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Text -- Jeremiah 8:4 (NET)

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Willful Disregard of God Will Lead to Destruction
8:4 The Lord said to me, “Tell them, ‘The Lord says, Do people not get back up when they fall down? Do they not turn around when they go the wrong way?
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Commentary -- Word/Phrase Notes (per phrase)

Wesley: Jer 8:4 - -- Will they never think of rising again? Not return - Will he wander for ever?

Will they never think of rising again? Not return - Will he wander for ever?

JFB: Jer 8:4 - -- "Is it not a natural instinct, that if one falls, he rises again; if one turns away (that is, wanders from the way), he will return to the point from ...

"Is it not a natural instinct, that if one falls, he rises again; if one turns away (that is, wanders from the way), he will return to the point from which he wandered? Why then does not Jerusalem do so?" He plays on the double sense of return; literal and metaphorical (Jer 3:12; Jer 4:1).

Clarke: Jer 8:4 - -- Moreover thou shalt say - Dr. Blayney very properly observes, "In that part of the prophecy which follows next, the difference of speakers requires ...

Moreover thou shalt say - Dr. Blayney very properly observes, "In that part of the prophecy which follows next, the difference of speakers requires to be attended to; the transition being quick and sudden, but full of life and energy. The prophet at first, in the name of God, reproves the people’ s incorrigibility; he charges their wise ones with folly, and threatens them with grievous calamities, Jer 8:4-13. In the three next verses he seems to apostrophize his countrymen in his own person, and as one of the people that dwelt in the open towns, advising those that were in the like situation to retire with him into some of the fortified cities, and there wait the event with patience, since there was nothing but terror abroad, and the noise of the enemy, who had already begun to ravage the country, Jer 8:14-16. God speaks, Jer 8:17, and threatens to bring foes against them that should be irresistible. The prophet appears again in his own person, commiserating the daughter of his people, who is heard bewailing her forlorn case in a distant land; while the voice of God, like that of conscience, breaks in upon her complaints, and shows her that all this ruin is brought upon her by her own infidelities, Jer 8:18-20. The prophet once more resumes his discourse; he regrets that no remedy can be found to close up the wounds of his country, and pathetically weeps over the number of her slain, Jer 8:21, Jer 9:1.

Clarke: Jer 8:4 - -- Shall they fall, and not arise? shall he turn away, and not return? - That is, It is as possible for sinners to return from their sin to God, for hi...

Shall they fall, and not arise? shall he turn away, and not return? - That is, It is as possible for sinners to return from their sin to God, for his grace is ever at hand to assist, as it is for God, who is pouring out his judgments, to return to them on their return to him. But these held fast deceit, and refused to return; they would not be undeceived.

Calvin: Jer 8:4 - -- Though God had reminded his Prophet of the event, yet he still invites the Jews to repentance; not that there was any hope of restoring them to a rig...

Though God had reminded his Prophet of the event, yet he still invites the Jews to repentance; not that there was any hope of restoring them to a right mind, (for he had said that they were wholly irreclaimable,) but that their perverseness might be less excusable; and it was also his object to afford some relief to the small number of the godly who still remained; for they had not all fallen away into impiety, though the great body of the people had become corrupt. God then, partly to aggravate the sin of the ungodly, and partly to provide for his faithful people, exhorts those to repentance, who were yet wholly intractable. And here we ought to consider that God’s goodness, when abused, brings a much heavier judgment. God does here in a manner contend with the wickedness of his people, by setting before them the hope of pardon, if they repented.

Thou shalt then say to them; that is, “Though I have already testified to thee that thy labor would be in vain, yet thou shalt not give over thy work.” Shall they who have fallen rise again? This sentence is variously explained; the greater part of interpreters confine it to the Jews only, “Shall the Jews who have fallen rise again?” As to the second clause, some give this explanation, “If Israel returns, will not God also return?” that is, from his wrath, or, “Will he not be propitious?” Or, “If Israel turns away, will not God also turn away?” Others understand both parts of the sentence of the people, “If the people have once turned away, will they not yet return to God?” For the verb שוב , shub, has contrary meanings; it means, to fall away, to rebel, to go back; and it means also to return. But after having maturely considered the words and the design of the Prophet, I think it to be a general statement, as though he had said, “When any one falls, he immediately thinks of recovering his fall; when any one deviates from the right course, being warned of his going astray, he immediately looks for the road. This is what is usually done, what then means this so great a stupidity, that the people of Jerusalem do not repent, when yet they ought to have long ago acknowledged their fall and their wanderings?”

TSK: Jer 8:4 - -- Moreover : Blayney justly observes, that the change of speakers here requires to be carefully attended to. The prophet first, in the name of God, rep...

Moreover : Blayney justly observes, that the change of speakers here requires to be carefully attended to. The prophet first, in the name of God, reproves the people, and threatens them with grievous calamities, Jer 8:4-13. Then, apostrophising his countrymen, he advises them to retire with him to some fortified city, Jer 8:14-16. God then threatens to bring foes against them, that are irresistible, Jer 8:17. The prophet next commiserates the daughter of his people, who is heard bewailing her forlorn case; whilst the voice of God breaks in upon her complaints, and shows that all this ruin is brought upon her by her infidelities, Jer 8:18-20. The prophet regrets that her wounds had not been healed, and laments over her slain, Jer 8:21; Jer 9:1.

Shall they : Pro 24:16; Hos 14:1; Amo 5:2; Mic 7:8

turn : Jer 3:1, Jer 3:22, Jer 4:1, Jer 23:14, Jer 36:3; 1Ki 8:38; Isa 44:22, Isa 55:7; Eze 18:23; Hos 6:1, Hos 7:10

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Commentary -- Word/Phrase Notes (per Verse)

Barnes: Jer 8:4 - -- The prophet here resumes from Jer 7:28 the main subject of his prophecy. He again invites the Jews to repentance. Shall they fall? - The argum...

The prophet here resumes from Jer 7:28 the main subject of his prophecy. He again invites the Jews to repentance.

Shall they fall? - The argument is that when men fall, they do not lie upon the ground, but endeavor to get up again: and when a man loses his way, he does not persist in going on, but turns round, and retraces his steps. Israel then will be only following the dictates of comnon sense in desisting from that which she now knows to be her ruin.

Poole: Jer 8:4 - -- Moreover thou shalt say unto them though possibly it be all in vain, yet thou shalt keep in thy work. Shall they fall, and not arise? an interrogat...

Moreover thou shalt say unto them though possibly it be all in vain, yet thou shalt keep in thy work.

Shall they fall, and not arise? an interrogation that hath the force of a negative, i.e. surely none. Or, Will men, is there no hope? And are they upon this ground desperate? Or rather, Will men fall, and not arise? Are they such fools, that having fallen by their sins, and been foretold all that is coming, that they will not accept of a remedy? Jer 7:27 Hos 14:1 .

Shall he turn away, and not return? a metaphor taken from one that is out of his way; can any imagine that if one tell him of it, and direct him aright, that he will not hearken to him, and turn back? It is even against nature itself for a man not to seek his own good.

Haydock: Jer 8:4 - -- Again. Why then do not the people strive to repent?

Again. Why then do not the people strive to repent?

Gill: Jer 8:4 - -- Moreover, thou shalt say unto them,.... The Jews, in Jeremiah's time, in order to leave them inexcusable, though the Lord had before assured that they...

Moreover, thou shalt say unto them,.... The Jews, in Jeremiah's time, in order to leave them inexcusable, though the Lord had before assured that they would not hearken to him, Jer 7:27,

thus saith the Lord, shall they fall, and not rise? men, when they fall, endeavour to get up again, and generally they do:

shall he turn away, and not return? when a man turns out of the right way into a wrong one, as soon as he is sensible of his mistake, he returns back; this is usually done among men. This is generally the case in a natural sense, and might be expected in a moral sense; that whereas these people had fallen into sin, they would rise again by repentance; and, having turned from the good ways of God, would soon return again to them.

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Commentary -- Verse Notes / Footnotes

NET Notes: Jer 8:4 There is a play on two different nuances of the same Hebrew word that means “turn” and “return,” “turn away” and &...

Geneva Bible: Jer 8:4 Moreover thou shalt say to them, Thus saith the LORD; Shall they ( c ) fall, and not rise? shall he turn away, and not return? ( c ) Is there no hope...

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Commentary -- Verse Range Notes

TSK Synopsis: Jer 8:1-22 - --1 The calamity of the Jews, both dead and alive.4 He upbraids their foolish and shameless impenitency.13 He shews their grievous judgment;18 and bewai...

MHCC: Jer 8:4-13 - --What brought this ruin? 1. The people would not attend to reason; they would not act in the affairs of their souls with common prudence. Sin is backsl...

Matthew Henry: Jer 8:4-12 - -- The prophet here is instructed to set before this people the folly of their impenitence, which was it that brought this ruin upon them. They are her...

Keil-Delitzsch: Jer 8:4-7 - -- The People's Obstinacy in Wickedness, and the Dreadfulness of the Judgment. - Since the people cleaves stedfastly to its sin (Jer 8:4-13), the Lord ...

Constable: Jer 2:1--45:5 - --II. Prophecies about Judah chs. 2--45 The first series of prophetic announcements, reflections, and incidents th...

Constable: Jer 2:1--25:38 - --A. Warnings of judgment on Judah and Jerusalem chs. 2-25 Chapters 2-25 contain warnings and appeals to t...

Constable: Jer 7:1--10:25 - --2. Warnings about apostasy and its consequences chs. 7-10 This is another collection of Jeremiah...

Constable: Jer 7:1--8:4 - --Aspects of false religion 7:1-8:3 All the messages in this section deal with departure f...

Constable: Jer 8:4--11:1 - --Incorrigible Judah 8:4-10:25 The twin themes of Judah's stubborn rebellion and her inevi...

Constable: Jer 8:4-12 - --Blind complacency 8:4-12 8:4 The Lord commanded Jeremiah to ask the people if it was not normal for people to repent after sinning. After all, when so...

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Introduction / Outline

JFB: Jeremiah (Book Introduction) JEREMIAH, son of Hilkiah, one of the ordinary priests, dwelling in Anathoth of Benjamin (Jer 1:1), not the Hilkiah the high priest who discovered the ...

JFB: Jeremiah (Outline) EXPOSTULATION WITH THE JEWS, REMINDING THEM OF THEIR FORMER DEVOTEDNESS, AND GOD'S CONSEQUENT FAVOR, AND A DENUNCIATION OF GOD'S COMING JUDGMENTS FOR...

TSK: Jeremiah 8 (Chapter Introduction) Overview Jer 8:1, The calamity of the Jews, both dead and alive; Jer 8:4, He upbraids their foolish and shameless impenitency; Jer 8:13, He shews ...

Poole: Jeremiah (Book Introduction) BOOK OF THE PROPHET JEREMIAH THE ARGUMENT IT was the great unhappiness of this prophet to be a physician to, but that could not save, a dying sta...

Poole: Jeremiah 8 (Chapter Introduction) CHAPTER 8 The calamity of the Jews, both dead and alive, Jer 8:1-3 . Their brutish impenitency, Jer 8:4-7 : Their vain boast of wisdom; their covet...

MHCC: Jeremiah (Book Introduction) Jeremiah was a priest, a native of Anathoth, in the tribe of Benjamin. He was called to the prophetic office when very young, about seventy years afte...

MHCC: Jeremiah 8 (Chapter Introduction) (Jer 8:1-3) The remains of the dead exposed. (Jer 8:4-13) The stupidity of the people, compared with the instinct of the brute creation. (Jer 8:14-2...

Matthew Henry: Jeremiah (Book Introduction) An Exposition, with Practical Observations, of The Book of the Prophet Jeremiah The Prophecies of the Old Testament, as the Epistles of the New, are p...

Matthew Henry: Jeremiah 8 (Chapter Introduction) The prophet proceeds, in this chapter, both to magnify and to justify the destruction that God was bringing upon this people, to show how grievous ...

Constable: Jeremiah (Book Introduction) Introduction Title The title of this book derives from its writer, the late seventh an...

Constable: Jeremiah (Outline) Outline I. Introduction ch. 1 A. The introduction of Jeremiah 1:1-3 B. T...

Constable: Jeremiah Jeremiah Bibliography Aharoni, Yohanan, and Michael Avi-Yonah. The Macmillan Bible Atlas. Revised ed. London: C...

Haydock: Jeremiah (Book Introduction) THE PROPHECY OF JEREMIAS. INTRODUCTION. Jeremias was a priest, a native of Anathoth, a priestly city, in the tribe of Benjamin, and was sanct...

Gill: Jeremiah (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO JEREMIAH The title of the book in the Vulgate Latin version is, "the Prophecy of Jeremiah"; in the Syriac and Arabic versions, "the...

Gill: Jeremiah 8 (Chapter Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO JEREMIAH 8 In this chapter the prophet goes on to denounce grievous calamities upon the people of the Jews; such as would make deat...

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