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Text -- John 8:41 (NET)

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8:41 You people are doing the deeds of your father.” Then they said to Jesus, “We were not born as a result of immorality! We have only one Father, God himself.”
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Dictionary Themes and Topics: Temple | Self-righteousness | Self-delusion | Satan | REDEEMER; REDEMPTION | Jesus, The Christ | JESUS CHRIST, 4C2 | HEREDITY | God | Father | CRIME; CRIMES | more
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Robertson: Joh 8:41 - -- Ye do the works of your father ( humeis poieite ta erga tou patros humōn ). Who is not Abraham and not God as Jesus plainly indicates.

Ye do the works of your father ( humeis poieite ta erga tou patros humōn ).

Who is not Abraham and not God as Jesus plainly indicates.

Robertson: Joh 8:41 - -- We were not born of fornication ( hēmeis ek porneias egennēthēmen ). First aorist passive indicative of gennaō . This they said as a proud bo...

We were not born of fornication ( hēmeis ek porneias egennēthēmen ).

First aorist passive indicative of gennaō . This they said as a proud boast. Jesus had admitted that they were physical (Deu 23:2) descendants of Abraham (Joh 8:37), but now denies that they are spiritual children of Abraham (like Paul in Rom 9:7). Porneia is from pornos (harlot) and that from pernēmi , to sell, a woman who sells her body for sexual uses. It is vaguely possible that in this stern denial the Pharisees may have an indirect fling at Jesus as the bastard son of Mary (so Talmud).

Robertson: Joh 8:41 - -- We have one Father, even God ( hena patera echomen ton theon ). No "even"in the Greek, "One Father we have, God."This in direct reply to the implicat...

We have one Father, even God ( hena patera echomen ton theon ).

No "even"in the Greek, "One Father we have, God."This in direct reply to the implication of Jesus (Joh 8:38) that God was not their spiritual Father.

Vincent: Joh 8:41 - -- Ye do Or, are doing .

Ye do

Or, are doing .

Vincent: Joh 8:41 - -- Fornication ( πορνείας ) From πέρνημι , to sell .

Fornication ( πορνείας )

From πέρνημι , to sell .

Wesley: Joh 8:41 - -- He is not named yet. But when they presumed to call God their Father, then he is expressly called the devil, Joh 8:44.

He is not named yet. But when they presumed to call God their Father, then he is expressly called the devil, Joh 8:44.

JFB: Joh 8:37-41 - -- He had said this to their face before: He now repeats it, and they do not deny it; yet are they held back, as by some marvellous spell--it was the awe...

He had said this to their face before: He now repeats it, and they do not deny it; yet are they held back, as by some marvellous spell--it was the awe which His combined dignity, courage, and benignity struck into them.

JFB: Joh 8:37-41 - -- When did ever human prophet so speak of His words? They tell us of "the word of the Lord" coming to them. But here is One who holds up "His word" as t...

When did ever human prophet so speak of His words? They tell us of "the word of the Lord" coming to them. But here is One who holds up "His word" as that which ought to find entrance and abiding room for itself in the souls of all who hear it.

JFB: Joh 8:41 - -- Meaning, as is generally allowed, that they were not an illegitimate race in point of religion, pretending only to be God's people, but were descended...

Meaning, as is generally allowed, that they were not an illegitimate race in point of religion, pretending only to be God's people, but were descended from His own chosen Abraham.

Clarke: Joh 8:41 - -- Ye do the deeds of your father - You have certainly another father than Abraham - one who has instilled his own malignant nature into you; and, as y...

Ye do the deeds of your father - You have certainly another father than Abraham - one who has instilled his own malignant nature into you; and, as ye seek to murder me for telling you the truth, ye must be the offspring of him who was a murderer from the beginning, and stood not in the truth, Joh 8:44

Clarke: Joh 8:41 - -- We be not born of fornication - We are not a mixed, spurious breed - our tribes and families have been kept distinct - we are descended from Abraham...

We be not born of fornication - We are not a mixed, spurious breed - our tribes and families have been kept distinct - we are descended from Abraham by his legal wife Sarah; and we are no idolaters

Clarke: Joh 8:41 - -- We have one Father, even God - In the spiritual sense of father and son, we are not a spurious, that is, an idolatrous race; because we acknowledge ...

We have one Father, even God - In the spiritual sense of father and son, we are not a spurious, that is, an idolatrous race; because we acknowledge none as our spiritual father, and worship none as such, but the true God. See Bishop Pearce.

Calvin: Joh 8:41 - -- 41.We were not born of fornication They claim no more for themselves than they did formerly, for it was the same thing with them to be Abraham’s ch...

41.We were not born of fornication They claim no more for themselves than they did formerly, for it was the same thing with them to be Abraham’s children and to be God’s children. But they erred grievously in this respect, that they imagined that God was bound to the whole seed of Abraham. For they reason thus: “God adopted for himself the family of Abraham; therefore, since we are Abraham’s descendants, we must be the children of God.” We now see how they thought that they had holiness from the womb, because they were sprung from a holy root. In short, they maintain that they are the family of God, because they are descended from the holy fathers. In like manner, the Papists in the present day are exceedingly vain of an uninterrupted succession from the fathers. By sorceries of this description Satan deceives them, so that they separate God from his word, the Church from faith, and the kingdom of heaven from the Spirit.

Let us know, therefore, that they who have corrupted the seed of life are at the farthest remove from being the children of God, though, according to the flesh, they are not bastards, but pretend a right to the plausible title of the Church. For let them go about the bush as much as they please, still they will never avoid the discovery that the only ground of their arrogant boasting is, “We have succeeded the holy fathers; therefore, we are the Church.” And if the reply of Christ was sufficient for confuting the Jews, it is not less sufficient now for reproving the Papists. Never indeed will hypocrites cease to employ the name of God falsely, with most wicked effrontery; but those false grounds of boasting, on which they plume themselves, will never cease to appear ridiculous in the eyes of all who shall abide by the decision of Christ.

TSK: Joh 8:41 - -- do : Joh 8:38, Joh 8:44 We be : Isa 57:3-7; Eze 23:45-47; Hos 1:2, Hos 2:2-5; Mal 2:11 we have : Exo 4:22; Deu 14:1; Isa 63:16, Isa 64:8; Jer 3:19, Je...

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Barnes: Joh 8:41 - -- The deeds of your father - See Joh 8:38. Jesus repeats the charge, and yet repeats it as if unwilling to name Satan as their father. He chose t...

The deeds of your father - See Joh 8:38. Jesus repeats the charge, and yet repeats it as if unwilling to name Satan as their father. He chose that they should infer whom he meant, rather than bring a charge so direct and repelling. When the Saviour delivered an awful or an offensive truth, he always approached the mind so that the truth might make the deepest impression.

We be not born of fornication - The people still professed not to understand him; and since Jesus had denied that they were the children of Abraham, they affected to suppose that he meant they were a mixed, spurious race; that they had no right to the covenant privileges of the Jews; that they were not worshippers of the true God. Hence, they said, We are not thus descended. We have the evidence of our genealogy. We are worshippers of the true God, descended from those who acknowledged him, and we acknowledge no other God and Father than him. To be children of fornication is an expression denoting in the Scriptures idolatry, or the worship of other gods than the true God, Isa 1:21; Isa 57:3; Heb 1:2; Heb 2:4. This they denied. They affirmed that they acknowledged no God for their Father but the true God.

Poole: Joh 8:41 - -- Ye do the deeds of your father you imitate him who is indeed your father; by whom our Saviour (as we shall hear more afterwards) meaneth the devil. T...

Ye do the deeds of your father you imitate him who is indeed your father; by whom our Saviour (as we shall hear more afterwards) meaneth the devil. This they fume at, and tell him they were not

born of fornication which is, in our English dialect, as much as, We are no bastards; but it hath another sense in this place, as appeareth by the next words.

We have one Father, even God that is, we own and worship one God, who is our Father; which makes very good interpreters think, that their meaning in those words, We are not born of fornication, is, We are no idolaters; idolatry in holy writ being very ordinarily compared to whoredom and fornication.

Haydock: Joh 8:41 - -- We are not born of fornication; we have one Father, God. These Jews perceived that Christ had hinted that they were not the true and faithful sons o...

We are not born of fornication; we have one Father, God. These Jews perceived that Christ had hinted that they were not the true and faithful sons of Abraham; and therefore they replied in this manner. But Christ answered, if God was your Father, if you were his dutiful children, you would also believe in me, and love me; for I have proceeded from him, and am come from him, his true Son: and not sent into the world by him. But you cannot hear my word, because you will not, by your own wilful obstinate blindness. (Witham)

Gill: Joh 8:41 - -- Ye do the deeds of your father,.... Not Abraham, but the devil. Then said they unto him, we be not born of fornication: meaning either literally, t...

Ye do the deeds of your father,.... Not Abraham, but the devil.

Then said they unto him, we be not born of fornication: meaning either literally, that they were not a brood of bastards, children of whoredom, illegitimately begotten in unlawful copulation, or wedlock; or figuratively, that they were not the children of idolaters, idolatry being called fornication in Scripture; but that they were the holy seed of Israel, and children of the prophets, who had retained the pure word, and the true worship of God, though in all this they might have been contradicted and refuted; to which they add,

we have one Father, even God; Israel being called by God his Son, and firstborn to them belonged the adoption, in a national sense, and of this they boasted; though few of them were the children of God by special adoption, or God their Father by regenerating grace.

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Commentary -- Verse Notes / Footnotes

NET Notes: Joh 8:41 We were not born as a result of immorality! is ironic, because Jesus’ opponents implied that it was not themselves but Jesus who had been born a...

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Commentary -- Verse Range Notes

TSK Synopsis: Joh 8:1-59 - --1 Christ delivers the woman taken in adultery.12 He declares himself the light of the world, and justifies his doctrine;31 promises freedom to those w...

Combined Bible: Joh 8:33-59 - --of the Gospel of John    CHAPTER 30    Christ, the Light of the World (Concluded)    John 8:33-59    Th...

MHCC: Joh 8:41-47 - --Satan prompts men to excesses by which they murder themselves and others, while what he puts into the mind tends to ruin men's souls. He is the great ...

Matthew Henry: Joh 8:38-47 - -- Here Christ and the Jews are still at issue; he sets himself to convince and convert them, while they still set themselves to contradict and oppose ...

Barclay: Joh 8:37-41 - --In this passage Jesus is dealing a death-blow to a claim which to the Jews was all-important. For the Jew Abraham was the greatest figure in all reli...

Barclay: Joh 8:41-45 - --Jesus had just told the Jews that by their life and conduct and by their reaction to him they had made it clear that they were no real children of Abr...

Constable: Joh 1:19--13:1 - --II. Jesus' public ministry 1:19--12:50 The first part of the body of John's Gospel records Jesus' public ministr...

Constable: Joh 7:10--11:1 - --H. Jesus' third visit to Jerusalem 7:10-10:42 This section of the text describes Jesus' teaching in Jeru...

Constable: Joh 8:12-59 - --5. The light of the world discourse 8:12-59 Following Jesus' claim to be the water of life (7:37...

Constable: Joh 8:31-47 - --The challenge to professing believers 8:31-47 Jesus next addressed those in His audience who had expressed some faith Him (v. 30). 8:31 The mark of a ...

College: Joh 8:1-59 - --JOHN 8 Textual Parenthesis: The Woman Taken in Adultery (7:53-8:11) 53 Then each went to his own home. 1 But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. 2 A...

McGarvey: Joh 8:12-59 - -- LXXX. MESSIANIC CLAIMS MET BY ATTEMPT TO STONE JESUS. (Jerusalem. October, A. D. 29.) dJOHN VIII. 12-59.    d12 Again therefore Jesus...

Lapide: Joh 8:37-59 - --Ver. 37.— I know, &c. By nature ye are Abraham's children, but in your deeds ye are degenerate. Your descent from Abraham will not therefore prof...

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Introduction / Outline

Robertson: John (Book Introduction) THE Fourth Gospel By Way of Introduction Greatest of Books The test of time has given the palm to the Fourth Gospel over all the books of the wor...

JFB: John (Book Introduction) THE author of the Fourth Gospel was the younger of the two sons of Zebedee, a fisherman on the Sea of Galilee, who resided at Bethsaida, where were bo...

JFB: John (Outline) THE WORD MADE FLESH. (Joh 1:1-14) A SAYING OF THE BAPTIST CONFIRMATORY OF THIS. (Joh 1:15) SAME SUBJECT CONTINUED. (Joh 1:16-18) THE BAPTIST'S TESTIM...

TSK: John (Book Introduction) John, who, according to the unanimous testimony of the ancient fathers and ecclesiastical writers, was the author of this Gospel, was the son of Zebed...

TSK: John 8 (Chapter Introduction) Overview Joh 8:1, Christ delivers the woman taken in adultery; Joh 8:12, He declares himself the light of the world, and justifies his doctrine; J...

Poole: John 8 (Chapter Introduction) CHAPTER 8

MHCC: John (Book Introduction) The apostle and evangelist, John, seems to have been the youngest of the twelve. He was especially favoured with our Lord's regard and confidence, so ...

MHCC: John 8 (Chapter Introduction) (Joh 8:1-11) The Pharisees and the adulteress. (v. 12-59) Christ's discourse with the Pharisees.

Matthew Henry: John (Book Introduction) An Exposition, with Practical Observations, of The Gospel According to St. John It is not material to enquire when and where this gospel was written; ...

Matthew Henry: John 8 (Chapter Introduction) In this chapter we have, I. Christ's evading the snare which the Jews laid for him, in bringing to him a woman taken in adultery (Joh 8:1-11). II...

Barclay: John (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO SAINT JOHN The Gospel Of The EagleEye For many Christian people the Gospel according to St. John is the mos...

Barclay: John 8 (Chapter Introduction) The Light Men Failed To Recognize (Joh_8:12-20) The Light Men Failed To Recognize (Joh_8:12-20 Continued) The Light Men Failed To Recognize (Joh_...

Constable: John (Book Introduction) Introduction Writer The writer of this Gospel did not identify himself as such in the ...

Constable: John (Outline) Outline I. Prologue 1:1-18 A. The preincarnate Word 1:1-5 B. The witness...

Constable: John John Bibliography Allen, Ronald B. "Affirming Right-of-Way on Ancient Paths." Bibliotheca Sacra 153:609 (Januar...

Haydock: John (Book Introduction) THE HOLY GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST, ACCORDING TO ST. JOHN. INTRODUCTION St. John, the evangelist, a native of Bathsaida, in Galilee, was the son ...

Gill: John (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO JOHN The author of this Gospel is John, the son of Zebedee and Salome, the brother of James the greater; he outlived the rest of th...

College: John (Book Introduction) PREFACE INTRODUCTION Even the casual reader of the New Testament will notice that the first three accounts of Jesus' life are generally similar in t...

College: John (Outline) OUTLINE A good outline is more than half the battle in one's understanding and remembering the contents of any book. There is more than one way to bre...

Lapide: John (Book Introduction) NOTICE TO THE READER. Gospel of John Intro ——o—— AS it has been found impossible to compress the Translation of the Commentary upon S. John...

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