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Wesley: Job 12:23 - -- What hitherto he said of princes, he now applies to nations, whom God does either increase or diminish as he pleases.
What hitherto he said of princes, he now applies to nations, whom God does either increase or diminish as he pleases.

Wesley: Job 12:25 - -- Thus are the revolutions of kingdoms brought about by an overruling providence. Heaven and earth are shaken: but the Lord remaineth a king forever.
Thus are the revolutions of kingdoms brought about by an overruling providence. Heaven and earth are shaken: but the Lord remaineth a king forever.
JFB: Job 12:23 - -- Isa 9:3; Psa 107:38-39, which Psalm quotes this chapter elsewhere. (See on Job 12:21).
Isa 9:3; Psa 107:38-39, which Psalm quotes this chapter elsewhere. (See on Job 12:21).

Literally, "leadeth in," that is, "reduces."

JFB: Job 12:24 - -- Figurative; not referring to any actual fact. This cannot be quoted to prove Job lived after Israel's wanderings in the desert. Psa 107:4, Psa 107:40 ...
Figurative; not referring to any actual fact. This cannot be quoted to prove Job lived after Israel's wanderings in the desert. Psa 107:4, Psa 107:40 quotes this passage.
Clarke: Job 12:23 - -- He increaseth the nations - Mr. Good translates, He letteth the nations grow licentious. Pride, fullness of bread, with extensive trade and commerce...
He increaseth the nations - Mr. Good translates, He letteth the nations grow licentious. Pride, fullness of bread, with extensive trade and commerce, produce luxury; and this is ever accompanied with profligacy of manners. When, then, the cup of this iniquity is full, God destroys the nation, by bringing or permitting to come against it a nation less pampered, more necessitous, and inured to toil

Clarke: Job 12:23 - -- He enlargeth the nations - Often permits a nation to acquire an accession of territory, and afterwards shuts them up within their ancient boundaries...
He enlargeth the nations - Often permits a nation to acquire an accession of territory, and afterwards shuts them up within their ancient boundaries, and often contracts even those. All these things seem to occur as natural events, and the consequences of state intrigues, and such like causes; but when Divine inspiration comes to pronounce upon them, they are shown to be the consequence of God’ s acting in his judgment and mercy; for it is by him that kings reign; it is he who putteth down one and raiseth up another.

Clarke: Job 12:24 - -- He taketh away the heart of the chief - Suddenly deprives the leaders of great counsels, or mighty armies of courage; so that, panic-struck, they fl...
He taketh away the heart of the chief - Suddenly deprives the leaders of great counsels, or mighty armies of courage; so that, panic-struck, they flee when none pursueth, or are confounded when about to enter on the accomplishment of important designs

Clarke: Job 12:24 - -- And causeth them to wander in a wilderness - A plain allusion to the journeyings of the Israelites in the deserts of Arabia, on their way to the pro...
And causeth them to wander in a wilderness - A plain allusion to the journeyings of the Israelites in the deserts of Arabia, on their way to the promised land. Their chief, Aaron, had his courage all taken away by the clamors of the people; and so made them a molten calf to be the object of their worship, which defection from God was the cause of their wandering nearly forty years in the trackless wilderness. The reference is so marked, that it scarcely admits of a doubt; yet Houbigant and some others have called it in question, and suppose that those chiefs or heads of families which led out colonies into distant parts are principally intended. It answers too well to the case of the Israelites in the wilderness to admit of any other interpretation.

Clarke: Job 12:25 - -- They grope in the dark - The writer seems to have had his eye on those words of Moses, Deu 28:28, Deu 28:29 : The Lord shall smite thee with madness...
They grope in the dark - The writer seems to have had his eye on those words of Moses, Deu 28:28, Deu 28:29 : The Lord shall smite thee with madness, and blindness, and astonishment of heart; and thou shalt Grope At Noonday, as the Blind Gropeth In Darkness. And this also may refer to the unaccountable errors, transgressions, and judicial blindness of the Israelites in their journeying to the promised land: but it will apply also to the state of wicked nations under judicial blindness. The writer is principally indebted for his imagery, and indeed for the chief expressions used here, to Psa 107:27 : They reel to and fro, and stagger like a drunken man. Psa 107:39, Psa 107:40 : Again, they are minished and brought low through oppression, affliction, and sorrow. He Poureth Contempt Upon Princes, and Causeth Them To Wonder In The Wilderness, where there is No Way. Mr. Good has some judicious reflections on this chapter, particularly on Job 12:13-22 : "It should be observed,"says he, "that the entire passage has a reference to the machinery of a regular and political government; and that its general drift is to imprint on the mind of the hearer the important doctrine that the whole of the constituent principles of such a government, its officers and institutions; its monarchs and princes; its privy-counselors, judges, and ministers of state; its chieftains, public orators, and assembly of elders; its nobles, or men of hereditary rank; and its stout robust peasantry, as we should express it in the present day; nay, the deep designing villains that plot in secret its destruction; - that the nations themselves, and the heads or sovereigns of the nations, are all and equally in the hands of the Almighty: that with him human pomp is poverty; human excellence, turpitude; human judgment, error; human wisdom, folly; human dignity, contempt; human strength, weakness."
Defender: Job 12:23 - -- This verse may refer to the Table of Nations (Genesis 10), when suddenly the one nation at Babel was changed into about seventy nations.
This verse may refer to the Table of Nations (Genesis 10), when suddenly the one nation at Babel was changed into about seventy nations.

Defender: Job 12:24 - -- Except for the fertile plains of Shinar and the Nile Valley, the world after the Flood was largely an uncharted wilderness. It was into this that God ...
Except for the fertile plains of Shinar and the Nile Valley, the world after the Flood was largely an uncharted wilderness. It was into this that God scattered the rebelling tribes at Babel."

Defender: Job 12:25 - -- Many of the scattering tribes had to live in caves for a time. These may well have been the so-called "cave-men," exploited by the evolutionists as pr...
Many of the scattering tribes had to live in caves for a time. These may well have been the so-called "cave-men," exploited by the evolutionists as primitive ape-men, in spite of the fact that their remains and artifacts are fully human."
TSK: Job 12:23 - -- increaseth : Exo 1:7, Exo 1:20; Psa 107:38; Isa 9:3, Isa 26:15, Isa 27:6, Isa 51:2, Isa 60:22; Jer 30:19; Jer 33:22; Zec 10:8
straiteneth them again :...

TSK: Job 12:24 - -- He taketh : Job 12:20, Job 17:4; Isa 6:9, Isa 6:10, Isa 19:1; Dan 4:16, Dan 4:33; Hos 7:11
and causeth : Psa 107:4, Psa 107:40
in a wilderness : Betho...
He taketh : Job 12:20, Job 17:4; Isa 6:9, Isa 6:10, Isa 19:1; Dan 4:16, Dan 4:33; Hos 7:11
and causeth : Psa 107:4, Psa 107:40
in a wilderness :

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Barnes: Job 12:23 - -- He increaseth the nations, and destroyeth them - He has entire control over them. The sources of prosperity are in his hand, and at his pleasur...
He increaseth the nations, and destroyeth them - He has entire control over them. The sources of prosperity are in his hand, and at his pleasure he can visit them with famine, pestilence, or war, and diminish their numbers and arrest their prosperity. Dr. Good renders this very improperly, "He letteth the nations grow licentious;"but the word
And straiteneth them again - Margin, "leadeth in."So the word

Barnes: Job 12:24 - -- He taketh away the heart - The word heart here evidently means mind, intelligence, wisdom; see the notes at Job 12:3. Of the chief of the ...
He taketh away the heart - The word heart here evidently means mind, intelligence, wisdom; see the notes at Job 12:3.
Of the chief of the people - Hebrew "Heads of the people;"that is, of the rulers of the earth. The meaning is, that he leaves them to infatuated and distracted counsels. By withdrawing from them, he has power to frustrate their plans, and to leave them to an entire lack of wisdom; see the notes at Job 12:17.
And causeth them to wander in a wilderness - They are like persons in a vast waste of pathless sands without a waymark, a guide, or a path. The perplexity and confusion of the great ones of the earth could not be more strikingly represented than by the condition of such a lost traveler.

Barnes: Job 12:25 - -- They grope in the dark - They are like persons who attempt to feel their way along in the dark; compare the notes at Isa 59:10. And he mak...
They grope in the dark - They are like persons who attempt to feel their way along in the dark; compare the notes at Isa 59:10.
And he maketh them to stagger like a drunken man - Margin, "wander."Their unstable and perplexed counsels are like the reelings of a drunken man; see Isa 19:14, note; Isa 24:20, note. This closes the chapter, and with it the controversy in regard to the ability to adduce pertinent and striking proverbial expressions; see the notes at Job 12:3. Job had showed them that he was as familiar with proverbs respecting God as they were, and that he entertained as exalted ideas of the control and government of the Most High as they did. It may be added, that these are sublime and beautiful expressions respecting God. They surpass all that can be found in the writings of the pagan; and they show that somehow in the earliest ages there prevailed views of God which the human mind for ages afterward, and in the most favorable circumstances, was not capable of originating. These proverbial sayings were doubtless fragments of revealed truth, which had come down by tradition, and which were thus embodied in a form convenient to be transmitted from age to age.
Poole: Job 12:23 - -- What hitherto he said of princes, he now applies to nations and people, whom God doth either increase or diminish as he pleaseth.
He enlargeth the ...
What hitherto he said of princes, he now applies to nations and people, whom God doth either increase or diminish as he pleaseth.
He enlargeth the nations he multiplies them, so that they are forced to send forth colonies into other lands.
Straiteneth them again or, leadeth them in , or bringeth them back , into their own land, and confineth them there.

Poole: Job 12:24 - -- The heart which signifies either,
1. Their courage, as Psa 76:12 ; or rather,
2. Their wisdom and counsel, as Job 5:13 Isa 3:4 , as the following w...
The heart which signifies either,
1. Their courage, as Psa 76:12 ; or rather,
2. Their wisdom and counsel, as Job 5:13 Isa 3:4 , as the following words show.
The chief either for place and power, or for wisdom and conduct.
Causeth them to wander in a wilderness i.e. fills them with confusion, and uncertainty, and perplexity of mind, so that they know not how to govern themselves or their people.

Poole: Job 12:25 - -- They grope like men that cannot see their way.
In the dark without light two phrases expressing the same thing, emphatically to express their profo...
They grope like men that cannot see their way.
In the dark without light two phrases expressing the same thing, emphatically to express their profound darkness.
Like a drunken man who reels hither and thither without any certainty. So they sometimes take one course, and sometimes another, as resolving to try all experiments, and indeed not knowing what to do.
Haydock: Job 12:23 - -- Multiplieth. Hebrew, Septuagint, and Syriac, "deceiveth," (Calmet) suffering them to confide too much in their strength, so that they fall an easy p...
Multiplieth. Hebrew, Septuagint, and Syriac, "deceiveth," (Calmet) suffering them to confide too much in their strength, so that they fall an easy prey. (Haydock) ---
How many nations, once so powerful, are now fallen; while others of no account have risen to eminence!

Haydock: Job 12:24 - -- Changeth. Hebrew, "taketh away the heart," or prudence "of princes." Hence they follow the most absurd counsels, Isaias xxix. 19. (Calmet) ---
No...
Changeth. Hebrew, "taketh away the heart," or prudence "of princes." Hence they follow the most absurd counsels, Isaias xxix. 19. (Calmet) ---
No way. This was the case of Pharao, when he pursued the Israelites into the sea; (Tirinus) and the like may rationally be feared by those princes, who attempt to make innovations in the true religion, or in the sound laws of a kingdom. (Menochius)
Gill: Job 12:23 - -- He increaseth the nations, and destroyeth them,.... As he did before the flood, when the earth was tilled, and all over peopled with them, but at the ...
He increaseth the nations, and destroyeth them,.... As he did before the flood, when the earth was tilled, and all over peopled with them, but at the flood he destroyed them at once. Sephorno interprets it of the seven nations in the land of Canaan, which were increased in it, and destroyed, to make way for the Israelites to inhabit it; and this has since been verified in other kingdoms, large and populous, and brought to destruction, particularly in the four monarchies, Babylonian, Persian, Grecian, and Roman, and will be in the antichristian states and nations of the world:
he enlargeth the nations, and straiteneth them again; or "stretcheth" or "spreadeth out the nations" c, as he did all over the earth before the deluge, and then most remarkably straitened them, when they were reduced to so small a number as to be contained in a single ark: "or leads them" d; that is, "governs them", as Mr. Broughton renders the word, rules and overrules them, as large as they are; or leads them into captivity, as some Jewish writers e, as the Israelites; though they have been enlarged, and became numerous, as it was promised they should, yet have been led into captivity, first the ten tribes by the Assyrians, and then the two tribes by the Chaldeans; the Targum is, "he spreadeth out a net for the nations, and leadeth them", that is, into it, so that they are taken in it, see Eze 12:13.

Gill: Job 12:24 - -- He taketh away the heart of the chief of the people of the earth,.... The people of the earth are the common people; the "chief" or "heads" f of them,...
He taketh away the heart of the chief of the people of the earth,.... The people of the earth are the common people; the "chief" or "heads" f of them, as it may be rendered, are kings, princes and generals of armies; whose "hearts" may be said to be "taken away" when they are dispirited, and deprived both of courage and conduct; have neither valour nor wisdom, neither fortitude of mind, nor military skill to defend themselves and their people against their enemies. Sephorno interprets this of Sihon and Og, whose spirits the Lord hardened, and made their hearts obstinate to war with Israel, Deu 2:30; but it may be better understood of the Israelites, and the heads of them, when they were discomfited by the Amalekites, quickly after their coming out of Egypt, see Num 14:45; about which time Job lived: and the rather, since it follows,
and caused them to wander in a wilderness where there is no way: no track, no beaten path to follow, to be a guide to them, and direct their way; in such a wilderness the Israelites wandered near forty years, see Psa 107:40.

Gill: Job 12:25 - -- They grope in the dark without light,.... Like blind men, as the men of Sodom, when they were struck with blindness; or "they grope", or "feel the dar...
They grope in the dark without light,.... Like blind men, as the men of Sodom, when they were struck with blindness; or "they grope", or "feel the dark, and not light" g, as the Targum; as the Egyptian, did when such gross darkness was upon them as might be felt:
and he maketh them to stagger like a drunken man; that has lost his sight, his senses, and his feet, and knows not where he is, which way to go, nor how to keep on his legs, but reels to and fro, and is at the utmost loss what to do; all this is said of the heads or chief of the people, in consequence of their hearts being taken away, and so left destitute of wisdom and strength.

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NET Notes: Job 12:23 The rise and fall of nations, which does not seem to be governed by any moral principle, is for Job another example of God’s arbitrary power.


NET Notes: Job 12:25 The verb is the same that was in v. 24, “He makes them [the leaders still] wander” (the Hiphil of תָּעָ...
Geneva Bible -> Job 12:23
Geneva Bible: Job 12:23 He ( m ) increaseth the nations, and destroyeth them: he enlargeth the nations, and straiteneth them [again].
( m ) In this discourse of God's wonder...

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TSK Synopsis -> Job 12:1-25
TSK Synopsis: Job 12:1-25 - --1 Job maintains himself against his friends that reprove him.7 He acknowledges the general doctrine of God's omnipotence.
MHCC -> Job 12:12-25
MHCC: Job 12:12-25 - --This is a noble discourse of Job concerning the wisdom, power, and sovereignty of God, in ordering all the affairs of the children of men, according t...
Matthew Henry -> Job 12:12-25
Matthew Henry: Job 12:12-25 - -- This is a noble discourse of Job's concerning the wisdom, power, and sovereignty of God, in ordering and disposing of all the affairs of the childre...
Keil-Delitzsch -> Job 12:22-25
Keil-Delitzsch: Job 12:22-25 - --
22 He discovereth deep things out of darkness,
And bringeth out to light the shadow of death;
23 He giveth prosperity to nations and then destroye...
Constable: Job 4:1--14:22 - --B. The First Cycle of Speeches between Job and His Three Friends chs. 4-14
The two soliloquies of Job (c...

Constable: Job 12:1--14:22 - --6. Job's first reply to Zophar chs. 12-14
In these chapters Job again rebutted his friends and t...




