
Text -- Job 4:17 (NET)




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Wesley -> Job 4:17
Wesley: Job 4:17 - -- Pretend more strictly to observe the laws of justice? Shall (enosh) mortal, miserable man (so the word signifies) be thus insolent? Nay, shall geber, ...
Pretend more strictly to observe the laws of justice? Shall (enosh) mortal, miserable man (so the word signifies) be thus insolent? Nay, shall geber, the strongest and most eminent man, stand in competition with God? Those that find fault with the directions of the Divine law, the dispensations of the Divine grace, or the disposal of the Divine providence, do make themselves more just and pure than God: who being their maker, is their Lord and owner: and the author of all the justice and purity that is in man.
JFB: Job 4:17 - -- Two Hebrew words for "man" are used; the first implying his feebleness; the second his strength. Whether feeble or strong, man is not righteous before...
Two Hebrew words for "man" are used; the first implying his feebleness; the second his strength. Whether feeble or strong, man is not righteous before God.

But this would be self-evident without an oracle.
Shall mortal man -

Clarke: Job 4:17 - -- Be more just than God? - Or, האנוש מאלוה יצדק haenosh meeloah yitsdak ; shall poor, weak, sinful man be justified before God
Be more just than God? - Or,

Clarke: Job 4:17 - -- Shall a man - גבר gaber , shall even the strong and mighty man, be pure before his Maker? Is any man, considered merely in and of himself, eithe...
Shall a man -
TSK -> Job 4:17
TSK: Job 4:17 - -- Shall mortal : Job 8:3, Job 9:2, Job 35:2, Job 40:8; Gen 18:25; Psa 143:2, Psa 145:17; Ecc 7:20; Jer 12:1; Rom 2:5, Rom 3:4-7, Rom 9:20, Rom 11:33
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Barnes -> Job 4:17
Barnes: Job 4:17 - -- Shall mortal man - Or, shall feeble man. The idea of "mortal"is not necessarily implied in the word used here, אנושׁ 'ĕnôsh . It ...
Shall mortal man - Or, shall feeble man. The idea of "mortal"is not necessarily implied in the word used here,
Be more just than God - Some expositors have supposed that the sense of this expression in the Hebrew is, "Can man be pure before God, or in the sight of God?"They allege that it could not have been made a question whether man could be more pure than God, or more just than his Maker. Such is the view presented of the passage by Rosenmuller, Good, Noyes, and Umbreit:
"Shall mortal man be just before God?
Shall man be pure before his Maker?"
In support of this view, and this use of the Hebrew preposition
Poole -> Job 4:17
Poole: Job 4:17 - -- The sense is, Thou, O Job, dost presumptuously accuse God for dealing harshly and unrighteously with thee, in sending thee into the world upon such ...
The sense is, Thou, O Job, dost presumptuously accuse God for dealing harshly and unrighteously with thee, in sending thee into the world upon such hard terms, and punishing all innocent and righteous man with such unparalleled severity; but consider things calmly within thyself; if God and thou come to a trial before any equal judge, canst thou think that thou wilt go away justified, and the great God shall be condemned? No righteous man will punish another without cause, or more than he deserves; and therefore if God do so with thee, as thy words imply, he is less just than a man; which is blasphemous and absurd to imagine.
Shall a man a great and mighty man, as this word signifies, a man eminent for wisdom, or justice, or power, or any other perfections, such as thou art thought by thyself or others to be; who therefore might expect more favour than a poor miserable and contemptible man, which the word enosch , used in the former branch, signifies. So he anticipates this objection which Job might make.
Be more pure than his Maker? an unanswerable argument against Job. He made thee, and that for himself and his own glory, and therefore hath an unquestionable right to deal with thee, and dispose of thee, the work of his hands, as he sees fit. Woe to him that striveth with his maker! Isa 45:9 . Besides, he made man just and pure; if any man have any thing of justice or purity in him, it is derived from God, the undoubted and only fountain of it; and therefore it must necessarily be in God in a far more eminent degree.
Haydock -> Job 4:17
Haydock: Job 4:17 - -- Maker. It is thought that these were the words of the angel. If God punish without cause, may not the sufferer esteem himself the better of the two...
Maker. It is thought that these were the words of the angel. If God punish without cause, may not the sufferer esteem himself the better of the two? You must therefore be guilty. (Calmet) ---
Job would never dispute; but God was infinitely more pure than man, who may nevertheless be free from grievous sins. (Worthington) ---
The highest angel has nothing but what he has received from God, in comparison with whom he is still as a mere nothing. But this does not prove that Job was a criminal, or that he pretended to arrogate to himself any excellence, independent of the giver of all good gifts. He did not assert that he was impeccable: yet, with God's grace, he might be innocent. (Calmet)
Gill -> Job 4:17
Gill: Job 4:17 - -- Shall mortal man be more just than God?.... Poor, weak, frail, dying man, and so sinful, as his mortality shows, which is the effect of sin; how shoul...
Shall mortal man be more just than God?.... Poor, weak, frail, dying man, and so sinful, as his mortality shows, which is the effect of sin; how should such a man be more righteous than God? who is so originally and essentially of himself, completely, perfectly, yea, infinitely righteous in his nature, and in his works, both of providence and grace; in chastising his people, punishing the wicked, and bestowing favours upon his friends, even in their election, redemption, justification, pardon, and eternal happiness: yea, not only profane wicked sinners can make no pretensions to anything of this kind, but even the best of men, none being without sin, no, not man in his best estate; for the righteousness he had then was of God, and therefore he could not be more just than he that made him upright. This comparative sense, which our version leads to, is more generally received; but it seems not to be the sense of the passage, since this is a truth clear from reason, and needed no vision or revelation to discover it; nor can it be thought that God would send an angelic spirit in such an awful and pompous manner, to declare that which every one knew, and no man would contradict; even the most self-righteous and self-sufficient man would never be so daring and insolent as to say he was more righteous than God; but the words should be rather rendered, "shall mortal man be justified by God, or be just from God?" or "with" him, or "before" him t, in his sight, by any righteousness in him, or done by him? shall he enter into his presence, stand at his bar, and be examined there, and go away from thence, in the sight and account of God, as a righteous person of himself? no, he cannot; now this is a doctrine opposed to carnal reasoning and the common sentiments of men, a doctrine of divine revelation, a precious truth: this is the string of pearls Eliphaz received, see Job 4:12; that mortal man is of himself an unrighteous creature; that he cannot be justified by his own righteousness in the sight of God; and that he must look and seek out for a better righteousness than his own, to justify him before God; and this agrees with Eliphaz's interpretation of the vision, Job 15:14; with the sentiments of his friend Bildad, who seems to have some respect to it, Job 25:4; and also of Job himself, Job 9:2; and in like manner are we to understand the following clause:
shall a man be more pure than his Maker? even the greatest and best of men, since what purity was in Adam, in a state of innocence, was from God; and what good men have, in a state of grace, is from the grace of God and blood of Christ, without which no man is pure at all, and therefore cannot be purer than him from whom they have it: or rather "be pure from", or "with", or "before his Maker" u, or be so accounted by him; every man is impure by his first birth, and in his nature state, and therefore cannot stand before a pure and holy God, who of purer eyes than to behold iniquity; or go away his presence, and be reckoned by him a pure and holy creature of himself; nor can any thing that he can do, in a moral or ceremonial manner, cleanse him from his impurity; and therefore it is necessary he should apply to the grace of God, and blood of Christ, for his purification.

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NET Notes: Job 4:17 The double question here merely repeats the same question with different words (see GKC 475 §150.h). The second member could just as well have be...
Geneva Bible -> Job 4:17
Geneva Bible: Job 4:17 Shall mortal man be more ( l ) just than God? shall a man be more pure than his maker?
( l ) He proves that if God punished the innocent, the creatur...

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TSK Synopsis -> Job 4:1-21
TSK Synopsis: Job 4:1-21 - --1 Eliphaz reproves Job for want of religion.7 He teaches God's judgments to be not for the righteous, but for the wicked.12 His fearful vision to humb...
MHCC -> Job 4:12-21
MHCC: Job 4:12-21 - --Eliphaz relates a vision. When we are communing with our own hearts, and are still, Psa 4:4, then is a time for the Holy Spirit to commune with us. Th...
Matthew Henry -> Job 4:12-21
Matthew Henry: Job 4:12-21 - -- Eliphaz, having undertaken to convince Job of the sin and folly of his discontent and impatience, here vouches a vision he had been favoured with, w...
Keil-Delitzsch -> Job 4:17-21
Keil-Delitzsch: Job 4:17-21 - --
17 Is a mortal just before Eloah,
Or a man pure before his Maker?
18 Behold, He trusteth not His servants!
And His angels He chargeth with imperf...
Constable: Job 4:1--14:22 - --B. The First Cycle of Speeches between Job and His Three Friends chs. 4-14
The two soliloquies of Job (c...

Constable: Job 4:1--5:27 - --1. Eliphaz's first speech chs. 4-5
Eliphaz's first speech has a symmetrical introverted (chiasti...
