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Elihu’s Second Speech
34:1 Elihu answered: 34:2 “Listen to my words, you wise men; hear me, you learned men. 34:3 For the ear assesses words as the mouth tastes food. 34:4 Let us evaluate for ourselves what is right; let us come to know among ourselves what is good. 34:5 For Job says, ‘I am innocent, but God turns away my right.
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Names, People and Places, Dictionary Themes and Topics

Names, People and Places:
 · Elihu son of Tohu/Toah/Nahath; a Levite from Ephraim,a commander from Manasseh who defected to David,son of Shemaiah (Levi); a gatekeeper,brother of David and his chief officer over the tribe of Judah,son of Barachel the Buzite of the family of Ram; friend of Job
 · Job a man whose story is told in the book of Job,a man from the land of Uz in Edom


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Commentary -- Word/Phrase Notes (per phrase)

Wesley: Job 34:2 - -- The ear, is put for the mind to which things are conveyed by it.

The ear, is put for the mind to which things are conveyed by it.

Wesley: Job 34:4 - -- Not contend for victory, but for truth and equity.

Not contend for victory, but for truth and equity.

Wesley: Job 34:4 - -- Let us shew one another who hath the best cause.

Let us shew one another who hath the best cause.

Wesley: Job 34:5 - -- I am so far righteous, that I have not deserved, such hard usage from God.

I am so far righteous, that I have not deserved, such hard usage from God.

Wesley: Job 34:5 - -- So Job had said, Job 27:2, he denies me that which is just and equal, to give me a fair hearing.

So Job had said, Job 27:2, he denies me that which is just and equal, to give me a fair hearing.

JFB: Job 34:1 - -- (Job 34:1-37)

(Job 34:1-37)

JFB: Job 34:1 - -- Proceeded.

Proceeded.

JFB: Job 34:2 - -- This chapter is addressed also to the "friends" as the thirty-third chapter to Job alone.

This chapter is addressed also to the "friends" as the thirty-third chapter to Job alone.

JFB: Job 34:3 - -- (See on Job 12:11; Job 33:2).

(See on Job 12:11; Job 33:2).

JFB: Job 34:4 - -- Let us select among the conflicting sentiments advanced, what will stand the test of examination.

Let us select among the conflicting sentiments advanced, what will stand the test of examination.

JFB: Job 34:5 - -- My right. Job's own words (Job 13:18; Job 27:2).

My right. Job's own words (Job 13:18; Job 27:2).

Clarke: Job 34:3 - -- The ear trieth words - I do not think, with Calmet, that the inward ear, or judgment, is meant simply. The Asiatics valued themselves on the nice an...

The ear trieth words - I do not think, with Calmet, that the inward ear, or judgment, is meant simply. The Asiatics valued themselves on the nice and harmonious collection of words, both in speaking and in writing; and perhaps it will be found here that Elihu labors as much for harmonious versification as for pious and weighty sentiments. To connect sense with sound was an object of general pursuit among the Hebrew, Arabic, and Persian poets; and so fond are the latter of euphony, that they often sacrifice both sense and sentiment to it; and some of the Greek poets are not exempt from this fault.

Clarke: Job 34:4 - -- Let us choose to us judgment - Let us not seek the applause of men, nor contend for victory. Let our aim be to obtain correct views and notions of a...

Let us choose to us judgment - Let us not seek the applause of men, nor contend for victory. Let our aim be to obtain correct views and notions of all things; and let us labor to find out what is good.

Clarke: Job 34:5 - -- Job hath said, I am righteous - Job had certainly said the words attributed to him by Elihu, particularly in Job 27:2, etc., but it was in vindicati...

Job hath said, I am righteous - Job had certainly said the words attributed to him by Elihu, particularly in Job 27:2, etc., but it was in vindication of his aspersed character that he had asserted his own righteousness, and in a different sense to that in which Elihu appears to take it up. He asserted that he was righteous quoad the charges his friends had brought against him. And he never intimated that he had at all times a pure heart, and had never transgressed the laws of his Maker. It is true also that he said, God hath taken away my judgment; but he most obviously does not mean to charge God with injustice, but to show that he had dealt with him in a way wholly mysterious, and not according to the ordinary dispensations of his providence; and that he did not interpose in his behalf, while his friends were overwhelming him with obloquy and reproach.

TSK: Job 34:2 - -- Pro 1:5; 1Co 10:15, 1Co 14:20

TSK: Job 34:3 - -- the ear : Job 6:30, Job 12:11; 1Co 2:15; Heb 5:14 mouth : Heb. palate, Job 31:30, Job 33:2 *marg.

the ear : Job 6:30, Job 12:11; 1Co 2:15; Heb 5:14

mouth : Heb. palate, Job 31:30, Job 33:2 *marg.

TSK: Job 34:4 - -- choose : Job 34:36; Jdg 19:30, Jdg 20:7; 1Co 6:2-5; Gal 2:11-14; 1Th 5:21 know : Isa 11:2-5; Joh 7:24; Rom 12:2

TSK: Job 34:5 - -- I : Job 10:7, Job 11:4, Job 16:17, Job 29:14, Job 32:1, Job 33:9 God : Job 9:17, Job 27:2

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Commentary -- Word/Phrase Notes (per Verse)

Barnes: Job 34:1 - -- Furthermore, Elihu answered and said - That is, evidently, after a pause to see if Job had anything to reply. The word answered in the Scriptur...

Furthermore, Elihu answered and said - That is, evidently, after a pause to see if Job had anything to reply. The word answered in the Scriptures often means "to begin a discourse,"though nothing had been said by others; see Job 3:2; Isa 14:10; Zec 1:10; Zec 3:4; Zec 4:11-12. Sometimes it is used with reference to a subject, meaning that one replied to what could be suggested on the opposite side. Here it maybe understood either in the general sense of beginning a discourse, or more probably as replying to the sentiments which Job had advanced in the debate with his friends.

Barnes: Job 34:2 - -- Hear my words, O ye wise men - Addressing particularly the three friends of Job. The previous chapter had been addressed to Job himself. He had...

Hear my words, O ye wise men - Addressing particularly the three friends of Job. The previous chapter had been addressed to Job himself. He had stated to him his views of the design of affliction, and he had nothing to reply. He now addresses himself to his friends, with a particular view of examining some of the sentiments which Job had advanced, and of showing where he was in error. He addresses them as "wise men,"or sages, and as endowed with "knowledge,"to conciliate their attention, and because he regarded them as qualified to understand the difficult subject which he proposed to explain.

Barnes: Job 34:3 - -- For the ear trieth words - Ascertains their meaning, and especially determines what words are worth regarding. The object of this is, to fix th...

For the ear trieth words - Ascertains their meaning, and especially determines what words are worth regarding. The object of this is, to fix the attention on what he was about to say; to get the ear so that every word should make its proper impression. The word ear in this place, however, seems not to be used to denote the external organ, but the whole faculty of hearing. It is by hearing that the meaning of what is said is determined, as it is by the taste that the quality of food is discerned.

As the mouth tasteth meat - Margin, as in Hebrew "palate."The meaning is, as the organ of taste determines the nature of the various articles of food. The same figure is used by Job in Job 12:11.

Barnes: Job 34:4 - -- Let us choose to us judgment - That is, let us examine and explore what is true and right. Amidst the conflicting opinions, and the sentiments ...

Let us choose to us judgment - That is, let us examine and explore what is true and right. Amidst the conflicting opinions, and the sentiments which have been advanced, let us find out what will abide the test of close investigation.

Barnes: Job 34:5 - -- For Job hath said, I am righteous - see Job 13:18, "I know that I shall be justified;"compare Job 23:10-11, where he says, if he was tried he w...

For Job hath said, I am righteous - see Job 13:18, "I know that I shall be justified;"compare Job 23:10-11, where he says, if he was tried he would come forth as gold. Elihu may have also referred to the general course of remark which he had pursued as vindicating himself.

And God hath taken away my judgment - This sentiment is found in Job 27:2; see the notes at that place.

Poole: Job 34:2 - -- O ye wise men who are here present, do you judge of the truth and reason of what I have said, and am further to say; for I am willing to submit all t...

O ye wise men who are here present, do you judge of the truth and reason of what I have said, and am further to say; for I am willing to submit all to the judgment of the truly wise.

Poole: Job 34:3 - -- i.e. Man’ s mind judgeth Of things spoken and heard. The ear the sense of discipline, is put for the mind, to which things are conveyed by it...

i.e. Man’ s mind judgeth Of things spoken and heard.

The ear the sense of discipline, is put for the mind, to which things are conveyed by it. See Poole "Job 12:11" .

Poole: Job 34:4 - -- Judgment i.e. justice and equity; judgment being oft synecdochically used for just judgment, as Job 8:3 19:7 32:9 Psa 37:28 . Let us not contend for ...

Judgment i.e. justice and equity; judgment being oft synecdochically used for just judgment, as Job 8:3 19:7 32:9 Psa 37:28 . Let us not contend for victory, but only for truth and justice. This shall be my only care and business

Poole: Job 34:5 - -- I am righteous either, 1. I am perfectly righteous. But this Job did not say, but the contrary, Job 9:2,3 14:4 . Or, 2. I am a sincere person, no h...

I am righteous either,

1. I am perfectly righteous. But this Job did not say, but the contrary, Job 9:2,3 14:4 . Or,

2. I am a sincere person, no hypocrite, as my friends made me. But this Elihu doth not deny. Or,

3. I am so far righteous, and have been so holy and blameless in my life, that I have not deserved, nor had any reason to expect, such hard usage from God. And this Job had oft intimated, and Elihu doth justly blame him for it, that he blazoned his own righteousness with tacit reflections upon God for dealing so severely with him.

God hath taken away my judgment for so Job had said, Job 27:2 ; i.e. he denies me that which is but just and equal, to give me a fair hearing, to suffer me to plead my cause with or before him, to show me the reasons of his contending with me, and what sins besides common infirmities I have been guilty of, whereby I have deserved such extraordinary judgments; which Elihu justly taxeth him with as a very irreverent and presumptuous expression.

Haydock: Job 34:3 - -- Taste. The most accurate philosophers attribute this faculty to the tongue, (Calmet) rather than to the throat, guttur. Hebrew, "mouth or palat...

Taste. The most accurate philosophers attribute this faculty to the tongue, (Calmet) rather than to the throat, guttur. Hebrew, "mouth or palate." (Haydock) ---

But Eliu speaks agreeably to the notions of the vulgar. (Calmet) ---

Intellectus saporum cæteris est in prima lingua, homini et in palato. (Pliny, [Natural History?] xi. 37.)

Haydock: Job 34:5 - -- Judgment. Chap. xxvii. 2. Job had used this expression, but only to intimate that strict justice did not take place, as he thought his faults had n...

Judgment. Chap. xxvii. 2. Job had used this expression, but only to intimate that strict justice did not take place, as he thought his faults had not deserved so severe a chastisement. He did not pretend that God was unjust, or that he was quite blameless; and he had so explicitly declared his sentiments, that Eliu could not well be ignorant of them. (Calmet)

Gill: Job 34:1 - -- Furthermore Elihu answered and said. It is reasonable to suppose that Elihu made a considerable pause, to see whether Job would make any reply to what...

Furthermore Elihu answered and said. It is reasonable to suppose that Elihu made a considerable pause, to see whether Job would make any reply to what he had delivered, or object to what he had said; which he gave him free liberty to do, if he had anything upon his mind: but perceiving he was not inclined to return any answer to him, he went on with his discourse; and which is called a further answer to him: for though Joh had made no reply to which this could be called an answer, yet as there were several things remaining for Elihu to answer to, and which he proposed to answer and did, it may with great propriety here be said that he answered him.

Gill: Job 34:2 - -- Hear my words, O ye wise men,.... This is not an address to Job's three friends, as some think; for Elihu had expressed his displeasure at them, in c...

Hear my words, O ye wise men,.... This is not an address to Job's three friends, as some think; for Elihu had expressed his displeasure at them, in condemning Job without convicting him, and returning solid answers to him; and therefore he should not take their method of dealing with him, but take another; and plainly suggests that wisdom was not with them, nor taught by them; and therefore, as he could not give flattering titles to men, it could not well be thought that he should address them as wise and understanding men, unless indeed in an ironic way, as some choose to interpret it; see Job 32:3. Rather therefore some bystanders are here spoken to, whom Elihu knew to be men of wisdom and knowledge, &c. as it follows,

and give ear unto me, ye that have knowledge; and as they were endued not only with natural and political wisdom and knowledge, but with that which is divine and spiritual, they were proper judges of the affair in controversy, and could best discern whether what Elihu delivered was right or wrong, and to the purpose or not. And besides, though they had a large share of wisdom and knowledge, yet it was but imperfect; and the most wise and knowing may become more so, and that sometimes by means of their inferiors and juniors: and therefore Elihu craves their attention to what he had said or should say, though he was but a young man, and they aged, and men of great geniuses and abilities; and the rather he might be pressing on them to be his hearers and judges, because, generally speaking, such, as they are the most judicious, so the most candid hearers.

Gill: Job 34:3 - -- For the ear trieth words,.... Not only the musical sound of them, the goodness of the language and diction, and the grammatical construction of them, ...

For the ear trieth words,.... Not only the musical sound of them, the goodness of the language and diction, and the grammatical construction of them, but the sense of them, and whether the matter of them is good or not; that they are sound speech, which cannot be condemned, or unsound; whether they are right or wrong, agreeably to right reason, sound doctrine, and the word of God; for there are words and words, some the words of men, others the words of God. A sanctified ear tries these; but then men must have such ears to hear, and be attentive to what they hear, and retain it; hear internally as well as externally; and which a man does when his ears are opened by the Lord, from whom are the hearing ear and seeing eye; and such try what they hear, distinguish between good and bad, approve truth and receive it, and retain and hold it fast:

as the mouth tasteth meat; words and doctrines are like meat, some good and some bad; and such that have a good taste try them, either a rational or rather a spiritual discernment: some have no spiritual taste, their taste is not changed, and therefore cannot distinguish, nor make any good judgment of things; but others have, and these discern the difference, relish truth, savour the things that be of God, taste the good word of God, and esteem it more than their necessary food; and it is sweeter to them than the honey or the honeycomb. Such Elihu judged these men to be he addressed, and therefore desired their attention to what he had to say.

Gill: Job 34:4 - -- Let us choose to us judgments,.... Take the part of the question or controversy in which truth and justice lie, and he doubtless has respect to the pr...

Let us choose to us judgments,.... Take the part of the question or controversy in which truth and justice lie, and he doubtless has respect to the present controversy with Job;

let us know among ourselves what is good; agree upon that which is best to be done in the present case, what judgment to be made of the dealings of God with Job, and his behaviour under them, and what the best advice to give to him.

Gill: Job 34:5 - -- For Job hath said, I am righteous,.... Not in express words, but what amounted to it: no doubt he was a righteous man in an evangelic sense, being jus...

For Job hath said, I am righteous,.... Not in express words, but what amounted to it: no doubt he was a righteous man in an evangelic sense, being justified by the righteousness of Christ, as all the Old Testament saints were, who looked to him and believed in him as the Lord their righteousness, and said, as the church in those times did, "surely in the Lord have I righteousness and strength"; Isa 45:24. And moreover he was an upright man, to which the Lord himself bore testimony, Job 1:8; and had the truth of grace in him, that "new man which is created in righteousness and true holiness"; and also lived an holy life and conversation; but then he did not say or think that he was righteous in or of himself, or so as to be free from sin: Job could not judge or speak thus of himself, which would be contrary to what he expressly declares, Job 7:20; though it must be owned, that he thought himself so righteous, holy, and good, that he ought not to have been afflicted in the manner he was; in which sense it is probable Elihu understood him: and besides, these words are not to be taken separately, but in connection with what follows, which shows Job's sense, and how Elihu understood him, that though he was a righteous person, he had not justice done him:

and God hath taken away my judgment; which words he did say; see Gill on Job 27:2; or, as Mr. Broughton renders the words, "the Omnipotent keeps back my right"; does not vindicate my cause, nor so much as give it a hearing, nor lets me know why he contends with me; and, though I call for justice to be done, cannot be heard, Job 19:7; a like complaint of the church in Isa 40:27.

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Commentary -- Verse Notes / Footnotes

NET Notes: Job 34:1 This speech of Elihu focuses on defending God. It can be divided into these sections: Job is irreligious (2-9), God is just (10-15), God is impartial ...

NET Notes: Job 34:2 The Hebrew word means “the men who know,” and without a complement it means “to possess knowledge.”

NET Notes: Job 34:3 Or “palate”; the Hebrew term refers to the tongue or to the mouth in general.

NET Notes: Job 34:4 The word is מִשְׁפָּט (mishpat) again, with the sense of what is right or just.

NET Notes: Job 34:5 Heb “righteous,” but in this context it means to be innocent or in the right.

Geneva Bible: Job 34:2 Hear my words, O ye ( a ) wise [men]; and give ear unto me, ye that have knowledge. ( a ) Which are esteemed wise by the world.

Geneva Bible: Job 34:4 Let us choose to us ( b ) judgment: let us know among ourselves what [is] good. ( b ) Let us examine the matter uprightly.

Geneva Bible: Job 34:5 For Job hath said, I am righteous: and God hath taken ( c ) away my judgment. ( c ) That is, has afflicted me without measure.

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Commentary -- Verse Range Notes

TSK Synopsis: Job 34:1-37 - --1 Elihu accuses Job for charging God with injustice.10 God omnipotent cannot be unjust.31 Man must humble himself unto God.34 Elihu reproves Job.

MHCC: Job 34:1-9 - --Elihu calls upon those present to decide with him upon Job's words. The plainest Christian, whose mind is enlightened, whose heart is sanctified by th...

Matthew Henry: Job 34:1-9 - -- Here, I. Elihu humbly addresses himself to the auditors, and endeavours, like an orator, to gain their good-will and their favourable attention. 1. ...

Keil-Delitzsch: Job 34:1-4 - -- 1 Then began Elihu and said: 2 Hear, ye wise men, my words, And ye experienced ones, give ear to me! 3 For the ear trieth words, As the palate t...

Keil-Delitzsch: Job 34:5-9 - -- 5 For Job hath said: "I am guiltless, "And God hath put aside my right. 6 "Shall I lie in spite of my right, "Incurable is mine arrow without tra...

Constable: Job 32:1--37:24 - --F. Elihu's Speeches chs. 32-37 Many critical scholars believe that a later editor inserted chapters 32-3...

Constable: Job 32:6--34:1 - --2. Elihu's first speech 32:6-33:33 Before Elihu began presenting his views (ch. 33), he first ha...

Constable: Job 34:1-37 - --3. Elihu's second speech ch. 34 Elihu sought to refute Job's charge that God was unjust in this ...

Constable: Job 34:1-9 - --Job's plea of innocence 34:1-9 Elihu reminded the three older counselors that Job had cl...

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Introduction / Outline

JFB: Job (Book Introduction) JOB A REAL PERSON.--It has been supposed by some that the book of Job is an allegory, not a real narrative, on account of the artificial character of ...

JFB: Job (Outline) THE HOLINESS OF JOB, HIS WEALTH, &c. (Job 1:1-5) SATAN, APPEARING BEFORE GOD, FALSELY ACCUSES JOB. (Job 1:6-12) SATAN FURTHER TEMPTS JOB. (Job 2:1-8)...

TSK: Job (Book Introduction) A large aquatic animal, perhaps the extinct dinosaur, plesiosaurus, the exact meaning is unknown. Some think this to be a crocodile but from the desc...

TSK: Job 34 (Chapter Introduction) Overview Job 34:1, Elihu accuses Job for charging God with injustice; Job 34:10, God omnipotent cannot be unjust; Job 34:31, Man must humble himse...

Poole: Job 34 (Chapter Introduction) CHAPTER 34 He accuseth Job for charging God with injustice, Job 34:1-9 . God, the almighty Disposer, Governor, and Judge of the world, cannot be un...

MHCC: Job (Book Introduction) This book is so called from Job, whose prosperity, afflictions, and restoration, are here recorded. He lived soon after Abraham, or perhaps before tha...

MHCC: Job 34 (Chapter Introduction) (Job 34:1-9) Elihu accuses Job of charging God with injustice. (Job 34:10-15) God cannot be unjust. (Job 34:16-30) God's power and providence. (Job...

Matthew Henry: Job (Book Introduction) An Exposition, with Practical Observations, of The Book of Job This book of Job stands by itself, is not connected with any other, and is therefore to...

Matthew Henry: Job 34 (Chapter Introduction) Elihu, it is likely, paused awhile, to see if Job had any thing to say against his discourse in the foregoing chapter; but he sitting silent, and i...

Constable: Job (Book Introduction) Introduction Title This book, like many others in the Old Testament, got its name from...

Constable: Job (Outline) Outline I. Prologue chs. 1-2 A. Job's character 1:1-5 B. Job's calamitie...

Constable: Job Job Bibliography Andersen, Francis I. Job. Tyndale Old Testament Commentaries series. Leicester, Eng. and Downe...

Haydock: Job (Book Introduction) THE BOOK OF JOB. INTRODUCTION. This Book takes its name from the holy man, of whom it treats; who, according to the more probable opinion, was ...

Gill: Job (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO JOB This book, in the Hebrew copies, generally goes by this name, from Job, who is however the subject, if not the writer of it. In...

Gill: Job 34 (Chapter Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO JOB 34 In this chapter Elihu reassumes his discourse, and proceeds in his answer to Job, in which are first a preface exciting atte...

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