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Text -- John 8:23 (NET)

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8:23 Jesus replied, “You people are from below; I am from above. You people are from this world; I am not from this world.
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Robertson: Joh 8:23 - -- Ye are from beneath ( humeis ek tōn katō ). This language, peculiar to John, could take up the idea in Josephus that these rabbis came from Gehen...

Ye are from beneath ( humeis ek tōn katō ).

This language, peculiar to John, could take up the idea in Josephus that these rabbis came from Gehenna whence they will go as children of the devil (Joh 8:44), but the use of ek tou kosmou toutou ("of this world"in origin) as parallel to what we have here seems to prove that the contrast between katō and anō here is between the earthly (sensual) and the heavenly as in Jam 3:15-17. See also Col 3:1. This is the only use of katō in John (except Joh 8:6). These proud rabbis had their origin in this world of darkness (Joh 1:9) with all its limitations.

Robertson: Joh 8:23 - -- I am from above ( egō ek tōn anō eimi ). The contrast is complete in origin and character, already stated in Joh 3:31, and calculated to intens...

I am from above ( egō ek tōn anō eimi ).

The contrast is complete in origin and character, already stated in Joh 3:31, and calculated to intensify their anger.

Vincent: Joh 8:23 - -- Ye are from beneath ( ἐκ τῶν κάτω ἐστὲ ) A phrase peculiar to John and to his Gospel. Jesus states the radical antagonism ...

Ye are from beneath ( ἐκ τῶν κάτω ἐστὲ )

A phrase peculiar to John and to his Gospel. Jesus states the radical antagonism between His opposers and Himself, as based upon difference of origin and nature . They spring from the lower, sensual, earthly economy; He from the heavenly. Compare Jam 3:15 sqq.

Vincent: Joh 8:23 - -- From above ( ἐκ τῶν ἄνω ) Also peculiar to John's Gospel. Compare Col 3:1. On the phrase to be of (εἶναι ἐκ ) ...

From above ( ἐκ τῶν ἄνω )

Also peculiar to John's Gospel. Compare Col 3:1. On the phrase to be of (εἶναι ἐκ ) see on Joh 1:46.

Vincent: Joh 8:23 - -- Ye are of this world ( ἐκ τοῦ κόσμου τούτου ἐστὲ ) Peculiar to John, and occurring in the First Epistle. On κο...

Ye are of this world ( ἐκ τοῦ κόσμου τούτου ἐστὲ )

Peculiar to John, and occurring in the First Epistle. On κόσμου , world , see on Joh 1:9. Ye are of this earthly order or economy .

Wesley: Joh 8:23 - -- Again he passes over their interruption, and proves what he advanced, Joh 8:21.

Again he passes over their interruption, and proves what he advanced, Joh 8:21.

Wesley: Joh 8:23 - -- From the earth.

From the earth.

Wesley: Joh 8:23 - -- Here he directly shows whence he came, even from heaven, and whither he goes.

Here he directly shows whence he came, even from heaven, and whither he goes.

JFB: Joh 8:21-25 - -- (See on Joh 7:33).

(See on Joh 7:33).

JFB: Joh 8:23 - -- Contrasting Himself, not as in Joh 3:31, simply with earthborn messengers of God, but with men sprung from and breathing an opposite element from His,...

Contrasting Himself, not as in Joh 3:31, simply with earthborn messengers of God, but with men sprung from and breathing an opposite element from His, which rendered it impossible that He and they should have any present fellowship, or dwell eternally together. (Again see on Joh 7:33; also see on Joh 8:44).

Clarke: Joh 8:23 - -- Ye are from beneath - Ye are capable of murder, and of self-murder too, because ye have nothing of God in you. Ye are altogether earthly, sensual, a...

Ye are from beneath - Ye are capable of murder, and of self-murder too, because ye have nothing of God in you. Ye are altogether earthly, sensual, and devilish. They verified this character in murdering the Lord Jesus; and many of them afterwards, to escape famine, etc., put an end to their own lives.

Calvin: Joh 8:23 - -- 23.You are from beneath, I am from above As they did not deserve that he should teach them, he wished only to strike them with reproofs conveyed in f...

23.You are from beneath, I am from above As they did not deserve that he should teach them, he wished only to strike them with reproofs conveyed in few words, as in this passage he declares that they do not receive his doctrine, because they have an utter dislike of the kingdom of God. Under the words, world and beneath, he includes all that men naturally possess, and thus points out the disagreement which exists between his Gospel and the ingenuity and sagacity of the human mind; for the Gospel is heavenly wisdom, but our mind grovels on the earth. No man, therefore, will ever be qualified to become a disciple of Christ, till Christ has formed him by his Spirit. And hence it arises that faith is so seldom found in the world, because all mankind are naturally opposed and averse to Christ, except those whom he elevates by the special grace of his Holy Spirit.

TSK: Joh 8:23 - -- Ye are from : Joh 1:14, Joh 3:13, Joh 3:31; Psa 17:4; Rom 8:7, Rom 8:8; 1Co 15:47, 1Co 15:48; Phi 3:19-21; Jam 3:15-17; 1Jo 2:15, 1Jo 2:16 ye are of :...

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Barnes: Joh 8:23 - -- Ye are from beneath - The expression from bequeath, here, is opposed to the phrase from above. It means, You are of the earth, or are influence...

Ye are from beneath - The expression from bequeath, here, is opposed to the phrase from above. It means, You are of the earth, or are influenced by earthly, sensual, and corrupt passions. You are governed by the lowest and vilest views and feelings, such as are opposed to heaven, and such as have their origin in earth or in hell.

I am from above - From heaven. My views are heavenly, and my words should have been so interpreted.

Ye are of this world - You think and act like the corrupt men of this world.

I am not of this world - My views are above these earthly and corrupt notions. The meaning of the verse is: "Your reference to self-murder shows that you are earthly and corrupt in your views. You are governed by the mad passions of men, and can think only of these."We see here how difficult it is to excite wicked men to the contemplation of heavenly things. They interpret all things in a low and corrupt sense, and suppose all others to be governed as they are themselves.

Poole: Joh 8:23 - -- Ye are not only of an earthly extraction, creatures of the earth, not descended from heaven, as I am; but also of earthly spirits and principles; yo...

Ye are not only of an earthly extraction, creatures of the earth, not descended from heaven, as I am; but also of earthly spirits and principles; you savour nothing that is sublime and spiritual, and therefore you do not understand me. I tell you,

I am not of this world my original is not from it, nor am I to determine my being in it. I shall die, but I shall rise again from the dead, and ascend into heaven, where you cannot come. Still our Saviour asserts his Divine nature; and the stress of all, he saith, lieth there; their unbelief of which was the cause of all their disputings and errors. He had given them the greatest evidence of it imaginable in the works which he had done in their sight, which were not only above the power of nature, but such as God had never authorized, or enabled any creature to do; yet they, being destitute of supernatural grace, did not believe in him. And they were inexcusable, because that grace was denied them for their wilful corruption and wickedness, which they might have avoided by the use of that common grace which was not denied them.

Haydock: Joh 8:23 - -- I am not of this world: he speaks of his divine person, as the words evidently shew. (Witham)

I am not of this world: he speaks of his divine person, as the words evidently shew. (Witham)

Gill: Joh 8:23 - -- And he said unto them,.... Upon this wicked remark of theirs, and query on his words: ye are from beneath: not only of the earth, earthy, and so sp...

And he said unto them,.... Upon this wicked remark of theirs, and query on his words:

ye are from beneath: not only of the earth, earthy, and so spoke of the earth, and as carnal men; but even of hell, they were the children of the devil; they breathed his Spirit, spoke his language, and did his lusts, as in Joh 8:44.

I am from above; not with respect to his human body, which he did not bring with him from heaven, that was formed below, in the Virgin's womb; otherwise he would not have been the seed of the woman, the son of Abraham, David, and Mary: but either with regard to his divine nature and person, he was of God, the Son of God, the only begotten of the Father, who then lay in his bosom, and was in heaven above at that time; or to his mission, which was from heaven.

Ye are of this world; they were, as they were born into the world, sinful, carnal, and corrupt; they were in it, and belonged to it, had never been chosen, or called out of it; they had their conversation according to the course of it, and conformed to its evil customs and manners; they were under the influence of the God of the world, and were taken with the sinful and sensual lasts thereof; they were men of worldly spirits; they minded earth, and earthly things, and had their portion in this world, and might be truly called the men of it.

I am not of this world; he was in it, but not of it; he was come into it to save the chief of sinners, but he did not belong to it, nor did he conform to it; for though he conversed with sinners, ate with them, and received them, being called to repentance by him; yet he was separate from them, and did not as they did: nor did he pursue the pleasures, honours, and riches of this world, being all his days a man of sorrows, and despised of men; and though Lord of all, had not where to lay his head.

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Commentary -- Verse Notes / Footnotes

NET Notes: Joh 8:23 The word “people” is supplied in English to clarify the plural Greek pronoun and verb.

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Commentary -- Verse Range Notes

TSK Synopsis: Joh 8:1-59 - --1 Christ delivers the woman taken in adultery.12 He declares himself the light of the world, and justifies his doctrine;31 promises freedom to those w...

Combined Bible: Joh 8:12-32 - --of the Gospel of John    CHAPTER 29    Christ, the Light of the World    John 8:12-32    The following ...

MHCC: Joh 8:21-29 - --Those that live in unbelief, are for ever undone, if they die in unbelief. The Jews belonged to this present evil world, but Jesus was of a heavenly a...

Matthew Henry: Joh 8:21-30 - -- Christ here gives fair warning to the careless unbelieving Jews to consider what would be the consequence of their infidelity, that they might preve...

Barclay: Joh 8:21-30 - --This is one of the passages of argument and debate so characteristic of the Fourth Gospel and so difficult to elucidate and to understand. In it vari...

Barclay: Joh 8:21-30 - --Jesus goes on to draw a series of contrasts. His opponents belong to earth, he is from heaven; they are of the world; he is not of the world. John...

Barclay: Joh 8:21-30 - --There is no verse in all the New Testament more difficult to translate than Joh 8:25. No one can really be sure what the Greek means. It could mean:...

Constable: Joh 1:19--13:1 - --II. Jesus' public ministry 1:19--12:50 The first part of the body of John's Gospel records Jesus' public ministr...

Constable: Joh 7:10--11:1 - --H. Jesus' third visit to Jerusalem 7:10-10:42 This section of the text describes Jesus' teaching in Jeru...

Constable: Joh 8:12-59 - --5. The light of the world discourse 8:12-59 Following Jesus' claim to be the water of life (7:37...

Constable: Joh 8:21-30 - --Jesus' claims about His origin 8:21-30 Jesus began to contrast Himself and His critics.310 8:21 Evidently what follows continues Jesus' teaching in th...

College: Joh 8:1-59 - --JOHN 8 Textual Parenthesis: The Woman Taken in Adultery (7:53-8:11) 53 Then each went to his own home. 1 But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. 2 A...

McGarvey: Joh 8:12-59 - -- LXXX. MESSIANIC CLAIMS MET BY ATTEMPT TO STONE JESUS. (Jerusalem. October, A. D. 29.) dJOHN VIII. 12-59.    d12 Again therefore Jesus...

Lapide: Joh 8:1-37 - --1-59 CHAPTER 8 Ver. 1.— But Jesus went unto the Mount of Olives. On the last day of the Feast Jesus had taught in the temple, and confuted the Ph...

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Introduction / Outline

Robertson: John (Book Introduction) THE Fourth Gospel By Way of Introduction Greatest of Books The test of time has given the palm to the Fourth Gospel over all the books of the wor...

JFB: John (Book Introduction) THE author of the Fourth Gospel was the younger of the two sons of Zebedee, a fisherman on the Sea of Galilee, who resided at Bethsaida, where were bo...

JFB: John (Outline) THE WORD MADE FLESH. (Joh 1:1-14) A SAYING OF THE BAPTIST CONFIRMATORY OF THIS. (Joh 1:15) SAME SUBJECT CONTINUED. (Joh 1:16-18) THE BAPTIST'S TESTIM...

TSK: John (Book Introduction) John, who, according to the unanimous testimony of the ancient fathers and ecclesiastical writers, was the author of this Gospel, was the son of Zebed...

TSK: John 8 (Chapter Introduction) Overview Joh 8:1, Christ delivers the woman taken in adultery; Joh 8:12, He declares himself the light of the world, and justifies his doctrine; J...

Poole: John 8 (Chapter Introduction) CHAPTER 8

MHCC: John (Book Introduction) The apostle and evangelist, John, seems to have been the youngest of the twelve. He was especially favoured with our Lord's regard and confidence, so ...

MHCC: John 8 (Chapter Introduction) (Joh 8:1-11) The Pharisees and the adulteress. (v. 12-59) Christ's discourse with the Pharisees.

Matthew Henry: John (Book Introduction) An Exposition, with Practical Observations, of The Gospel According to St. John It is not material to enquire when and where this gospel was written; ...

Matthew Henry: John 8 (Chapter Introduction) In this chapter we have, I. Christ's evading the snare which the Jews laid for him, in bringing to him a woman taken in adultery (Joh 8:1-11). II...

Barclay: John (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO SAINT JOHN The Gospel Of The EagleEye For many Christian people the Gospel according to St. John is the mos...

Barclay: John 8 (Chapter Introduction) The Light Men Failed To Recognize (Joh_8:12-20) The Light Men Failed To Recognize (Joh_8:12-20 Continued) The Light Men Failed To Recognize (Joh_...

Constable: John (Book Introduction) Introduction Writer The writer of this Gospel did not identify himself as such in the ...

Constable: John (Outline) Outline I. Prologue 1:1-18 A. The preincarnate Word 1:1-5 B. The witness...

Constable: John John Bibliography Allen, Ronald B. "Affirming Right-of-Way on Ancient Paths." Bibliotheca Sacra 153:609 (Januar...

Haydock: John (Book Introduction) THE HOLY GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST, ACCORDING TO ST. JOHN. INTRODUCTION St. John, the evangelist, a native of Bathsaida, in Galilee, was the son ...

Gill: John (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO JOHN The author of this Gospel is John, the son of Zebedee and Salome, the brother of James the greater; he outlived the rest of th...

College: John (Book Introduction) PREFACE INTRODUCTION Even the casual reader of the New Testament will notice that the first three accounts of Jesus' life are generally similar in t...

College: John (Outline) OUTLINE A good outline is more than half the battle in one's understanding and remembering the contents of any book. There is more than one way to bre...

Lapide: John (Book Introduction) NOTICE TO THE READER. Gospel of John Intro ——o—— AS it has been found impossible to compress the Translation of the Commentary upon S. John...

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