
Text -- Job 11:1-9 (NET)




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Wesley: Job 11:1 - -- How hard is it, to preserve calmness, in the heat of disputation! Eliphaz began modestly: Bildad was a little rougher: But Zophar falls upon Job witho...
How hard is it, to preserve calmness, in the heat of disputation! Eliphaz began modestly: Bildad was a little rougher: But Zophar falls upon Job without mercy. "Those that have a mind to fall out with their brethren, and to fall foul upon them, find it necessary, to put the worst colours they can upon them and their performances, and right or wrong to make them odious."

Wesley: Job 11:2 - -- Truly, sometimes it should not. Silence is the best confutation of impertinence, and puts the greatest contempt upon it.
Truly, sometimes it should not. Silence is the best confutation of impertinence, and puts the greatest contempt upon it.

Wesley: Job 11:3 - -- Both concerning thy own innocency, and concerning the counsels and ways of God.
Both concerning thy own innocency, and concerning the counsels and ways of God.

Wesley: Job 11:4 - -- I am innocent before God; I have not sinned either by my former actions, or by my present expressions. But Zophar perverts Job's words, for he did not...
I am innocent before God; I have not sinned either by my former actions, or by my present expressions. But Zophar perverts Job's words, for he did not deny that he was a sinner, but only that he was an hypocrite.

Wesley: Job 11:5 - -- Plead with thee according to thy desire: he would soon put thee to silence. We are commonly ready with great assurance to interest God in our quarrels...
Plead with thee according to thy desire: he would soon put thee to silence. We are commonly ready with great assurance to interest God in our quarrels. But they are not always in the right, who are most forward, to appeal to his judgment, and prejudge it against their antagonists.

The unsearchable depths of God's wisdom in dealing with his creatures.

Wesley: Job 11:6 - -- That they are far greater (the word double being used indefinitely for manifold, or plentiful) than that which is manifested. The secret wisdom of God...
That they are far greater (the word double being used indefinitely for manifold, or plentiful) than that which is manifested. The secret wisdom of God is infinitely greater than that which is revealed to us by his word or works: the greatest part of what is known of God, is the least part of those perfections that are in him. And therefore thou dost rashly in judging so harshly of his proceedings with thee, because thou dost not comprehend the reasons of them, and in judging thyself innocent, because thou dost not see thy sins; whereas the all - knowing God sees innumerable sins in thee, for which he may utterly destroy thee.

Discover all the depths of his wisdom, and the reasons of his actions?
JFB: Job 11:3 - -- Rather, "vain boasting" (Isa 16:6; Jer 48:30). The "men" is emphatic; men of sense; in antithesis to "vain boasting."

Upbraidest God by complaints, "shall no man make thee ashamed?"

JFB: Job 11:4 - -- Purposely used of Job's speeches, which sounded like lessons of doctrine (Deu 32:2; Pro 4:2).

JFB: Job 11:4 - -- Addressed to God. Job had maintained his sincerity against his friends suspicions, not faultlessness.
Addressed to God. Job had maintained his sincerity against his friends suspicions, not faultlessness.

JFB: Job 11:6 - -- Rather, "they are double to [man's] wisdom" [MICHAELIS]. So the Hebrew is rendered (Pro 2:7). God's ways, which you arraign, if you were shown their s...

Rather, "God consigns to oblivion in thy favor much of thy guilt."


JFB: Job 11:8 - -- The "wisdom" of God (Job 11:6). The abruptness of the Hebrew is forcible: "The heights of heaven! What canst thou do" (as to attaining to them with th...
Clarke: Job 11:1 - -- Zophar the Naamathite - Of this man and his friends, see Job 2:11. He is the most inveterate of Job’ s accusers, and generally speaks without f...
Zophar the Naamathite - Of this man and his friends, see Job 2:11. He is the most inveterate of Job’ s accusers, and generally speaks without feeling or pity. In sour godliness he excelled all the rest. This chapter and the twentieth comprehends all that he said. He was too crooked to speak much in measured verse.

Clarke: Job 11:2 - -- Should not the multitude of words be answered? - Some translate, "To multiply words profiteth nothing.
Should not the multitude of words be answered? - Some translate, "To multiply words profiteth nothing.

Clarke: Job 11:2 - -- And should a man full of talk be justified - איש שפתים ish sephathayim , "a man of lips,"a proper appellation for a great talker: he is "a ...
And should a man full of talk be justified -

Clarke: Job 11:3 - -- Should thy lies make men hold their peace? - This is a very severe reproof, and not justified by the occasion
Should thy lies make men hold their peace? - This is a very severe reproof, and not justified by the occasion

Clarke: Job 11:3 - -- And when thou mockest - As thou despisest others, shall no man put thee to scorn? Zophar could never think that the solemn and awful manner in which...
And when thou mockest - As thou despisest others, shall no man put thee to scorn? Zophar could never think that the solemn and awful manner in which Job spoke could be called bubbling, as some would translate the term

Clarke: Job 11:4 - -- My doctrine is pure - לקחי likchi , "my assumptions."What I assume or take as right, and just, and true, are so; the precepts which I have form...
My doctrine is pure -

Clarke: Job 11:5 - -- But O that God would speak - How little feeling, humanity, and charity is there in this prayer!
But O that God would speak - How little feeling, humanity, and charity is there in this prayer!

Clarke: Job 11:6 - -- The secrets of wisdom - All the depths of his own counsels; the heights, lengths, and breadths, of holiness. That they are double to that which is, ...
The secrets of wisdom - All the depths of his own counsels; the heights, lengths, and breadths, of holiness. That they are double to that which is,

Clarke: Job 11:6 - -- Less than thine iniquity deserveth - Mr. Good translates, And the knowledge hath withdrawn from thee because of thy sins; and represents Zophar as p...
Less than thine iniquity deserveth - Mr. Good translates, And the knowledge hath withdrawn from thee because of thy sins; and represents Zophar as praying that God would reveal to him the secrets of wisdom, and the knowledge which he had withdrawn from him because of his transgressions. That Zophar intends to insinuate that God afflicted Job because of his iniquities, is evident; and that he thought that God had inflicted less chastisement upon him than his sins deserved, is not less so; and that, therefore, Job’ s complaining of harsh treatment was not at all well founded.

Clarke: Job 11:7 - -- Canst thou by searching find out God? - What is God? A Being self-existent, eternal, infinite, immense, without bounds, incomprehensible either by m...
Canst thou by searching find out God? - What is God? A Being self-existent, eternal, infinite, immense, without bounds, incomprehensible either by mind, or time, or space. Who then can find this Being out? Who can fathom his depths, ascend to his heights, extend to his breadths, and comprehend the infinitude of his perfections?

Clarke: Job 11:8 - -- It is as high as heaven - High as the heavens, what canst thou work? Deep below sheol, (the invisible world), what canst thou know? Long beyond the ...
It is as high as heaven - High as the heavens, what canst thou work? Deep below sheol, (the invisible world), what canst thou know? Long beyond the earth, and broad beyond the sea, is its measure. These are instances in the immensity of created things, and all out of the reach of human power and knowledge; and if these things are so, how incomprehensible must he be, who designed, created, preserves, and governs the whole
We find the same thought in Milton: -
"These are thy glorious works, Parent of good
Almighty! Thine this universal frame
How wondrous fair! Thyself how wondrous then!"
Defender: Job 11:7 - -- This rhetorical question by Zophar does at least indicate his realization that God was the infinite Creator, even though he had little understanding o...
This rhetorical question by Zophar does at least indicate his realization that God was the infinite Creator, even though he had little understanding of His grace and love."

Defender: Job 11:8 - -- Comparing the infinitude of God to heaven indicates that Zophar had a realistic concept of the magnitude of the universe. Some critics claim that the ...
Comparing the infinitude of God to heaven indicates that Zophar had a realistic concept of the magnitude of the universe. Some critics claim that the Bible teaches that the stars were affixed to a celestial dome of some kind, and this reference clearly shows otherwise."

TSK: Job 11:2 - -- the multitude : Job 16:3, Job 18:2; Psa 140:11; Pro 10:19; Act 17:18; Jam 1:19
full of talk : Heb. of lips

TSK: Job 11:3 - -- thy lies : or, thy devices, Job 13:4, Job 15:2, Job 15:3, Job 24:25
mockest : Job 12:4, Job 13:9, Job 17:2, Job 34:7; Psa 35:16; Jer 15:17; Jud 1:18
m...

TSK: Job 11:4 - -- For thou : Job 6:10, Job 10:7; 1Pe 3:15
I am clean : Job 6:29, Job 6:30, Job 7:20, Job 9:2, Job 9:3, Job 14:4, Job 34:5, Job 34:6, Job 35:2

TSK: Job 11:5 - -- Job 23:3-7, Job 31:35, Job 33:6-18, Job 38:1, Job 38:2, Job 40:1-5, Job 40:8, Job 42:7

TSK: Job 11:6 - -- show thee : Job 15:8, Job 15:11, Job 28:28; Deu 29:29; Psa 25:14; Dan 2:28, Dan 2:47; Mat 13:35; Rom 16:25, Rom 16:26; 1Co 2:9-11; Eph 3:5
God exactet...

TSK: Job 11:7 - -- Canst : Job 5:9, Job 26:14, Job 37:23; Psa 77:19, Psa 145:3; Ecc 3:11; Isa 40:28; Mat 11:27; Rom 11:33; 1Co 2:10, 1Co 2:16; Eph 3:8

TSK: Job 11:8 - -- It is as high as heaven : Heb. the heights of heaven, Job 22:12, Job 35:5; 2Ch 6:18; Psa 103:11, Psa 148:13; Pro 25:2, Pro 25:3; Isa 55:9
deeper : Job...
It is as high as heaven : Heb. the heights of heaven, Job 22:12, Job 35:5; 2Ch 6:18; Psa 103:11, Psa 148:13; Pro 25:2, Pro 25:3; Isa 55:9
deeper : Job 26:6; Psa 139:6-8; Amo 9:2; Eph 3:18, Eph 3:19

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Barnes: Job 11:2 - -- Should not the multitude of words be answered? - As if all that Job had said had been mere words; or as if he was remarkable for mere garrulity...
Should not the multitude of words be answered? - As if all that Job had said had been mere words; or as if he was remarkable for mere garrulity.
And should a man full of talk be justified - Margin, as in Hebrew "of lips."The phrase is evidently a Hebraism, to denote a great talker - a man of mere lips, or empty sound. Zophar asks whether such a man could be justified or vindicated. It will be recollected that taciturnity was with the Orientals a much greater virtue than with us, and that it was regarded as one of the proofs of wisdom. The wise man with them was he who sat down at the feet of age, and desired to learn; who carefully collected the maxims of former times; who diligently observed the course of events; and who deliberated with care on what others had to say. Thus, Solomon says, "In the multitude of words there wanteth not sin: but he that refraineth his lips is wise;"Pro 10:19; so Jam 1:19, "let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak."It was supposed that a man who said much would say some foolish or improper things, and hence, it was regarded as a proof of prudence to be distinguished for silence. In Oriental countries, and it may be added also, in all countries that we regard as uncivilized, it is unusual and disrespectful to be hasty in offering counsel, to be forward to speak, or to be confident and bold in opinion; see the notes at Job 32:6-7. It was for reasons such as these that Zophar maintained that a man who was full of talk could not be justified in it; that there was presumptive proof that he was not a safe man, or a man who could be vindicated in all that he said.

Barnes: Job 11:3 - -- Should thy lies - Margin, "devices."Rosenmuller renders this, "should men bear thy boastings with silence?"Dr. Good, "before thee would man-kin...
Should thy lies - Margin, "devices."Rosenmuller renders this, "should men bear thy boastings with silence?"Dr. Good, "before thee would man-kind keep silence?"Vulgate, "tibi soli tacebunt homines?""Shall men be silent before thee alone? The Septuagint tenders the whole passage, "he who speaketh much should also hear in turn; else the fine speaker (
And when thou mockest - That-is, "shalt thou be permitted to use the language of reproach and of complaint, and no one attempt to make thee sensible of its impropriety?"The complaints and arguments of Job he represented as in fact mocking God.
Shall no man make thee ashamed? - Shall no one show thee the impropriety of it, and bring thy mind to a sense of shame for what it has done? This was what Zophar now proposed to do.

Barnes: Job 11:4 - -- My doctrine is pure - The Septuagint instead of the word "doctrine"here reads "deeds," ἔργοις ergois ; the Syriac, "thou sayest...
My doctrine is pure - The Septuagint instead of the word "doctrine"here reads "deeds,"
And I am clean in thine eyes - In the eyes of God, or in his sight. This was a false charge. Job had never maintained that he was perfect (compare the notes at Job 9:20); he had only maintained that he was not such a sinner as his friends maintained that he was, a hypocrite, and a man eminent for guilt. His lack of absolute perfection he was ever ready to admit and mourn over.

Barnes: Job 11:5 - -- But oh that God would speak - Hebrew, "and truly, who will give that God should speak."It is the expression of an earnest wish that God would a...
But oh that God would speak - Hebrew, "and truly, who will give that God should speak."It is the expression of an earnest wish that God would address him, and bring him to a proper sense of his ill desert. The meaning is, that if God should speak to him he would by no means find himself so holy as he now claimed to be.

Barnes: Job 11:6 - -- And that he would show thee the secrets of wisdom - The hidden things that pertain to wisdom. The reference here is to the wisdom of God himsel...
And that he would show thee the secrets of wisdom - The hidden things that pertain to wisdom. The reference here is to the wisdom of God himself. The sense is this, "you now think yourself pure and holy. You have confidence in your own wisdom and integrity. But this apprehension is based on a short-sighted view of God, and on ignorance of him. If he would speak and show you his wisdom; if he would express his sense of what purity is, you would at once see how far you have come from perfection, and would be overwhelmed with a sense of your comparative vileness and sin."
That they are double to that which is - Noyes renders this,"his wisdom which is unsearchable."Dr. Good, strangely enough, "for they are intricacies to iniquity."The expression, as it stands in our common version, is not very intelligible; and indeed it is difficult, to attach any idea to it. Of the words used in the Hebrew, the sense is not difficult. The word
Know, therefore, that God exacteth of thee less than thine iniquity deserveth - The word here rendered "exacteth"(

Barnes: Job 11:7 - -- Canst then, by searching, find out God? - In order to illustrate the sentiment which he had just expressed, that the secrets of divine wisdom m...
Canst then, by searching, find out God? - In order to illustrate the sentiment which he had just expressed, that the secrets of divine wisdom must be far above our comprehension, Zophar introduces here this sublime description of God - a description which seems to have the form and force of a proverb. It seems to have been a settled opinion that man could not find out the Almighty to perfection by his own powers - a sentiment, which is as true now, as it was then, and which is of the utmost importance in all our inquiries about the Creator. The sentiment is expressed in a most beautiful manner; and the language itself is not unworthy of the theme. The word "searching,"

Barnes: Job 11:8 - -- It is as high as heaven - That is, the knowledge of God; or the subject is as high as heaven. The idea is, that man is incompetent to examine, ...
It is as high as heaven - That is, the knowledge of God; or the subject is as high as heaven. The idea is, that man is incompetent to examine, with accuracy, an object that is as far off as the heavens; and that as the knowledge of God must be of that character, it is vain for him to attempt to investigate it fully. There is an energy in the Hebrew which is lost in our common translation. The Hebrew is abrupt and very emphatic: "The heights of the heavens!"It is the language of one looking up with astonishment at the high heavens, and over-powered with the thought that the knowledge of God must be higher even than those distant skies. Who can hope to understand it? Who can be qualified to make the investigation? It is a matter of simple but sublime truth, that God must be higher than these heavens; and when we take into view the amazing distances of many of the heavenly bodies, as now known by the aid of modern astronomy, we may ask with deeper emphasis by far than Zophar did. "Can we, by searching, find out God?"
Deeper than hell - Hebrew "Than Sheol"-
If I ascend into heaven, thou art there;
If I make my bed in hell, behold thou art there.

Barnes: Job 11:9 - -- The measure thereof is longer than the earth - The measure of the knowledge of God. The extent of the earth would be one of the longest measure...
The measure thereof is longer than the earth - The measure of the knowledge of God. The extent of the earth would be one of the longest measures known to the ancients. Yet it is now impossible to ascertain what ideas were attached, in the time of Job, to the extent of the earth - and it is not necessary to know this in order to understand this expression. It is morally certain that the prevailing ideas were very limited, and that a small part of the earth was then known. The general belief seems to have been, that it was a vast plain, surrounded by water - but how supported, and what were its limits, were evidently matters to them unknown. The earliest knowledge which we have of geography, as understood by the Arabs, represents the earth as wholly encompassed by an ocean, like a zone. This was usually characterized as a "Sea of Darkness;"an appellation usually given to the Atlantic; while to the Northern Sea was given the name of "The Sea of Pitchy Darkness."Edrisi imagined the land to be floating in the sea, and only part appearing above, like an egg in a basin of water. If these views prevailed so late as the tenth and eleventh centuries of the Christian era, it is reasonable to conclude that the views of the figure and size of the earth must have been extremely limited in the time of Job. On the ancient views of geography, see the notes at Job 26:7-10, and the maps there, also Murray’ s Encyclopaedia of Geography, Book I, and Eschenberg’ s Manual of Classical Literature, by Prof. Fiske, Part I.
And broader than the sea - What was the idea of the breadth of the sea, which was supposed to surround the earth, it is now wholly impossible to determine. Probably there were no ideas on the subject that could be regarded as settled and definite. The ancients had no means of ascertaining this, and they perhaps supposed that the ocean extended to an unlimited extent - or, perhaps, to the far distant place where the sky and the water appeared to meet. At all events it was an illustration then, as it is now, of a vast distance, and is not inappropriately used here to denote the impossibility of fully understanding God. This illustration would be far more striking then than now. We have crossed the ocean; and we do not deem it an impracticable thing to explore the remotest seas. But not so the ancients. They kept close to the shore. They seldom ventured out of sight of land. The enterprise of exploring and crossing the vast ocean, which they supposed encompassed the globe, was regarded by them as wholly impracticable - and equally so they correctly supposed it was to find out God.
Poole: Job 11:2 - -- Dost thou think to carry thy cause by thy long and tedious discourses, consisting of empty words, without weight or reason? Shall we by our silence ...
Dost thou think to carry thy cause by thy long and tedious discourses, consisting of empty words, without weight or reason? Shall we by our silence seem to approve of thy errors? or shall we think thy cause the better, because thou usest more words than we do?

Poole: Job 11:3 - -- Thy lies i.e. thy false opinions and assertions, both concerning thyself and thy own innocency, and concerning the counsels and ways of God, make men...
Thy lies i.e. thy false opinions and assertions, both concerning thyself and thy own innocency, and concerning the counsels and ways of God, make men hold their peace; as if thy arguments were unanswerable.
When thou mockest both God, Job 10:3 , and us, and our friendly and faithful counsels, Job 6:14,15,25,26 ,
shall no man make thee ashamed by discovering thy errors and follies?

Poole: Job 11:4 - -- My doctrine concerning God and his providence. Pure , i.e. true and certain.
I am clean in thine eyes I am innocent before God; I have not sinned,...
My doctrine concerning God and his providence. Pure , i.e. true and certain.
I am clean in thine eyes I am innocent before God; I have not sinned, either by my former actions, or by my present expressions. Thou standest wholly upon thy justification. But Zophar aggravates and perverts Job’ s words, for he did not deny that he was a sinner in God’ s sight, Job 7:20,21 9:2,3 10:14 , but only that he was a hypocrite or ungodly man, as they made him.

Poole: Job 11:5 - -- i.e. Plead with thee, according to thy desire, Job 9:32 , &c. He would soon put thee to silence and shame.
i.e. Plead with thee, according to thy desire, Job 9:32 , &c. He would soon put thee to silence and shame.

Poole: Job 11:6 - -- The secrets of wisdom i.e. the unknown and unsearchable depths of God’ s wisdom and counsels in dealing with his creatures.
That they are doubl...
The secrets of wisdom i.e. the unknown and unsearchable depths of God’ s wisdom and counsels in dealing with his creatures.
That they are double to that which is i.e. that they are far more and greater (the word double being used indefinitely for manifold, or plentiful, as Isa 40:2 61:7 Jer 17:18 Zec 9:12 ) than that which hath a being or existence, i.e. the secret wisdom of God is infinitely greater than that which is revealed to us by his word or works. The greatest part of what is known of God, is the least part of those perfections that are in him. And therefore thou dost rashly and foolishly in passing such a bold censure upon God’ s ways, and judging so harshly of his proceedings with thee, because thou dost not comprehend the reasons of them, and in judging thyself innocent, because thou dost not see thy sins; whereas the all-knowing God sees innumerable sins in thee, for which he may utterly destroy thee, though thou discernest them not. But the words are and must be rendered, either thus, that he hath double , i.e. abundant, wisdom, for so this Hebrew word signifies, Job 6:13 12:16 Pro 2:7 3:21 ; or,
that they are double to or in , that being or essence , to wit, to God, of whom he is here speaking; or, to the being , i.e. to God, who calls himself by the name I am , Exo 3:14 , which signifies being ; and who appropriates being to himself, Isa 45:18 , I am, and there is none else besides me ; as elsewhere he is said to be the only wise , and only Potentate , and only immortal being, 1Ti 1:17 6:15,16 . God exacteth of thee less than thine iniquity deserveth , Heb. God lends , or gives , or forgives , thee part of thine iniquity , or of thy punishment ; so far is he from dealing worse than thou deservest, as thou dost most falsely and wickedly accuse him.

Poole: Job 11:7 - -- Find out God i.e. discover all the depths of his wisdom, and the reasons of all his actions.
Find out God i.e. discover all the depths of his wisdom, and the reasons of all his actions.

Poole: Job 11:8 - -- Thou canst not measure the heights of the visible heavens, much less of the Divine perfections.
What canst thou do to wit, to find him out?
What ...
Thou canst not measure the heights of the visible heavens, much less of the Divine perfections.
What canst thou do to wit, to find him out?
What canst thou know concerning him and his ways, which are far out of thy sight and reach?

Poole: Job 11:9 - -- Longer than the earth from one end to the other.
Broader than the sea which is called the great and wide sea , Psa 104:25 .
Longer than the earth from one end to the other.
Broader than the sea which is called the great and wide sea , Psa 104:25 .
PBC -> Job 11:6
PBC: Job 11:6 - -- " that he would shew thee the secrets of wisdom"
HENRY:
Zophar despairs to convince Job himself, and therefore desires God would convince him of two...
" that he would shew thee the secrets of wisdom"
HENRY:
Zophar despairs to convince Job himself, and therefore desires God would convince him of two things which it is good for every one of us duly to consider, and under all our afflictions cheerfully to confess:—
1. The unsearchable depth of God’s counsels. Zophar cannot pretend to do it, but he desires that God himself would show Job so much of the secrets of the divine wisdom as might convince him that they are at least double to that which is, Job 11:6. Note,
2. There are secrets in the divine wisdom, arcana imperii—state- secrets. God’s way is in the sea. Clouds and darkness are round about him. He has reasons of state which we cannot fathom and must not pry into.
3. By employing ourselves in adoring the depth of those divine counsels of which we cannot find the bottom we shall very much tranquillize our minds under the afflicting hand of God. GILL:
…as he that teacheth man knowledge, must have knowledge himself; so he that gives wisdom to the wise, must have infinite wisdom himself; for such is the wisdom of God, it is unsearchable; there is no tracing it; it has a bayov, "a depth", which is unfathomable,
Ro 11:33; Job 11:6-9. No, says Job, "secret things belong not to us, but things revealed," De 29:29.
GILL:
...there are "secrets" or mysteries in this wisdom of God, 1Co 2:6-7; Mt 13:11
JFB:
God’s ways, which you arraign, if you were shown their secret wisdom, would be seen vastly to exceed that of men, including yours (1Co 1:25).
PINK:
It is through faith "that He would show thee the secrets of wisdom, that they are double to that which is" (Job 11:6). By the "secrets of wisdom" is meant the hidden ways of God’s providence. Divine providence has two faces: the one of rigor, the other of clemency; sense looks upon the former only, faith enjoys the latter.
Faith not only looks beneath the surface of things and sees the sweet orange beneath the bitter rind, but it looks beyond the present and anticipates the blessed sequel.
" double to that which is"
HENRY:
What we know of God is nothing to what we cannot know. What is hidden is more than double to what appears, Eph 3:9.
PINK:
Compare Hab 3:3-4
The operations of his power, compared with what he could have done, were rather the hiding of it than the discovery of it; the secrets of his power, as well as of his wisdom, are double to that which is, Job 11:6.
" God exacteth of thee less than thine iniquity deserveth."
HENRY:
God knows a great deal more evil of us than we do of ourselves; so some understand it. When God gave David a sight and sense of sin he said that he had in the hidden part made him to know wisdom, Ps 51:6.
Haydock: Job 11:1 - -- Naamathite. Septuagint, "the Minean," in Arabia Felix, or rather of the Meonim, not far from the Themanites, Judges x. 11. Sophar was probably a ...
Naamathite. Septuagint, "the Minean," in Arabia Felix, or rather of the Meonim, not far from the Themanites, Judges x. 11. Sophar was probably a descendant of Sepho, styled by Septuagint Sophar, (Genesis xxxvi. 11., and 1 Paralipomenon i. 36.) brother of Thaman, and grandson of Eliphaz, the son of Esau. (Calmet) ---
He speaks with greater insolence than the two others, (Pineda) and inveighs against Job, insisting that he can be punished thus only for his crimes. (Calmet)

Haydock: Job 11:2 - -- Much. The speeches of Job seemed tedious to him, because he was not of his opinion. (Menochius) ---
He might have applied to himself and his frien...
Much. The speeches of Job seemed tedious to him, because he was not of his opinion. (Menochius) ---
He might have applied to himself and his friends the fault of talking too much, as they all spoke many things to no purpose, whereas Job went straight to the point. (Worthington)

Haydock: Job 11:3 - -- Men. Hebrew, "shall thy lies make men keep silence?" Septuagint, "Blessed be the short-lived son of a woman. Speak not much, for there is no one t...
Men. Hebrew, "shall thy lies make men keep silence?" Septuagint, "Blessed be the short-lived son of a woman. Speak not much, for there is no one to give sentence against thee." (Haydock) ---
Mocked, by not acquiescing to their solid arguments, (Menochius) and speaking with much animation. (Pineda)

Sight. Job had just said the reverse, chap. ix. 2. (St. Chrysostom)

Haydock: Job 11:6 - -- Law. Hebrew Thushiya, (Haydock) "the essence" of any thing. Hence it is explained, "law, strength, comfort," &c. We might translate, "and that t...
Law. Hebrew Thushiya, (Haydock) "the essence" of any thing. Hence it is explained, "law, strength, comfort," &c. We might translate, "and that the reality of thy crimes deserved double punishment," &c. The obligations of the natural, and also of the written law of Moses, with which Job was (Calmet) perhaps (Haydock) acquainted, (chap. xxii. 22.) are very numerous and difficult. The ways of Providence are not easily understood, though some are obvious enough. He rewards and punishes. (Calmet) ---
Septuagint, "for it is double of what has come against thee, and then thou wouldst know that thy sins are justly requited." Protestants, "that they are double to that which is: Know, therefore, that God exacteth of thee less than thine iniquity deserveth, " 1 Esdras ix. 13. (Haydock)

Perfectly? If not, it is rash to find fault. (Menochius)
Gill: Job 11:1 - -- Then answered Zophar the Naamathite,.... The third of Job's friends, that came to visit him; see Gill on Job 2:11; and who perhaps might be the younge...
Then answered Zophar the Naamathite,.... The third of Job's friends, that came to visit him; see Gill on Job 2:11; and who perhaps might be the youngest, since his turn was to speak last; and he appears to have less modesty and prudence, and more fire and heat in him; than his other friends; though he might be the more irritated by observing, that their arguments were baffled by Job, and had no manner of effect on him, to cause him to recede from his first sentiments and conduct:
and said; as follows.

Gill: Job 11:2 - -- Should not the multitude of words be answered?.... Zophar insinuates, that Job was a mere babbler, a talkative man, that had words, but no matter; sai...
Should not the multitude of words be answered?.... Zophar insinuates, that Job was a mere babbler, a talkative man, that had words, but no matter; said a great deal, but there was nothing in what he said; that his words were but wind, yea, in effect that he was a fool, who is commonly full of words, and is known by the multitude of them; and whereas he might think to bear down all before him in this way, and to discourage persons from giving him an answer; this Zophar suggests should not be the case, nor would he be deterred hereby from giving one, which he now undertook: some supply it, as Bar Tzemach, "should not a man of a multitude of words" s, &c. a verbose man, a dealer in many words, and nothing else, should not he be "answered?" if he uses nothing but words, and there is no argument in them, they seem not to deserve an answer, unless it be to show the emptiness of them, expose a man's folly, and pull down his pride and vanity:
and should a man full of talk be justified? or "a man of lips" t, an eloquent man, or one that affects to be so; a man of a fine speech, who artfully colours things, and makes a show of wisdom and truth, when there are neither in what he says; is such a man to be justified? he would seem to be in his own eyes at least, if not in the eyes of others, if not answered; he would be thought to have carried his point, to have had the better of the argument, and to have got the victory by dint of words and power of oratory; for this is not to be understood of justification before God; for as no man is heard and accepted by him for his "much speaking", as was the opinion of the Heathens, so neither are any justified on account of their many words, any more than their many works; since, in a multitude of words there are often not only much folly and weakness, but vanities and sins, Pro 10:19; there is indeed a sense in which a man is justified by his words, Mat 12:37; when he confesses Christ, and professes to be justified by his righteousness, and believes in that, and pleads it as his justifying righteousness; he is justified by that righteousness; which is contained in the confession and profession of his faith; but this is not here meant.

Gill: Job 11:3 - -- Should thy lies make men hold their peace?.... By which he means, either lies in common, untruths wilfully told, which are sins of a scandalous nature...
Should thy lies make men hold their peace?.... By which he means, either lies in common, untruths wilfully told, which are sins of a scandalous nature, which good men will not dare to commit knowingly; and to give a man, especially such a man, the lie, is very indecent; and to charge a man falsely with it is very injurious: or else doctrinal ones, errors in judgment, falsehoods concerning God and things divine; which not only are not of the truth, for no lie is of the truth, but are against it; and indeed where the case is notorious in either sense, men should not be silent, or be as men deaf and dumb, as the word u signifies, as if they did not hear the lies told them, or were unconcerned about them, or connived at them: David would not suffer a liar to be near him, nor dwell in his house, Psa 101:7; a common liar ought to be reproved and rejected; and doctrinal liars and lies should be opposed and resisted; truth should be contended for, and nothing be done against it, but everything for it: it is criminal to be silent at either sort of lies; nor should the bold and blustering manner in which they are told frighten men from a detection of them, which perhaps is what may be hinted at here w; some render the words x, "should thine iniquity frighten men?" they are not so strong and nervous as to appear unanswerable, and deter men from undertaking a reply unto them:
and, when thou mockest, shall no man make thee ashamed? here Job is represented as a mocker of God, which is inferred from Job 10:3; and at his friends, and the arguments they used, and the advice they gave, which is concluded from his words in Job 6:25; and as one hardened, who was not, and could not be made ashamed of what he had said against either, by anything that had been offered for his reproof and conviction: to make a mock of God, or a jest of divine things, or scoff at good men, is very bad; indeed it is the character of the worst of men; and such should be made ashamed, if possible, by exposing their sin and folly; and if not here, they will be covered with shame hereafter, when they shall appear before God, the Judge of all, who will not be mocked, and shall see the saints at the right hand of Christ, whom they have jeered and scoffed at: but this was not Job's true character; he was no mocker of God nor of good men; in this he was wronged and injured, and had nothing of this sort to be made ashamed of.

Gill: Job 11:4 - -- For thou hast said,.... What follows is produced to support the charge, especially of lying, which seems to be founded on what he had said in Job 6:10...
For thou hast said,.... What follows is produced to support the charge, especially of lying, which seems to be founded on what he had said in Job 6:10,
my doctrine is pure; free from error, unadulterated, unmixed, not blended with Heathenish principles and human doctrines; but tending to purity of heart and life, as every word of God, and doctrine that comes from him, is pure, yea, very pure, like silver purified seven times; and such was Job's doctrine which he "received" from God, "took" y up and professed, taught and delivered to others, so far as was agreeable to the will of God, and the revelation he had then made: and it appears that Job had very clear and sublime notions of God, of his being and perfections, of his works of nature, providence, and grace; of Christ his living Redeemer, of redemption and justification by him, and of the resurrection of the dead; and had purer and better notions of divine things than his friends had, and spoke better things of God than they did, God himself being witness, Job 42:7; some interpret this of the purity of his life and conversation: he is further charged with saying:
and I am clean in thine eyes: speaking to God, as Jarchi observes; and indeed so he was, and every believer is, in an evangelic sense; as to the new man, which is created in righteousness and true holiness, is without sin, and cannot commit it; and as washed from all sin in the blood of Christ, and as clothed with his righteousness, in which the saints are faultless before the throne, and are unblamable and irreprovable in the sight of God: but Zophar's meaning is, that Job had asserted that he was entirely free from sin in himself, was wholly without it, and did not commit any; and had appealed to God, as knowing it to be true; and which he seems to have grounded on what he had said, Job 10:7; through a mistake of his sense; which was not that he was free from sin entirely, but from any gross notorious sin, or from a wicked course of living, and particularly from the sin of hypocrisy, his friends suggested he was guilty of; otherwise he confesses himself a sinner, and prays for the pardon of his sins, and disclaims perfection in himself; see Job 7:20; and indeed there is no creature in itself clean in the sight of God, either angels or men; every man is naturally unclean; no good man is without sin, without the being, indwelling, and commission of it; nor will any truly gracious man say he is; he knows otherwise, and acknowledges it; he that says he is must be an ignorant man, or a vain and pharisaical man; yea, must not say the truth: some have suspected the first part of the words to be Job's, "and I am clean": and the other Zophar's explaining them; that is, "in thine eyes" z; in his own apprehension, as if he had a high and conceited opinion of himself.

Gill: Job 11:5 - -- But O that God would speak,.... To Job, and stop his mouth, so full of words; convict him of his lies, reprove him for his mocks and scoffs, and make ...
But O that God would speak,.... To Job, and stop his mouth, so full of words; convict him of his lies, reprove him for his mocks and scoffs, and make him ashamed of them; refute his false doctrine and oppose it, and show him his folly and vanity in imagining it to be pure, and in conceit thinking himself to be free from sin, and even in the sight of God himself: Zophar seems by this wish to suggest, that what his friends had as yet spoke had had no effect upon Job, and signified nothing; and that he despaired of bringing him to any true sense of himself and his case, but that God only could do it; and therefore he entreats he would take him in hand, and speak unto him; as he had by his providences in afflicting him, so by his spirit in teaching and instructing him; and he adds:
and open his lips against thee; or rather, "with thee", or "to thee" a; converse with thee; speak out his mind freely; disclose the secrets of his wisdom, as in Job 11:6, and that for thy good; fully convince thee of thy sins, mistakes, and follies: for, notwithstanding all the heat and warmth of Zophar's spirit, yet, being a good man, as it cannot be thought he should wilfully and knowingly slander Job, and put a false gloss on his words, so neither could he desire any hurt or injury to be done him, or that God would deal with him as an enemy; only convince and reprove him for his sin, and justify himself and his own conduct, which he imagined Job had arraigned.

Gill: Job 11:6 - -- And that he would show thee the secrets of wisdom,.... Either of sound doctrine, in opposition to his own doctrine he had such a vain opinion of; and ...
And that he would show thee the secrets of wisdom,.... Either of sound doctrine, in opposition to his own doctrine he had such a vain opinion of; and then he would see, as he thought, that it was not so pure as he imagined it to be: the Gospel, and the doctrines of it, are the wisdom of God, the produce of it, and in which it is displayed; as in the doctrines of election to grace and glory, of redemption by Christ, of justification by his righteousness, and pardon by his blood; by which all the divine perfections are glorified, the justice and holiness of God, as well as his grace and mercy: and there are "secrets" or mysteries in this wisdom of God, 1Co 2:6; of mysterious doctrines, which, though revealed, yet the "modus", or manner of them, is not to be searched out and understood; such is the trinity of Persons in the Godhead, the union of the two natures in Christ, the saint's union to God and communion with him, the resurrection of the dead, &c. and these and such like them are only shown by the Lord; men cannot come at them of themselves, by their own natural reason and understanding; it is God that reveals them, in his word, and by his spirit, and gives his people an increasing knowledge of them, 1Co 2:9; or it may be rather the secrets of the wisdom of Divine Providence, in the government of the world, and the ordering of all things in it according to the counsel of God, may be here meant; there is a great display of the wisdom of God in Providence, and there are secrets in it undiscoverable by creatures; his ways are past finding out, they are in the deep waters, and his footsteps are not known, nor to be traced; though sometimes he makes his judgments manifest, and his mind in them; and what he does now, which men know not, he shows them hereafter; especially his own people, and particularly when in the sanctuary of the Lord, and in the way of their duty, when everything appears right and beautiful they before were ready to complain of; see Rom 11:33; and then it is seen:
that they are double to that which is! or to "wisdom" b; as the word is rendered in Pro 2:7; that is, to human wisdom; and then the sense is, that the secrets of divine wisdom displayed, whether in the doctrines of grace or in the methods of Providence, being shown and made manifest, would appear to be "double"; that is, vastly, yea, infinitely to exceed the wisdom of men; and that these, which men are apt to arraign as weak and wrong, are the effects of the highest wisdom, or they then appear so "to a man of wisdom" c; so the supply may be made, as is in Mic 6:9; or else the sense is, were Job let in to the secret wisdom of God more, and into the purity and holiness of his law, which some understand by "that which is", or "wisdom", and render it "according to the law" d and see what that requires, and how much short he comes of it, and what and how many were his transgressions and violations of it; it then would be plain to him, that the punishment that God, in wisdom, and according to his righteous law, might inflict upon him, would be double; or, greatly, yea, infinitely exceed those afflictions he was now exercised with, and therefore he had no reason to complain; to which agrees what follows:
know therefore that God exacteth of thee less than thine iniquities deserve; or punishes, afflicts, or chastises, less than the deserts of sin; see Ezr 9:13; some render it, "God exacteth of thee something of thine iniquity"; so Junius and Tremellius; according to which version the sense is, that sins are debts, and these many; and that payment of part of the debt of punishment for them is only required, which is not truth; for, though there is a debt of punishment due to justice for sin, yet it is not part of it only that is required of the sinner, but the whole, if any; for indeed no part of it is exacted of God's people, since the whole has been exacted of Christ, and he has answered and paid the whole debt, and blotted out the handwriting against them; wherefore the word used has rather the signification of forgetfulness, and may be rendered, either "God hath caused", or "suffered thee to forget part of thine iniquity" e; or thou couldest never say that thou wert clean in his eye, and free from sin; or, "God himself has forgot part of thine iniquity" f; in that he has afflicted thee so mildly, and with so much lenity; or, "hath forgotten thee for thine iniquity" g; forsook him, hid his face from him, laid his hand on him, and sorely chastised him, so that he seemed to be forgotten by him, or he to forget to be gracious to him; all which were owing to his sins, these were the causes of it; or, "will condemn thee for thine iniquity" h.

Gill: Job 11:7 - -- Canst thou by searching find out God?.... God is not to be found out by human search; that there is a God may be found out by inquiring into the book ...
Canst thou by searching find out God?.... God is not to be found out by human search; that there is a God may be found out by inquiring into the book of nature, by considering the creatures that are made, who all proclaim some first cause or maker of them, who is God; but then it cannot be found out what God is, his nature, being, and perfections: an Heathen philosopher i, being asked by a certain king what God was, required a day to give in his answer; when that was up he desired a second, and still went on asking more; and being demanded the reason of his dilatoriness, replied, the more he had considered the question, the more obscure it was to him: the world by wisdom, or the wiser part of the Heathen world, knew not God; though they knew there was one, they knew not who and what he was; and therefore in some places altars were erected to the unknown God, Act 17:23, and though some of the perfections of God may be investigated from the works of nature, such as the power, wisdom, and goodness of God, Rom 1:19; yet not all his perfections, such as his grace, mercy, &c. proclaimed and displayed in Christ; nor indeed his counsels, purposes, and decrees, which lie in his eternal mind, are the thoughts of his heart, the deep things of God, which none but the Spirit of God searches, knows, and reveals; and since Zophar's request was, that God should show to Job "the secrets of wisdom", these may be meant here, either evangelical wisdom, the wisdom of God in a mystery hid in his heart from everlasting, and the mysterious truths and doctrines or it, things which eye has not seen, nor ear heard, nor has it entered into the heart of man to conceive of; these are not to be found out by human search, but are by the revelation of God; or else the reasons of the proceedings of God in Providence, which are out of the reach of men, dark, intricate, mysterious, unsearchable, and past finding out:
canst thou find out the Almighty unto perfection? to the uttermost of his nature and perfections; all his attributes, the last of them, and the extremity thereof: that God is perfect and entire, wanting nothing, and is possessed of all perfections, may be found out, or otherwise he would not be God; but his essence and attributes, being infinite, can never be traced and comprehended by finite minds; there are some perfections of God we have no idea of, but are lost in confusion and amazement as soon as we think of them and reason about them, as his eternity and immensity particularly; for, when we have rolled over in our minds millions and millions of ages, we are as far off from eternity as when we began; and when we have pervaded all worlds, and every space and place, we have got no further into immensity than at first; we are confounded when we think of a Being without beginning and without bounds, unoriginated, and unlimited; yea, even it is but a small part of the works of God in creation that is known by men, or of God in and by them; nay, by divine revelation, which gives the clearest and most enlarged view of him, whereby he has proclaimed his name, a God gracious and merciful, &c. yet it is only his back parts that are shown, not his face; it is only through a glass, darkly, we now see; indeed, in the other world, we shall see him face to face, and as he is, yet then never comprehend his essence: and, after all, it is only in Christ that God is to be found, to saving purposes; in him is the most glorious display of him; being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person; and not only all his perfections are in him, as a divine Person, but they are glorified by him as Mediator; every step in salvation is taken in Christ, and every blessing of grace comes through him; what of the divine Presence and communion with God is enjoyed is by him; and he will be the medium of the enjoyment of God, and of all the glory and happiness of the saints in the world to come.

Gill: Job 11:8 - -- It is as high as heaven; what canst thou do?.... Or, "is higher than the heavens" i; either the wisdom of God and the secrets of it; the perfection o...
It is as high as heaven; what canst thou do?.... Or, "is higher than the heavens" i; either the wisdom of God and the secrets of it; the perfection of his wisdom, by which he has made the heavens; or evangelical wisdom, hid in his heart, and which the highest of creatures, the angels, come at the knowledge of only by revelation; and therefore, what can man do to find it out, unless God reveals it? or wisdom displayed in dark providences, which can never be accounted for until the judgments of God are made manifest: or else, "he that is God", as the Vulgate Latin version, is "higher than the heavens"; the heaven is his throne on which he sits, and therefore he must be higher than that; the heavens, and heaven of heavens, cannot contain him; he fills up the infinite space beyond them; how is it possible therefore to find him out, to comprehend him?
deeper than hell; what canst thou know? meaning, neither the grave nor the place of the damned, for both which "Sheol" is sometimes used, but the centre or lowest part of the earth; there is a depth in God, in his essence, in his thoughts, in his wisdom, displayed in nature, providence, and grace, that is unfathomable; we can know nothing of it but what he is pleased to make known; see Psa 92:5; the Targum of the verse is,"in the height of heaven, what canst thou do? in the law, which is deeper than hell, what canst thou know?''

Gill: Job 11:9 - -- The measure thereof is longer than the earth, and broader than the sea. Length is generally ascribed to the earth, and width to the sea; the ends of ...
The measure thereof is longer than the earth, and broader than the sea. Length is generally ascribed to the earth, and width to the sea; the ends of the earth are used for a great distance, and the sea is called the great and wide sea; see k Psa 72:1; but God and his perfections, particularly his wisdom and understanding, are infinite, Psa 147:5; and will admit of no dimensions; as his love, so his wisdom, has an height which cannot be reached, a depth that cannot be fathomed, and a length and breadth immeasurable; see Eph 3:18; from hence it appears that God is omniscient, omnipresent, and incomprehensible; and since he is to be found in Christ, and in him only, it is in vain for us to seek for him elsewhere: next the sovereignty of God is discoursed of.

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NET Notes: Job 11:1 Zophar begins with a strong rebuke of Job with a wish that God would speak (2-6); he then reflects for a few verses on the unsearchable wisdom of God ...

NET Notes: Job 11:2 The word is literally “be right, righteous.” The idea of being right has appeared before for this word (cf. 9:15). The point here is that ...

NET Notes: Job 11:3 The construction shows the participle to be in the circumstantial clause: “will you mock – and [with] no one rebuking.”

NET Notes: Job 11:4 The word translated “teaching” is related etymologically to the Hebrew word “receive,” but that does not restrict the teaching...

NET Notes: Job 11:5 Job had expressed his eagerness to challenge God; Zophar here wishes that God would take up that challenge.

NET Notes: Job 11:6 Heb “God causes to be forgotten for you part of your iniquity.” The meaning is that God was exacting less punishment from Job than Job des...


NET Notes: Job 11:8 Or “deeper than hell.” The word “Sheol” always poses problems for translation. Here because it is the opposite of heaven in th...
Geneva Bible: Job 11:2 Should not the multitude of words be answered? and should a man ( a ) full of talk be justified?
( a ) Should he persuade by his great talk that he i...

Geneva Bible: Job 11:4 For thou hast said, ( b ) My doctrine [is] pure, and I am clean in thine eyes.
( b ) He charges Job with this, that he should say, that the thing whi...

Geneva Bible: Job 11:6 And that he would shew thee the ( c ) secrets of wisdom, that [they are] double to that which is! Know therefore that God exacteth of thee [less] than...

Geneva Bible: Job 11:8 [It is] as high as heaven; what canst thou do? ( d ) deeper than hell; what canst thou know?
( d ) That is, this perfection of God, and if man is not...

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TSK Synopsis -> Job 11:1-20
TSK Synopsis: Job 11:1-20 - --1 Zophar reproves Job for justifying himself.5 God's wisdom is unsearchable.13 The assured blessing of repentance.
MHCC -> Job 11:1-6; Job 11:7-12
MHCC: Job 11:1-6 - --Zophar attacked Job with great vehemence. He represented him as a man that loved to hear himself speak, though he could say nothing to the purpose, an...

MHCC: Job 11:7-12 - --Zophar speaks well concerning God and his greatness and glory, concerning man and his vanity and folly. See here what man is; and let him be humbled. ...
Matthew Henry -> Job 11:1-6; Job 11:7-12
Matthew Henry: Job 11:1-6 - -- It is sad to see what intemperate passions even wise and good men are sometimes betrayed into by the heat of disputation, of which Zophar here is an...

Matthew Henry: Job 11:7-12 - -- Zophar here speaks very good things concerning God and his greatness and glory, concerning man and his vanity and folly: these two compared together...
Keil-Delitzsch -> Job 11:1-6; Job 11:7-9
Keil-Delitzsch: Job 11:1-6 - --
1 Then began Zophar the Naamathite, and said:
2 Shall the torrent of words remain unanswered,
And shall the prater be in the right?
3 Shall thy v...

Keil-Delitzsch: Job 11:7-9 - --
7 Canst thou find out the nature of Eloah,
And penetrate to the foundation of the existence of the Almighty?
8 It is as the heights of heaven-what...
Constable: Job 4:1--14:22 - --B. The First Cycle of Speeches between Job and His Three Friends chs. 4-14
The two soliloquies of Job (c...

Constable: Job 11:1-20 - --5. Zophar's first speech ch. 11
Zophar took great offense at what Job had said. He responded vic...

Constable: Job 11:1-6 - --Zophar's rebuke of Job 11:1-6
Four things about Job bothered Zophar: his loquacity (v. 2...
