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Text -- John 17:9 (NET)

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17:9 I am praying on behalf of them. I am not praying on behalf of the world, but on behalf of those you have given me, because they belong to you.
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Robertson: Joh 17:9 - -- I pray ( egō erōtō ). Request, not question, as in Joh 16:23.

I pray ( egō erōtō ).

Request, not question, as in Joh 16:23.

Robertson: Joh 17:9 - -- Not for the world ( ou peri tou kosmou ). Now at this point in the prayer Christ means. In Joh 17:19 Jesus does pray for the world (for future believ...

Not for the world ( ou peri tou kosmou ).

Now at this point in the prayer Christ means. In Joh 17:19 Jesus does pray for the world (for future believers) that it may believe (Joh 17:21). God loves the whole world (Joh 3:16). Christ died for sinners (Rom 5:8) and prayed for sinners (Luk 23:34) and intercedes for sinners (1Jo 2:1.; Rom 8:34; Heb 7:25).

Robertson: Joh 17:9 - -- For those whom ( peri hōn ). A condensed and common Greek idiom for peri toutōn hous with toutōn (the demonstrative antecedent) omitted and...

For those whom ( peri hōn ).

A condensed and common Greek idiom for peri toutōn hous with toutōn (the demonstrative antecedent) omitted and the relative hous attracted from the accusative hous (object of dedōkas ) to the case (genitive) of the omitted antecedent.

Vincent: Joh 17:9 - -- I pray ( ἐρωτῶ ) More strictly, I make request . See on Joh 16:23. The I is emphatic, as throughout the prayer.

I pray ( ἐρωτῶ )

More strictly, I make request . See on Joh 16:23. The I is emphatic, as throughout the prayer.

Wesley: Joh 17:9 - -- Not in these petitions, which are adapted to the state of believers only. (He prays for the world at Joh 17:21, Joh 17:23, that they may believe - Tha...

Not in these petitions, which are adapted to the state of believers only. (He prays for the world at Joh 17:21, Joh 17:23, that they may believe - That they may know God hath sent him.) This no more proves that our Lord did not pray for the world, both before and afterward, than his praying for the apostles alone, Joh 17:6-19, proves that he did not pray for them also which shall believe through their word, Joh 17:20.

JFB: Joh 17:9-14 - -- Not as individuals merely, but as representatives of all such in every succeeding age (see on Joh 17:20).

Not as individuals merely, but as representatives of all such in every succeeding age (see on Joh 17:20).

JFB: Joh 17:9-14 - -- For they had been given Him "out of the world" (Joh 17:6), and had been already transformed into the very opposite of it. The things sought for them, ...

For they had been given Him "out of the world" (Joh 17:6), and had been already transformed into the very opposite of it. The things sought for them, indeed, are applicable only to such.

Clarke: Joh 17:9 - -- I pray not for the world - I am not yet come to that part of my intercession: see Joh 17:20. I am now wholly employed for my disciples, that they ma...

I pray not for the world - I am not yet come to that part of my intercession: see Joh 17:20. I am now wholly employed for my disciples, that they may be properly qualified to preach my salvation to the ends of the earth. Jesus here imitates the high priest, the second part of whose prayer, on the day of expiation, was for the priests, the sons of Aaron: see on Joh 17:1 (note). These words may also be understood as applying to the rebellious Jews. God’ s wrath was about to descend upon them, and Christ prays that his own followers might be kept from the evil, Joh 17:15. But he does not thus pray for the world, the rebellious Jews, because the cup of their iniquity was full, and their judgment slumbered not.

Calvin: Joh 17:9 - -- 9.I pray for them. Hitherto Christ has brought forward what might procure for the disciples favor with the Father. He now forms the prayer itself, in...

9.I pray for them. Hitherto Christ has brought forward what might procure for the disciples favor with the Father. He now forms the prayer itself, in which he shows that he asks nothing but what is agreeable to the will of the Father, because he pleads with the Father in behalf of those only whom the Father himself willingly loves. He openly declares that he does not pray for the world, because he has no solicitude but about his own flock, which he received from the hand of the Father. But this might be thought to be absurd; for no better rule of prayer can be found than to follow Christ as our Guide and Teacher. Now, we are commanded to pray for all, (Tit 2:8) and Christ himself afterwards prayed indiscriminately for all,

Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do,
(Luk 23:34.)

I reply, the prayers which we offer for all are still limited to the elect of God. We ought to pray that this man, and that man, and every man, may be saved, and thus include the whole human race, because we cannot yet distinguish the elect from the reprobate; and yet, while we desire the coming of the kingdom of God, we likewise pray that God may destroy his enemies.

There is only this difference between the two cases, that we pray for the salvation of all whom we know to have been created after the image of God, and who have the same nature with ourselves; and we leave to the judgment of God those whom he knows to be reprobate. But in the prayer which is here related there was some special reason, which ought not to be produced as an example; for Christ does not now pray from the mere impulse of faith and of love towards men, but, entering into the heavenly sanctuary, he places before his eyes the secret judgments of the Father, which are concealed from us, so long as we walk by faith.

Besides, we learn from these words, that God chooses out of the world those whom he thinks fit to choose to be heirs of life, and that this distinction is not made according to the merit of men, but depends on his mere good-pleasure. For those who think that the cause of election is in men must begin with faith. Now, Christ expressly declares that they who are given to him belong to the Father; and it is certain that they are given so as to believe, and that faith flows from this act of giving. If the origin of faith is this act of giving, and if election comes before it in order and time, what remains but that we acknowledge that those whom God wishes to be saved out of the world are elected by free grace? Now since Christ prays for the elect only, it is necessary for us to believe the doctrine of election, if we wish that he should plead with the Father for our salvation. A grievous injury, therefore, is inflicted on believers by those persons who endeavor to blot out the knowledgeof election from the hearts of believers, because they deprive them of the pleading and intercession of the Son of God. 116 These words serve also to expose the stupidity of those who, under the pretence of election, give themselves up to the indolence, whereas it ought rather to arouse us to earnestness in prayer, as Christ teaches us by his example.

TSK: Joh 17:9 - -- pray for : Joh 14:16, Joh 16:26, Joh 16:27; Luk 22:32, Luk 8:34; Heb 7:25, Heb 9:24; 1Jo 2:1, 1Jo 2:2, 1Jo 5:19; Rev 12:9, Rev 13:8, Rev 20:15

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Barnes: Joh 17:9-10 - -- I pray for them - In view of their dangers and trials, he sought the protection and blessing of God on them. His prayer was always answered. ...

I pray for them - In view of their dangers and trials, he sought the protection and blessing of God on them. His prayer was always answered.

Not for the world - The term world here, as elsewhere, refers to wicked, rebellious, vicious men. The meaning of this expression here seems to be this: Jesus is praying for his disciples. As a reason why God should bless them, he says that they were not of the world; that they had been taken out of the world; that they belonged unto God. The petition was not offered for wicked, perverse, rebellious men, but for those who were the friends of God and were disposed to receive his favors. This passage, then, settles nothing about the question whether Christ prayed for sinners. He then prayed for his disciples, who were not those who hated him and disregarded his favors. He afterward extended the prayer for all who should become Christians, Joh 17:20. When on the cross he prayed for his crucifiers and murderers, Luk 23:34.

For they are thine - This is urged as a reason why God should protect and guide them. His honor was concerned in keeping them; and we may always "fill our mouths with"such "arguments"when we come before God, and plead that his honor will be advanced by keeping us from evil, and granting us all needful grace.

I am glorified in them - I am honored by their preaching and lives. The sense of this passage is, "Those who are my disciples are thine. That which promotes my honor will also promote thine. I pray, therefore, that they may have needful grace to honor my gospel, and to proclaim it among men."

Poole: Joh 17:9 - -- The world seemeth here to signify all mankind, for whom Christ in this place doth not pray; though some interpret it of reprobates, others of unbelie...

The world seemeth here to signify all mankind, for whom Christ in this place doth not pray; though some interpret it of reprobates, others of unbelievers. Christ afterward prays for the world, Joh 17:20 ; that is, for such who, though they at present were unbelievers, yet should be brought to believe by the apostles’ ministry. But to teach us to distinguish in our prayer, our Saviour here distinguishes, and prays for some things for his chosen ones, which he doth not pray for on the behalf of others: these he describes to be such as his Father (whose they were) had given him, either by an eternal donation, or by working faith in them.

Haydock: Joh 17:9 - -- I pray for them, I pray not for the world. That is, now in this prayer, when I desire special graces and assistances for them, to discharge their du...

I pray for them, I pray not for the world. That is, now in this prayer, when I desire special graces and assistances for them, to discharge their duty, as my apostles; yet we must take notice, that (ver. 20.) Christ prays for all those, who should believe in him. He also prayed (Luke xxiii. 34.) for all, even for those that crucified him, Father, forgive the, for they know not what they do. (Witham) ---

The prayer I now offer up to thee, O my Father, is all in behalf of my disciples, it is not for the world. I pray not now for the incredulous Jews, nor for such of the Gentiles as shall afterwards believe in me; for them I will pray at another time. At present I speak to thee for my apostles only: they call for my first care, because they are thine, and thou has given them to me. (Calmet) ---

Jesus Christ prayed with an absolute and an efficacious prayer, for all those, for whom his prayer was to be heard: he begged for them, whatever his Father had predestined to give them; but he asked for nothing, that his Father had predestined not to give them.

Gill: Joh 17:9 - -- I pray for them,.... This is to be understood of Christ, not as God; for as such he is the object of prayer; nor need he pray to any other; nor is the...

I pray for them,.... This is to be understood of Christ, not as God; for as such he is the object of prayer; nor need he pray to any other; nor is there any superior to him under that consideration to pray unto; but as man and Mediator: nor is his praying any argument against his deity; nor proof of inferiority to his Father with respect to his divine nature; since it is not in that, but in his human, nature, that he prayed; though this may be ascribed to his whole person as Godman; hence he had the greatest qualifications and abilities for this work, and his prayers were always heard: praying, as attributed to Christ, must be restrained to his state of humiliation; prayer is never spoken of Christ but whilst he was here on earth; his intercession in heaven is never expressed by prayer; and the saints when they come thither, will have done praying, Christ whilst on earth, was an excellent pattern of prayer; of private and solitary prayer; of social prayer; for and with his disciples; of frequent and fervent prayer; of submission to the will of God in prayer; and of praying even for enemies: the persons he is here said to pray for are his apostles; which shows their danger and their wants, his care over them, and concern for them, and his love unto them:

I pray not for the world; the inhabitants of it, the carnal unbelieving part of the world, which lie in sin, and will be condemned; as he died not for them, so he prayed not for them; for whom he is the propitiation, he is an advocate; and for whom he died, he makes intercession; and for no other in a spiritual saving way:

but for them which thou hast given me; out of the world, as distinct from them, to be saved with an everlasting salvation by him; and to be preserved safe to his kingdom and glory; for these he prays, for the conversion of them, the application of pardon to them, their final perseverance and eternal glory:

for they are thine; not merely by creation, and as the care of his providence, but by eternal election, and special grace in calling; which is a reason why Christ prayed for them, and an argument why the Father should, and would regard his prayers.

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Commentary -- Verse Notes / Footnotes

NET Notes: Joh 17:9 Or “because they are yours.”

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Commentary -- Verse Range Notes

TSK Synopsis: Joh 17:1-26 - --1 Christ prays to his Father.

Combined Bible: Joh 17:6-12 - --of the Gospel of John    CHAPTER 58    Christ Interceding (Continued)    John 17:6-12    The following ...

Maclaren: Joh 17:1-19 - --The Intercessor These words spake Jesus, and lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify Thy Son, that Thy Son also may...

MHCC: Joh 17:6-10 - --Christ prays for those that are his. Thou gavest them me, as sheep to the shepherd, to be kept; as a patient to the physician, to be cured; as childre...

Matthew Henry: Joh 17:6-10 - -- Christ, having prayed for himself, comes next to pray for those that are his, and he knew them by name, though he did not here name them. Now observ...

Barclay: Joh 17:9-19 - --Here is a passage close-packed with truths so great that we can grasp only fragments of them. First of all, it tells us something about the disciple ...

Barclay: Joh 17:9-19 - --The great interest of this passage is that it tells us of the things for which Jesus prayed for his disciples. (i) The first essential is to note that...

Constable: Joh 13:1--17:26 - --III. Jesus' private ministry chs. 13--17 The Synoptics integrate Jesus' ministry to the masses and His training ...

Constable: Joh 17:1-26 - --C. Jesus' high priestly prayer ch. 17 This part of Jesus' private ministry has many connections with the...

Constable: Joh 17:6-19 - --2. Jesus' requests for the Eleven 17:6-19 Jesus' glorification depended on the well-being of tho...

Constable: Joh 17:6-11 - --The bases for these requests 17:6-11a 17:6 Jesus viewed these disciples as those whom God had given to Him out of the world (cf. 6:37; 15:19), not as ...

College: Joh 17:1-26 - --JOHN 17 5. Jesus' Prayer (17:1-26) This chapter is often known as Jesus' " high priestly" prayer in which Jesus assumes a mediator role for his disc...

McGarvey: Joh 17:1-26 - -- CXXII. THE LORD'S PRAYER. (Jerusalem. Thursday night.) dJOHN XVII.    d1 These things spake Jesus; and lifting up his eyes to heaven ...

Lapide: Joh 17:1-23 - --1-25 CHAPTER 17 Ver. 1.— hese words spake Jesus, and lifted up His eyes to heaven and said, Father, the hour is come: glorify Thy Son, that Thy So...

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Critics Ask: Joh 17:9 JOHN 17:9 —Did Jesus ever pray for unbelievers? PROBLEM: Jesus said here, “I pray for them [the disciples]. I do not pray for the world.” B...

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Introduction / Outline

Robertson: John (Book Introduction) THE Fourth Gospel By Way of Introduction Greatest of Books The test of time has given the palm to the Fourth Gospel over all the books of the wor...

JFB: John (Book Introduction) THE author of the Fourth Gospel was the younger of the two sons of Zebedee, a fisherman on the Sea of Galilee, who resided at Bethsaida, where were bo...

JFB: John (Outline) THE WORD MADE FLESH. (Joh 1:1-14) A SAYING OF THE BAPTIST CONFIRMATORY OF THIS. (Joh 1:15) SAME SUBJECT CONTINUED. (Joh 1:16-18) THE BAPTIST'S TESTIM...

TSK: John (Book Introduction) John, who, according to the unanimous testimony of the ancient fathers and ecclesiastical writers, was the author of this Gospel, was the son of Zebed...

TSK: John 17 (Chapter Introduction) Overview Joh 17:1, Christ prays to his Father.

Poole: John 17 (Chapter Introduction) CHAPTER 17

MHCC: John (Book Introduction) The apostle and evangelist, John, seems to have been the youngest of the twelve. He was especially favoured with our Lord's regard and confidence, so ...

MHCC: John 17 (Chapter Introduction) (Joh 17:1-5) Christ's prayer for himself. (Joh 17:6-10) His prayer for his disciples. (v. 11-26) His prayer.

Matthew Henry: John (Book Introduction) An Exposition, with Practical Observations, of The Gospel According to St. John It is not material to enquire when and where this gospel was written; ...

Matthew Henry: John 17 (Chapter Introduction) This chapter is a prayer, it is the Lord's prayer, the Lord Christ's prayer. There was one Lord's prayer which he taught us to pray, and did not pr...

Barclay: John (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO SAINT JOHN The Gospel Of The EagleEye For many Christian people the Gospel according to St. John is the mos...

Barclay: John 17 (Chapter Introduction) The Glory Of The Cross (Joh_17:1-5) The Glory Of The Cross (Joh_17:1-5 Continued) Eternal Life (Joh_17:1-5 Continued) The Work Of Jesus (Joh_17...

Constable: John (Book Introduction) Introduction Writer The writer of this Gospel did not identify himself as such in the ...

Constable: John (Outline) Outline I. Prologue 1:1-18 A. The preincarnate Word 1:1-5 B. The witness...

Constable: John John Bibliography Allen, Ronald B. "Affirming Right-of-Way on Ancient Paths." Bibliotheca Sacra 153:609 (Januar...

Haydock: John (Book Introduction) THE HOLY GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST, ACCORDING TO ST. JOHN. INTRODUCTION St. John, the evangelist, a native of Bathsaida, in Galilee, was the son ...

Gill: John (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO JOHN The author of this Gospel is John, the son of Zebedee and Salome, the brother of James the greater; he outlived the rest of th...

College: John (Book Introduction) PREFACE INTRODUCTION Even the casual reader of the New Testament will notice that the first three accounts of Jesus' life are generally similar in t...

College: John (Outline) OUTLINE A good outline is more than half the battle in one's understanding and remembering the contents of any book. There is more than one way to bre...

Lapide: John (Book Introduction) NOTICE TO THE READER. Gospel of John Intro ——o—— AS it has been found impossible to compress the Translation of the Commentary upon S. John...

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