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Text -- John 12:8 (NET)

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12:8 For you will always have the poor with you, but you will not always have me!”
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Robertson: Joh 12:8 - -- Ye have always ( pantote echete ). Jesus does not discredit gifts to the poor at all. But there is relativity in one’ s duties.

Ye have always ( pantote echete ).

Jesus does not discredit gifts to the poor at all. But there is relativity in one’ s duties.

Robertson: Joh 12:8 - -- But me ye have not always ( eme de ou pantote echete ). This is what Mary perceived with her delicate woman’ s intuition and what the apostles f...

But me ye have not always ( eme de ou pantote echete ).

This is what Mary perceived with her delicate woman’ s intuition and what the apostles failed to understand though repeatedly and plainly told by Jesus. John does not mention the precious promise of praise for Mary preserved in Mar 14:9; Mat 26:13, but he does show her keen sympathetic insight and Christ’ s genuine appreciation of her noble deed. It is curiously mal-a - propos surely to put alongside this incident the other incident told long before by Luke (Luk 7:35.) of the sinful woman. Let Mary alone in her glorious act of love.

JFB: Joh 12:1-8 - -- That is, on the sixth day before it; probably after sunset on Friday evening, or the commencement of the Jewish sabbath preceding the passover.

That is, on the sixth day before it; probably after sunset on Friday evening, or the commencement of the Jewish sabbath preceding the passover.

JFB: Joh 12:8 - -- Referring to Deu 15:11.

Referring to Deu 15:11.

JFB: Joh 12:8 - -- A gentle hint of His approaching departure. He adds (Mar 14:8), "She hath done what she could," a noble testimony, embodying a principle of immense im...

A gentle hint of His approaching departure. He adds (Mar 14:8), "She hath done what she could," a noble testimony, embodying a principle of immense importance. "Verily, I say unto you, Wheresoever this Gospel shall be preached in the whole world, there shall also this, that this woman hath done, be told for a memorial of her" (Mat 26:13; Mar 14:9). "In the act of love done to Him she had erected to herself an eternal monument, as lasting as the Gospel, the eternal word of God. From generation to generation this remarkable prophecy of the Lord has been fulfilled; and even we, in explaining this saying of the Redeemer, of necessity contribute to its accomplishment" [OLSHAUSEN]. "Who but Himself had the power to ensure to any work of man, even if resounding in his own time through the whole earth, an imperishable remembrance in the stream of history? Behold once more here, the majesty of His royal judicial supremacy in the government of the world, in this, Verily I say unto you" [STIER]. Beautiful are the lessons here: (1) Love to Christ transfigures the humblest services. All, indeed, who have themselves a heart value its least outgoings beyond the most costly mechanical performances; but how does it endear the Saviour to us to find Him endorsing the principle as His own standard in judging of character and deeds!

What though in poor and humble guise

Thou here didst sojourn, cottage-born,

Yet from Thy glory in the skies

Our earthly gold Thou didst not scorn.

For Love delights to bring her best,

And where Love is, that offering evermore is blest.

Love on the Saviour's dying head

Her spikenard drops unblam'd may pour,

May mount His cross, and wrap Him dead

In spices from the golden shore.

KEBLE.

JFB: Joh 12:8 - -- "She hath done what she could" (Mar 14:8). (5) As Jesus beheld in spirit the universal diffusion of His Gospel, while His lowest depth of humiliation ...

"She hath done what she could" (Mar 14:8). (5) As Jesus beheld in spirit the universal diffusion of His Gospel, while His lowest depth of humiliation was only approaching, so He regards the facts of His earthly history as constituting the substance of this Gospel, and the relation of them as just the "preaching of this Gospel." Not that preachers are to confine themselves to a bare narration of these facts, but that they are to make their whole preaching turn upon them as its grand center, and derive from them its proper vitality; all that goes before this in the Bible being but the preparation for them, and all that follows but the sequel.

Calvin: Joh 12:8 - -- 8.For the poor you have always with you We must observe what I have already pointed out, that a distinction is here drawn expressly between the extra...

8.For the poor you have always with you We must observe what I have already pointed out, that a distinction is here drawn expressly between the extraordinary action of Mary, and the daily service which is due to Christ. Those persons, therefore, are apes, and not imitators, who are desirous to serve Christ by costly and splendid display; as if Christ approved of what was done once, and did not rather forbid that it should be done afterwards.

But me you have not always When he says, that he will not always be with his disciples, this ought to be referred to that kind of presence to which carnal worship and costly honors are suitable. For as to his presence with us by the grace and power of his Spirit, his dwelling in us, and also feeding us with his flesh and blood, this has nothing to do with bodily observances. Of all the pompous ceremonies which the Papists have contrived for the worship of Christ, in vain do they tell us, that they have bestowed them upon him, for he openly rejects them. When he says, that the poor will always be with us, though, by this saying, he reproves the hypocrisy of the Jews, yet we may learn from it a profitable doctrine; namely, that alms, by which the wants of the poor are relieved, are sacrifices acceptable, and of sweet savor, to God, and that any other kind of expense in the worship of God is improperly bestowed.

Defender: Joh 12:8 - -- This could be taken as a fulfilled prophecy. No matter what scheme of government or economics has been tried throughout history, poverty has never bee...

This could be taken as a fulfilled prophecy. No matter what scheme of government or economics has been tried throughout history, poverty has never been eliminated; this is as true today as in the days of Jesus."

TSK: Joh 12:8 - -- the poor : Deu 15:11; Mat 26:11; Mar 14:7 but : Joh 12:35, Joh 8:21, Joh 13:33, Joh 16:5-7; Son 5:6; Act 1:9-11

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Barnes: Joh 12:2-8 - -- See this passage explained in the notes at Mat 26:3-16. Joh 12:2 A supper - At the house of Simon the leper, Mat 26:6. Lazarus was ....

See this passage explained in the notes at Mat 26:3-16.

Joh 12:2

A supper - At the house of Simon the leper, Mat 26:6.

Lazarus was ... - The names of Martha and Lazarus are mentioned because it was not in their own house, but in that of Simon. Lazarus is particularly mentioned, since it was so remarkable that one who had been once dead should be enjoying again the endearments of friendship. This shows, also, that his resurrection was no illusion - that he was really restored to the blessings of life and friendship. Calmet thinks that this was about two months after his resurrection, and it is the last that we hear of him. How long he lived is unknown, nor is it recorded that he made any communication about the world of spirits. It is remarkable that none who have been restored to life from the dead have made any communications respecting that world. See Luk 16:31, and the notes at 2Co 12:4.

Joh 12:4

Which should betray him - Greek, "who was to betray him"- that is, who would do it.

Joh 12:5

Three hundred pence - About 40,00, or 8 British pounds, 10 shillings (circa 1880’ s).

And given to the poor - The avails or value of it given to the poor.

Joh 12:6

Had the bag - The word translated "bag"is compounded of two words, meaning "tongue,"and "to keep or preserve."It was used to denote the bag in which musicians used to keep the tongues or reeds of their pipes when traveling. Hence, it came to mean any bag or purse in which travelers put their money or their most precious articles. The disciples appear to have had such a bag or purse in common, in which they put whatever money they had, and which was designed especially for the poor, Luk 8:3; Joh 13:29; Act 2:44. The keeping of this, it seems, was intrusted to Judas; and it is remarkable that the only one among them who appears to have been naturally avaricious should have received this appointment. It shows us that every man is tried according to his native propensity. This is the object of trial - to bring out man’ s native character; and every man will find opportunity to do evil according to his native disposition, if he is inclined, to it.

And bare ... - The word translated "bare"means literally "to carry as a burden."Then it means "to carry away,"as in Joh 20:15; "If thou hast borne him hence."Hence, it means to carry away as a thief does, and this is evidently its meaning here. It has this sense often in classic writers. Judas was a thief and stole what was put into the bag. The money he desired to be entrusted to him, that he might secretly enrich himself. It is clear, however, that the disciples did not at this time know that this was his character, or they would have remonstrated against him. They learned it afterward. We may learn here:

1.\caps1     t\caps0 hat it is not a new thing for members of the church to be covetous. Judas was so before them.

2.\caps1     t\caps0 hat such members will be those who complain of the great waste in spreading the gospel.

3.\caps1     t\caps0 hat this deadly, mean, and grovelling passion will work all evil in a church. It brought down the curse of God on the children of Israel in the case of Achan Josh. 7, and it betrayed our Lord to death. It has often since brought blighting on the church; and many a time it has betrayed the cause of Christ, and drowned men in destruction and perdition, 1Ti 6:9.

Poole: Joh 12:3-8 - -- Ver. 3-8. Both Matthew and Mark relate this story with some different circumstances: see the notes upon those two places, where all the differing cir...

Ver. 3-8. Both Matthew and Mark relate this story with some different circumstances: see the notes upon those two places, where all the differing circumstances are considered and explained, and the parts of this history are more largely explained.

Haydock: Joh 12:8 - -- Me you have not always with you. He speaks of his corporal presence; for by his majesty, by his providence, by his ineffable and invincible grace, h...

Me you have not always with you. He speaks of his corporal presence; for by his majesty, by his providence, by his ineffable and invincible grace, he ever fulfils what he said, (Matthew xxviii.) Behold I am with you all days, even to the consummation of the world. (St. Augustine, tract. 50 in Joan.)

Gill: Joh 12:8 - -- For the poor always ye have with you,.... And so would not want opportunities of showing a regard to them, which Christ always recommended; nor does h...

For the poor always ye have with you,.... And so would not want opportunities of showing a regard to them, which Christ always recommended; nor does he here in the least discourage an industrious and affectionate concern for them: the words seem to be a sort of prophecy, that there would be always poor persons in the churches of Christ, to be taken care of and provided for; See Gill on Mat 26:11; and yet the Jews suppose cases, in which the collectors of alms may have no poor to distribute to, and direct what they shall do in such cases l:

but me ye have not always; meaning, with respect to his corporeal presence, which would be quickly withdrawn from them, when there would be no more an opportunity of showing him personal respect, in such a way.

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Commentary -- Verse Notes / Footnotes

NET Notes: Joh 12:8 In the Greek text of this clause, “me” is in emphatic position (the first word in the clause). To convey some impression of the emphasis, ...

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TSK Synopsis: Joh 12:1-50 - --1 Jesus excuses Mary anointing his feet.9 The people flock to see Lazarus.10 The chief priests consult to kill him.12 Christ rides into Jerusalem.20 G...

Combined Bible: Joh 12:1-11 - --of the Gospel of John    CHAPTER 41    Christ Anointed at Bethany    John 12:1-11    Below is an Analys...

Maclaren: Joh 12:1-11 - --Love's Prodigality Censured And Vindicated Then Jesus, six days before the passover, came to Bethany, where Lazarus was which had been dead, whom He ...

MHCC: Joh 12:1-11 - --Christ had formerly blamed Martha for being troubled with much serving. But she did not leave off serving, as some, who when found fault with for goin...

Matthew Henry: Joh 12:1-11 - -- In these verses we have, I. The kind visit our Lord Jesus paid to his friends at Bethany, Joh 12:1. He came up out of the country, six days befor...

Barclay: Joh 12:1-8 - --We have seen on other occasions that many scholars believe that certain parts of John's gospel have become displaced. Some suspect a dislocation here...

Barclay: Joh 12:1-8 - --(iii) There is the character of Judas. There are three things here about him. (a) We see Jesus' trust in Judas. As far back as Joh 6:70-71, John s...

Constable: Joh 1:19--13:1 - --II. Jesus' public ministry 1:19--12:50 The first part of the body of John's Gospel records Jesus' public ministr...

Constable: Joh 11:1--12:50 - --I. The conclusion of Jesus' public ministry chs. 11-12 The major theme of the Gospel, Jesus' identity as...

Constable: Joh 12:1-8 - --3. Mary's anointing of Jesus 12:1-8 (cf. Matt. 26:6-13; Mark 14:3-9) In contrast to the hatred that the religious leaders manifested stands the love t...

College: Joh 12:1-50 - --JOHN 12 8. Preparation for Passover and Death (12:1-50) Mary's Anointing of Jesus (12:1-11) 1 Six days before the Passover, Jesus arrived at Bethan...

McGarvey: Joh 12:1-11 - --P A R T  S E V E N T H. LAST WEEK OF OUR LORD'S MINISTRY, THE FOURTH PASSOVER, THE CRUCIFIXION. CIV. JESUS ARRIVES AND IS FEASTED AT BETHANY. (Fr...

Lapide: Joh 12:1-36 - --1-50 CHAPTER 12 Ver. 1.— Then Jesus six days before the Passover, &c. He came from Ephraim, as the Passover was drawing on when He was to die. An...

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Commentary -- Other

Evidence: Joh 12:8 Men have been helped to live by remembering that they must die. CHARLES SPURGEON

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Introduction / Outline

Robertson: John (Book Introduction) THE Fourth Gospel By Way of Introduction Greatest of Books The test of time has given the palm to the Fourth Gospel over all the books of the wor...

JFB: John (Book Introduction) THE author of the Fourth Gospel was the younger of the two sons of Zebedee, a fisherman on the Sea of Galilee, who resided at Bethsaida, where were bo...

JFB: John (Outline) THE WORD MADE FLESH. (Joh 1:1-14) A SAYING OF THE BAPTIST CONFIRMATORY OF THIS. (Joh 1:15) SAME SUBJECT CONTINUED. (Joh 1:16-18) THE BAPTIST'S TESTIM...

TSK: John (Book Introduction) John, who, according to the unanimous testimony of the ancient fathers and ecclesiastical writers, was the author of this Gospel, was the son of Zebed...

TSK: John 12 (Chapter Introduction) Overview Joh 12:1, Jesus excuses Mary anointing his feet; Joh 12:9, The people flock to see Lazarus; Joh 12:10, The chief priests consult to kill ...

Poole: John 12 (Chapter Introduction) CHAPTER 12

MHCC: John (Book Introduction) The apostle and evangelist, John, seems to have been the youngest of the twelve. He was especially favoured with our Lord's regard and confidence, so ...

MHCC: John 12 (Chapter Introduction) (Joh 12:1-11) Christ anointed by Mary. (Joh 12:12-19) He enters Jerusalem. (Joh 12:20-26) Greeks apply to see Jesus. (Joh 12:27-33) A voice from he...

Matthew Henry: John (Book Introduction) An Exposition, with Practical Observations, of The Gospel According to St. John It is not material to enquire when and where this gospel was written; ...

Matthew Henry: John 12 (Chapter Introduction) It was a melancholy account which we had in the close of the foregoing chapter of the dishonour done to our Lord Jesus, when the scribes and Pharis...

Barclay: John (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO SAINT JOHN The Gospel Of The EagleEye For many Christian people the Gospel according to St. John is the mos...

Barclay: John 12 (Chapter Introduction) Love's Extravagance (Joh_12:1-8) Love's Extravagance (Joh_12:1-8 Continued) A Plan To Destroy The Evidence (Joh_12:9-11) A King's Welcome (Joh_1...

Constable: John (Book Introduction) Introduction Writer The writer of this Gospel did not identify himself as such in the ...

Constable: John (Outline) Outline I. Prologue 1:1-18 A. The preincarnate Word 1:1-5 B. The witness...

Constable: John John Bibliography Allen, Ronald B. "Affirming Right-of-Way on Ancient Paths." Bibliotheca Sacra 153:609 (Januar...

Haydock: John (Book Introduction) THE HOLY GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST, ACCORDING TO ST. JOHN. INTRODUCTION St. John, the evangelist, a native of Bathsaida, in Galilee, was the son ...

Gill: John (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO JOHN The author of this Gospel is John, the son of Zebedee and Salome, the brother of James the greater; he outlived the rest of th...

College: John (Book Introduction) PREFACE INTRODUCTION Even the casual reader of the New Testament will notice that the first three accounts of Jesus' life are generally similar in t...

College: John (Outline) OUTLINE A good outline is more than half the battle in one's understanding and remembering the contents of any book. There is more than one way to bre...

Lapide: John (Book Introduction) NOTICE TO THE READER. Gospel of John Intro ——o—— AS it has been found impossible to compress the Translation of the Commentary upon S. John...

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