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Text -- John 12:29 (NET)

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12:29 The crowd that stood there and heard the voice said that it had thundered. Others said that an angel had spoken to him.
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Robertson: Joh 12:29 - -- That it had thundered ( brontēn gegonenai ). Perfect active infinitive of ginomai in indirect discourse after elegen and the accusative of gene...

That it had thundered ( brontēn gegonenai ).

Perfect active infinitive of ginomai in indirect discourse after elegen and the accusative of general reference (brontēn , thunder, as in Mar 3:17), "that thunder came to pass."So the crowd "standing by"(hestōs , second perfect active participle of histēmi ), but Jesus understood his Father’ s voice.

Robertson: Joh 12:29 - -- An angel hath spoken to him ( Aggelos autōi lelalēken ). Perfect active indicative of laleō . So, when Jesus spoke to Saul on the way to Damasc...

An angel hath spoken to him ( Aggelos autōi lelalēken ).

Perfect active indicative of laleō . So, when Jesus spoke to Saul on the way to Damascus, those with Saul heard the voice, but did not understand (Act 9:7; Act 22:9).

Wesley: Joh 12:29 - -- A sound, but not the distinct words - In the most glorious revelations there may remain something obscure, to exercise our faith. Said, It thundered -...

A sound, but not the distinct words - In the most glorious revelations there may remain something obscure, to exercise our faith. Said, It thundered - Thunder did frequently attend a voice from heaven. Perhaps it did so now.

JFB: Joh 12:29-33 - -- Some hearing only a sound, others an articulate, but to them unintelligible voice.

Some hearing only a sound, others an articulate, but to them unintelligible voice.

Clarke: Joh 12:29 - -- The people - said that it thundered: others - an angel spake to him - Bishop Pearce says, Probably there was thunder as well as a voice, as in Exo 1...

The people - said that it thundered: others - an angel spake to him - Bishop Pearce says, Probably there was thunder as well as a voice, as in Exo 19:16, Exo 19:17, and some persons, who were at a small distance, might hear the thunder without hearing the voice; while others heard the voice too; and these last said, "An angel hath spoken to him.

Wetstein supposes that the voice was in the language then in use among the Jews; which the Greeks, not understanding, took for thunder; the others, the Jews, who did understand it, said it was the voice of an angel. In Rev 6:1, the voice of one of the living creatures is compared to thunder; and in Rev 10:3, the voice of an angel is compared to seven thunders. The voice mentioned was probably very loud, which some heard distinctly, others indistinctly; hence the variety of opinion.

Calvin: Joh 12:29 - -- 29.That it thundered It was truly monstrous, that the assembled multitude were unmoved by so evident a miracle. Some are so deaf, that they hear as a...

29.That it thundered It was truly monstrous, that the assembled multitude were unmoved by so evident a miracle. Some are so deaf, that they hear as a confused sound what God had distinctly pronounced. Others are less dull of caring, but yet take away much from the majesty of the Divine voice, by pretending that it was an angel who spoke. But the same thing is practiced every day; for God speaks plainly enough in the Gospel, in which is also displayed the power and energy of the Spirit, which ought to shake heaven and earth; but many are as little affected by the doctrine, as if it only proceeded from a mortal man, and others consider the word of God to be confused and barbarous, as if it were nothing else than thunder.

But a question arises: Did that voice sound from heaven without any profit or advantage? I reply, what the Evangelist here ascribes to the multitude belongs only to a part of them; for there were some besides the Apostles who did not interpret it so badly. But the Evangelist intended to point out briefly what is commonly done in the world; and that is, that the greater part of men, while they hear God, do not hear him though he speak plainly and distinctly.

TSK: Joh 12:29 - -- thundered : Exo 19:16, Exo 20:18; Job 37:2-5, Job 40:9; Eze 10:5; Rev 6:1, Rev 8:5, Rev 11:19, Rev 14:2 An angel : Act 23:8, Act 23:9; Rev 18:1, Rev 1...

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Barnes: Joh 12:29 - -- The people - A part of the people. It thundered - The unexpected sound of the voice would confound and amaze them; and though there is no...

The people - A part of the people.

It thundered - The unexpected sound of the voice would confound and amaze them; and though there is no reason to doubt that the words were spoken distinctly Mat 3:17, yet some of the people, either from amazement or envy, would suppose that this was a mere natural phenomenon.

An angel spake - It was the opinion of many of the Jews that God did not speak to men except by the ministry of angels, Heb 2:2; "The word spoken by angels;"Gal 3:19; "It was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator."

Poole: Joh 12:29 - -- The people said that it thundered nor, it may be, were they mistaken, saving only in this, that they thought it was nothing else but thunder (being p...

The people said that it thundered nor, it may be, were they mistaken, saving only in this, that they thought it was nothing else but thunder (being possibly at such a distance, as they could not distinctly hear the voice); for it was God’ s way, when he spake unto his people by a voice, to have that voice, for the greater declaration of the Divine majesty, attended with thunderings and lightnings: thus it was at the giving of the law upon Mount Sinai; thus we read in John’ s visions, Rev 4:5 8:5 , of lightnings, and thunderings, and voices, which proceeded from God’ s throne.

Others said, An angel spake to him: it was the general opinion of the Jews, that God always, when by voice he revealed his mind to his people, made use of an angel to do it by; hence, probably, as those who were at such a distance that they heard no voice, thought it was nothing but thunder; so those who are so nigh as, besides the thunder, to hear a voice, said, It was an angel that spake with him.

Gill: Joh 12:29 - -- The people therefore that stood by and heard it,.... Some more confusedly, who were farthest off; others more distinctly, who were nearer: the first ...

The people therefore that stood by and heard it,.... Some more confusedly, who were farthest off; others more distinctly, who were nearer: the first of these,

said that it thundered; as it used to do when "Bath Kol" was heard, which, as the Jews say a,

"is a voice that comes out of heaven proceeding from the midst of another voice,''

as thunder; wherefore some took this for thunder, and others for the voice of an angel out of the thunder:

others said, an angel spoke to him; these being nearer, perceived it was an articulate voice, which expressed certain distinct words, which they thought were delivered by an angel; for the Jews had a mighty notion of the discourse and conversation of angels with men, which their doctors pretended to understand; particularly R. Jochanan ben Zaccai, a Rabbi, who was living at this time, had learned their speech, and was well versed in it b.

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Commentary -- Verse Notes / Footnotes

NET Notes: Joh 12:29 Grk “Others said, “An angel has spoken to him.” The direct discourse in the second half of v. 29 was converted to indirect discourse...

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Commentary -- Verse Range Notes

TSK Synopsis: Joh 12:1-50 - --1 Jesus excuses Mary anointing his feet.9 The people flock to see Lazarus.10 The chief priests consult to kill him.12 Christ rides into Jerusalem.20 G...

Combined Bible: Joh 12:21-36 - --Exposition of the Gospel of John    CHAPTER 43    Christ Sought by Gentiles    John 12:20-36    The fol...

MHCC: Joh 12:27-33 - --The sin of our souls was the troubled of Christ's soul, when he undertook to redeem and save us, and to make his soul an offering for our sin. Christ ...

Matthew Henry: Joh 12:27-36 - -- Honour is here done to Christ by his Father in a voice from heaven, occasioned by the following part of his discourse, and which gave occasion to a ...

Barclay: Joh 12:27-34 - --In this passage John shows us both Jesus' tension and his triumph, and shows us what turned the tension into the triumph. (i) John does not tell us ...

Barclay: Joh 12:27-34 - --Jesus claimed that, when he was lifted up, he would draw all men to him. Some take this to refer to the Ascension and think it means that when Jesu...

Constable: Joh 1:19--13:1 - --II. Jesus' public ministry 1:19--12:50 The first part of the body of John's Gospel records Jesus' public ministr...

Constable: Joh 11:1--12:50 - --I. The conclusion of Jesus' public ministry chs. 11-12 The major theme of the Gospel, Jesus' identity as...

Constable: Joh 12:20-36 - --6. Jesus' announcement of His death 12:20-36 One example that Jesus was attracting people from o...

Constable: Joh 12:27-36 - --The importance of believing now 12:27-36 12:27 Anticipation of the death that had to precede the glory troubled Jesus deeply (Gr. tataraktai, cf. 11:3...

College: Joh 12:1-50 - --JOHN 12 8. Preparation for Passover and Death (12:1-50) Mary's Anointing of Jesus (12:1-11) 1 Six days before the Passover, Jesus arrived at Bethan...

McGarvey: Joh 12:20-50 - -- CXII. GREEKS SEEK JESUS. HE FORETELLS THAT HE SHALL DRAW ALL MEN UNTO HIM. (In the Temple. Tuesday, April 4, A. D. 30.) dJOHN XII. 20-50.  &nbs...

Lapide: Joh 12:1-36 - --1-50 CHAPTER 12 Ver. 1.— Then Jesus six days before the Passover, &c. He came from Ephraim, as the Passover was drawing on when He was to die. An...

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Introduction / Outline

Robertson: John (Book Introduction) THE Fourth Gospel By Way of Introduction Greatest of Books The test of time has given the palm to the Fourth Gospel over all the books of the wor...

JFB: John (Book Introduction) THE author of the Fourth Gospel was the younger of the two sons of Zebedee, a fisherman on the Sea of Galilee, who resided at Bethsaida, where were bo...

JFB: John (Outline) THE WORD MADE FLESH. (Joh 1:1-14) A SAYING OF THE BAPTIST CONFIRMATORY OF THIS. (Joh 1:15) SAME SUBJECT CONTINUED. (Joh 1:16-18) THE BAPTIST'S TESTIM...

TSK: John (Book Introduction) John, who, according to the unanimous testimony of the ancient fathers and ecclesiastical writers, was the author of this Gospel, was the son of Zebed...

TSK: John 12 (Chapter Introduction) Overview Joh 12:1, Jesus excuses Mary anointing his feet; Joh 12:9, The people flock to see Lazarus; Joh 12:10, The chief priests consult to kill ...

Poole: John 12 (Chapter Introduction) CHAPTER 12

MHCC: John (Book Introduction) The apostle and evangelist, John, seems to have been the youngest of the twelve. He was especially favoured with our Lord's regard and confidence, so ...

MHCC: John 12 (Chapter Introduction) (Joh 12:1-11) Christ anointed by Mary. (Joh 12:12-19) He enters Jerusalem. (Joh 12:20-26) Greeks apply to see Jesus. (Joh 12:27-33) A voice from he...

Matthew Henry: John (Book Introduction) An Exposition, with Practical Observations, of The Gospel According to St. John It is not material to enquire when and where this gospel was written; ...

Matthew Henry: John 12 (Chapter Introduction) It was a melancholy account which we had in the close of the foregoing chapter of the dishonour done to our Lord Jesus, when the scribes and Pharis...

Barclay: John (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO SAINT JOHN The Gospel Of The EagleEye For many Christian people the Gospel according to St. John is the mos...

Barclay: John 12 (Chapter Introduction) Love's Extravagance (Joh_12:1-8) Love's Extravagance (Joh_12:1-8 Continued) A Plan To Destroy The Evidence (Joh_12:9-11) A King's Welcome (Joh_1...

Constable: John (Book Introduction) Introduction Writer The writer of this Gospel did not identify himself as such in the ...

Constable: John (Outline) Outline I. Prologue 1:1-18 A. The preincarnate Word 1:1-5 B. The witness...

Constable: John John Bibliography Allen, Ronald B. "Affirming Right-of-Way on Ancient Paths." Bibliotheca Sacra 153:609 (Januar...

Haydock: John (Book Introduction) THE HOLY GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST, ACCORDING TO ST. JOHN. INTRODUCTION St. John, the evangelist, a native of Bathsaida, in Galilee, was the son ...

Gill: John (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO JOHN The author of this Gospel is John, the son of Zebedee and Salome, the brother of James the greater; he outlived the rest of th...

College: John (Book Introduction) PREFACE INTRODUCTION Even the casual reader of the New Testament will notice that the first three accounts of Jesus' life are generally similar in t...

College: John (Outline) OUTLINE A good outline is more than half the battle in one's understanding and remembering the contents of any book. There is more than one way to bre...

Lapide: John (Book Introduction) NOTICE TO THE READER. Gospel of John Intro ——o—— AS it has been found impossible to compress the Translation of the Commentary upon S. John...

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