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8:1 The Ephraimites said to him, “Why have you done such a thing to us? You did not summon us when you went to fight the Midianites!” They argued vehemently with him. 8:2 He said to them, “Now what have I accomplished compared to you? Even Ephraim’s leftover grapes are better quality than Abiezer’s harvest! 8:3 It was to you that God handed over the Midianite generals, Oreb and Zeeb! What did I accomplish to rival that?” When he said this, they calmed down.
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Names, People and Places, Dictionary Themes and Topics

Names, People and Places:
 · Abiezer son of Ammishaddai; Moses' officer over the tribe of Dan,son of Shemaah of Gibeah; chief of Benjamite defecters to David
 · Ephraim the tribe of Ephraim as a whole,the northern kingdom of Israel
 · Midian resident(s) of the region of Midian
 · Oreb a prince of Midian in the time of Gideon,a place; a noted rock
 · Zeeb a prince of Midian in the time of Gideon


Dictionary Themes and Topics: Zebah | WOLF | VINE | Tact | Penuel | Oppression | OREB; ZEEB | Midianites | Judge | JUDGES, PERIOD OF | Israel | HOLY SPIRIT, 1 | God | Gideon | Flattery | EPHRAIM (1) | CHIDE | BLINDNESS, JUDICIAL | Abieezer | ABATE | more
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Wesley , JFB , Clarke , TSK

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NET Notes , Geneva Bible

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TSK Synopsis , MHCC , Matthew Henry , Keil-Delitzsch , Constable , Guzik

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Commentary -- Word/Phrase Notes (per phrase)

Wesley: Jdg 8:1 - -- _Why hast thou neglected and despised us, in not calling us in to thy help, as thou didst other tribes? These were a proud people, puffed up with a co...

_Why hast thou neglected and despised us, in not calling us in to thy help, as thou didst other tribes? These were a proud people, puffed up with a conceit of their number and strength, and the preference which Jacob gave them above Manasseh, of which tribe Gideon was, who by this act had seemed to advance his own tribe, and to depress theirs.

Wesley: Jdg 8:2 - -- _What I have done in cutting off some of the common soldiers, is not to be compared with your destroying their princes; I began the war, but you have ...

_What I have done in cutting off some of the common soldiers, is not to be compared with your destroying their princes; I began the war, but you have finished.

Wesley: Jdg 8:2 - -- What you have gleaned or done after me, Of Abiezer - That is, of the Abiezrites, to whom he modestly communicates the honour of the victory, and does ...

What you have gleaned or done after me, Of Abiezer - That is, of the Abiezrites, to whom he modestly communicates the honour of the victory, and does not arrogate it to himself.

Wesley: Jdg 8:3 - -- His soft and humble answer allayed their rage.

His soft and humble answer allayed their rage.

JFB: Jdg 8:1 - -- Where this complaint was made, whether before or after the crossing of the Jordan, cannot be determined. By the overthrow of the national enemy, the E...

Where this complaint was made, whether before or after the crossing of the Jordan, cannot be determined. By the overthrow of the national enemy, the Ephraimites were benefited as largely as any of the other neighboring tribes. But, piqued at not having been sharers in the glory of the victory, their leading men could not repress their wounded pride; and the occasion only served to bring out an old and deep-seated feeling of jealous rivalry that subsisted between the tribes (Isa 9:21). The discontent was groundless, for Gideon acted according to divine directions. Besides, as their tribe was conterminous with that of Gideon, they might, had they been really fired with the flame of patriotic zeal, have volunteered their services in a movement against the common enemy.

JFB: Jdg 8:2-3 - -- His mild and truly modest answer breathes the spirit of a great as well as good man, who was calm, collected, and self-possessed in the midst of most ...

His mild and truly modest answer breathes the spirit of a great as well as good man, who was calm, collected, and self-possessed in the midst of most exciting scenes. It succeeded in throwing oil on the troubled waters (Pro 16:1), and no wonder, for in the height of generous self-denial, it ascribes to his querulous brethren a greater share of merit and glory than belonged to himself (1Co 13:4; Phi 2:3).

Clarke: Jdg 8:1 - -- The men of Ephraim said - This account is no doubt displaced; for what is mentioned here could not have taken place till the return of Gideon from t...

The men of Ephraim said - This account is no doubt displaced; for what is mentioned here could not have taken place till the return of Gideon from the pursuit of the Midianites; for he had not yet passed Jordan, Jdg 8:4. And it was when he was beyond that river that the Ephraimites brought the heads of Oreb and Zeeb to him, Jdg 7:25.

Clarke: Jdg 8:2 - -- Is not the gleaning, etc. - That is, The Ephraimites have performed more important services than Gideon and his men; and he supports the assertion b...

Is not the gleaning, etc. - That is, The Ephraimites have performed more important services than Gideon and his men; and he supports the assertion by observing that it was they who took the two Midianitish generals, having discomfited their hosts at the passes of Jordan.

Clarke: Jdg 8:3 - -- Then their anger was abated - A soft answer turneth away wrath. He might have said that he could place but little dependence on his brethren when, t...

Then their anger was abated - A soft answer turneth away wrath. He might have said that he could place but little dependence on his brethren when, through faint-heartedness, 22,000 left him at one time; but he passed this by, and took a more excellent way.

TSK: Jdg 8:1 - -- the men : Jdg 12:1-6; 2Sa 19:41; Job 5:2; Ecc 4:4; Jam 4:5, Jam 4:6 Why : etc. Heb. What thing is this thou hast done unto us, sharply. Heb. strongly...

the men : Jdg 12:1-6; 2Sa 19:41; Job 5:2; Ecc 4:4; Jam 4:5, Jam 4:6

Why : etc. Heb. What thing is this thou hast done unto us, sharply. Heb. strongly.

TSK: Jdg 8:2 - -- What : 1Co 13:4-7; Gal 5:14, Gal 5:15; Phi 2:2, Phi 2:3; Jam 1:19, Jam 1:20, Jam 3:13-18 Is not the : That is, the Ephraimites have performed more imp...

What : 1Co 13:4-7; Gal 5:14, Gal 5:15; Phi 2:2, Phi 2:3; Jam 1:19, Jam 1:20, Jam 3:13-18

Is not the : That is, the Ephraimites have performed more important services than Gideon and his men had achieved.

Abiezer : Jdg 6:11, Jdg 6:34

TSK: Jdg 8:3 - -- God : Jdg 7:24, Jdg 7:25; Psa 44:3, Psa 115:1, Psa 118:14-16; Joh 4:37; Rom 12:3, Rom 12:6, Rom 15:18, Rom 15:19; Phi 2:3 Then : Pro 15:1, Pro 16:32, ...

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Commentary -- Word/Phrase Notes (per Verse)

Barnes: Jdg 8:1 - -- The success of Gideon’ s enterprise mortified the pride of Ephraim, as the chief tribe, seeing that they had played a subordinate part. Compare...

The success of Gideon’ s enterprise mortified the pride of Ephraim, as the chief tribe, seeing that they had played a subordinate part. Compare Jdg 12:1.

Barnes: Jdg 8:2 - -- A civil war with the great tribe of Ephraim would soon have turned Israel’ s victory into mourning. Gideon therefore soothes their wounded prid...

A civil war with the great tribe of Ephraim would soon have turned Israel’ s victory into mourning. Gideon therefore soothes their wounded pride by confessing that Ephraim had done more, though they had joined him so late in the day, than he had been able to effect in the whole campaign. The grape-gleaning of Ephraim was better than the whole vintage of Abi-ezer.

Poole: Jdg 8:2 - -- What was done was done by God’ s immediate making them one to kill another; what I have done, in cutting off some of the fugitive common soldie...

What was done was done by God’ s immediate making them one to kill another; what I have done, in cutting off some of the fugitive common soldiers, is not to be compared with your exploit in destroying their princes; I began the war, but you have finished.

The gleaning of the grapes of Ephraim what you have gleaned or done after me.

Of Abi-ezer , i.e. of the Abi-ezrites , to whom he modestly communicateth the honour of the victory, and doth not arrogate it to himself, as generals commonly do.

Poole: Jdg 8:3 - -- His soft and humble answer allayed their rage and envy. See Pro 15:1 25:15 .

His soft and humble answer allayed their rage and envy. See Pro 15:1 25:15 .

Haydock: Jdg 8:1 - -- Ephraim. The valour and insolence of these men are placed together. Afterwards we have an account of the transactions of Gedeon in the pursuit, ver...

Ephraim. The valour and insolence of these men are placed together. Afterwards we have an account of the transactions of Gedeon in the pursuit, ver. 4. (Haydock) ---

The tribe of Ephraim seems to have had some grounds for being displeased at not being summoned at first, as well as the tribes of Aser, &c., which were farther off; particularly as they sprang from Joseph, no less than Manasses, and had their portion in common. The general answers them with great respect, as otherwise their displeasure might have had very pernicious consequences. (Calmet)

Haydock: Jdg 8:2 - -- What could I, &c. A meek and humble answer appeased them; who otherwise might have come to extremities. So great is the power of humility both with...

What could I, &c. A meek and humble answer appeased them; who otherwise might have come to extremities. So great is the power of humility both with God and man. (Challoner) (Proverbs xv. 1.) ---

Could. Hebrew and Septuagint, "What have I yet done like you? (Menochius) ---

Is not the gleaning?" &c. I only commenced the war; you have brought it to a happy termination, by killing the princes of the enemy. (Debrio adag. 157.) At the first siege of Troy, Telamon having entered the city before Hercules, the latter was on the point of killing him, when Telamon, collecting a heap of stones, which he said he intended for an altar in honour of "the victorious Hercules," the hero's fury was appeased. (Apol. Bibl. ii. 6.)

Gill: Jdg 8:1 - -- And the men of Ephraim said unto him,.... To Gideon, when they brought him the heads of Oreb and Zeeb; taking this to be a proper opportunity to expos...

And the men of Ephraim said unto him,.... To Gideon, when they brought him the heads of Oreb and Zeeb; taking this to be a proper opportunity to expostulate and chide with him, when they had done so much service:

why hast thou served us thus; neglected them, overlooked them, which they took as a reproach to them, and as if he had bore them ill will:

that thou calledst us not when thou wentest to fight with the Midianites? that he did not call them first, when he called other tribes, as Asher, Zebulun, and Naphtali, when they were as near or nearer, and more nearly allied, being both the descendants of Joseph; and were the tribe that Jacob had given the preference to; and being of proud spirits they envied the glory that Gideon, who was of the tribe of Manasseh, had got; and by which they were jealous he would advance that tribe above theirs:

and they did chide with him sharply; used rough words and ill language, and threw out many keen and biting expressions, which discovered great anger and wrath, envy and ill will.

Gill: Jdg 8:2 - -- And he said unto them,.... In a very mild and gentle manner, giving soft words, which turn away wrath: what have I done in comparison of you? he an...

And he said unto them,.... In a very mild and gentle manner, giving soft words, which turn away wrath:

what have I done in comparison of you? he and his men, he signifies, had only blew trumpets, broke pitchers, and held torches; it was the Lord that did all, and set the Midianites one against another to slay each other; and in the pursuit as yet he had only picked up and slain some common soldiers, they had taken two princes of Midian, Oreb and Zeeb, and had brought their heads in triumph to him:

is not the gleaning of the grapes of Ephraim better than the vintage of Abiezer? the family of Abiezer, of which Gideon was; the meaning is, that whereas he began the fight, which may be called the vintage, and they had finished it, which was like gleaning; yet what they did last was much preferable to what was done by him at first; or the princes of Midian, which they had taken in the pursuit, and was like gleaning after a vintage, were equal, yea, superior to all the camp of Midian, or that part of it that had fallen into his hands. The Targum is,"are not the weak of the house of Ephraim better than the strong of the house of Abiezer?''

Gill: Jdg 8:3 - -- God hath delivered into your hands the princes of Midian, Oreb and Zeeb,.... A high honour this conferred upon you, and with which you may be well con...

God hath delivered into your hands the princes of Midian, Oreb and Zeeb,.... A high honour this conferred upon you, and with which you may be well contented:

and what was I able to do in comparison of you? what he had done in defeating and pursuing the army of Midian, in slaying and taking any of them prisoners, was nothing in comparison of what they had done; nay, he signifies that he was not capable of doing anything worth mentioning without them; the glory of finishing this conquest was reserved for them:

then their anger was abated towards him when he had said that; it being what gratified their pride and was pleasing to them; and this conduct of Gideon showed him to be a wise and humble man.

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Commentary -- Verse Notes / Footnotes

NET Notes: Jdg 8:1 Heb “by not summoning us.”

NET Notes: Jdg 8:2 Ephraim’s leftover grapes are better quality than Abiezer’s harvest. Gideon employs an agricultural metaphor. He argues that Ephraim’...

NET Notes: Jdg 8:3 Heb “Then their spirits relaxed from against him, when he spoke this word.”

Geneva Bible: Jdg 8:1 And the men of Ephraim said unto him, ( a ) Why hast thou served us thus, that thou calledst us not, when thou wentest to fight with the Midianites? A...

Geneva Bible: Jdg 8:2 And he said unto them, What have I done now in comparison of ( b ) you? [Is] not the ( c ) gleaning of the grapes of Ephraim better than the vintage o...

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Commentary -- Verse Range Notes

TSK Synopsis: Jdg 8:1-35 - --1 Gideon pacifies the Ephraimites.4 Succoth and Penuel refuse to deliver Gideon's army.10 Zebah and Zalmunna are taken.13 Succoth and Penuel are destr...

MHCC: Jdg 8:1-3 - --Those who will not attempt or venture any thing in the cause of God, will be the most ready to censure and quarrel with such as are of a more zealous ...

Matthew Henry: Jdg 8:1-3 - -- No sooner were the Midianites, the common enemy, subdued, than, through the violence of some hot spirits, the children of Israel were ready to quarr...

Keil-Delitzsch: Jdg 8:1-3 - -- When the Ephraimites met with Gideon, after they had smitten the Midianites at Oreb and Zeeb, and were pursuing them farther, they said to him, " Wh...

Constable: Jdg 3:7--17:1 - --II. THE RECORD OF ISRAEL'S APOSTASY 3:7--16:31   ...

Constable: Jdg 6:1--10:6 - --D. The fourth apostasy 6:1-10:5 The writer of Judges structured this book so the story of Gideon would b...

Constable: Jdg 6:1--8:33 - --1. The story of Gideon 6:1-8:32 Tanner also pointed out that the Gideon narrative consists of fi...

Constable: Jdg 8:1-3 - --The resentment of the Ephraimites 8:1-3 Gideon had not invited the men of Ephrai...

Constable: Jdg 8:1--16:31 - --B. Present Failures vv. 8-16 Jude next expounded the errors of the false teachers in his day to warn his...

Constable: Jdg 8:1--9:57 - --1. The nature of the error vv. 8-9 v. 8 Jude now pinpointed the three errors he had just illustrated and accused the false teachers of all three: lust...

Guzik: Jdg 8:1-35 - --Judges 8 - Pursuing After Midian A. Gideon battles Midianite kings and contentious Israelites. 1. (1-3) Ephraim's complaint and Gideon's answer. N...

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Introduction / Outline

JFB: Judges (Book Introduction) JUDGES is the title given to the next book, from its containing the history of those non-regal rulers who governed the Hebrews from the time of Joshua...

JFB: Judges (Outline) THE ACTS OF JUDAH AND SIMEON. (Jdg 1:1-3) ADONI-BEZEK JUSTLY REQUITED. (Jdg. 1:4-21) SOME CANAANITES LEFT. (Jdg 1:22-26) AN ANGEL SENT TO REBUKE THE ...

TSK: Judges (Book Introduction) The book of Judges forms an important link in the history of the Israelites. It furnishes us with a lively description of a fluctuating and unsettled...

TSK: Judges 8 (Chapter Introduction) Overview Jdg 8:1, Gideon pacifies the Ephraimites; Jdg 8:4, Succoth and Penuel refuse to deliver Gideon’s army; Jdg 8:10, Zebah and Zalmunna are...

Poole: Judges (Book Introduction) BOOK OF JUDGES THE ARGUMENT THE author of this book is not certainly known, whether it was Samuel, or Ezra, or some other prophet; nor is it mate...

Poole: Judges 8 (Chapter Introduction) CHAPTER 8 The Ephraimites are displeased with Gideon; he satisfies them, Jud 8:1-3 . He pursueth two kings of the Midianites he punisheth those of ...

MHCC: Judges (Book Introduction) The book of Judges is the history of Israel during the government of the Judges, who were occasional deliverers, raised up by God to rescue Israel fro...

MHCC: Judges 8 (Chapter Introduction) (Jdg 8:1-3) Gideon pacifies the Ephraimites. (Jdg 8:4-12) Succoth and Penuel refuse to relieve Gideon. (Jdg 8:13-17) Succoth and Penuel punished. (...

Matthew Henry: Judges (Book Introduction) An Exposition, with Practical Observations, of The Book of Judges This is called the Hebrew Shepher Shophtim , the Book of Judges, which the Syria...

Matthew Henry: Judges 8 (Chapter Introduction) This chapter gives us a further account of Gideon's victory over the Midianites, with the residue of the story of his life and government. I. Gide...

Constable: Judges (Book Introduction) Introduction Title The English title, Judges, comes to us from the Latin translation (...

Constable: Judges (Outline) Outline I. The reason for Israel's apostasy 1:1-3:6 A. Hostilities between the Israelites an...

Constable: Judges Judges Bibliography Aharoni, Yohanan. Land of the Bible. Phildelphia: Westminster Press, 1962. ...

Haydock: Judges (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION. THE BOOK OF JUDGES. This Book is called Judges, because it contains the history of what passed under the government of the judge...

Gill: Judges (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO JUDGES The title of this book in the Hebrew copies is Sepher Shophetim, the Book of Judges; but the Syriac and Arabic interpreters ...

Gill: Judges 8 (Chapter Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO JUDGES 8 In this chapter we are told how Gideon pacified the Ephraimites, who complained because they were not sent unto to fight t...

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