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Text -- John 8:19 (NET)

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8:19 Then they began asking him, “Who is your father?” Jesus answered, “You do not know either me or my Father. If you knew me you would know my Father too.”
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Robertson: Joh 8:19 - -- Where is thy Father? ( pou estin ho patēr sou ). "The testimony of an unseen and unheard witness would not satisfy them"(Vincent). Bernard understa...

Where is thy Father? ( pou estin ho patēr sou ).

"The testimony of an unseen and unheard witness would not satisfy them"(Vincent). Bernard understands the Pharisees to see that Jesus claims God the Father as his second witness and so ask "where,"not "who"he is. Augustine has it: Patrem Christi carnaliter acceperunt , Christ’ s human father, as if the Pharisees were "misled perhaps by the Lord’ s use of anthrōpon (Joh 8:17)"(Dods). Cyril even took it to be a coarse allusion to the birth of Jesus as a bastard according to the Talmud. Perhaps the Pharisees used the question with double entendre , even with all three ideas dancing in their hostile minds.

Robertson: Joh 8:19 - -- Ye would know my Father also ( kai ton patera mou an ēideite ). Conclusion of second-class condition determined as unfulfilled with an and second...

Ye would know my Father also ( kai ton patera mou an ēideite ).

Conclusion of second-class condition determined as unfulfilled with an and second perfect active of oida used as imperfect in both condition and conclusion. See this same point made to Philip in Joh 14:9. In Joh 14:7 Jesus will use ginōskō in the condition and oida in the conclusion. The ignorance of the Pharisees about Jesus proves it and is due to their ignorance of the Father. See this point more fully stated in Joh 5:36-38 when Jesus had his previous controversy in Jerusalem. In Joh 7:28 Jesus said that they knew his home in Nazareth, but he denied then that they knew the Father who sent him. Jesus will again on this occasion (Joh 8:55) deny their knowledge of the Father. Later he will deny their knowledge of the Father and of the Son (Joh 16:3). The Pharisees are silenced for the moment.

Vincent: Joh 8:19 - -- Where The testimony of an unseen and unheard witness would not satisfy them.

Where

The testimony of an unseen and unheard witness would not satisfy them.

Wesley: Joh 8:19 - -- Showing the perverseness of their question; and teaching that they ought first to know the Son, if they would know the Father.

Showing the perverseness of their question; and teaching that they ought first to know the Son, if they would know the Father.

Wesley: Joh 8:19 - -- he shows, Joh 8:23. Meantime he plainly intimates that the Father and he were distinct persons, as they were two witnesses; and yet one in essence, as...

he shows, Joh 8:23. Meantime he plainly intimates that the Father and he were distinct persons, as they were two witnesses; and yet one in essence, as the knowledge of him includes the knowledge of the Father.

JFB: Joh 8:13-19 - -- How does He meet this specious cavil? Not by disputing the wholesome human maxim that "self-praise is no praise," but by affirming that He was an exce...

How does He meet this specious cavil? Not by disputing the wholesome human maxim that "self-praise is no praise," but by affirming that He was an exception to the rule, or rather, that it had no application to Him.

Clarke: Joh 8:19 - -- Ye neither know me, etc. - Ye know neither the Messiah, nor the God that sent him

Ye neither know me, etc. - Ye know neither the Messiah, nor the God that sent him

Clarke: Joh 8:19 - -- If ye had known me - If ye had received my teaching, ye would have got such an acquaintance with the nature and attributes of God as ye never could ...

If ye had known me - If ye had received my teaching, ye would have got such an acquaintance with the nature and attributes of God as ye never could have had, and never can have any other way. That is a true saying, No man hath seen God at any time: the only begotten Son, who lay an the bosom of the Father. he hath Declared him. The nature and perfections of God never can be properly known, but in the light of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. It is worthy of remark that, in all this discourse, our blessed Lord ever speaks of the Father and himself as two distinct persons. Therefore, the Father is not the Son, nor the Son the Father, as some persons vainly imagine; though it is plain enough that the completest unity and equality subsists between them.

Calvin: Joh 8:19 - -- 19.Where is thy father ? There can be no doubt whatever, that it was in mockery that they inquired about his Father For not only do they, with thei...

19.Where is thy father ? There can be no doubt whatever, that it was in mockery that they inquired about his Father For not only do they, with their wonted pride, treat contemptuously what he had said about the Father, but they likewise ridicule him for talking loftily about his Father, as if he had drawn his birth from heaven. By these words, therefore, they mean that they do not value so highly Christ’s Father, as to ascribe any thing to the Son on his account. And the reason why there are so many in the present day who, with daring presumption, despise Christ, is, that few consider that God has sent him.

You neither know me nor my Father He does not deign to give them a direct reply, but in a few words reproaches them with the ignorance in which they flattered themselves. They inquired about the Father; and yet when they had the Son before their eyes, seeing, they did not see, (Mat 13:13.) It was therefore a just punishment of their pride and wicked ingratitude, that they who despised the Son of God, who had been familiarly offered to them, never approached to the Father For how shall any mortal man ascend to the height of God, unless he be raised on high by the hand of his Son? God in Christ condescended to the mean condition of men, so as to stretch out his hand; and do not those who reject God, when he thus approaches to them, deserve to be excluded from heaven?

Let us know that the same thing is spoken to us all; for whoever aspires to know God, and does not begin with Christ, must wander — as it were — in a labyrinth; for it is not without good reason that Christ is called the image of the Father, as has been already said. Again, as all who, leaving Christ, attempt to rise to heaven, after the manner of the giants, 219 are destitute of all right knowledge of God, so every man who shall direct his mind and all his senses to Christ, will be led straight to the Father. For on good grounds does God declare that,

by the mirror of the Gospel, we clearly behold God in the person of Christ,
(2Co 3:18.)

And certainly it is an astonishing reward of the obedience of faith, that whosoever humbles himself before the Lord Jesus, 220 penetrates above all the heavens, even to those mysteries which the angels behold and adore.

TSK: Joh 8:19 - -- Ye neither : Joh 8:54, Joh 8:55, Joh 1:10, Joh 7:28, Joh 10:14, Joh 10:15, Joh 15:21, Joh 16:3; Jer 22:16, Jer 24:7; 1Co 15:34; Gal 4:9; Col 1:10; 1Jo...

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Commentary -- Word/Phrase Notes (per Verse)

Barnes: Joh 8:19 - -- Where is thy Father? - This question was asked, doubtless, in derision. Jesus had often given them to understand that by his Father he meant Go...

Where is thy Father? - This question was asked, doubtless, in derision. Jesus had often given them to understand that by his Father he meant God, Joh 5:6; They professed to be ignorant of this, and probably looked round in contempt for his Father, that he might adduce him as a witness in the case.

If ye had known me ... - If you had listened to my instructions, and had received me as the Messiah, you would also, at the same time, have been acquainted with God. We may here observe,

1.    The manner in which Jesus answered them. He gave no heed to their cavil; he was not irritated by their contempt; he preserved his dignity, and gave them an answer worthy of the Son of God.

2.    We should meet the cavils and sneers of sinners in the same manner. We should not render railing for railing, but "in meekness instruct those that oppose themselves, if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth,"2Ti 2:25.

3.    The way to know God is to know Jesus Christ. "No man hath seen God at any time. The only-begotten Son which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him,"Joh 1:18. No sinner can have just views of God but in Jesus Christ, 2Co 4:6.

Poole: Joh 8:19 - -- Thou talkest much of thy Father, where is he? We know no father which thou hast but the carpenter, Joseph; we do not look upon him as so credible a ...

Thou talkest much of thy Father, where is he? We know no father which thou hast but the carpenter, Joseph; we do not look upon him as so credible a witness in the case, as to take his testimony in such a matter as this is. Christ tells them, that the reason why they did not know the Father, was because they did not know and acknowledge, receive and believe him; for if they had received and believed him, they would not then have been at such a loss to have known where his Father was, or who he was. The eternal Father is not to be known but in, and by, and through the Son.

Haydock: Joh 8:19 - -- Where is thy Father? They knew well enough by other discourses, that he had called and declared God to be his Father; but they had a mind to make hi...

Where is thy Father? They knew well enough by other discourses, that he had called and declared God to be his Father; but they had a mind to make him own it again, that they might accuse him as guilty of blasphemy. ---

Neither me do you know, nor my Father: you will not own me to have been always his Son, nor him to have been always my Father, but did you know me to be his Son, always proceeding from him, you would know my Father also, and know him as my Father from all eternity. (Witham) ---

As in common conversation we often say, "when you have seen one, you have seen the other;" when two persons or things seem perfectly alike as to outward appearances, so here Christ says, If you did know me, you would know my Father also: not that the Father is the Son, or the Son the Father, but because the Father is like the Son. (St. Augustine) ---

Here might the Arians, and all who maintain that Christ is a mere creature, blush; for if he were a creature, how can any one who knows him likewise know God? Therefore is Christ consubstantial with the Father, for he who know the Son, knows the Father also. (Theophylactus)

Gill: Joh 8:19 - -- Then said they unto him, where is thy Father?.... The Persic version adds, "show him unto us": produce this witness boasted of, let us see him; this ...

Then said they unto him, where is thy Father?.... The Persic version adds, "show him unto us": produce this witness boasted of, let us see him; this they said in a sneering, taunting, and insulting manner; where is thy Father? what! he is in Galilee; fetch him from thence; it is Joseph the carpenter you mean; a goodly witness indeed!

Jesus answered, ye neither know me nor my Father; if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also; they did not know the divine original of Christ, that he was the Son of God, and that God was his Father; they greatly boasted of their knowledge of God, but they knew him not; their ignorance of Christ showed it: the knowledge of both go together, and which is life eternal; nor can any truly know the one, without the other: and where the one is known, the other will be also; Christ is the brightness of his Father's glory, and the express image of his person: so that he that has seen the one, must know the other; and indeed, no one can know the Father, but he to whom the Son reveals him: this was a severe mortification to these men of knowledge.

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Commentary -- Verse Notes / Footnotes

NET Notes: Joh 8:19 If you knew me you would know my Father too. Jesus’ reply is based on his identity with the Father (see also John 1:18; 14:9).

Geneva Bible: Joh 8:19 ( 6 ) Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Fat...

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Commentary -- Verse Range Notes

TSK Synopsis: Joh 8:1-59 - --1 Christ delivers the woman taken in adultery.12 He declares himself the light of the world, and justifies his doctrine;31 promises freedom to those w...

Combined Bible: Joh 8:12-32 - --of the Gospel of John    CHAPTER 29    Christ, the Light of the World    John 8:12-32    The following ...

MHCC: Joh 8:17-20 - --If we knew Christ better, we should know the Father better. Those become vain in their imaginations concerning God, who will not learn of Christ. Thos...

Matthew Henry: Joh 8:12-20 - -- The rest of the chapter is taken up with debates between Christ and contradicting sinners, who cavilled at the most gracious words that proceeded ou...

Barclay: Joh 8:12-20 - --The scene of this argument with the Jewish authorities was in the Temple treasury, which was in the Court of the Women. The first Temple court was t...

Barclay: Joh 8:12-20 - --Jesus said: "He who follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life." The light of life means two things. The Greek can mean...

Barclay: Joh 8:12-20 - --When Jesus made his claim to be the Light of the World the scribes and Pharisees reacted with hostility. That claim would sound even more astonishing...

Constable: Joh 1:19--13:1 - --II. Jesus' public ministry 1:19--12:50 The first part of the body of John's Gospel records Jesus' public ministr...

Constable: Joh 7:10--11:1 - --H. Jesus' third visit to Jerusalem 7:10-10:42 This section of the text describes Jesus' teaching in Jeru...

Constable: Joh 8:12-59 - --5. The light of the world discourse 8:12-59 Following Jesus' claim to be the water of life (7:37...

Constable: Joh 8:12-20 - --Jesus' testimony about Himself 8:12-20 8:12 The context of the events in this paragraph continues to be the temple during the feast of Tabernacles (v....

College: Joh 8:1-59 - --JOHN 8 Textual Parenthesis: The Woman Taken in Adultery (7:53-8:11) 53 Then each went to his own home. 1 But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. 2 A...

McGarvey: Joh 8:12-59 - -- LXXX. MESSIANIC CLAIMS MET BY ATTEMPT TO STONE JESUS. (Jerusalem. October, A. D. 29.) dJOHN VIII. 12-59.    d12 Again therefore Jesus...

Lapide: Joh 8:1-37 - --1-59 CHAPTER 8 Ver. 1.— But Jesus went unto the Mount of Olives. On the last day of the Feast Jesus had taught in the temple, and confuted the Ph...

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Introduction / Outline

Robertson: John (Book Introduction) THE Fourth Gospel By Way of Introduction Greatest of Books The test of time has given the palm to the Fourth Gospel over all the books of the wor...

JFB: John (Book Introduction) THE author of the Fourth Gospel was the younger of the two sons of Zebedee, a fisherman on the Sea of Galilee, who resided at Bethsaida, where were bo...

JFB: John (Outline) THE WORD MADE FLESH. (Joh 1:1-14) A SAYING OF THE BAPTIST CONFIRMATORY OF THIS. (Joh 1:15) SAME SUBJECT CONTINUED. (Joh 1:16-18) THE BAPTIST'S TESTIM...

TSK: John (Book Introduction) John, who, according to the unanimous testimony of the ancient fathers and ecclesiastical writers, was the author of this Gospel, was the son of Zebed...

TSK: John 8 (Chapter Introduction) Overview Joh 8:1, Christ delivers the woman taken in adultery; Joh 8:12, He declares himself the light of the world, and justifies his doctrine; J...

Poole: John 8 (Chapter Introduction) CHAPTER 8

MHCC: John (Book Introduction) The apostle and evangelist, John, seems to have been the youngest of the twelve. He was especially favoured with our Lord's regard and confidence, so ...

MHCC: John 8 (Chapter Introduction) (Joh 8:1-11) The Pharisees and the adulteress. (v. 12-59) Christ's discourse with the Pharisees.

Matthew Henry: John (Book Introduction) An Exposition, with Practical Observations, of The Gospel According to St. John It is not material to enquire when and where this gospel was written; ...

Matthew Henry: John 8 (Chapter Introduction) In this chapter we have, I. Christ's evading the snare which the Jews laid for him, in bringing to him a woman taken in adultery (Joh 8:1-11). II...

Barclay: John (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO SAINT JOHN The Gospel Of The EagleEye For many Christian people the Gospel according to St. John is the mos...

Barclay: John 8 (Chapter Introduction) The Light Men Failed To Recognize (Joh_8:12-20) The Light Men Failed To Recognize (Joh_8:12-20 Continued) The Light Men Failed To Recognize (Joh_...

Constable: John (Book Introduction) Introduction Writer The writer of this Gospel did not identify himself as such in the ...

Constable: John (Outline) Outline I. Prologue 1:1-18 A. The preincarnate Word 1:1-5 B. The witness...

Constable: John John Bibliography Allen, Ronald B. "Affirming Right-of-Way on Ancient Paths." Bibliotheca Sacra 153:609 (Januar...

Haydock: John (Book Introduction) THE HOLY GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST, ACCORDING TO ST. JOHN. INTRODUCTION St. John, the evangelist, a native of Bathsaida, in Galilee, was the son ...

Gill: John (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO JOHN The author of this Gospel is John, the son of Zebedee and Salome, the brother of James the greater; he outlived the rest of th...

College: John (Book Introduction) PREFACE INTRODUCTION Even the casual reader of the New Testament will notice that the first three accounts of Jesus' life are generally similar in t...

College: John (Outline) OUTLINE A good outline is more than half the battle in one's understanding and remembering the contents of any book. There is more than one way to bre...

Lapide: John (Book Introduction) NOTICE TO THE READER. Gospel of John Intro ——o—— AS it has been found impossible to compress the Translation of the Commentary upon S. John...

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