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Elihu’s Second Speech
34:1 Elihu answered: 34:2 “Listen to my words, you wise men; hear me, you learned men. 34:3 For the ear assesses words as the mouth tastes food. 34:4 Let us evaluate for ourselves what is right; let us come to know among ourselves what is good. 34:5 For Job says, ‘I am innocent, but God turns away my right. 34:6 Concerning my right, should I lie? My wound is incurable, although I am without transgression.’ 34:7 What man is like Job, who drinks derision like water! 34:8 He goes about in company with evildoers, he goes along with wicked men. 34:9 For he says, ‘It does not profit a man when he makes his delight with God.’
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Names, People and Places:
 · Elihu son of Tohu/Toah/Nahath; a Levite from Ephraim,a commander from Manasseh who defected to David,son of Shemaiah (Levi); a gatekeeper,brother of David and his chief officer over the tribe of Judah,son of Barachel the Buzite of the family of Ram; friend of Job
 · Job a man whose story is told in the book of Job,a man from the land of Uz in Edom


Dictionary Themes and Topics: WORKER; WORKFELLOW; WORKMAN | TAKE | Scoffing | SHEBNA | SCORN | RIGHT | Prudence | LIE; LYING | Job | Infidelity | Evildoers | Elihu | DESPAIR | COMPANY | Blasphemy | Arrows | more
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Wesley: Job 34:2 - -- The ear, is put for the mind to which things are conveyed by it.

The ear, is put for the mind to which things are conveyed by it.

Wesley: Job 34:4 - -- Not contend for victory, but for truth and equity.

Not contend for victory, but for truth and equity.

Wesley: Job 34:4 - -- Let us shew one another who hath the best cause.

Let us shew one another who hath the best cause.

Wesley: Job 34:5 - -- I am so far righteous, that I have not deserved, such hard usage from God.

I am so far righteous, that I have not deserved, such hard usage from God.

Wesley: Job 34:5 - -- So Job had said, Job 27:2, he denies me that which is just and equal, to give me a fair hearing.

So Job had said, Job 27:2, he denies me that which is just and equal, to give me a fair hearing.

Wesley: Job 34:6 - -- So Job had said in effect, Job 27:4-6, should I falsely accuse myself of sins of which I am not guilty? Without transgression - Without any such cryin...

So Job had said in effect, Job 27:4-6, should I falsely accuse myself of sins of which I am not guilty? Without transgression - Without any such crying, sin, as might reasonably bring down such terrible judgments upon my head.

Wesley: Job 34:7 - -- Abundantly and greedily: who doth so break forth into scornful expressions, not only against his friends, but in some sort against God himself.

Abundantly and greedily: who doth so break forth into scornful expressions, not only against his friends, but in some sort against God himself.

Wesley: Job 34:8 - -- Although I dare not say, that he is a wicked man, yet in this matter he speaks and acts like one of them.

Although I dare not say, that he is a wicked man, yet in this matter he speaks and acts like one of them.

Wesley: Job 34:9 - -- Not in express terms, but by consequence; because he said that good men were no less, nay, sometimes more miserable here than the wicked.

Not in express terms, but by consequence; because he said that good men were no less, nay, sometimes more miserable here than the wicked.

JFB: Job 34:1 - -- (Job 34:1-37)

(Job 34:1-37)

JFB: Job 34:1 - -- Proceeded.

Proceeded.

JFB: Job 34:2 - -- This chapter is addressed also to the "friends" as the thirty-third chapter to Job alone.

This chapter is addressed also to the "friends" as the thirty-third chapter to Job alone.

JFB: Job 34:3 - -- (See on Job 12:11; Job 33:2).

(See on Job 12:11; Job 33:2).

JFB: Job 34:4 - -- Let us select among the conflicting sentiments advanced, what will stand the test of examination.

Let us select among the conflicting sentiments advanced, what will stand the test of examination.

JFB: Job 34:5 - -- My right. Job's own words (Job 13:18; Job 27:2).

My right. Job's own words (Job 13:18; Job 27:2).

JFB: Job 34:6 - -- Were I to renounce my right (that is, confess myself guilty), I should die. Job virtually had said so (Job 27:4-5; Job 6:28). MAURER, not so well, "No...

Were I to renounce my right (that is, confess myself guilty), I should die. Job virtually had said so (Job 27:4-5; Job 6:28). MAURER, not so well, "Notwithstanding my right (innocence) I am treated as a liar," by God, by His afflicting me.

JFB: Job 34:6 - -- Literally, "mine arrow," namely, by which I am pierced. So "my stroke" ("hand," Job 23:2, Margin). My sickness (Job 6:4; Job 16:13).

Literally, "mine arrow," namely, by which I am pierced. So "my stroke" ("hand," Job 23:2, Margin). My sickness (Job 6:4; Job 16:13).

JFB: Job 34:6 - -- Without fault of mine to deserve it (Job 16:17).

Without fault of mine to deserve it (Job 16:17).

JFB: Job 34:7 - -- (Job 15:16). Image from the camel.

(Job 15:16). Image from the camel.

JFB: Job 34:7 - -- Against God (Job 15:4).

Against God (Job 15:4).

JFB: Job 34:8 - -- Job virtually goes in company (makes common cause) with the wicked, by taking up their sentiments (Job 9:22-23, Job 9:30; Job 21:7-15), or at least by...

Job virtually goes in company (makes common cause) with the wicked, by taking up their sentiments (Job 9:22-23, Job 9:30; Job 21:7-15), or at least by saying, that those who act on such sentiments are unpunished (Mal 3:14). To deny God's righteous government because we do not see the reasons of His acts, is virtually to take part with the ungodly.

JFB: Job 34:9 - -- In intimacy (Psa 50:18, Margin).

In intimacy (Psa 50:18, Margin).

Clarke: Job 34:3 - -- The ear trieth words - I do not think, with Calmet, that the inward ear, or judgment, is meant simply. The Asiatics valued themselves on the nice an...

The ear trieth words - I do not think, with Calmet, that the inward ear, or judgment, is meant simply. The Asiatics valued themselves on the nice and harmonious collection of words, both in speaking and in writing; and perhaps it will be found here that Elihu labors as much for harmonious versification as for pious and weighty sentiments. To connect sense with sound was an object of general pursuit among the Hebrew, Arabic, and Persian poets; and so fond are the latter of euphony, that they often sacrifice both sense and sentiment to it; and some of the Greek poets are not exempt from this fault.

Clarke: Job 34:4 - -- Let us choose to us judgment - Let us not seek the applause of men, nor contend for victory. Let our aim be to obtain correct views and notions of a...

Let us choose to us judgment - Let us not seek the applause of men, nor contend for victory. Let our aim be to obtain correct views and notions of all things; and let us labor to find out what is good.

Clarke: Job 34:5 - -- Job hath said, I am righteous - Job had certainly said the words attributed to him by Elihu, particularly in Job 27:2, etc., but it was in vindicati...

Job hath said, I am righteous - Job had certainly said the words attributed to him by Elihu, particularly in Job 27:2, etc., but it was in vindication of his aspersed character that he had asserted his own righteousness, and in a different sense to that in which Elihu appears to take it up. He asserted that he was righteous quoad the charges his friends had brought against him. And he never intimated that he had at all times a pure heart, and had never transgressed the laws of his Maker. It is true also that he said, God hath taken away my judgment; but he most obviously does not mean to charge God with injustice, but to show that he had dealt with him in a way wholly mysterious, and not according to the ordinary dispensations of his providence; and that he did not interpose in his behalf, while his friends were overwhelming him with obloquy and reproach.

Clarke: Job 34:6 - -- Should I lie against my right? - Should I acknowledge myself the sinner which they paint me, and thus lie against my right to assert and maintain my...

Should I lie against my right? - Should I acknowledge myself the sinner which they paint me, and thus lie against my right to assert and maintain my innocence

Clarke: Job 34:6 - -- My wound is incurable without transgression - If this translation is correct, the meaning of the place is sufficiently evident. In the tribulation w...

My wound is incurable without transgression - If this translation is correct, the meaning of the place is sufficiently evident. In the tribulation which I endure, I am treated as if I were the worst of culprits; and I labor under incurable maladies and privations, though without any cause on my part for such treatment. This was all most perfectly true; it is the testimony which God himself gives of Job, that "he was a perfect and upright man, fearing God and eschewing evil;"and that "Satan had moved the Lord against him, to destroy him, Without a Cause. See Job 1:1; Job 2:3

The Chaldee translates thus: -

"On account of my judgment, I will make the son of man a liar, who sends forth arrows without sin.

Mr. Good thus: -

"Concerning my cause I am slandered

He hath reversed my lot without a trespass.

The latter clause is the most deficient, אנוש חצי בלי פשע ; Miss Smith’ s translation of which is the best I have met with: "A man cut off, without transgression."The word חצי chitstsi , which we translate my wound, signifies more literally, my arrow; and if we take it as a contracted noun, חצי chitstsey for חצים chitstsim , it means calamities. אנוש anush , which we translate incurable, may be the noun enosh, wicked, miserable man; and then the whole may be read thus: "A man of calamities without transgression."I suffer the punishment of an enemy to God, while free from transgression of this kind.

Clarke: Job 34:7 - -- Drinketh up scorning like water? - This is a repetition of the charge made against Job by Eliphaz, Job 15:16. It is a proverbial expression, and see...

Drinketh up scorning like water? - This is a repetition of the charge made against Job by Eliphaz, Job 15:16. It is a proverbial expression, and seems to be formed, as a metaphor, from a camel drinking, who takes in a large draught of water, even the most turbid, on its setting out on a journey in a caravan, that it may serve it for a long time. Job deals largely in scorning; he fills his heart with it.

Clarke: Job 34:8 - -- Which goeth in company with the workers of iniquity - This is an allusion to a caravan: all kinds of persons are found there; but yet a holy and res...

Which goeth in company with the workers of iniquity - This is an allusion to a caravan: all kinds of persons are found there; but yet a holy and respectable man might be found in that part of the company where profligates assembled. But surely this assertion of Elihu was not strictly true; and the words literally translated, will bear a less evil meaning: "Job makes a track ארח arach , to join fellowship, לחברה lechebrah , with the workers of iniquity;"i.e., Job’ s present mode of reasoning, when he says, "I am righteous, yet God hath taken away my judgment,"is according to the assertion of sinners, who say, "There is no profit in serving God; for, if a man be righteous, he is not benefited by it, for God does not vindicate a just man’ s cause against his oppressors."By adopting so much of their creed, he intimates that Job is taking the steps that lead to fellowship with them. See Job 34:9.

Defender: Job 34:8 - -- Elihu had no basis whatever for this gratuitous insult to the godly patriarch. He is carried away with his own eloquence."

Elihu had no basis whatever for this gratuitous insult to the godly patriarch. He is carried away with his own eloquence."

Defender: Job 34:9 - -- Job had said no such thing (compare Job 21:15)."

Job had said no such thing (compare Job 21:15)."

TSK: Job 34:2 - -- Pro 1:5; 1Co 10:15, 1Co 14:20

TSK: Job 34:3 - -- the ear : Job 6:30, Job 12:11; 1Co 2:15; Heb 5:14 mouth : Heb. palate, Job 31:30, Job 33:2 *marg.

the ear : Job 6:30, Job 12:11; 1Co 2:15; Heb 5:14

mouth : Heb. palate, Job 31:30, Job 33:2 *marg.

TSK: Job 34:4 - -- choose : Job 34:36; Jdg 19:30, Jdg 20:7; 1Co 6:2-5; Gal 2:11-14; 1Th 5:21 know : Isa 11:2-5; Joh 7:24; Rom 12:2

TSK: Job 34:5 - -- I : Job 10:7, Job 11:4, Job 16:17, Job 29:14, Job 32:1, Job 33:9 God : Job 9:17, Job 27:2

TSK: Job 34:6 - -- I : Job 27:4-6 wound : Heb. arrow, Job 6:4, Job 16:13

I : Job 27:4-6

wound : Heb. arrow, Job 6:4, Job 16:13

TSK: Job 34:7 - -- Job 15:16; Deu 29:19; Pro 1:22, Pro 4:17

TSK: Job 34:8 - -- Job 2:10, Job 11:3, Job 15:5; Psa 1:1, Psa 26:4, Psa 50:18, Psa 73:12-15; Pro 1:15, Pro 2:12, Pro 4:14; Pro 13:20; 1Co 15:33

TSK: Job 34:9 - -- It : Job 9:22, Job 9:23, Job 9:30, Job 9:31, Job 21:14-16, Job 21:30, Job 22:17, Job 35:3; Mal 3:14 delight : Job 27:10; Psa 37:4

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Barnes: Job 34:1 - -- Furthermore, Elihu answered and said - That is, evidently, after a pause to see if Job had anything to reply. The word answered in the Scriptur...

Furthermore, Elihu answered and said - That is, evidently, after a pause to see if Job had anything to reply. The word answered in the Scriptures often means "to begin a discourse,"though nothing had been said by others; see Job 3:2; Isa 14:10; Zec 1:10; Zec 3:4; Zec 4:11-12. Sometimes it is used with reference to a subject, meaning that one replied to what could be suggested on the opposite side. Here it maybe understood either in the general sense of beginning a discourse, or more probably as replying to the sentiments which Job had advanced in the debate with his friends.

Barnes: Job 34:2 - -- Hear my words, O ye wise men - Addressing particularly the three friends of Job. The previous chapter had been addressed to Job himself. He had...

Hear my words, O ye wise men - Addressing particularly the three friends of Job. The previous chapter had been addressed to Job himself. He had stated to him his views of the design of affliction, and he had nothing to reply. He now addresses himself to his friends, with a particular view of examining some of the sentiments which Job had advanced, and of showing where he was in error. He addresses them as "wise men,"or sages, and as endowed with "knowledge,"to conciliate their attention, and because he regarded them as qualified to understand the difficult subject which he proposed to explain.

Barnes: Job 34:3 - -- For the ear trieth words - Ascertains their meaning, and especially determines what words are worth regarding. The object of this is, to fix th...

For the ear trieth words - Ascertains their meaning, and especially determines what words are worth regarding. The object of this is, to fix the attention on what he was about to say; to get the ear so that every word should make its proper impression. The word ear in this place, however, seems not to be used to denote the external organ, but the whole faculty of hearing. It is by hearing that the meaning of what is said is determined, as it is by the taste that the quality of food is discerned.

As the mouth tasteth meat - Margin, as in Hebrew "palate."The meaning is, as the organ of taste determines the nature of the various articles of food. The same figure is used by Job in Job 12:11.

Barnes: Job 34:4 - -- Let us choose to us judgment - That is, let us examine and explore what is true and right. Amidst the conflicting opinions, and the sentiments ...

Let us choose to us judgment - That is, let us examine and explore what is true and right. Amidst the conflicting opinions, and the sentiments which have been advanced, let us find out what will abide the test of close investigation.

Barnes: Job 34:5 - -- For Job hath said, I am righteous - see Job 13:18, "I know that I shall be justified;"compare Job 23:10-11, where he says, if he was tried he w...

For Job hath said, I am righteous - see Job 13:18, "I know that I shall be justified;"compare Job 23:10-11, where he says, if he was tried he would come forth as gold. Elihu may have also referred to the general course of remark which he had pursued as vindicating himself.

And God hath taken away my judgment - This sentiment is found in Job 27:2; see the notes at that place.

Barnes: Job 34:6 - -- Should I lie against my right? - These are also quoted as the words of Job, and as a part of the erroneous opinions on which Elihu proposes to ...

Should I lie against my right? - These are also quoted as the words of Job, and as a part of the erroneous opinions on which Elihu proposes to comment. These words do not occur, however, as used by Job respecting himself, and Elihu must be understood to refer to what he regarded as the general strain of the argument maintained by him. In regard to the meaning of the words, there have been various opinions. Jerome renders them, "For in judging me there is falsehood - mendacium est ; my violent arrow (the painful arrow in me) is without any sin."The Septuagint, "He the Lord hath been false in my accusation"- ἐψένσατο δὲ τῳ κρίματί μου epseusato de tō krimati mou - "my arrow is heavy without transgression."Coverdale, "I must needs be a liar, though my cause be right."Umbreit renders it, "I must lie if I should acknowledge myself to be guilty."

Noyes, "Though I am innocent, I am made a liar."Prof. Lee, "Should I lie respecting my case? mine arrow is mortal without transgression."That is, Job said he could not lie about it; he could use no language that would deceive. He felt that a mortal arrow had reached him without transgression, or without any adequate cause. Rosenmuller renders it, "However just may be my cause, I appear to be a liar."That is, he was regarded as guilty, and treated accordingly, however conscious he might be of innocence, and however strenuously he might maintain that he was not guilty. The meaning probably is, "I am held to be a liar. I defend myself; go over my past life; state my course of conduct; meet the accusations of my friends, but in all this I am still held to be a liar. My friends so regard me - for they will not credit my statements, and they go on still to argue as if I was the most guilty of mortals. And God also in this holds me to be a liar, for he treats me constantly as if I were guilty. He hears not my vindication, and he inflicts pain and woe upon me as if all that I had said about my own integrity were false, and I were one of the most abandoned of mortals, so that on all hands I am regarded and treated as if I were basely false."The literal translation of the Hebrew is, "Concerning my judgment (or my cause) I am held to be a liar."

My wound is incurable - Margin, as in Hebrew "arrow."The idea is, that a deadly arrow had smitten him, which could not be extracted. So in Virgil:

Haeret lateri letalis arundo . Aeneid iv. 73.

The image is taken from an animal that had been pierced with a deadly arrow.

Without transgression - Without any sin that deserved such treatment. Job did not claim to be absolutely perfect; he maintained only that the sufferings which he endured were no proper proof of his character; compare Job 6:4.

Barnes: Job 34:7 - -- What man is like Job, who drinketh up scorning like water? - A similar image occurs in Job 15:16. The idea is, that he was full of reproachful ...

What man is like Job, who drinketh up scorning like water? - A similar image occurs in Job 15:16. The idea is, that he was full of reproachful speeches respecting God; of the language of irreverence and rebellion. He indulged in it as freely as a man drinks water; gathers up and imbibes all the language of reproach that he can find, and indulges in it as if it were perfectly harmless.

Barnes: Job 34:8 - -- Which goeth in company with the workers of iniquity - That is, in his sentiments. The idea is, that he advocated the same opinions which they d...

Which goeth in company with the workers of iniquity - That is, in his sentiments. The idea is, that he advocated the same opinions which they did, and entertained the same views of God and of his government. The same charge had been before brought against him by his friends; see the notes at Job 21.

Barnes: Job 34:9 - -- For he hath said, It profiteth a man nothing that he should delight himself in God - That is, there is no advantage in piety, and in endeavorin...

For he hath said, It profiteth a man nothing that he should delight himself in God - That is, there is no advantage in piety, and in endeavoring to serve God. It will make no difference in the divine dealings with him. He will be treated just as well if he lives a life of sin, as if he undertakes to live after the severest rules of piety. Job had not used precisely this language, but in Job 9:22, he had expressed nearly the same sentiment. It is probable, however, that Elihu refers to what he regarded as the general scope and tendency of his remarks, as implying that there was no respect paid to character in the divine dealings with mankind. It was easy to pervert the views which Job actually entertained, so as to make him appear to maintain this sentiment, and it was probably with a special view to this charge that Job uttered the sentiments recorded in Job 21; see the notes at that chapter.

Poole: Job 34:2 - -- O ye wise men who are here present, do you judge of the truth and reason of what I have said, and am further to say; for I am willing to submit all t...

O ye wise men who are here present, do you judge of the truth and reason of what I have said, and am further to say; for I am willing to submit all to the judgment of the truly wise.

Poole: Job 34:3 - -- i.e. Man’ s mind judgeth Of things spoken and heard. The ear the sense of discipline, is put for the mind, to which things are conveyed by it...

i.e. Man’ s mind judgeth Of things spoken and heard.

The ear the sense of discipline, is put for the mind, to which things are conveyed by it. See Poole "Job 12:11" .

Poole: Job 34:4 - -- Judgment i.e. justice and equity; judgment being oft synecdochically used for just judgment, as Job 8:3 19:7 32:9 Psa 37:28 . Let us not contend for ...

Judgment i.e. justice and equity; judgment being oft synecdochically used for just judgment, as Job 8:3 19:7 32:9 Psa 37:28 . Let us not contend for victory, but only for truth and justice. This shall be my only care and business

Poole: Job 34:5 - -- I am righteous either, 1. I am perfectly righteous. But this Job did not say, but the contrary, Job 9:2,3 14:4 . Or, 2. I am a sincere person, no h...

I am righteous either,

1. I am perfectly righteous. But this Job did not say, but the contrary, Job 9:2,3 14:4 . Or,

2. I am a sincere person, no hypocrite, as my friends made me. But this Elihu doth not deny. Or,

3. I am so far righteous, and have been so holy and blameless in my life, that I have not deserved, nor had any reason to expect, such hard usage from God. And this Job had oft intimated, and Elihu doth justly blame him for it, that he blazoned his own righteousness with tacit reflections upon God for dealing so severely with him.

God hath taken away my judgment for so Job had said, Job 27:2 ; i.e. he denies me that which is but just and equal, to give me a fair hearing, to suffer me to plead my cause with or before him, to show me the reasons of his contending with me, and what sins besides common infirmities I have been guilty of, whereby I have deserved such extraordinary judgments; which Elihu justly taxeth him with as a very irreverent and presumptuous expression.

Poole: Job 34:6 - -- Should I lie against my right? so Job had said in effect, Job 27:4-6 . Should I falsely accuse myself of such sins of which I am no way conscious to ...

Should I lie against my right? so Job had said in effect, Job 27:4-6 . Should I falsely accuse myself of such sins of which I am no way conscious to myself? Should I betray mine own cause, and deny my integrity, and say that I deserved worse than I have done?

Without transgression i.e. without any great, or heinous, or crying sin, as this word commonly signifies, which might reasonably bring down such terrible judgments upon my head.

Poole: Job 34:7 - -- i.e. Abundantly and greedily; who doth so oft and so easily break forth into scornful and contemptuous expressions, not only against his friends, bu...

i.e. Abundantly and greedily; who doth so oft and so easily break forth into scornful and contemptuous expressions, not only against his friends, but in some sort even against God himself, whom he foolishly and insolently chargeth with dealing rigorously with him. The words may be thus read,

What man being like Job, would drink up? ..? That a wicked or foolish man should do thus is not strange; but that a man of such piety, gravity, wisdom, and authority as Job should be guilty of such a sin, this is wonderful.

Poole: Job 34:8 - -- Although I dare not say, as his three friends do, that he is a wicked man, yet in this matter he speaks and acts like one of them.

Although I dare not say, as his three friends do, that he is a wicked man, yet in this matter he speaks and acts like one of them.

Poole: Job 34:9 - -- He hath said not absolutely and in express terms, but by unforced consequence, and as concerning this life, and with reference to himself; because he...

He hath said not absolutely and in express terms, but by unforced consequence, and as concerning this life, and with reference to himself; because he said that good men were no less, nay, sometimes more, miserable here than the wicked, Job 9:22 30:26 , and that for his part he was no gainer as to this life by his piety, but a loser, and that God showed him no more kindness and compassion than he usually did to the vilest of men; which was a very unthankful and ungodly opinion and expression, seeing godliness hath the promise of this life as well as of that to come, and Job had such supports, and such assurances of his own uprightness, and of his future happiness, as he confesseth, as were and should have been accounted even for the present a greater comfort and profit than all which this world can afford.

That he should delight himself with God that he should choose and delight to walk with God, and make it his chief care and business to please him, and to do his commandments; which is the true and proper character of a godly man.

Haydock: Job 34:3 - -- Taste. The most accurate philosophers attribute this faculty to the tongue, (Calmet) rather than to the throat, guttur. Hebrew, "mouth or palat...

Taste. The most accurate philosophers attribute this faculty to the tongue, (Calmet) rather than to the throat, guttur. Hebrew, "mouth or palate." (Haydock) ---

But Eliu speaks agreeably to the notions of the vulgar. (Calmet) ---

Intellectus saporum cæteris est in prima lingua, homini et in palato. (Pliny, [Natural History?] xi. 37.)

Haydock: Job 34:5 - -- Judgment. Chap. xxvii. 2. Job had used this expression, but only to intimate that strict justice did not take place, as he thought his faults had n...

Judgment. Chap. xxvii. 2. Job had used this expression, but only to intimate that strict justice did not take place, as he thought his faults had not deserved so severe a chastisement. He did not pretend that God was unjust, or that he was quite blameless; and he had so explicitly declared his sentiments, that Eliu could not well be ignorant of them. (Calmet)

Haydock: Job 34:6 - -- There. Septuagint, "he has been deceived;" Greek: epseusato. Hebrew, "I will convict my judge of lying;" or (Calmet) Protestants, "should I lie a...

There. Septuagint, "he has been deceived;" Greek: epseusato. Hebrew, "I will convict my judge of lying;" or (Calmet) Protestants, "should I lie against my right?" (Haydock) ---

Job, in the excess of grief, had expressed himself forcibly, chap. xix. 6., and xxiii. 7. But great deductions must be made from such hyperboles; and he had frequently praised the mercy and justice of God, and his just punishment of the wicked. He had indeed excepted himself from the number; and Eliu ought to have proved that he was wrong in this respect. But he seems to have all along evaded or mistaken the point under dispute. (Calmet) ---

Arrow, which pierces me. (Haydock) ---

The deferring judgment was not a subversion of it, as Eliu would argue, chap. xxvii. 2. (Worthington)

Haydock: Job 34:7 - -- What. This may be a continuation of Job's speech, who seemed to assert that none had ever been insulted like himself, nor borne it with greater pati...

What. This may be a continuation of Job's speech, who seemed to assert that none had ever been insulted like himself, nor borne it with greater patience; (chap. xvi. 4.) or Eliu reproaches him with talking scornfully to his friends and to God. (Calmet)

Haydock: Job 34:8 - -- Goeth in. Septuagint insert a negation, which is not found in Hebrew, Chaldean, &c. They may be understood to speak ironically. (Calmet) --- "Who...

Goeth in. Septuagint insert a negation, which is not found in Hebrew, Chaldean, &c. They may be understood to speak ironically. (Calmet) ---

"Who committeth no sin, nor iniquity, nor has had any society with lawless people, so as to walk with wicked men." (Haydock)

Haydock: Job 34:9 - -- With him, and strive to please him. Horrible blasphemy! of which Job was incapable: as if God were a cruel master, and threw us into despair. He ha...

With him, and strive to please him. Horrible blasphemy! of which Job was incapable: as if God were a cruel master, and threw us into despair. He had asserted that God punishes the wicked, and often treats his friends with the like severity, (chap. ix. 22., and xxx. 26.) in this world: which is very true. (Calmet) ---

Septuagint, "Say not that man is visited. He is indeed visited by the Lord." (Haydock) ---

Eliu wrests Job's words, in order that he may have something to say against him. (St. Gregory xxiv. 25.) (Worthington)

Gill: Job 34:1 - -- Furthermore Elihu answered and said. It is reasonable to suppose that Elihu made a considerable pause, to see whether Job would make any reply to what...

Furthermore Elihu answered and said. It is reasonable to suppose that Elihu made a considerable pause, to see whether Job would make any reply to what he had delivered, or object to what he had said; which he gave him free liberty to do, if he had anything upon his mind: but perceiving he was not inclined to return any answer to him, he went on with his discourse; and which is called a further answer to him: for though Joh had made no reply to which this could be called an answer, yet as there were several things remaining for Elihu to answer to, and which he proposed to answer and did, it may with great propriety here be said that he answered him.

Gill: Job 34:2 - -- Hear my words, O ye wise men,.... This is not an address to Job's three friends, as some think; for Elihu had expressed his displeasure at them, in c...

Hear my words, O ye wise men,.... This is not an address to Job's three friends, as some think; for Elihu had expressed his displeasure at them, in condemning Job without convicting him, and returning solid answers to him; and therefore he should not take their method of dealing with him, but take another; and plainly suggests that wisdom was not with them, nor taught by them; and therefore, as he could not give flattering titles to men, it could not well be thought that he should address them as wise and understanding men, unless indeed in an ironic way, as some choose to interpret it; see Job 32:3. Rather therefore some bystanders are here spoken to, whom Elihu knew to be men of wisdom and knowledge, &c. as it follows,

and give ear unto me, ye that have knowledge; and as they were endued not only with natural and political wisdom and knowledge, but with that which is divine and spiritual, they were proper judges of the affair in controversy, and could best discern whether what Elihu delivered was right or wrong, and to the purpose or not. And besides, though they had a large share of wisdom and knowledge, yet it was but imperfect; and the most wise and knowing may become more so, and that sometimes by means of their inferiors and juniors: and therefore Elihu craves their attention to what he had said or should say, though he was but a young man, and they aged, and men of great geniuses and abilities; and the rather he might be pressing on them to be his hearers and judges, because, generally speaking, such, as they are the most judicious, so the most candid hearers.

Gill: Job 34:3 - -- For the ear trieth words,.... Not only the musical sound of them, the goodness of the language and diction, and the grammatical construction of them, ...

For the ear trieth words,.... Not only the musical sound of them, the goodness of the language and diction, and the grammatical construction of them, but the sense of them, and whether the matter of them is good or not; that they are sound speech, which cannot be condemned, or unsound; whether they are right or wrong, agreeably to right reason, sound doctrine, and the word of God; for there are words and words, some the words of men, others the words of God. A sanctified ear tries these; but then men must have such ears to hear, and be attentive to what they hear, and retain it; hear internally as well as externally; and which a man does when his ears are opened by the Lord, from whom are the hearing ear and seeing eye; and such try what they hear, distinguish between good and bad, approve truth and receive it, and retain and hold it fast:

as the mouth tasteth meat; words and doctrines are like meat, some good and some bad; and such that have a good taste try them, either a rational or rather a spiritual discernment: some have no spiritual taste, their taste is not changed, and therefore cannot distinguish, nor make any good judgment of things; but others have, and these discern the difference, relish truth, savour the things that be of God, taste the good word of God, and esteem it more than their necessary food; and it is sweeter to them than the honey or the honeycomb. Such Elihu judged these men to be he addressed, and therefore desired their attention to what he had to say.

Gill: Job 34:4 - -- Let us choose to us judgments,.... Take the part of the question or controversy in which truth and justice lie, and he doubtless has respect to the pr...

Let us choose to us judgments,.... Take the part of the question or controversy in which truth and justice lie, and he doubtless has respect to the present controversy with Job;

let us know among ourselves what is good; agree upon that which is best to be done in the present case, what judgment to be made of the dealings of God with Job, and his behaviour under them, and what the best advice to give to him.

Gill: Job 34:5 - -- For Job hath said, I am righteous,.... Not in express words, but what amounted to it: no doubt he was a righteous man in an evangelic sense, being jus...

For Job hath said, I am righteous,.... Not in express words, but what amounted to it: no doubt he was a righteous man in an evangelic sense, being justified by the righteousness of Christ, as all the Old Testament saints were, who looked to him and believed in him as the Lord their righteousness, and said, as the church in those times did, "surely in the Lord have I righteousness and strength"; Isa 45:24. And moreover he was an upright man, to which the Lord himself bore testimony, Job 1:8; and had the truth of grace in him, that "new man which is created in righteousness and true holiness"; and also lived an holy life and conversation; but then he did not say or think that he was righteous in or of himself, or so as to be free from sin: Job could not judge or speak thus of himself, which would be contrary to what he expressly declares, Job 7:20; though it must be owned, that he thought himself so righteous, holy, and good, that he ought not to have been afflicted in the manner he was; in which sense it is probable Elihu understood him: and besides, these words are not to be taken separately, but in connection with what follows, which shows Job's sense, and how Elihu understood him, that though he was a righteous person, he had not justice done him:

and God hath taken away my judgment; which words he did say; see Gill on Job 27:2; or, as Mr. Broughton renders the words, "the Omnipotent keeps back my right"; does not vindicate my cause, nor so much as give it a hearing, nor lets me know why he contends with me; and, though I call for justice to be done, cannot be heard, Job 19:7; a like complaint of the church in Isa 40:27.

Gill: Job 34:6 - -- Should I lie against my right?.... No; I ought not: this though Job had not said in so many words, yet this seems to be his sense in Job 27:4; that sh...

Should I lie against my right?.... No; I ought not: this though Job had not said in so many words, yet this seems to be his sense in Job 27:4; that should he own and say that he was a wicked man, a hypocrite, and destitute of the grace of God, he should not only speak against himself, but, contrary to his conscience, say an untruth, and not do justice to his character. Some read the words without an interrogation, as Mr. Broughton,

"for my right I must be a liar;''

that is, for vindicating my right, seeking and endeavouring to do myself justice, and clear myself from false imputations, I am reckoned a liar. And to this purpose is the paraphrase of Aben Ezra,

"because I seek judgment, they say that I lie.''

Others render them, "there is a lie in judging me", so the Vulgate Latin version; that is,

"I am falsely accused, I am judged wrongfully:''

things I know not are laid to my charge, which has often been the case of good men: or, "I have lied in judgment"; that is, "failed", as the word is sometimes used, Isa 58:11; failed in his expectation of judgment or of justice being done him; he looked for it, but was disappointed; but the first sense seems best;

my wound is incurable without transgression; not that he thought himself without transgression, but that his wound or stroke inflicted on him, or the afflictions he was exercised with, were without cause; were not for any injustice in his hands, or wickedness that he had committed; and that he utterly despaired of being rid of them, or restored to his former health and prosperity; and to this sense he had expressed himself, Job 9:17. In the Hebrew text it is, "my arrow" y, that is, the arrow that was in him, the arrows of the Lord that stuck fast in him; these were thrown at him and fastened in him without cause; and there was no hope of their being drawn out, or of the wounds made by them being healed; see Job 6:4. Now what Elihu was offended at in these expressions was, that Job should so rigidly insist on his innocence, and not own himself faulty in any respect; nor allow there was any cause for his afflictions, nor entertain any hope of the removal of them: whereas it became him to acknowledge his sins, which no man is free from, and that he was dealt with less than his iniquities deserved; and that, instead of indulging despair, he should rather say, "I will return" to the Lord; he hath "torn" and he will "heal", he hath "smitten" and he will "bind up", Hos 6:1.

Gill: Job 34:7 - -- What man is like Job,.... This is said as wondering at the part he acted, that a man so wise and good as Job was esteemed to be should behave in such...

What man is like Job,.... This is said as wondering at the part he acted, that a man so wise and good as Job was esteemed to be should behave in such a manner as he did;

who drinketh up scorning like water? For a foolish and wicked man to do so is not strange nor uncommon; but for a man of such sense and grace as Job was to do this was astonishing; to have no more regard to his character than to expose himself to the scorn and ridicule of men: for a man to become a laughing stock to profane and wicked men for his religion and piety, it is no disgrace, but an honour to him; but by unbecoming words and gestures to make himself justly jeered and scoffed at is great indiscretion. Or it may be understood actively of his dealing very freely and frequently in scoffs and jeers, which he poured out very liberally and plentifully, and seemingly with as much delight as a man drinks water when thirsty; see Job 11:3.

Gill: Job 34:8 - -- Which goeth in company with the workers of iniquity,.... The worst of men, who make it their constant business and employment to commit sin: and wa...

Which goeth in company with the workers of iniquity,.... The worst of men, who make it their constant business and employment to commit sin:

and walketh with wicked men; the most abandoned of mankind. Not that Job kept company with such, and walked with them in all excess of not; nor did Elihu think so; Job was "a man that feared God, and eschewed evil", and evil men; he was "a companion of them that feared the Lord"; his delight was "with the excellent of the earth": nor should a good man keep company and walk with the wicked, nor can he with any pleasure. But the sense is, that by his words, the expressions that dropped from his lips, he seemed to agree with them, and to be of the same sentiments with them; and what he delivered tended to encourage and harden them in their sinful ways; and what those words were follow.

Gill: Job 34:9 - -- For he hath said,.... Not plainly and expressly, but consequentially; what it was thought might be inferred from what he had said, particularly in Job...

For he hath said,.... Not plainly and expressly, but consequentially; what it was thought might be inferred from what he had said, particularly in Job 9:22;

it profiteth a man nothing that he should delight himself with God; in his house and ordinances, ways and worship; he may as well indulge himself in the pleasures of sin, and in the delights of the world, if God destroys the perfect and the wicked, as Job had said in the place referred to; if this be the case, it is in vain to serve God, and pray unto him, or keep his ordinances; which are the language and sentiments of wicked men, and according to which they act, see Job 21:14, Mal 3:14. Mr. Broughton renders it,

"when he would walk with God;''

and so the Targum,

"in his walking with God;''

and another Targum,

"in his running with God:''

though he walks and even runs in the way of his commandments, yet it is of no advantage to him; or he does the will of God, as Aben Ezra; or seeks to please him or be acceptable to him, and to find grace in his sight. Whereas though love and hatred are not known by prosperity and adversity, but both come to good and bad men, which seems to be Job's meaning in the above place, from whence this inference is deduced; yet it is certain that godliness is profitable to all, 1Ti 4:8.

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Commentary -- Verse Notes / Footnotes

NET Notes: Job 34:1 This speech of Elihu focuses on defending God. It can be divided into these sections: Job is irreligious (2-9), God is just (10-15), God is impartial ...

NET Notes: Job 34:2 The Hebrew word means “the men who know,” and without a complement it means “to possess knowledge.”

NET Notes: Job 34:3 Or “palate”; the Hebrew term refers to the tongue or to the mouth in general.

NET Notes: Job 34:4 The word is מִשְׁפָּט (mishpat) again, with the sense of what is right or just.

NET Notes: Job 34:5 Heb “righteous,” but in this context it means to be innocent or in the right.

NET Notes: Job 34:6 Heb “without transgression”; but this is parallel to the first part where the claim is innocence.

NET Notes: Job 34:7 The scorn or derision mentioned here is not against Job, but against God. Job scorns God so much, he must love it. So to reflect this idea, Gordis has...

NET Notes: Job 34:8 Heb “men of wickedness”; the genitive is attributive (= “wicked men”).

NET Notes: Job 34:9 Gordis, however, takes this expression in the sense of “being in favor with God.”

Geneva Bible: Job 34:2 Hear my words, O ye ( a ) wise [men]; and give ear unto me, ye that have knowledge. ( a ) Which are esteemed wise by the world.

Geneva Bible: Job 34:4 Let us choose to us ( b ) judgment: let us know among ourselves what [is] good. ( b ) Let us examine the matter uprightly.

Geneva Bible: Job 34:5 For Job hath said, I am righteous: and God hath taken ( c ) away my judgment. ( c ) That is, has afflicted me without measure.

Geneva Bible: Job 34:6 Should I lie against my ( d ) right? my wound [is] ( e ) incurable without transgression. ( d ) Should I say, I am wicked, being an innocent? ( e ) ...

Geneva Bible: Job 34:7 What man [is] like Job, [who] drinketh up ( f ) scorning like water? ( f ) Which is compelled to receive your reproach and scorns of many for his foo...

Geneva Bible: Job 34:8 Which goeth in ( g ) company with the workers of iniquity, and walketh with wicked men. ( g ) Meaning that Job was like the wicked, because he seemed...

Geneva Bible: Job 34:9 For he hath said, ( h ) It profiteth a man nothing that he should ( i ) delight himself with God. ( h ) He wrests Job's words who said that God's chi...

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Commentary -- Verse Range Notes

TSK Synopsis: Job 34:1-37 - --1 Elihu accuses Job for charging God with injustice.10 God omnipotent cannot be unjust.31 Man must humble himself unto God.34 Elihu reproves Job.

MHCC: Job 34:1-9 - --Elihu calls upon those present to decide with him upon Job's words. The plainest Christian, whose mind is enlightened, whose heart is sanctified by th...

Matthew Henry: Job 34:1-9 - -- Here, I. Elihu humbly addresses himself to the auditors, and endeavours, like an orator, to gain their good-will and their favourable attention. 1. ...

Keil-Delitzsch: Job 34:1-4 - -- 1 Then began Elihu and said: 2 Hear, ye wise men, my words, And ye experienced ones, give ear to me! 3 For the ear trieth words, As the palate t...

Keil-Delitzsch: Job 34:5-9 - -- 5 For Job hath said: "I am guiltless, "And God hath put aside my right. 6 "Shall I lie in spite of my right, "Incurable is mine arrow without tra...

Constable: Job 32:1--37:24 - --F. Elihu's Speeches chs. 32-37 Many critical scholars believe that a later editor inserted chapters 32-3...

Constable: Job 32:6--34:1 - --2. Elihu's first speech 32:6-33:33 Before Elihu began presenting his views (ch. 33), he first ha...

Constable: Job 34:1-37 - --3. Elihu's second speech ch. 34 Elihu sought to refute Job's charge that God was unjust in this ...

Constable: Job 34:1-9 - --Job's plea of innocence 34:1-9 Elihu reminded the three older counselors that Job had cl...

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Introduction / Outline

JFB: Job (Book Introduction) JOB A REAL PERSON.--It has been supposed by some that the book of Job is an allegory, not a real narrative, on account of the artificial character of ...

JFB: Job (Outline) THE HOLINESS OF JOB, HIS WEALTH, &c. (Job 1:1-5) SATAN, APPEARING BEFORE GOD, FALSELY ACCUSES JOB. (Job 1:6-12) SATAN FURTHER TEMPTS JOB. (Job 2:1-8)...

TSK: Job (Book Introduction) A large aquatic animal, perhaps the extinct dinosaur, plesiosaurus, the exact meaning is unknown. Some think this to be a crocodile but from the desc...

TSK: Job 34 (Chapter Introduction) Overview Job 34:1, Elihu accuses Job for charging God with injustice; Job 34:10, God omnipotent cannot be unjust; Job 34:31, Man must humble himse...

Poole: Job 34 (Chapter Introduction) CHAPTER 34 He accuseth Job for charging God with injustice, Job 34:1-9 . God, the almighty Disposer, Governor, and Judge of the world, cannot be un...

MHCC: Job (Book Introduction) This book is so called from Job, whose prosperity, afflictions, and restoration, are here recorded. He lived soon after Abraham, or perhaps before tha...

MHCC: Job 34 (Chapter Introduction) (Job 34:1-9) Elihu accuses Job of charging God with injustice. (Job 34:10-15) God cannot be unjust. (Job 34:16-30) God's power and providence. (Job...

Matthew Henry: Job (Book Introduction) An Exposition, with Practical Observations, of The Book of Job This book of Job stands by itself, is not connected with any other, and is therefore to...

Matthew Henry: Job 34 (Chapter Introduction) Elihu, it is likely, paused awhile, to see if Job had any thing to say against his discourse in the foregoing chapter; but he sitting silent, and i...

Constable: Job (Book Introduction) Introduction Title This book, like many others in the Old Testament, got its name from...

Constable: Job (Outline) Outline I. Prologue chs. 1-2 A. Job's character 1:1-5 B. Job's calamitie...

Constable: Job Job Bibliography Andersen, Francis I. Job. Tyndale Old Testament Commentaries series. Leicester, Eng. and Downe...

Haydock: Job (Book Introduction) THE BOOK OF JOB. INTRODUCTION. This Book takes its name from the holy man, of whom it treats; who, according to the more probable opinion, was ...

Gill: Job (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO JOB This book, in the Hebrew copies, generally goes by this name, from Job, who is however the subject, if not the writer of it. In...

Gill: Job 34 (Chapter Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO JOB 34 In this chapter Elihu reassumes his discourse, and proceeds in his answer to Job, in which are first a preface exciting atte...

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