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Text -- Joel 3:4 (NET)

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3:4 Why are you doing these things to me, Tyre and Sidon? Are you trying to get even with me, land of Philistia? I will very quickly repay you for what you have done!
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Names, People and Places, Dictionary Themes and Topics

Names, People and Places:
 · Philistia the country of the Philistines which was the coastal plain of southwestern Palestine
 · Sidon residents of the town of Sidon
 · Tyre a resident of the town of Tyre


Dictionary Themes and Topics: Zidon | ZIDON, OR SIDON | Tyre | Sidon | Palestine | PHILISTINES | PALESTINE, 1 | PALESTINA AND PALESTINE | Joel | Jehoshaphat, Valley of | JOEL (2) | Israel | GELILOTH | more
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TSK Synopsis , MHCC , Matthew Henry , Keil-Delitzsch , Constable , Guzik

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Commentary -- Word/Phrase Notes (per phrase)

Wesley: Joe 3:4 - -- Have I done you any wrong, which you avenge upon my people? Or do you begin to violate the laws of neighbourhood and friendship, and think to escape? ...

Have I done you any wrong, which you avenge upon my people? Or do you begin to violate the laws of neighbourhood and friendship, and think to escape? Do ye think you have to do with a poor opprest people, my people, and I nothing concerned at it? Palestine - On which were towns of trade, and merchants that bought and sold these captives.

Wesley: Joe 3:4 - -- Have I or my people so dealt with you? And if - If you will deal thus, I will speedily avenge myself and my people of you.

Have I or my people so dealt with you? And if - If you will deal thus, I will speedily avenge myself and my people of you.

JFB: Joe 3:4 - -- Ye have no connection with Me (that is, with My people: God identifying Himself with Israel); I (that is, My people) have given you no cause of quarre...

Ye have no connection with Me (that is, with My people: God identifying Himself with Israel); I (that is, My people) have given you no cause of quarrel, why then do ye trouble Me (that is, My people)? (Compare the same phrase, Jos 22:24; Jdg 11:12; 2Sa 16:10; Mat 8:29).

JFB: Joe 3:4 - -- (Amo 1:6, Amo 1:9).

JFB: Joe 3:4 - -- If ye injure Me (My people), in revenge for fancied wrongs (Eze 25:15-17), I will requite you in your own coin swiftly and speedily.

If ye injure Me (My people), in revenge for fancied wrongs (Eze 25:15-17), I will requite you in your own coin swiftly and speedily.

Clarke: Joe 3:4 - -- What have ye to do with me - Why have the Syrians and Sidonians joined their other enemies to oppress my people? for they who touch my people touch ...

What have ye to do with me - Why have the Syrians and Sidonians joined their other enemies to oppress my people? for they who touch my people touch me

Clarke: Joe 3:4 - -- Will ye render me a recompense? - Do you think by this to avenge yourselves upon the Almighty? to retaliate upon God! Proceed, and speedily will I r...

Will ye render me a recompense? - Do you think by this to avenge yourselves upon the Almighty? to retaliate upon God! Proceed, and speedily will I return your recompense; I will retaliate.

Calvin: Joe 3:4 - -- God expostulates here with Tyre and Sidon, and other neighboring nations, and shows that they vexed his people without cause Had they been provoked s...

God expostulates here with Tyre and Sidon, and other neighboring nations, and shows that they vexed his people without cause Had they been provoked some excuse might have been made; but since they made war of their own accord, the wrong was doubled. This is what God means these words. What have ye to do with me, O Tyre and Sidon? He indeed continues the subject before explained: but he speaks of the concern here as hid own; he seems not now to undertake the protection of his own people, but detents his own cause. “What have ye to do with me?” he says. God then interposes himself; as though he said, that the Syrians and Sidonians were not only called by him to judgment because they had unjustly wronged his people, and brought many troubles on men deserving no such things; but he says also, that he stood up in his own defense. “What have I to do with you, O Syrians and Sidonians?” as we say in French, Qu’avons-nous a desmeller ? (what have we to decide?) Now the Prophet had this in view, that the Syrians and Sidonians became voluntary enemies to the Jews, when they had no dispute with them; and this, as we have said, was less to be borne. “What then have ye to do with me, O Syrians and Sidonians? Do I owe anything to you? Am I under any obligation to you? Do ye repay me my recompense?” that is, “Can you boast of any reason or just pretense for making, war on my people?” He then means, that there had been no wrong done to the Syrians and Sidonians, which they could now retaliate, but that they made an attack through their own wickedness, and were only impelled by avarice or cruelty thus to harass the miserable Jews: “Ye repay not,” he says, “a recompense to me; for ye cannot pretend that any wrong has been done to you by me.”

But if ye repay this to me, he says, I will swiftly return the recompense on your head גמל gimel means not only to repay, as the Hebrew scholars ever render it, but also to confer, to bestow, ( conferre, ut loquuntur Latine ) as it has been stated in another place. ‘What shall I repay to the Lord for all the things which he has recompensed to me?’ This is the common version; but it is an improper and inconsistent mode of speaking. David no doubt refers to God’s benefits; then it is, ‘What shall I repay for all the benefits which the Lord has bestowed on me?’ Then he who first does wrong, or bestows good, is said to recompense; and this is the sense in this place. ‘If ye,’ he says, ‘thus deal with me, “ swiftly ”, מהרה mere suddenly (for the word is to be taken as an adverb,) will I return recompense on your head;’ that is, “Ye shall not be unpunished, since ye have acted so unjustly with me and my people.” We now perceive the whole meaning of the Prophet: He enhances the crime of the Syrians and Sidonians, because they willfully distressed the Jews, and joined themselves to their foreign enemies, for the purpose of seizing on a part of the spoil. As, then, vicinity softened not their minds, their inhumanity was on this account more fully proved. But, as I have said, the Lord here places himself between the two parties, to intimate, that he performs his own proper office when he takes care of the safety of his Church.

He afterwards shows that this wickedness should not be unpunished — If ye deal thus with me, he says, I shall swiftly (suddenly) return the recompense on your heads. This passage contains a singular consolation; for God declares that whatever evils the faithful endure belong to him, and also that he will not suffer those under his protection and defense to be distressed with impunity, but will quickly return recompense on the heads of those who unjustly injure his heritage. We now understand the Prophet’s design: he doubtless intended to support the minds of the godly with this thought, — that their afflictions are objects of concern with God and that he will shortly be the avenger of them, however necessary it may be that they should for a time be thus violently and reproachfully treated by wicked men.

TSK: Joe 3:4 - -- and what : Jdg 11:12; 2Ch 21:16, 2Ch 28:17, 2Ch 28:18; Act 9:4 O Tyre : Amo 1:6-10,Amo 1:12-14; Zec 9:2-8 will ye : Eze 25:12-17 swiftly : Deu 32:35; ...

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Commentary -- Word/Phrase Notes (per Verse)

Barnes: Joe 3:4 - -- Yea, and what have ye to do with Me? - Literally, "and also, what are ye to Me?"The words, "And also,"show that this is something additional to...

Yea, and what have ye to do with Me? - Literally, "and also, what are ye to Me?"The words, "And also,"show that this is something additional to the deeds of those before spoken of. Those, instanced before, were great oppressors, such as dispersed the former people of God and "divided their land."In addition to these, God condemns here another class, those who, without having power to destroy, harass and vex His heritage. The words, "what are ye to Me?"are like that other phrase, "what is there to thee and me?"(Jos 22:24, etc; Mat 8:29, ...), i. e., what have we in common? These words, "what are ye to Me?"also declare, that those nations had no part in God. God accounts them as aliens, "what are ye to Me?"Nothing. But the words convey, besides, that they would, unprovoked, have to do with God, harassing His people without cause. They obtruded themselves, as it were, upon God and His judgments; they challenged God; they thrust themselves in, to their destruction, where they had no great temptation to meddle, noticing, but inbred malice, to impel them.

This was, especially, the character of the relations of Tyre and Zidon and Philistia with Israel. They were allotted to Israel by Joshua, but were not assailed . On the contrary, "the Zidonians"are counted among those who "oppressed"Israel, and "out of"whose "hand"God "delivered"him, when he "cried"to God Jdg 10:12. The Philistines were the unwearied assailants of Israel in the days of the Judges, and Saul, and David Jdg 13:1; 1 Sam. 4; 13; 17; 1Sa 23:1; 1 Sam. 30; 1Sa 31:1-13; during 40 years Israel was given into the hands of the Philistines, until God delivered them by Samuel at Mizpeh. When David was king of all Israel, the Philistines still acted on the offensive, and lost Gath and her towns to David in an offensive war 2Sa 5:17-25; 2Sa 8:1; 1Ch 18:1; 2Sa 21:18; 2Sa 13:9-16. To Jehoshaphat some of them voluntarily paid tribute 2Ch 17:11; but in the reign of Jehoram his son, they, with some Arabians, marauded in Judah, plundering the king’ s house and slaying all his sons, save the youngest 2Ch 21:16-17; 2Ch 22:1. This is the last event before the time of Joel. They stand among the most inveterate and unprovoked enemies of God’ s people, and probably as enemies of God also hating the claim of Judah that their God was the One God.

Will ye render Me a recompense? - People never want pleas for themselves. The Philistines, although the aggressors, had been signally defeated by David. People forget their own wrong-doings and remember their sufferings. It may be then, that the Philistines thought that they had been aggrieved when their assaults were defeated, and looked upon their own fresh aggressions as a requital. If moreover, as is probable, they heard that the signal victories won over them were ascribed by Israel to God, and themselves also suspected, that these "mighty Gods"1Sa 4:7-8 were the cause of their defeat, they doubtless turned their hatred against God. People, when they submit not to God chastening them, hate Him. This belief that they were retaliating against God, (not, of course, knowing Him as God,) fully corresponds with the strong words, "will ye render Me "a recompense?"Julian’ s dying blasphemy, "Galilean, thou hast conquered,"corresponds with the efforts of his life against the gospel, and implies a secret consciousness that He whose religion he was straining to overthrow "might"be, What he denied Him to be, God. The phrase "swiftly,"literally "lightly, and speedily, denotes"the union of easiness with speed. The recompense is returned "upon"their head, coming down upon them from God.

Poole: Joe 3:4 - -- What have ye to do with me? what just cause of quarrel have you against me? Have I done you any wrong which now you avenge upon my people? or do you ...

What have ye to do with me? what just cause of quarrel have you against me? Have I done you any wrong which now you avenge upon my people? or do you begin to violate the law of neighbourhood and friendship, and think to escape? Do ye think you have to do with a poor oppressed people, my people, and I nothing concerned at it?

Tyre a great mart town, which neighbour to the Jews, and ought to be friends, either joined forces with the enemy against them, or, retaining friendship with the enemy, bought the Jews for slaves, and sold them again to strangers, to Grecians: this, in his man trade, Tyre was accustomed to, Eze 27:13 .

Zidon a famous ancient emporium, whose merchants also bought up captive Jews at cheap rates of these barbarous soldiers.

All the coasts of Palestine which lay along the midland sea, among which were towns of trade, and merchants that bought and sold these captives.

Will ye render me a recompence? Do ye this by way of reprisal? Have I or my people so dealt with you or yours?

Speedily will I return your recompence upon your own head I will, since you deal so with my people, and with me, certainly and speedily avenge myself and my people on you; as you have used them they shall use you. It is probable this may refer to the Assyrian invasion, when Sennacherib took all the fenced cities of Judah, and might sell the captives, or to Shalmaneser’ s time’ , when he captured the ten tribes; or it may be a prediction of what Tyre, and Zidon, and these cities of Palestine would do in the Babylonish successes, and a threat what God would do against them for it; but to whatever particular history it refer, who sees not this in it, that God will plead the cause of his oppressed church, and avenge it as his own cause?

Haydock: Joe 3:4 - -- Me. These cities and nations had rejoiced at the ruin of the Jews, Ezechiel xxv. (Calmet) --- Coast. Septuagint, "Galilee of strangers." (Haydo...

Me. These cities and nations had rejoiced at the ruin of the Jews, Ezechiel xxv. (Calmet) ---

Coast. Septuagint, "Galilee of strangers." (Haydock)

Gill: Joe 3:4 - -- Yea, and what have ye to do with me, O Tyre, and Zidon, and all the coasts of Palestine?.... The Tyrians, Zidonians, and Philistines, were near neighb...

Yea, and what have ye to do with me, O Tyre, and Zidon, and all the coasts of Palestine?.... The Tyrians, Zidonians, and Philistines, were near neighbours of the Jews, and implacable enemies to them; and are here put for the enemies of the true church of Christ, the Papists and Turks, and in whose possession those places now are: these are addressed by the Lord, inquiring or demanding the reason of their ill usage of him and his people: "what have ye to do with me?" to be called by my name, or accounted my people? I know you not, nor will I have any fellowship with you: or what have ye to do with my people, to disturb and distress them? what wrong have I or they done you, that you thus use them?

will ye render me a recompence? for turning you out of your land, and putting my people into it? do you think to retaliate this?

and if ye recompense me; by doing an injury to my people:

swiftly and speedily will I return your recompence upon your own head; bring swift and sudden destruction upon you.

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Commentary -- Verse Notes / Footnotes

NET Notes: Joe 3:4 Heb “quickly, speedily, I will return your recompense on your head.” This is an idiom for retributive justice and an equitable reversal of...

Geneva Bible: Joe 3:4 Yea, and ( d ) what have ye to do with me, O Tyre, and Zidon, and all the coasts of Palestine? will ye render me ( e ) a recompence? and if ye recompe...

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Commentary -- Verse Range Notes

TSK Synopsis: Joe 3:1-21 - --1 God's judgments against the enemies of his people.9 God will be known in his judgment.18 His blessing upon the church.

MHCC: Joe 3:1-8 - --The restoration of the Jews, and the final victory of true religion over all opposers, appear to be here foretold. The contempt and scorn with which t...

Matthew Henry: Joe 3:1-8 - -- We have often heard of the year of the redeemed, and the year of recompences for the controversy of Zion; now here we have a description of the ...

Keil-Delitzsch: Joe 3:2-8 - -- In Joe 3:2 and Joe 3:3 Joel is speaking not of events belonging to his own time, or to the most recent past, but of that dispersion of the whole of ...

Constable: Joe 2:28--Amo 1:1 - --IV. A far future day of the Lord: another human invasion and deliverance 2:28--3:21 The preceding promises fores...

Constable: Joe 3:1-17 - --B. God's judgment on Israel's enemy nations 3:1-17 God's judgment on unbelievers would accompany the spi...

Constable: Joe 3:1-8 - --1. The announcement of judgment 3:1-8 3:1-3 When God would restore the fortunes of Judah and Jerusalem in that future day (cf. Deut. 30:3), He would g...

Guzik: Joe 3:1-21 - --Joel 3 - Judgment in the Valley of Decision A. A warning to the nations. 1. (1-3) A promise to bring back scattered and mistreated Israel. "F...

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Introduction / Outline

JFB: Joel (Book Introduction) JOEL (meaning "one to whom Jehovah is God," that is, worshipper of Jehovah) seems to have belonged to Judah, as no reference occurs to Israel; whereas...

JFB: Joel (Outline) THE DESOLATE ASPECT OF THE COUNTRY THROUGH THE PLAGUE OF LOCUSTS; THE PEOPLE ADMONISHED TO OFFER SOLEMN PRAYERS IN THE TEMPLE; FOR THIS CALAMITY IS T...

TSK: Joel (Book Introduction) It is generally supposed, that the prophet Joel blends two subjects of affliction in one general consideration, or beautiful allegory; and that, under...

TSK: Joel 3 (Chapter Introduction) Overview Joe 3:1, God’s judgments against the enemies of his people; Joe 3:9, God will be known in his judgment; Joe 3:18, His blessing upon the...

Poole: Joel (Book Introduction) THE ARGUMENT Since so many undeterminable points of less moment occur in our prophet, as of what tribe he was, whether his father were a prophet, w...

Poole: Joel 3 (Chapter Introduction) CHAPTER 3 God’ s judgments against the enemies of his people, Joe 3:1-17 . His blessing upon the church, Joe 3:18-21 . Though our dividing t...

MHCC: Joel (Book Introduction) From the desolations about to come upon the land of Judah, by the ravages of locusts and other insects, the prophet Joel exhorts the Jews to repentanc...

MHCC: Joel 3 (Chapter Introduction) (Joe 3:1-8) God's judgments in the latter days. (Joe 3:9-17) The extent of these judgments. (Joe 3:18-21) The blessings the church shall enjoy.

Matthew Henry: Joel (Book Introduction) An Exposition, with Practical Observations, of The Book of the Prophet Joel We are altogether uncertain concerning the time when this prophet prophesi...

Matthew Henry: Joel 3 (Chapter Introduction) In the close of the foregoing chapter we had a gracious promise of deliverance in Mount Zion and Jerusalem; now this whole chapter is a comment upo...

Constable: Joel (Book Introduction) Introduction Title and Writer The title of this book is the name of its writer, as is ...

Constable: Joel (Outline) Outline I. Introduction 1:1 II. A past day of the Lord: a locust invasion 1:2-20 ...

Constable: Joel Joel Bibliography Allen, Leslie C. The Books of Joel, Obadiah, Jonah and Micah. The New International Commentar...

Haydock: Joel (Book Introduction) THE PROPHECY OF JOEL. INTRODUCTION. Joel , whose name, according to St. Jerome, signifies the Lord God, (or, as others say, the coming down...

Gill: Joel (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO JOEL In some Hebrew Bibles this prophecy is called "Sepher Joel", the Book of Joel; in the Vulgate Latin version, the Prophecy of J...

Gill: Joel 3 (Chapter Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO JOEL 3 This chapter, which some make the fourth, contains a prophecy of God's judgments on all the antichristian nations at the tim...

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