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Wesley -> Job 14:21
Wesley: Job 14:21 - -- Either is ignorant of all such events: or, is not concerned or affected with them. A dead or dying man minds not these things.
Either is ignorant of all such events: or, is not concerned or affected with them. A dead or dying man minds not these things.
JFB: Job 14:21 - -- One striking trait is selected from the sad picture of the severance of the dead from all that passes in the world (Ecc 9:5), namely, the utter separa...
One striking trait is selected from the sad picture of the severance of the dead from all that passes in the world (Ecc 9:5), namely, the utter separation of parents and children.

JFB: Job 14:22 - -- "Flesh" and "soul" describe the whole man. Scripture rests the hope of a future life, not on the inherent immortality of the soul, but on the restorat...
"Flesh" and "soul" describe the whole man. Scripture rests the hope of a future life, not on the inherent immortality of the soul, but on the restoration of the body with the soul. In the unseen world, Job in a gloomy frame anticipates, man shall be limited to the thought of his own misery. "Pain is by personification, from our feelings while alive, attributed to the flesh and soul, as if the man could feel in his body when dead. It is the dead in general, not the wicked, who are meant here."
Clarke: Job 14:21 - -- His sons come to honor - When dead, he is equally indifferent and unconscious whether his children have met with a splendid or oppressive lot in lif...
His sons come to honor - When dead, he is equally indifferent and unconscious whether his children have met with a splendid or oppressive lot in life; for as to this world, when man dies, in that day all his thoughts perish.

Clarke: Job 14:22 - -- But his flesh upon him shall have pain - The sum of the life of man is this, pain of body and distress of soul; and he is seldom without the one or ...
But his flesh upon him shall have pain - The sum of the life of man is this, pain of body and distress of soul; and he is seldom without the one or the other, and often oppressed by both. Thus ends Job’ s discourse on the miserable state and condition of man. The last verse of the preceding chapter has been differently translated and explained. Mr
Good’ s version is the following, which he vindicates in a learned note: -
For his flesh shall drop away from him
And his soul shall become a waste from him
The Chaldee thus: "Nevertheless his flesh, on account of the worms, shall grieve over him; and his soul, in the house of judgment, shall wail over him."In another copy of this version it is thus: "Nevertheless his flesh, before the window is closed over him, shall grieve; and his soul, for seven days of mourning, shall bewail him in the house of his burial."I shall give the Hebrew: -
Which Mr. Stock translates thus, both to the spirit and letter: -
But over him his flesh shall grieve
And over him his breath shall mourn
"In the daring spirit of oriental poetry,"says he, "the flesh, or body, and the breath, are made conscious beings; the former lamenting its putrefaction in the grave, the latter mourning over the mouldering clay which it once enlivened.
This version is, in my opinion, the most natural yet offered. The Syriac and Arabic present nearly the same sense: "But his body shall grieve over him; and his soul be astonished over him.
Coverdale follows the Vulgate: Whyle he lyveth his flesh must have travayle; and whyle the soul is in him, he must be in sorowe.
On Job 14:2. I have referred to the following beautiful lines, which illustrate these finely figurative texts: -
He cometh forth as a Flower, and is Cut Down; he fleeth also as a shadow, and continueth not
All flesh is Grass, and all the goodliness thereof is as the Flower of the field
The Grass withereth, the Flower fadeth; but the word of our God shall stand for ever
The morning flowers display their sweets,
And gay their silken leaves unfold
As careless of the noonday heats,
As fearless of the evening cold
Nipp’ d by the wind’ s untimely blast,
Parch’ d by the sun’ s directer ray
The momentary glories waste,
The short-lived beauties die away
So blooms the human face divine,
When youth its pride of beauty shows
Fairer than spring the colors shine,
And sweeter than the virgin rose
Or worn by slowly-rolling years,
Or broke by sickness in a day
The fading glory disappears,
The short-lived beauties die away
Yet these, new rising from the tomb,
With lustre brighter far shall shine
Revive with ever-during bloom,
Safe from diseases and decline
Let sickness blast, let death devour,
If heaven must recompense our pains
Perish the grass and fade the flower,
If firm the word of God remains
See a Collection of Poems on Sundry Occasions, by the Rev. Samuel Wesley, Master of Blundell’ s School, Tiverton.
TSK: Job 14:21 - -- he knoweth it not : 1Sa 4:20; Psa 39:6; Ecc 2:18, Ecc 2:19, Ecc 9:5; Isa 39:7, Isa 39:8, Isa 63:16

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Barnes: Job 14:21 - -- His sons come to honour, and he knoweth it not - He is unacquainted with what is passing on the earth. Even should that occur which is most gra...
His sons come to honour, and he knoweth it not - He is unacquainted with what is passing on the earth. Even should that occur which is most gratifying to a parent’ s heart; should his children rise to stations of honor and influence, he would not be permitted to enjoy the happiness which every father feels when his sons do well. This is suggested as one of the evils of death.
They are brought low, but he perceiveth it not of them - He is not permitted to sympathize with them, or to sustain them in their trials. This is another of the evils of death. When his children need his counsel and advice, he is not permitted to give it. He is taken away from his family, and revisits them no more.

Barnes: Job 14:22 - -- But his flesh upon him shall have pain - Dr. Good renders this, "his flesh shall drop away from him."This is evidently a representation of the ...
But his flesh upon him shall have pain - Dr. Good renders this, "his flesh shall drop away from him."This is evidently a representation of the state of the man after he was dead. He would be taken away from hope and from his friends. His body would be committed to the grave, and his spirit would go to the world of shades. The image in the mind seems to have been, that his flesh would suffer. It would be cold and chill, and would be devoured by worms. There seems to have been an impression that the soul would be conscious of this in its distant and silent abode, and the description is given of the grave as if the body were conscious there, and the turning back to dust were attended with pain. This thought is that which makes the grave so gloomy now. We think of ourselves in its darkness and chilliness. We insensibly suppose that we shall be conscious there. And hence, we dread so much the lonely, sad, and gloomy residence in the tomb. The meaning of the word rendered "shall have pain"-
And his soul within him shall mourn - The soul that is within him shall be sad; that is, in the land of shades. So Virgil, speaking of the death of Lausus, says,
Tum vita per auras
Concessit moesta ad manes, corpusque reliquit.
Aeneid x. 819.
The idea of Job is, that it would leave all the comforts of this life; it would be separate from family and friends; it would go lonely and sad to the land of shades and of night. Job dreaded it. He loved life; and in the future world, as it was presented to his view, there was nothing to charm and attract. There he expected to wander in darkness and sadness; and from that gloomy world he expected to return no more forever. Eichhorn, however, has rendered this verse so as to give a different signification, which may perhaps be the true one.
Nur uber sich ist er betrubt;
Nur sich betrauert er.
"His troubles pertain only to himself; his grief relates to himself alone."According to this, the idea is that he must bear all his sorrows alone, and for himself. He is cut off from the living, and is not permitted to share in the joys and sorrows of his posterity, nor they in his. He has no knowledge of anything that pertains to them, nor do they participate in his griefs. What a flood of light and joy would have been poured on his soul by the Christian hope, and by the revelation of the truth that there is a world of perfect light and joy for the righteous - in heaven! And what thanks do we owe to the Great Author of our religion - to him who is "the Resurrection and the Life "- that we are permitted to look upon the grave with hearts full of peace and joy!
Poole: Job 14:21 - -- He knoweth it not either,
1. Is ignorant of all such events; or,
2. Is not concerned nor affected with them. A dead or dying man minds not these th...
He knoweth it not either,
1. Is ignorant of all such events; or,
2. Is not concerned nor affected with them. A dead or dying man minds not these things.

Poole: Job 14:22 - -- This is man’ s condition; he is miserable both when he dies, because he dies without hope of returning to life, as he had discoursed before; an...
This is man’ s condition; he is miserable both when he dies, because he dies without hope of returning to life, as he had discoursed before; and (as he now adds) whilst he lives, whilst his flesh is upon him, and his soul within him ; whilst the soul is clothed with or united to the body, he feels sharp
pain in his body, and bitter grief in his soul. Seeing therefore the state of man upon earth is so vain and unhappy every way, Lord, give me some comfort to sweeten my life, or take away my life from me.
Haydock: Job 14:21 - -- Or dishonour. He cannot naturally be informed. (Menochius) ---
God may, however, reveal to souls departed, what may increase their accidental happ...
Or dishonour. He cannot naturally be informed. (Menochius) ---
God may, however, reveal to souls departed, what may increase their accidental happiness or misery. (Haydock) ---
Hence the Church prays to the saints. Job is speaking chiefly of the body in the grave, and of what appear exteriorly. During life man cannot foresee the state of his children; not in the other world, would their condition render him happy or otherwise. (Calmet) (Mercer) ---
Septuagint, "If his sons be many,...or....few, he knows not." (Haydock) ---
He is not affected in the same manner as he would be, if living. (Worthington)

Haydock: Job 14:22 - -- Over. Hebrew, "within him." (Haydock) ---
During life man is full of cares, and presently he is consigned to the dreary tomb, ver. 19. (Calmet)
Over. Hebrew, "within him." (Haydock) ---
During life man is full of cares, and presently he is consigned to the dreary tomb, ver. 19. (Calmet)
Gill: Job 14:21 - -- His sons come to honour,.... Or "are multiplied" s, see Nah 3:15; their families increase like a flock, become very numerous, which was reckoned a gre...
His sons come to honour,.... Or "are multiplied" s, see Nah 3:15; their families increase like a flock, become very numerous, which was reckoned a great blessing; or "become heavy" t; being loaded with gold and silver, with riches and honour, raised to great grandeur and dignity, and possessed of much wealth and large estates:
and he knoweth it not; the man whose countenance is changed and sent away into another world; for the dead know nothing of the affairs of this life; a good man indeed after death knows more of God and Christ, of the doctrines of grace, and mysteries of Providence; but he knows nothing of the affairs of his family he has left behind: some understand this of a man on his death bed while alive, who, when he is told of the promotion of his sons to honour, or of the increase of their worldly substance, takes no notice of it; either being deprived of his senses by the disease upon him; or through the greatness of his pains and agonies, or the intenseness of his thoughts about a future state, does not notice what is told him, nor rejoice at it; which in the time of health would have been pleasing to him: but the first sense seems best:
and they are brought low, that is, his sons; or "are diminished" u; lessened in their numbers, one taken off after another, and so his family decreases; or they come into low circumstances of life, are reduced in the world, and brought to straits and difficulties, to want and poverty:
but he perceiveth it not of them; he is not sensible of their troubles, and so not grieved at them; see Isa 63:16; or when he is told of them on his death bed, he does not take notice of them, or regard them, having enough to grapple with himself, and his mind intent on his everlasting state, or carried above them in the views of the love, grace, and covenant of God; see 2Sa 23:5.

Gill: Job 14:22 - -- But his flesh upon him shall have pain,.... Either he shall be chastened with strong pains on his sick and dying bed; which is the reason why he neith...
But his flesh upon him shall have pain,.... Either he shall be chastened with strong pains on his sick and dying bed; which is the reason why he neither rejoices at the happiness of his family, nor is distressed at their misfortunes; having so much pain in his flesh and bones to endure himself; or, as Gussetius x renders it, "for this" his flesh and soul shall have pain and grief while he lives, because he cannot know how it will be with his family when he is dead; but rather this is to be understood of a man when dead; and so it is a continuation of the description of death, or of the state of the dead; thus Aben Ezra interprets it of his flesh upon him, that is, his body shall melt away, rot and corrupt, meaning in the grave; so the word is used of marring and destroying, in 2Ki 3:19, to which the Targum inclines,
"but his flesh, because of worms upon him, shall grieve;''
and so Jarchi, troublesome is the worm to a dead man as a needle in quick flesh; pain and grief are by a prosopopoeia or personification attributed to a dead body; signifying, that could it be sensible of its case, it would be painful and grievous to it:
and his soul within him shall mourn; either while he lives, because of his afflictions and terrors, the days being come in which he has no pleasure, and the time of death drawing nigh; or his dead body, as the word is used in Psa 16:10; said to mourn by the same figure; or his soul, because of his body being dead; or rather his breath, which at death fails and pines away y.

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NET Notes: Job 14:21 The verb is בִּין (bin, “to perceive; to discern”). The parallelism between “know” and “pe...

NET Notes: Job 14:22 In this verse Job is expressing the common view of life beyond death, namely, that in Sheol there is no contact with the living, only separation, but ...
Geneva Bible -> Job 14:22
Geneva Bible: Job 14:22 But his ( l ) flesh upon him shall have pain, and his soul within him shall mourn.
( l ) Yet while he is in pain and misery.

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TSK Synopsis -> Job 14:1-22
TSK Synopsis: Job 14:1-22 - --1 Job entreats God for favour, by the shortness of life, and certainty of death.7 He waits for his change.16 By sin the creature is subject to corrupt...
MHCC -> Job 14:16-22
MHCC: Job 14:16-22 - --Job's faith and hope spake, and grace appeared to revive; but depravity again prevailed. He represents God as carrying matters to extremity against hi...
Matthew Henry -> Job 14:16-22
Matthew Henry: Job 14:16-22 - -- Job here returns to his complaints; and, though he is not without hope of future bliss, he finds it very hard to get over his present grievances. I....
Keil-Delitzsch -> Job 14:20-22
Keil-Delitzsch: Job 14:20-22 - --
20 Thou siezest him for ever, then he passeth away;
Thou changest his countenance and castest him forth.
21 If his sons come to honour, he knoweth...
Constable: Job 4:1--14:22 - --B. The First Cycle of Speeches between Job and His Three Friends chs. 4-14
The two soliloquies of Job (c...

Constable: Job 12:1--14:22 - --6. Job's first reply to Zophar chs. 12-14
In these chapters Job again rebutted his friends and t...
