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day - Even at this time, notwithstanding all your pretended consolations.

Wesley: Job 23:3 - -- I desire nothing more than his acquaintance and presence; but alas, he hides his face from me.
I desire nothing more than his acquaintance and presence; but alas, he hides his face from me.

To his throne or judgment - seat to plead my cause before him.
JFB: Job 23:2 - -- Implying, perhaps, that the debate was carried on through more days than one (see Introduction).
Implying, perhaps, that the debate was carried on through more days than one (see Introduction).


Is so heavy that I cannot relieve myself adequately by groaning.


I would have abundance of arguments to adduce.
Clarke: Job 23:2 - -- Even to-day is my complaint bitter - Job goes on to maintain his own innocence, and shows that he has derived neither conviction nor consolation fro...
Even to-day is my complaint bitter - Job goes on to maintain his own innocence, and shows that he has derived neither conviction nor consolation from the discourses of his friends. He grants that his complaint is bitter; but states that, loud as it may be, the affliction which he endures is heavier than his complaints are loud. Mr. Good translates: "And still is my complaint rebellion?"Do ye construe my lamentations over my unparalleled sufferings as rebellion against God? This, in fact, they had done from the beginning: and the original will justify the version of Mr. Good; for

Clarke: Job 23:3 - -- O that I knew where I might find him! - This and the following verse may be read thus: "Who will give me the knowledge of God, that I may find him o...
O that I knew where I might find him! - This and the following verse may be read thus: "Who will give me the knowledge of God, that I may find him out? I would come to his establishment; (the place or way in which he has promised to communicate himself); I would exhibit, in detail, my judgment (the cause I wish to be tried) before his face; and my mouth would I fill with convincing or decisive arguments;"arguments drawn from his common method of saving sinners, which I should prove applied fully to my case. Hence the confidence with which he speaks, Job 23:6.
Defender -> Job 23:3
Defender: Job 23:3 - -- This poignant cry is bound to be answered eventually, even though it seems long delayed, for God "is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him" (Heb...
This poignant cry is bound to be answered eventually, even though it seems long delayed, for God "is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him" (Heb 11:6)."
TSK: Job 23:2 - -- my complaint : Job 6:2, Job 10:1; Lam 3:19, Lam 3:20; Psa 77:2-9
stroke : Heb. hand
heavier : Job 11:6

TSK: Job 23:3 - -- Oh that : Job 13:3, Job 16:21, Job 40:1-5; Isa 26:8; Jer 14:7
where : Isa 55:6, Isa 55:7; 2Co 5:19, 2Co 5:20; Heb 4:6
that I might : Job 31:35-37

TSK: Job 23:4 - -- order : Job 13:18, Job 37:19; Psa 43:1; Isa 43:26
fill my mouth : Gen 18:25-32, Gen 32:12; Exo 32:12, Exo 32:13; Num 14:13-19; Jos 7:8, Jos 7:9; Psa 2...

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Barnes: Job 23:2 - -- Even to-day - At the present time. I am not relieved. You afford me no consolation. All that you say only aggravates my woes. My complaint...
Even to-day - At the present time. I am not relieved. You afford me no consolation. All that you say only aggravates my woes.
My complaint - See the notes at Job 21:3.
Bitter - Sad, melancholy, distressing. The meaning is, not that he made bitter complaints in the sense which those words would naturally convey, or that he meant to find fault with God, but that his case was a hard one. His friends furnished him no relief, and he had in vain endeavored to bring his cause before God. This is now, as he proceeds to state, the principal cause of his difficulty. He knows not where to find God; he cannot get his cause before him.
My stroke - Margin, as in Hebrew "hand;"that is, the hand that is upon me, or the calamity that is inflicted upon me. The hand is represented as the instrument of inflicting punishment, or causing affliction; see the notes at Job 19:21.
Heavier than my groaning - My sighs bear no proportion to my sufferings. They are no adequate expression of my woes. If you think I complain; if I am heard to groan, yet the sufferings which I endure are far beyond what these would secm to indicate. Sighs and groans are not improper. They are prompted by nature, and they furnish "some"relief to a sufferer. But they should not be:
(1) with a spirit of murmuring or complaining;
(2) they should not be beyond what our sufferings demand, or the proper expression of our sufferings. They should not be such as to lead others to suppose we suffer more than we actually do.
(3) they should - when they are extorted from us by the severity of suffering - lead us go look to that world where no groan will ever be heard.

Barnes: Job 23:3 - -- Oh that I knew where I might find him! - Where I might find "God."He had often expressed a wish to bring his cause directly before God, and to ...
Oh that I knew where I might find him! - Where I might find "God."He had often expressed a wish to bring his cause directly before God, and to be permitted to plead his cause there; see Job 13:3, note; Job 13:20, notes. But this he had not yet been able to do. The argument had been with his three friends, and he saw that there was no use in attempting further to convince them. If he could get the cause before God, and be allowed go plead it there, he felt assured that justice would be done him. But he had not been able to do this. God had not come forth in any visible and public manner as he wished, so that the cause could be fairly tried before such a tribunal, and he was in darkness. The "language"used here will express the condition of a pious man in the times of spiritual darkness. Hc cannot find God. He has no near access as he once had to him. In such a state he anxiously seeks to find God, but he cannot. There is no light and no comfort to his soul. This language may further describe the state of one who is conscious of uprightness, and who is exposed to the suspicion or the unkind remarks of the world. His character is attacked; his motives are impugned; his designs are suspected, and no one is disposed to do him justice. In such a state, he feels that "God"alone will do him justice. "He"knows the sincerity of his heart, and he can safely commit his cause to him. It is always the privilege of the calumniated and the slandered to make an appeal to the divine tribunal, and to feel that whatever injustice our fellow-men may be disposed to do us, there is One who will never do a wrong.
That I might come even to his seat - To his throne, or tribunal. Job wished to carry the cause directly before him. Probably he desired some manifestation of God - such as he was afterward favored with - when God would declare his judgment on the whole matter of the controversy.

Barnes: Job 23:4 - -- I would order my cause before him - Compare the notes at Isa 43:26. That is, I would arrange my arguments, or plead my cause, as one does in a ...
I would order my cause before him - Compare the notes at Isa 43:26. That is, I would arrange my arguments, or plead my cause, as one does in a court of justice. I would suggest the considerations which would show that I am not guilty in the sense charged by my friends, and that notwithstanding my calamities, I am the real friend of God.
And fill my mouth with arguments - Probably he means that he would appeal to the evidence furnished by a life of benevolence and justice, that he was not a hypocrite or a man of distinguished wickedness, as his friends maintained.
Poole: Job 23:2 - -- i.e. Even at this time, notwithstanding all your promises and pretended consolations, I find no ease or satisfaction in all your discourses; and the...
i.e. Even at this time, notwithstanding all your promises and pretended consolations, I find no ease or satisfaction in all your discourses; and therefore in this and the following chapters Job seldom applies his discourse to his friends, but only addresseth his speech to God, or bewaileth himself.
Is my complaint bitter i.e. I do bitterly complain, and have just cause to do so. But this clause is and may be otherwise rendered, Even still (Heb. at this day ) is my complaint called or accounted by you rebellion or bitterness , or the rage of an exasperated mind? Do you still pass such harsh censures upon me after all my declarations and solemn protestations of my innocency?
My stroke Heb. my hand , passively, i.e. the hand or stroke of God upon me, as the same phrase is used, Psa 77:2 ; and mine arrow , Job 34:6 .
Is heavier than my groaning i.e. doth exceed all my complaints and expressions; so far are you mistaken, that think I complain more than I have cause. Some render the words thus, my hands are heavy (i.e. feeble and hanging down, as the phrase is, Heb 12:12 . My strength and spirit faileth) because of my groaning.

Poole: Job 23:3 - -- Where I might find him to wit, God, as his friends well knew, and the thing itself showeth. Thou biddest me acquaint myself with him , Job 22:21 . I...
Where I might find him to wit, God, as his friends well knew, and the thing itself showeth. Thou biddest me acquaint myself with him , Job 22:21 . I desire nothing more than his acquaintance and presence; but, alas, he hides his face from me that I cannot see him, nor come near him.
To his seat i.e. to his throne or judgment-seat, to plead my cause before him, as it here follows, Job 22:4 , not upon terms of strict justice, but upon those terms of grace and mercy upon which God is pleased to deal with his sinful creatures: see before, Job 9:34,35 16:21 17:3 . And this my confidence may be some evidence that I am not such a gross hypocrite as you imagine me to be.

Poole: Job 23:4 - -- I would orderly declare the things which concern and prove the right of my cause; not only debating the controversy between my friends and me, concer...
I would orderly declare the things which concern and prove the right of my cause; not only debating the controversy between my friends and me, concerning my sincerity or hypocrisy before God, as a witness or judge; but also pleading with God as a party, and modestly inquiring whether he doth not deal more rigorously with me than I might reasonably expect, wherein I desire no other judge but himself.
Fill my mouth with arguments to prove my innocency and sincerity towards God, and consequently that am severely used.
See Philpot: THE ORDERING OF THE CAUSE BEFORE THE MERCY-SEAT Job 23:3-4

PBC: Job 23:4 - -- God’s conversation with Job helped {Job 38:1-7} Job to widen his perspective and to submit his cause to God without qualification.
God’s conversation with Job helped {Job 38:1-7} Job to widen his perspective and to submit his cause to God without qualification.
Haydock -> Job 23:2
Haydock: Job 23:2 - -- Bitterness. Instead of comfort, he only meets with insult from his friends. He therefore appeals to God, (Worthington) but with fear. (Calmet) ---...
Bitterness. Instead of comfort, he only meets with insult from his friends. He therefore appeals to God, (Worthington) but with fear. (Calmet) ---
Scourge, is not in Hebrew. (Menochius) ---
But it explains the meaning of "my hand," (Haydock) or the heavy chastisement (St. Gregory) which I endure. (Menochius)
Gill: Job 23:1 - -- Then Job answered and said. In reply to Eliphaz; for though he does not direct his discourse to him, nor take any notice of his friends; yet, as a pro...
Then Job answered and said. In reply to Eliphaz; for though he does not direct his discourse to him, nor take any notice of his friends; yet, as a proof of his innocence, against his and their accusations and charges, he desires no other than to have his cause laid before God himself, by whom he had no doubt he should be acquitted; and, contrary to their notions, he shows in this chapter, that he, a righteous man, was afflicted by God, according to his unchangeable decrees; and, in the next, that wicked men greatly prosper; so that what he herein says may be considered as a sufficient answer to Eliphaz and his friends; and after which no more is said to him by them, excepting a few words dropped by Bildad.

Gill: Job 23:2 - -- Even today is my complaint bitter,.... Job's afflictions were continued on him long; he was made to possess months of vanity; and, as he had been com...
Even today is my complaint bitter,.... Job's afflictions were continued on him long; he was made to possess months of vanity; and, as he had been complaining ever since they were upon him, he still continued to complain to that day, "even" after all the comforts his friends pretended to administer to him, as Jarchi observes: his complaints were concerning his afflictions, and his friends' ill usage of him under them; not of injustice in God in afflicting him, though he thought he dealt severely with him; but of the greatness of his afflictions, they being intolerable, and his strength unequal to them, and therefore death was more eligible to him than life; and he complained of God's hiding his face from him, and not hearing him, nor showing him wherefore he contended with him, nor admitting an hearing of his cause before him: and this complaint of his was "bitter": the things he complained of were such, bitter afflictions, like the waters of Marah the Israelites could not drink of, Exo 15:23; there was a great deal of wormwood and gall in his affliction and misery; and it was in a bitter way, in the bitterness of his soul, he made his complaint; and, what made his case still worse, he could not utter any complaint, so much as a sigh or a groan, but it was reckoned "provocation", or "stubbornness and rebellion", by his friends; so some render the word x, as Mr. Broughton does, "this day my sighing is holden a rebellion": there is indeed a great deal of rebellion oftentimes in the hearts, words and actions, conduct and behaviour, even of good men under afflictions, as were in the Israelites in the wilderness; and a difficult thing it is to complain without being guilty of it; though complaints may be without it, yet repinings and murmurings are always attended with it:
and my stroke is heavier than my groaning; or "my hand" y, meaning either his own hand, which was heavy, and hung down, his spirits failing, his strength being exhausted, and so his hands weak, feeble, and remiss, that he could not hold them up through his afflictions, and his groanings under them, see Psa 102:5; or the hand of God upon him, his afflicting hand, which had touched him and pressed hard upon him, and lay heavy, and was heavier than his groanings showed; though he groaned much, he did not groan more, nor so much, as his afflictions called for; and therefore it was no wonder that his complaint was bitter, nor should it be reckoned rebellion and provocation; see Job 6:2.

Gill: Job 23:3 - -- O that I knew where I might find him,.... That is, God, who is understood, though not expressed, a relative without an antecedent, as in Psa 87:1; Jar...
O that I knew where I might find him,.... That is, God, who is understood, though not expressed, a relative without an antecedent, as in Psa 87:1; Jarchi supplies, and interprets it, "my Judge", from Job 23:7; and certain it is Job did desire to find God as a judge sitting on his throne, doing right, that he might have justice done to him: indeed he might be under the hidings of God's face, which added to his affliction, and made it the heavier; in which case, the people of God are at a loss to know where he is, and "how" to find him, as Mr. Broughton renders the words here; they know that he is everywhere, and fills heaven and earth with his presence; that their God is in the heavens, his throne is there, yea, the heaven is his throne; that he is in his church, and among his people, where they are gathered together in his name, to wait upon him, and to worship him; and that he is to be found in Christ, as a God gracious and merciful; all which Job knew, but might, as they in such circumstances are, be at a loss how to come at sensible communion with him; for, when he hides his face, who can behold him? yet they cannot content themselves without seeking after him, and making use of all means of finding him, as Job did, Job 23:8; see Son 3:1;
that I might come even to his seat; either his mercy seat, from whence he communes with his people, the throne of his grace, where he sits as the God of grace, dispensing his grace to his people, to help them in time of need; the way to which is Christ, and in which all believers may come to it with boldness, in his name, through his blood, righteousness, and sacrifice; they may come up even to it, in the exercise of faith and hope, though the distance is great, as between heaven and earth, yet by faith they can come into the holiest of all, and by hope enter within the vail; and though the difficulties and discouragements are many, arising from their sins and transgressions: or else his judgment seat, at which no man can appear and stand, without a righteousness, or without a better than his own, by which none can be justified in the sight of God; who, if strict to mark iniquity, the best of men cannot stand before him, at his bar of justice; indeed, in the righteousness of Christ, a believer may come up to the judgment seat of God, and to him as Judge of all, and not be afraid, but stand before him with confidence, since that is sufficient to answer for him, and fully acquit him: but Job here seems to have a peculiar respect to his case, in controversy between him and his friends, and is so fully assured of the justness of his cause, and relying on his innocence, he wishes for nothing more than that he could find God sitting on a throne of justice, before whom his cause might be brought and heard, not doubting in the least but that he should be acquitted; so far was he from hiding himself from God, or pleasing himself with the thoughts that God was in the height of heaven, and knew nothing of him and his conduct, and could not judge through the dark clouds, which were a covering to him, that he could not see him; that he was not afraid to appear before him, and come up even to his seat, if he knew but where and how he could; see Job 22:12.

Gill: Job 23:4 - -- I would order my cause before him,.... Either, as a praying person, direct his prayer to him, and set it in order before him, see Psa 5:3; or else as...
I would order my cause before him,.... Either, as a praying person, direct his prayer to him, and set it in order before him, see Psa 5:3; or else as pleading in his own defence, and in justification of himself; not of his person before God, setting his works of righteousness in order before him, and pleading his justification on the foot of them; for, by these no flesh living can be justified before God; but of his cause, for, as a man may vindicate his cause before men, and clear himself from aspersions cast upon him, as Samuel did, 1Sa 12:5; so he may before God, with respect to the charges he is falsely loaded with, and may appeal to him for justice, and desire he would stir up himself, and awake to his judgment, even to his cause, and plead it against those that strive with him, as David did, Psa 35:1;
and fill my mouth with arguments; either in prayer, as a good man may; not with such as are taken from his goodness and righteousness, but from the person, office, grace, blood, righteousness, and sacrifice of Christ, and from the declarations of God's grace, and the promises of his word; or else as in a court of judicature, bringing forth his strong reasons, and giving proofs of his innocence, such as would be demonstrative, even convincing to all that should hear, and be not only proofs for him, and in his favour, but reproofs also, as the word c signifies, to those that contended with him.

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NET Notes: Job 23:1 Job answers Eliphaz, but not until he introduces new ideas for his own case with God. His speech unfolds in three parts: Job’s longing to meet G...

NET Notes: Job 23:2 The preposition can take this meaning; it could be also translated simply “upon.” R. Gordis (Job, 260) reads the preposition “more t...

NET Notes: Job 23:3 Or “his place of judgment.” The word is from כּוּן (kun, “to prepare; to arrange”) in the Polel ...

NET Notes: Job 23:4 The word מִשְׁפָּט (mishpat) is normally “judgment; decision.” But in these contexts...
Geneva Bible -> Job 23:2
Geneva Bible: Job 23:2 Even to day [is] my complaint ( a ) bitter: my stroke is heavier than my groaning.
( a ) He shows the just cause of his complaining and concerning th...

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TSK Synopsis -> Job 23:1-17
TSK Synopsis: Job 23:1-17 - --1 Job longs to appear before God,6 in confidence of his mercy.8 God, who is invisible, observes our ways.11 Job's innocency.13 God's decree is immutab...
MHCC -> Job 23:1-7
MHCC: Job 23:1-7 - --Job appeals from his friends to the just judgement of God. He wants to have his cause tried quickly. Blessed be God, we may know where to find him. He...
Matthew Henry -> Job 23:1-7
Matthew Henry: Job 23:1-7 - -- Job is confident that he has wrong done him by his friends, and therefore, ill as he is, he will not give up the cause, nor let them have the last w...
Keil-Delitzsch -> Job 23:1-5
Keil-Delitzsch: Job 23:1-5 - --
1 Then began Job, and said:
2 Even to-day my complaint still biddeth defiance,
My hand lieth heavy upon my groaning.
3 Oh that I knew where I mig...
Constable: Job 22:1--27:23 - --D. The Third cycle of Speeches between Job and His Three Friends chs. 22-27
In round one of the debate J...

Constable: Job 23:1--24:25 - --2. Job's third reply to Eliphaz chs. 23-24
Job ignored Eliphaz's groundless charges of sin tempo...
