which though it does not spring from, yet is found in the ways of righteousness; and though this peace may not be had for the present, or while the affliction lasts, yet it is experienced "afterwards"; either after the affliction is over in the present life, or however in eternity, when the saints enter into peace; for the end of such dispensations, and of the persons exercised by them, is peace,

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Commentary -- Verse Notes / Footnotes

NET Notes: Heb 12:11 Grk “the peaceful fruit of righteousness.”

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TSK Synopsis: Heb 12:1-29 - --1 An exhortation to constant faith, patience, and godliness.22 A commendation of the new testament above the old.

Combined Bible: Heb 12:11 - --Chastisement    (Hebrews 12:11)    One reason, perhaps, why so little is written to-day upon Divine chastisement, and why it so...

MHCC: Heb 12:1-11 - --The persevering obedience of faith in Christ, was the race set before the Hebrews, wherein they must either win the crown of glory, or have everlastin...

Matthew Henry: Heb 12:4-17 - -- Here the apostle presses the exhortation to patience and perseverance by an argument taken from the gentle measure and gracious nature of those suff...

Barclay: Heb 12:5-11 - --The writer to the Hebrews sets out still another reason why men should cheerfully bear affliction when it comes to them. He has urged them to bear it...

Constable: Heb 11:1--12:14 - --IV. THE PROPER RESPONSE 11:1--12:13 "In chapter 10:22-25 there were three exhortations, respectively to Faith, H...

Constable: Heb 12:1-13 - --B. Demonstrating Necessary Endurance 12:1-13 The writer followed up his scriptural exposition with anoth...

Constable: Heb 12:4-11 - --2. The proper view of trials 12:4-11 The writer put his readers' sufferings in perspective so they might not overestimate the difficulty they faced in...

College: Heb 12:1-29 - --HEBREWS 12 VIII. GOD EXPECTS US TO ENDURE DISCIPLINE (12:1-29) A. A CALL TO PERSEVERANCE (12:1-3) 1 Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a gr...

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Introduction / Outline

Robertson: Hebrews (Book Introduction) The Epistle to the Hebrews By Way of Introduction Unsettled Problems Probably no book in the New Testament presents more unsettled problems tha...

JFB: Hebrews (Book Introduction) CANONICITY AND AUTHORSHIP.--CLEMENT OF ROME, at the end of the first century (A.D), copiously uses it, adopting its words just as he does those of the...

JFB: Hebrews (Outline) THE HIGHEST OF ALL REVELATIONS IS GIVEN US NOW IN THE SON OF GOD, WHO IS GREATER THAN THE ANGELS, AND WHO, HAVING COMPLETED REDEMPTION, SITS ENTHRONE...

TSK: Hebrews 12 (Chapter Introduction) Overview Heb 12:1, An exhortation to constant faith, patience, and godliness; Heb 12:22, A commendation of the new testament above the old.

Poole: Hebrews 12 (Chapter Introduction) CHAPTER 13

MHCC: Hebrews (Book Introduction) This epistle shows Christ as the end, foundation, body, and truth of the figures of the law, which of themselves were no virtue for the soul. The grea...

MHCC: Hebrews 12 (Chapter Introduction) (Heb 12:1-11) An exhortation to be constant and persevere, The example of Christ is set forth, and the gracious design of God in all the sufferings be...

Matthew Henry: Hebrews (Book Introduction) An Exposition, with Practical Observations, of The Epistle to the Hebrews Concerning this epistle we must enquire, I. Into the divine authority of it...

Matthew Henry: Hebrews 12 (Chapter Introduction) The apostle, in this chapter, applies what he has collected in the chapter foregoing, and makes use of it as a great motive to patience and perseve...

Barclay: Hebrews (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO THE LETTER TO THE HEBREWS God Fulfils Himself In Many Ways Religion has never been the same thing to all men. "God," as Tennyson sai...

Barclay: Hebrews 12 (Chapter Introduction) The Race And The Goal (Heb_12:1-2) The Standard Of Comparison (Heb_12:3-4) The Discipline Of God (Heb_12:5-11) Duties, Aims And Dangers (Heb_12:...

Constable: Hebrews (Book Introduction) Introduction Historical background The writer said that he and those to whom he wrote ...

Constable: Hebrews (Outline)

Constable: Hebrews Hebrews Bibliography Andersen, Ward. "The Believer's Rest (Hebrews 4)." Biblical Viewpoint 24:1 (April 1990):31...

Haydock: Hebrews (Book Introduction) THE EPISTLE OF ST. PAUL, THE APOSTLE, TO THE HEBREWS. INTRODUCTION. The Catholic Church hath received and declared this Epistle to be part of ...

Gill: Hebrews (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO HEBREWS That this epistle was written very early appears from hence, that it was imitated by Clement of Rome, in his epistle to the...

Gill: Hebrews 12 (Chapter Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO HEBREWS 12 In this chapter the apostle presses to a constant exercise of faith and patience, amidst the various afflictions the sai...

College: Hebrews (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION It is difficult to overestimate the significance of Hebrews for understanding the nature of the new covenant. No other document in the N...

College: Hebrews (Outline) OUTLINE I. JESUS IS SUPERIOR TO THE ANGELS - 1:1-14 A. The Preeminence of the Son - 1:1-4 B. The Son Superior to the Angels - 1:5-14 II. ...

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