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Text -- Hosea 9:12 (NET)
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There shall be a total extirpation of them.
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Wesley: Hos 9:12 - -- To compleat their misery, I will depart from them. It is sad to lose our children, but sadder to lose our God.
To compleat their misery, I will depart from them. It is sad to lose our children, but sadder to lose our God.
JFB: Hos 9:12 - -- Even though they should rear their children, yet will I bereave them (the Ephraimites) of them (Job 27:14).
Even though they should rear their children, yet will I bereave them (the Ephraimites) of them (Job 27:14).
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JFB: Hos 9:12 - -- Yet the ungodly in their madness desire God to depart from them (Job 21:14; Job 22:17; Mat 8:34). At last they know to their cost how awful it is when...
Clarke -> Hos 9:12
Clarke: Hos 9:12 - -- Though they bring up their children - And were they even to have children, I would bereave them of them; for, when I depart from them, they shall ha...
Though they bring up their children - And were they even to have children, I would bereave them of them; for, when I depart from them, they shall have all manner of wretchedness and wo.
Calvin -> Hos 9:12
Calvin: Hos 9:12 - -- He then adds, Though they shall bring up children, I will yet exterminate them, so that they shall not be men, or, before they grow up, as some e...
He then adds, Though they shall bring up children, I will yet exterminate them, so that they shall not be men, or, before they grow up, as some expound the words. The meaning is, that though Ephraim then flattered himself, yet a dreadful ruin was at hand, which would extinguish the whole seed, so that there would be nothing remaining. But lest they should think that all was over, when the Lord had inflicted on them one punishment, he lays down three gradations; that God would slay them first in the birth, then extinguish them in the womb, and, lastly, before conception; but if he spared them, so that they would raise up children, it would yet be without advantage, inasmuch as God would take away the youths in the flower of their age. Thus, then he threatens entire destruction to the kingdom of Israel.
And, lastly, he closes the verse in these words, And surely woe will be to them when I shall depart from them The Prophet means by these words, that men become miserable and accursed, when they alienate themselves from God, and when God takes away from them his favour. After having mentioned especially the vengeance of Godwhich was at hand, he says here that the cause and occasion of all evils would be, that God would depart from them, inasmuch as they had previously renounced their faith in him. But we must bear in mind the reason why the Prophet added this clause, and that is, because wicked men dream, that though God be displeased, things will yet go on prosperously with them: for they neither ascribe adversities to the wrath of God, nor acknowledge the fountain of all blessings to be God’s free and paternal favour. As then profane men do not understand this truth, however much God may proclaim that he is an enemy to them, that he is armed to destroy them, they care nothing, but promise to themselves a prosperous fortune: until they feel the hand of God and the signs of destruction appear, they continue still secure. This is the reason why the Prophet says, that there is woe to men when God departs from them. Forasmuch, then, as Scripture teaches everywhere that every desirable thing comes and flows to us from the mere grace of God and his paternal favour, so the Prophet declares in this place, that men are miserable and accursed when God is angry with them. But it follows —
TSK -> Hos 9:12
TSK: Hos 9:12 - -- yet : Hos 9:13, Hos 9:16; Deu 28:32, Deu 28:41, Deu 28:42, Deu 32:25; Job 27:14; Jer 15:7, Jer 16:3, Jer 16:4; Lam 2:20
not : Num 26:65; Jdg 4:16
woe ...
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Barnes -> Hos 9:12
Barnes: Hos 9:12 - -- Though they bring up children - God had threatened to deprive them of children, in every stage before or at their birth. Now, beyond this, he t...
Though they bring up children - God had threatened to deprive them of children, in every stage before or at their birth. Now, beyond this, he tells them, as to those who should escape this sentence, he would bereave them of them, or make them childless.
That there shall not be a man left - Literally, "from man."The brief word may be filled up, as the English Version has done (by not infrequent an idiom):
(1) "from there being a man;"or
(2) "from"among "men;"as Samuel said to Agag (1Sa 15:33; add Pro 30:14), "as thy sword has made women childless, so shall thy mother be childless among women;"or
(3) "from"becoming "men,"i. e., from reaching man’ s estate.
The prophet, in any case, does not mcan absolute excision, for he says, "they shall be wanderers among the nations,"and had foretold, that they should abide, as they now are, and be converted in the end. But since their pride was in their numbers, he says, that these should be reduced in every stage from conception to ripened manhood. So God had forewarned Israel in the law, "If thou wilt not observe to do all the words of this law - ye shall be left few in number, whereas ye were as the stars of heaven for multitude"Deu 28:58, Deu 28:62. A sentence, felt the more by Ephraim, as being the head of the most powerful division of the people, and himself the largest portion of it.
Yea - (literally, "for") woe also unto them, when I depart from them This is, at once, the ground and the completion of their misery, its beginning and its end. God’ s departure was the source of all evil to them; as He foretold them, "I will forsake them, and I will hide My face from them, and they shall be devoured, and many evils and troubles shall befall them, so that they shall say in that day, Are not these evils come upon us, because our God is not among us?"Deu 31:17. But His departure was itself above all. For the prophet says also; "for woe also unto them."This was the last step in the scale of misery. Beyond the loss of the children, whom they hoped or longed for, beyond the loss of their present might, and all their hope to come, there is a further undefined, unlimited, evil, "woe to them also,"when God should "withdraw,"not His care and providence only, but Himself also from them; "when I depart from them."They had "departed"and turned away, from or "against"God (see the note at Hos 7:13). It had been their characteristic Hos 4:16. Now God Himself would requite them, as they had requited Him. He would depart from them. This is the last state of privation, which forms the "punishment of loss"in Hell. When the soul has lost God, what has it?
Poole -> Hos 9:12
Poole: Hos 9:12 - -- Or suppose neither of these, but that their children live, grow up and come to some maturity, yet God, provoked by their sins, will deprive them of ...
Or suppose neither of these, but that their children live, grow up and come to some maturity, yet God, provoked by their sins, will deprive them of their children by famine; or by civil wars, which were long and bloody on each other; or by pestilence; or by captivity, and dispersing them among enemies, to whom they shall be slaves, and, as slaves, beget children not to themselves, but to their masters.
There shall not be a man left there shall be a total extirpation of them and their memory; or else, I will cut them off from among men, as the phrase will bear.
Woe also to them when I depart from them! to complete their misery, I will leave them, I will depart from them. It is sad to lose children, it is sadder to lose their God.
Haydock -> Hos 9:12
Haydock: Hos 9:12 - -- When. Septuagint Theodotion, "my flesh is taken from them," which Theodoret, Lyranus, &c., explain of the incarnation; but Aquila, &c., agree with t...
When. Septuagint Theodotion, "my flesh is taken from them," which Theodoret, Lyranus, &c., explain of the incarnation; but Aquila, &c., agree with the Vulgate which is more natural. (Calmet)
Gill -> Hos 9:12
Gill: Hos 9:12 - -- Though they bring up their children,.... Though this be the case of some, as to be conceived, carried in the womb to the full time, and be born, and b...
Though they bring up their children,.... Though this be the case of some, as to be conceived, carried in the womb to the full time, and be born, and brought up to a more adult age, and appear very promising to live, and perpetuate the names of their fathers and their families:
yet will I bereave them; their parents of them, by the sword, famine, pestilence, or by carrying them captive into a foreign country:
that there shall not be a man left; in the whole land of Israel, but all shall be destroyed, or carried captive; or, "from men" i; that is, either from being men, as the Targum; though they are brought up to some ripeness, and a more adult age than others, yet arrive not to such a time and age as to be called men, as Kimchi observes; or from being among men, being either taken away by death, or removed from the society of men to live among beasts, and to he slaves like them:
yea, woe also to them, when I depart from them; withdraw my presence, favour, and protection from them; or remove my Shechinah from them, as the Targum; and leave them to the spoil and cruelty of their enemies, which would be a greater calamity and judgment than the former. The Septuagint, and so Theodotion, render it, "woe is to them, my flesh is of them"; which some of the ancients interpret of the incarnation of Christ, not considering that the words are spoken of Ephraim, or the ten tribes; whereas the Messiah was to spring, and did, from the family of David, and tribe of Judah.
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TSK Synopsis -> Hos 9:1-17
MHCC -> Hos 9:11-17
MHCC: Hos 9:11-17 - --God departs from a people, or from a person, when he withdraws his goodness and mercy from them; and when the Lord is departed, what can the creature ...
Matthew Henry -> Hos 9:11-17
Matthew Henry: Hos 9:11-17 - -- In the foregoing verses we saw the sin of Israel derived from their fathers; here we see the punishment of Israel derived to their children; for, as...
Keil-Delitzsch -> Hos 9:11-12
Keil-Delitzsch: Hos 9:11-12 - --
It is very evident that this is what he has in his mind, and that he regards the apostasy of the ten tribes as merely a continuation of that particu...
Constable: Hos 6:4--11:12 - --V. The fourth series of messages on judgment and restoration: Israel's ingratitude 6:4--11:11
This section of th...
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Constable: Hos 6:4--11:8 - --A. More messages on coming judgment 6:4-11:7
The subject of Israel's ingratitude is particularly promine...
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Constable: Hos 9:1--11:8 - --2. Israel's inevitable judgment 9:1-11:7
This section of prophecies continues to record accusati...
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Constable: Hos 9:10-17 - --Israel's humiliation 9:10-17
This section is one in a series that looks back on Israel's...
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