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Text -- Judges 8:16 (NET)

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8:16 He seized the leaders of the city, along with some desert thorns and briers; he then “threshed” the men of Succoth with them.
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Names, People and Places:
 · Succoth a place where the Israelites camped as they left Egypt,a town of Gad in the Jordan Valley opposite Shechem


Dictionary Themes and Topics: Zebah | Zalmunna | Zalmua | ZEBAH AND ZALMUNNA | THORN IN THE FLESH | Succoth | SUCCOTH (1) | Retaliation | Penuel | Patriotism | PUNISHMENTS | Oppression | Midianites | Judge | Israel | Government | God | Gideon | ELDER IN THE OLD TESTAMENT | EDEN | more
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TSK Synopsis , MHCC , Matthew Henry , Keil-Delitzsch , Constable , Guzik

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Commentary -- Word/Phrase Notes (per phrase)

JFB: Jdg 8:16 - -- By refusing his soldiers refreshment, they had committed a public crime, as well as an act of inhumanity, and were subjected to a horrible punishment,...

By refusing his soldiers refreshment, they had committed a public crime, as well as an act of inhumanity, and were subjected to a horrible punishment, which the great abundance and remarkable size of the thorn bushes, together with the thinness of clothing in the East, has probably suggested.

Clarke: Jdg 8:16 - -- He taught the men of Succoth - Instead of וידע he taught, Houbigant reads וידש he tore; and this is not only agreeable to what Gideon ha...

He taught the men of Succoth - Instead of וידע he taught, Houbigant reads וידש he tore; and this is not only agreeable to what Gideon had threatened, Jdg 8:7, but is supported by the Vulgate, Septuagint, Chaldee, Syriac, and Arabic. The Hebrew text might have been easily corrupted in this place by the change of ש shin into ע ain , letters very similar to each other.

TSK: Jdg 8:16 - -- the elders : Jdg 8:7; Pro 10:13, Pro 19:29; Ezr 2:6 thorns : Mic 7:4 taught : Heb. made to know, Instead of wyyoda , Houbigant, Lev. Clerc, and othe...

the elders : Jdg 8:7; Pro 10:13, Pro 19:29; Ezr 2:6

thorns : Mic 7:4

taught : Heb. made to know, Instead of wyyoda , Houbigant, Lev. Clerc, and others read wyyadosh , ""and he tore or threshed;""and this is not only agreeable to what Gideon threatened (Jdg 8:7), but is supported by the LXX Vulgate, Chaldee, Syriac, and Arabic. The Hebrew Text might easily have been corrupted simply by the change of , shin , into ע , ayin , letters very similar to each other.

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Commentary -- Word/Phrase Notes (per Verse)

Barnes: Jdg 8:16 - -- He taught - Thought to be a false reading, for "he threshed,"as in Jdg 8:7 margin.

He taught - Thought to be a false reading, for "he threshed,"as in Jdg 8:7 margin.

Poole: Jdg 8:16 - -- By that severe punishment (of which Jud 8:7 ) he made the men, i.e. the elders of Succoth, to know their sin and folly, though it was too late for t...

By that severe punishment (of which Jud 8:7 ) he made the men, i.e. the elders of Succoth, to know their sin and folly, though it was too late for their good, but not for the instruction and warning of others.

Haydock: Jdg 8:16 - -- Tore. Hebrew seems to be corrupted in this place. "And he shewed (instructed or chastised) with these thorns." The Septuagint and Vulgate read t...

Tore. Hebrew seems to be corrupted in this place. "And he shewed (instructed or chastised) with these thorns." The Septuagint and Vulgate read the same word as ver. 7. He crushed the people with such instruments as are used to beat out corn. It is probable that he only treated the magistrates of Soccoth and of Phanuel in this manner. (Calmet)

Gill: Jdg 8:16 - -- And he took the elders of the city,.... All of them, especially those of them who had been most guilty, and had them to a proper place, where they mig...

And he took the elders of the city,.... All of them, especially those of them who had been most guilty, and had them to a proper place, where they might be made public examples of:

and thorns of the wilderness, and briers; which were near at hand, and soon cut up, for which he gave orders to proper persons:

and with them he taught the men of Succoth; either the inhabitants of the place, as distinct from the elders, whose punishment he taught them to be cautious not to follow such examples, or to behave ill to their superiors; or the princes and elders of the city are meant by the men of it, whom Gideon taught or chastised with thorns and briers; and so it is usual with us for a parent or master to say to his child or servant that has offended, I will "teach" you to do so or so, or to do otherwise, when he threatens to chastise: or "with them he made them to know" z; that is, their sin and the heinousness of it, by the punishment he inflicted on them. Abarbinel thinks the word "know" has the signification of mercy in it, as in Exo 2:25 in that he did not punish in general the men of that city, only the elders of it. The Targum is,"he broke upon them, or by them, the men of Succoth;''so Jarchi and others; that is, he broke the briers and thorns upon them, scourging them with them; or rather broke and tore their flesh by them: whether they died or no is not certain.

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Commentary -- Verse Notes / Footnotes

NET Notes: Jdg 8:16 The translation follows the reading of several ancient versions (LXX, the Syriac Peshitta, and Vulgate) in assuming the form וַי...

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Commentary -- Verse Range Notes

TSK Synopsis: Jdg 8:1-35 - --1 Gideon pacifies the Ephraimites.4 Succoth and Penuel refuse to deliver Gideon's army.10 Zebah and Zalmunna are taken.13 Succoth and Penuel are destr...

MHCC: Jdg 8:13-17 - --The active servants of the Lord meet with more dangerous opposition from false professors than from open enemies; but they must not care for the behav...

Matthew Henry: Jdg 8:4-17 - -- In these verses we have, I. Gideon, as a valiant general, pursuing the remaining Midianites, and bravely following his blow. A very great slaughter ...

Keil-Delitzsch: Jdg 8:13-21 - -- Punishment of the Towns of Succoth and Pnuel, and Execution of the Captures Kings of Midian. Jdg 8:13-14 Gideon returned victorious from the war...

Constable: Jdg 3:7--17:1 - --II. THE RECORD OF ISRAEL'S APOSTASY 3:7--16:31   ...

Constable: Jdg 6:1--10:6 - --D. The fourth apostasy 6:1-10:5 The writer of Judges structured this book so the story of Gideon would b...

Constable: Jdg 6:1--8:33 - --1. The story of Gideon 6:1-8:32 Tanner also pointed out that the Gideon narrative consists of fi...

Constable: Jdg 8:1--16:31 - --B. Present Failures vv. 8-16 Jude next expounded the errors of the false teachers in his day to warn his...

Constable: Jdg 8:1--9:57 - --1. The nature of the error vv. 8-9 v. 8 Jude now pinpointed the three errors he had just illustrated and accused the false teachers of all three: lust...

Constable: Jdg 8:13-17 - --The punishment of Succoth and Penuel 8:13-17 The ascent of Heres (v. 13) appears...

Guzik: Jdg 8:1-35 - --Judges 8 - Pursuing After Midian A. Gideon battles Midianite kings and contentious Israelites. 1. (1-3) Ephraim's complaint and Gideon's answer. N...

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Introduction / Outline

JFB: Judges (Book Introduction) JUDGES is the title given to the next book, from its containing the history of those non-regal rulers who governed the Hebrews from the time of Joshua...

JFB: Judges (Outline) THE ACTS OF JUDAH AND SIMEON. (Jdg 1:1-3) ADONI-BEZEK JUSTLY REQUITED. (Jdg. 1:4-21) SOME CANAANITES LEFT. (Jdg 1:22-26) AN ANGEL SENT TO REBUKE THE ...

TSK: Judges (Book Introduction) The book of Judges forms an important link in the history of the Israelites. It furnishes us with a lively description of a fluctuating and unsettled...

TSK: Judges 8 (Chapter Introduction) Overview Jdg 8:1, Gideon pacifies the Ephraimites; Jdg 8:4, Succoth and Penuel refuse to deliver Gideon’s army; Jdg 8:10, Zebah and Zalmunna are...

Poole: Judges (Book Introduction) BOOK OF JUDGES THE ARGUMENT THE author of this book is not certainly known, whether it was Samuel, or Ezra, or some other prophet; nor is it mate...

Poole: Judges 8 (Chapter Introduction) CHAPTER 8 The Ephraimites are displeased with Gideon; he satisfies them, Jud 8:1-3 . He pursueth two kings of the Midianites he punisheth those of ...

MHCC: Judges (Book Introduction) The book of Judges is the history of Israel during the government of the Judges, who were occasional deliverers, raised up by God to rescue Israel fro...

MHCC: Judges 8 (Chapter Introduction) (Jdg 8:1-3) Gideon pacifies the Ephraimites. (Jdg 8:4-12) Succoth and Penuel refuse to relieve Gideon. (Jdg 8:13-17) Succoth and Penuel punished. (...

Matthew Henry: Judges (Book Introduction) An Exposition, with Practical Observations, of The Book of Judges This is called the Hebrew Shepher Shophtim , the Book of Judges, which the Syria...

Matthew Henry: Judges 8 (Chapter Introduction) This chapter gives us a further account of Gideon's victory over the Midianites, with the residue of the story of his life and government. I. Gide...

Constable: Judges (Book Introduction) Introduction Title The English title, Judges, comes to us from the Latin translation (...

Constable: Judges (Outline) Outline I. The reason for Israel's apostasy 1:1-3:6 A. Hostilities between the Israelites an...

Constable: Judges Judges Bibliography Aharoni, Yohanan. Land of the Bible. Phildelphia: Westminster Press, 1962. ...

Haydock: Judges (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION. THE BOOK OF JUDGES. This Book is called Judges, because it contains the history of what passed under the government of the judge...

Gill: Judges (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO JUDGES The title of this book in the Hebrew copies is Sepher Shophetim, the Book of Judges; but the Syriac and Arabic interpreters ...

Gill: Judges 8 (Chapter Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO JUDGES 8 In this chapter we are told how Gideon pacified the Ephraimites, who complained because they were not sent unto to fight t...

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