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8:57 Then the Judeans replied, “You are not yet fifty years old! Have you seen Abraham?” 8:58 Jesus said to them, “I tell you the solemn truth, before Abraham came into existence, I am!” 8:59 Then they picked up stones to throw at him, but Jesus hid himself and went out from the temple area.
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 · Abraham a son of Terah; the father of Isaac; ancestor of the Jewish nation.,the son of Terah of Shem
 · Jews the people descended from Israel


Dictionary Themes and Topics: Temple | TRINITY, 1 | Self-righteousness | Persecution | PERSON OF CHRIST, 4-8 | LITERATURE, SUB-APOSTOLIC, 2 | Jesus, The Christ | JESUS CHRIST, 5 | JESUS CHRIST, 4C2 | Blindness | Abraham | more
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Robertson: Joh 8:57 - -- Thou art not yet fifty years old ( pentēkonta eti oupō echeis ). Literally, "Thou hast not yet fifty years."Not meaning that Jesus was near that ...

Thou art not yet fifty years old ( pentēkonta eti oupō echeis ).

Literally, "Thou hast not yet fifty years."Not meaning that Jesus was near that age at all. It was the crisis of completed manhood (Num 4:3) and a round number. Jesus was about thirty to thirty-three.

Robertson: Joh 8:57 - -- And hast thou seen Abraham? ( Kai Abraam heōrakas ). So A C D and B W Theta have heōrakes , both second person singular of the perfect active ind...

And hast thou seen Abraham? ( Kai Abraam heōrakas ).

So A C D and B W Theta have heōrakes , both second person singular of the perfect active indicative of horaō . But Aleph, Sin-syr., Coptic versions (accepted by Bernard) have kai Abraam heōrake sė "Has Abraam seen thee?"Either makes sense here.

Robertson: Joh 8:58 - -- Before Abraham was ( prin Abraam genesthai ). Usual idiom with prin in positive sentence with infinitive (second aorist middle of ginomai ) and th...

Before Abraham was ( prin Abraam genesthai ).

Usual idiom with prin in positive sentence with infinitive (second aorist middle of ginomai ) and the accusative of general reference, "before coming as to Abraham,""before Abraham came into existence or was born."

Robertson: Joh 8:58 - -- I am ( egō eimi ). Undoubtedly here Jesus claims eternal existence with the absolute phrase used of God. The contrast between genesthai (entrance...

I am ( egō eimi ).

Undoubtedly here Jesus claims eternal existence with the absolute phrase used of God. The contrast between genesthai (entrance into existence of Abraham) and eimi (timeless being) is complete. See the same contrast between en in Joh 1:1 and egeneto in Joh 1:14. See the contrast also in Psa 90:2 between God (ei , art) and the mountains (genēthēnai ). See the same use of eimi in Joh 6:20; Joh 9:9; Joh 8:24, Joh 8:28; Joh 18:6.

Robertson: Joh 8:59 - -- They took up stones therefore ( ēran oun lithous ). First aorist active indicative of airō , inferential use of oun . The time for argument had p...

They took up stones therefore ( ēran oun lithous ).

First aorist active indicative of airō , inferential use of oun . The time for argument had past.

Robertson: Joh 8:59 - -- To cast at him ( hina balōsin ep' auton ). Final clause with hina and the second aorist active subjunctive of ballō . Vivid picture of a mob re...

To cast at him ( hina balōsin ep' auton ).

Final clause with hina and the second aorist active subjunctive of ballō . Vivid picture of a mob ready to kill Jesus, already beginning to do so.

Robertson: Joh 8:59 - -- Hid himself ( ekrubē ). Second aorist passive indicative of kruptō . He was hidden. No Docetic vanishing, but quietly and boldly Jesus went out o...

Hid himself ( ekrubē ).

Second aorist passive indicative of kruptō . He was hidden. No Docetic vanishing, but quietly and boldly Jesus went out of the temple. His hour had not yet come. Once again three months later the Pharisees will try to kill him, but he will pass out of their hands (Joh 10:39).

Vincent: Joh 8:57 - -- Thou art not yet fifty years old ( πεντήκοντα ἔτη οὔπω ἔχεις ) Literally, thou hast not yet fifty ...

Thou art not yet fifty years old ( πεντήκοντα ἔτη οὔπω ἔχεις )

Literally, thou hast not yet fifty years . The age of completed manhood.

Vincent: Joh 8:57 - -- Hast thou seen Again misquoting the Lord's words.

Hast thou seen

Again misquoting the Lord's words.

Vincent: Joh 8:58 - -- Was, I am ( γενέσθαι, ἐγώ εἰμι ) It is important to observe the distinction between the two verbs. Abraham's life was unde...

Was, I am ( γενέσθαι, ἐγώ εἰμι )

It is important to observe the distinction between the two verbs. Abraham's life was under the conditions of time, and therefore had a temporal beginning. Hence, Abraham came into being , or was born (γενέσθαι ). Jesus' life was from and to eternity. Hence the formula for absolute , timeless existence, I am (ἐγώ εἰμι ). See on Joh 1:3; see on Joh 7:34.

Vincent: Joh 8:59 - -- Going through the midst of them, and so passed by The best texts omit.

Going through the midst of them, and so passed by

The best texts omit.

Wesley: Joh 8:57 - -- At the most. Perhaps the gravity of our Lord's countenance, together with his afflictions and labours, might make him appear older than he really was.

At the most. Perhaps the gravity of our Lord's countenance, together with his afflictions and labours, might make him appear older than he really was.

Wesley: Joh 8:57 - -- Which they justly supposed must have been, if Abraham had seen him.

Which they justly supposed must have been, if Abraham had seen him.

Wesley: Joh 8:58 - -- Even from everlasting to everlasting. This is a direct answer to the objection of the Jews, and shows how much greater he was than Abraham.

Even from everlasting to everlasting. This is a direct answer to the objection of the Jews, and shows how much greater he was than Abraham.

Wesley: Joh 8:59 - -- To stone him as a blasphemer; but Jesus concealed himself - Probably by becoming invisible; and so passed on - With the same ease as if none had been ...

To stone him as a blasphemer; but Jesus concealed himself - Probably by becoming invisible; and so passed on - With the same ease as if none had been there.

JFB: Joh 8:57-59 - -- "No inference can be drawn from this as to the age of our Lord at the time as man. Fifty years was with the Jews the completion of manhood" [ALFORD].

"No inference can be drawn from this as to the age of our Lord at the time as man. Fifty years was with the Jews the completion of manhood" [ALFORD].

JFB: Joh 8:57-59 - -- He had said Abraham saw Him, as being his peculiar privilege. They give the opposite turn to it--"Hast Thou seen Abraham?" as an honor too great for H...

He had said Abraham saw Him, as being his peculiar privilege. They give the opposite turn to it--"Hast Thou seen Abraham?" as an honor too great for Him to pretend to.

JFB: Joh 8:58 - -- The words rendered "was" and "am" are quite different. The one clause means, "Abraham was brought into being"; the other, "I exist." The statement the...

The words rendered "was" and "am" are quite different. The one clause means, "Abraham was brought into being"; the other, "I exist." The statement therefore is not that Christ came into existence before Abraham did (as Arians affirm is the meaning), but that He never came into being at all, but existed before Abraham had a being; in other words, existed before creation, or eternally (as Joh 1:1). In that sense the Jews plainly understood Him, since "then took they up stones to cast at Him," just as they had before done when they saw that He made Himself equal with God (Joh 5:18).

JFB: Joh 8:58 - -- (See on Luk 4:30).

(See on Luk 4:30).

Clarke: Joh 8:57 - -- Thou art not yet fifty years old - Some MSS. read forty. The age of our blessed Lord has never been properly determined. Some of the primitive fathe...

Thou art not yet fifty years old - Some MSS. read forty. The age of our blessed Lord has never been properly determined. Some of the primitive fathers believed that he was fifty years old when he was crucified; but their foundation, which is no other than these words of the Jews, is but a very uncertain one. Calmet thinks that our Lord was at this time about thirty-four years and ten months old, and that he was crucified about the middle of his thirty-sixth year; and asserts that the vulgar era is three years too late. On the other hand, some allow him to have been but thirty-one years old, and that his ministry had lasted but one year. Many opinions on this subject, which are scarcely worthy of being copied, may be found in Calmet.

Clarke: Joh 8:58 - -- Before Abraham was, I am - The following is a literal translation of Calmet’ s note on this passage: - "I am from all eternity. I have existed ...

Before Abraham was, I am - The following is a literal translation of Calmet’ s note on this passage: - "I am from all eternity. I have existed before all ages. You consider in me only the person who speaks to you, and who has appeared to you within a particular time. But besides this human nature, which ye think ye know, there is in me a Divine and eternal nature. Both, united, subsist together in my person. Abraham knew how to distinguish them. He adored me as his God; and desired me as his Savior. He has seen me in my eternity, and he predicted my coming into the world."On the same verse Bishop Pearce speaks as follows: - "What Jesus here says relates (I think) to his existence antecedent to Abraham’ s days, and not to his having been the Christ appointed and foretold before that time; for, if Jesus had meant this, the answer I apprehend would not have been a pertinent one. He might have been appointed and foretold for the Christ; but if he had not had an existence before Abraham’ s days, neither could he have seen Abraham, (as, according to our English translation, the Jews suppose him to have said), nor could Abraham have seen him, as I suppose the Jews understood him to have said in the preceding verse, to which words of the Jews the words of Jesus here are intended as an answer."

Clarke: Joh 8:59 - -- Then took they up stones, etc. - It appears that the Jews understood him as asserting his Godhead; and, supposing him to be a blasphemer, they proce...

Then took they up stones, etc. - It appears that the Jews understood him as asserting his Godhead; and, supposing him to be a blasphemer, they proceeded to stone him, according to the law. Lev 24:16

Clarke: Joh 8:59 - -- But Jesus hid himself - In all probability he rendered himself invisible - though some will have it that he conveyed himself away from those Jews wh...

But Jesus hid himself - In all probability he rendered himself invisible - though some will have it that he conveyed himself away from those Jews who were his enemies, by mixing himself with the many who believed on him, (Joh 8:30, Joh 8:31), and who, we may suppose, favored his escape. Pearce

But where did they find the stones, Christ and they being in the temple? It is answered

1st. It is probable, as the buildings of the temple had not been yet completed, there might have been many stones near the place; or

2dly. They might have gone out so the outer courts for them; and, before their return, our Lord had escaped. See Lightfoot and Calmet

Clarke: Joh 8:59 - -- Going through the midst of them, and so passed by - These words are wanting in the Codex Bezae, and in several editions and versions. Erasmus, Groti...

Going through the midst of them, and so passed by - These words are wanting in the Codex Bezae, and in several editions and versions. Erasmus, Grotius, Beza, Pearce, and Griesbach, think them not genuine. The latter has left them out of the test. But, notwithstanding what these critics have said, the words seem necessary to explain the manner of our Lord’ s escape

1st.    He hid himself, by becoming invisible; and then

2dly.    He passed through the midst of them, and thus got clear away from the place

See a similar escape mentioned, Luk 4:30, and the note there

The subjects of this chapter are both uncommon and of vast importance

1.    The case of the woman taken in adultery, when properly and candidly considered, is both intelligible and edifying. It is likely that the accusation was well founded; and that the scribes and Pharisees endeavored maliciously to serve themselves of the fact, to embroil our Lord with the civil power, or ruin his moral reputation. Our Lord was no magistrate, and therefore could not, with any propriety, give judgment in the case; had he done it, it must have been considered an invasion of the rights and office of the civil magistrate, and would have afforded them ground for a process against him. On the other hand, had he acquitted the woman, he might have been considered, not only as setting aside the law of Moses, but as being indulgent to a crime of great moral turpitude, and the report of this must have ruined his moral character. He disappointed this malice by refusing to enter into the case; and overwhelmed his adversaries with confusion, by unmasking their hearts, and pointing out their private abominations. It is generally supposed that our Lord acquitted the woman: this is incorrect; he neither acquitted nor condemned her: he did not enter at all juridically into the business. His saying, Neither do I condemn thee, was no more than a simple declaration that he would not concern himself with the matter - that being the office of the chief magistrate; but, as a preacher of righteousness, he exhorted her to abandon her evil practices, lest the punishment, which she was now likely to escape, should be inflicted on her for a repetition of her transgression

2.    In several places in this chapter, our Lord shows his intimate union with the Father, both in will, doctrine, and deed; and though he never speaks so as to confound the persons, yet he evidently shows that such was the indivisible unity, subsisting between the Father and the Son, that what the one witnessed, the other witnessed; what the one did, the other did; and that he who saw the one necessarily saw the other

3.    The original state of Satan is here pointed out - he abode not in the truth, Joh 8:44. Therefore he was once in the truth, in righteousness and true holiness - and he fell from that truth into sin and falsehood, so that he became the father of lies and the first murderer. Our Lord confirms here the Mosaic account of the fall of man, and shows that this fall was brought about by his lies, and that these lies issued in the murder or destruction both of the body and soul of man

4.    The patience and meekness exercised by our Lord, towards his most fell and unrelenting enemies, are worthy the especial regard of all those who are persecuted for righteousness. - When he was reviled, he reviled not again. As the searcher of hearts, he simply declared their state, Joh 8:44, in order to their conviction and conversion: not to have done so, would have been to betray their souls. In this part of his conduct we find two grand virtues united, which are rarely associated in man, Meekness and Fidelity - patience to bear all insults and personal injuries; and boldness, is the face of persecution and death, to declare the truth. The meek man generally leaves the sinner unreproved: the bold and zealous man often betrays a want of due self-management, and reproves sin in a spirit which prevents the reproof from reaching the heart. In this respect also, our blessed Lord has left us an example, that we should follow his steps. Let him that readeth understand.

Calvin: Joh 8:57 - -- 57.Thou art not yet fifty years old They endeavor to refute Christ’s saying, by showing that he had asserted what was impossible, when he who was ...

57.Thou art not yet fifty years old They endeavor to refute Christ’s saying, by showing that he had asserted what was impossible, when he who was not yet fifty years of age makes himself equal to Abraham, who died many centuries before. Though Christ was not yet thirty-four years of age, yet they allow him to be somewhat older, that they may not appear to be too rigid and exact in dealing with him; as if they had said, “Thou certainly wilt not make thyself so old, though thou wert to boast that thou art already fifty years of age. ” Consequently, those who conjecture that he looked older than he actually was, or that the years mentioned in this passage are not solar years, in either case labor to no purpose. The notion of Papias, who says that Christ lived more than forty years, cannot at all be admitted.

Calvin: Joh 8:58 - -- 58.Before Abraham was As unbelievers judge only from the appearance of the flesh, Christ reminds them that he has something greater and higher than h...

58.Before Abraham was As unbelievers judge only from the appearance of the flesh, Christ reminds them that he has something greater and higher than human appearance, which is hidden from the senses of the flesh, and is perceived only by the eyes of faith; and that, in this respect, he might be seen by the holy fathers, before he was manifested in the flesh. But he uses different verbs. Before Abraham was, 249 or, Before Abraham was born, 250 I am. 251 But by these words he excludes himself from the ordinary rank of men, and claims for himself a power more than human, 252 a power heavenly and divine, the perception of which reached from the beginning of the world through all ages.

Yet these words may be explained in two ways. Some think that this applies simply to the eternal Divinity of Christ, and compare it with that passage in the writings of Moses, I am what I am, (Exo 3:14.) But I extend it much farther, because the power and grace of Christ, so far as he is the Redeemer of the world, was common to all ages. It agrees therefore with that saying of the apostle, Christ yesterday, and to-day, and for ever, (Heb 13:8.) For the context appears to demand this interpretation. He had formerly said that Abraham longed for his day with vehement desire; and as this seemed incredible to the Jews, he adds, that he himself also existed at that time. The reason assigned will not appear sufficiently strong, if we do not understand that he was even then acknowledged to be the Mediator, by whom God was to be appeased. And yet the efficacy which belonged, in all ages, to the grace of the Mediator depended on his eternal Divinity; so that this saying of Christ contains a remarkable testimony of his Divine essence.

We ought also to observe the solemn form of an oath, Verily, verily. Nor do I disapprove of the opinion of Chrysostom, that the present tense of the verb is emphatic; for he does not say, I was, but I am; by which he denotes a condition uniformly the same from the beginning to the end. And he does not say, Before Abraham was, but, Before Abraham was made; which implies that Abraham had a beginning.

Calvin: Joh 8:59 - -- 59.Then they took up stones There is reason to believe that they did this, as if Christ ought to be stoned according to the injunction of the Law, (L...

59.Then they took up stones There is reason to believe that they did this, as if Christ ought to be stoned according to the injunction of the Law, (Lev 24:16.) Hence we infer how great is the madness of inconsiderate zeal; for they have no ears to know the cause, but they have hands ready to commit murder. I have no doubt that Christ rescued himself by his secret power, but yet under the appearance of a low condition; for he did not intend to make a clear display of his Divinity without leaving something for human infirmity. Some copies have the words, And so Jesus passed through the midst of them; which Erasmus justly considers to have been borrowed from the Gospel by Luk 4:30. It deserves notice also, that the wicked priests and scribes, after having banished Christ,

in whom dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead,
|(Col 2:9,)

retain possession of the outward temple; but they are greatly deceived, when they think that they have a temple in which God does not dwell. Such is the course now pursued by the Pope and his followers. After having banished Christ, and in this manner profaned the Church, they foolishly glory in the false disguise of a Church.

Defender: Joh 8:58 - -- This is probably the most unmistakable claim of deity yet made by Christ, and the Jewish leaders clearly understood what He was saying. He not only wa...

This is probably the most unmistakable claim of deity yet made by Christ, and the Jewish leaders clearly understood what He was saying. He not only was referring them back to Abraham's vision (see note on Joh 8:56), but also to Exo 3:14, when Moses asked God His name and received the reply: "I AM THAT I AM." That is, God told Moses (and Jesus told the Jews) that He was the eternally existent One, the Creator and Sustainer of all things. "Before Abraham was [born], I am.""

Defender: Joh 8:59 - -- Because they thought Jesus was a blasphemer, the Jews immediately sought to carry out the legal judgment of stoning (Lev 24:16). As He had done on sev...

Because they thought Jesus was a blasphemer, the Jews immediately sought to carry out the legal judgment of stoning (Lev 24:16). As He had done on several occasions before, however, Jesus "merely passed through the midst of them" (Luk 4:30), because "his hour was not yet come" (Joh 7:30). This verse says that Jesus "hid himself," but does not elaborate as to how this was done. Angels were always with Him (Mar 1:13; Luk 22:43), so they may well have been involved."

TSK: Joh 8:58 - -- Verily : Joh 8:34, Joh 8:51 Before : Joh 1:1, Joh 1:2, Joh 17:5, Joh 17:24; Pro 8:22-30; Isa 9:6; Mic 5:2; Col 1:17; Heb 1:10-12; Heb 13:8; Rev 1:11, ...

Verily : Joh 8:34, Joh 8:51

Before : Joh 1:1, Joh 1:2, Joh 17:5, Joh 17:24; Pro 8:22-30; Isa 9:6; Mic 5:2; Col 1:17; Heb 1:10-12; Heb 13:8; Rev 1:11, Rev 1:17, Rev 1:18, Rev 2:8

I am : That our Lord by this expression asserted his divinity and eternal existence, as the great I AM, appears evident from the use of the present tense, instead of the past tense, from its being in answer to the Jews, who enquired whether he had seen Abraham, and from its being thus understood by the multitude, who were exasperated at it to such a degree that they took up stones to stone him. The ancient Jews not only believed that the Messiah was superior to and Lord of all the patriarchs, and even of angels, but that his celestial nature existed with God from whom it emanated, before the creation, and that the creation was effected by his ministry. Exo 3:14; Isa 43:13, Isa 44:6, Isa 44:8, Isa 46:9, Isa 48:12; Rev 1:8

TSK: Joh 8:59 - -- took : Joh 8:5, Joh 8:6, Joh 10:30-33, Joh 11:8, Joh 18:31; Lev 24:16; Luk 4:29; Act 7:57 but : Joh 5:13, Joh 10:39, Joh 10:40, Joh 11:54; Gen 19:11; ...

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Barnes: Joh 8:57 - -- Fifty years old - Jesus is supposed to have been at this time about the age of 33. It is remarkable that when he was so young they should have ...

Fifty years old - Jesus is supposed to have been at this time about the age of 33. It is remarkable that when he was so young they should have mentioned the number 50, but they probably designed to prevent the possibility of a reply. Had they said 40 they might have apprehended a reply, or could not be so certain that they were correct.

Hast thou seen Abraham? - It is remarkable, also, that they perverted his words. His affirmation was not that he had seen Abraham, but that Abraham had seen his day. The design of Jesus was to show that he was greater than Abraham, Joh 8:53. To do this, he says that Abraham, great as he was, earnestly desired to see his time, thus acknowledging his inferiority to the Messiah. The Jews perverted this, and affirmed that it was impossible that he and Abraham should have seen each other.

Barnes: Joh 8:58 - -- Verily, verily - This is an expression used only in John. It is a strong affirmation denoting particularly the great importance of what was abo...

Verily, verily - This is an expression used only in John. It is a strong affirmation denoting particularly the great importance of what was about to be affirmed. See the notes at Joh 3:5.

Before Abraham was - Before Abraham lived.

I am - The expression I am, though in the present tense, is clearly designed to refer to a past time. Thus, in Psa 90:2, "From everlasting to everlasting thou art God."Applied to God, it denotes continued existence without respect to time, so far as he is concerned. We divide time into the past, the present, and the future. The expression, applied to God, denotes that he does not measure his existence in this manner, but that the word by which we express the present denotes his continued and unchanging existence. Hence, he assumes it as his name, "I AM,"and "I AM that I AM,"Exo 3:14. Compare Isa 44:6; Isa 47:8. There is a remarkable similarity between the expression employed by Jesus in this place and that used in Exodus to denote the name of God. The manner in which Jesus used it would strikingly suggest the application of the same language to God. The question here was about his pre-existence. The objection of the Jews was that he was not 50 years old, and could not, therefore, have seen Abraham. Jesus replied to that that he existed before Abraham. As in his human nature he was not yet 50 years old, and could not, as a man, have existed before Abraham, this declaration must be referred to another nature; and the passage proves that, while he was a man, he was also endowed with another nature existing before Abraham, and to which he applied the term (familiar to the Jews as expressive of the existence of God) I AM; and this declaration corresponds to the affirmation of John Joh 1:1, that he was in the beginning with God, and was God. This affirmation of Jesus is one of the proofs on which John relies to prove that he was the Messiah Joh 20:31, to establish which was the design of writing this book.

Barnes: Joh 8:59 - -- Then took they up stones - It seems they understood him as blaspheming, and proceeded, even without a form of trial, to stone him as such, beca...

Then took they up stones - It seems they understood him as blaspheming, and proceeded, even without a form of trial, to stone him as such, because this was the punishment prescribed in the law for blasphemy, Lev 24:16. See Joh 10:31. The fact that the Jews understood him in this sense is strong proof that his words naturally conveyed the idea that he was divine. This was in the temple. Herod the Great had not yet completed its repairs, and Dr. Lightfoot has remarked that stones would be lying around the temple in repairing it, which the people could easily use in their indignation.

Jesus hid himself - See Luk 4:30. That is, he either by a miracle rendered himself invisible, or he so mixed with the multitude that he was concealed from them and escaped. Which is the meaning cannot be determined.

Poole: Joh 8:57 - -- Christ was at this time but three and thirty years old, and upward: they dream of Abraham’ s seeing him, and his seeing Abraham, with bodily ey...

Christ was at this time but three and thirty years old, and upward: they dream of Abraham’ s seeing him, and his seeing Abraham, with bodily eyes, of which Christ said nothing; that indeed had been a thing impossible, for Abraham was dead many hundred years before Christ appeared in the flesh to the world: neither doth our Saviour say, that he had seen Abraham, or that Abraham had seen him; but that he had seen his day, his coming in the flesh, his death, which Abraham had seen, not with bodily eyes, but with the eye of faith.

Poole: Joh 8:58 - -- Some will have the meaning to be, that Christ was before Abraham’ s time constituted Mediator; as he is said to be the Lamb slain from the f...

Some will have the meaning to be, that Christ was before Abraham’ s time constituted Mediator; as he is said to be the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world, Rev 13:8 : so 1Pe 1:20 . But thus it might have been said of any of the elect, that they were chosen before Abraham was. It is therefore undoubtedly to be understood of Christ’ s eternal existence, as to his Divine nature; and this will appear, as from other arguments, so from the whole scope of our Saviour’ s former discourse in this chapter, which was to assert his Divine nature and equality with the Father.

Poole: Joh 8:59 - -- Then took they up stones to cast at him as they also did, Joh 5:31 . It is vain to inquire where they had stones in the temple; they might be repairi...

Then took they up stones to cast at him as they also did, Joh 5:31 . It is vain to inquire where they had stones in the temple; they might be repairing some part of it, or some parts of it paved with stones might be loose, &c.; it is enough that we are assured that some they found. He did not go

through the midst of them that were in this uproar, but first thrust himself into the more innocent crowd, then passed through the midst of them. Some make a question here, how he could pass through the midst of them? Whether he made his body invisible? (so the Lutherans think); or whether he struck his enemies with blindness, or thickened the air before their eyes? But what needs that dispute? Admit some few of the rabble to be in a rage, the greatest part innocent, it is no hard thing for us to conceive how a person, discerning the disorder, may thrust himself into the more innocent crowd, and pass by, escaping the rage of his enemies.

Lightfoot: Joh 8:57 - -- Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?   [Thou art not yet fifty years old.] Apply th...

Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?   

[Thou art not yet fifty years old.] Apply these words to the time of superannuating the Levites, Numbers_4, and we shall find no need of those knots and difficulties wherewith some have puzzled themselves. Thou art not yet fifty years old; that is, Thou art not yet come to the common years of superannuation: and dost thou talk that "thou hast seen Abraham?"

Lightfoot: Joh 8:58 - -- Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.   [Before Abraham was, I am.] They pervert the questi...

Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.   

[Before Abraham was, I am.] They pervert the question. Christ had said, 'Abraham saw my day': on the contrary, they ask him, 'Hast thou seen Abraham?'   

This phrase, I am; sometimes is rendered from the single word I. So the Greek interpreters in the Books of Judges and Ruth: for you seldom or never meet with it elsewhere.   

Jdg 6:18; " I will tarry or sit here." Jdg 11:27; Wherefore I have not sinned against thee. Jdg 11:35; For I have opened my mouth. Jdg 11:37; I and my fellows. Rth 4:4; I will redeem it.   

As to this form of speech, let those that are better skilled in the Greek tongue be the judges.

Lightfoot: Joh 8:59 - -- Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by. &n...

Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.   

[Then took they up stones, etc.] would you also murder another prophet in the very court of the Temple, O ye murderous generation? Remember but Zacharias, and surely that might suffice. But whence could they get stones in the court of the Temple? Let the answer be made from something parallel:   

"It is storied of Abba Chalpatha, who, going to Rabban Gamaliel at Tiberias, found him sitting at the table of Jochanan the moneychanger, with the Book of Job in his hand Targumized [that is, rendered into the Chaldee tongue], and reading in it. Saith he to him, 'I remember your grandfather Rabban Gamaliel, how he stood upon Gab in the mountain of the Temple, and they brought unto him the Book of Job Targumized. He calls to the architect; saying, Ram him under the foundation.' R. Jose saith, They whelmed him under a heap of clay. Is there any clay in the mountain of the Temple?" Gloss: "There was mortar which they used in building."   

It may be noted, by the by, that they were building in the Temple in the days of the first Gamaliel, who sat president in the Sanhedrim about the latter days of our Saviour; which confirms what I already have noted in Joh 2:20; and further teaches us whence they might have stones in readiness; for they were now building, and they might have pieces of stone enough there.

Haydock: Joh 8:58 - -- Before Abraham was made, I am. [4] Christ here speaks of his eternal existence as God. St. Augustine shews this by these very words, I am. He doe...

Before Abraham was made, I am. [4] Christ here speaks of his eternal existence as God. St. Augustine shews this by these very words, I am. He does not say, before Abraham was made, I was made: because, as the Son of God, he never was made: but I am, which shews his eternal divine nature. (Witham)

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Abraham fieret, ego sum; Greek: prin Abraam genesthai, ego eimi. St. Augustine, (tract. xliii. in Joan. num. 17. p. 588.) intellige, fieret ad creaturam, sum vero pertinere ad divinam substantiam: non dixit, antequam Abraham esset, ego eram, ... neque dixit, ego factus sum ... agnoscite creatorem, discernite creaturam.

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Gill: Joh 8:57 - -- Then said the Jews unto him, thou art not yet fifty years old,.... One copy reads forty, but he was not that; no, not much more than thirty; not above...

Then said the Jews unto him, thou art not yet fifty years old,.... One copy reads forty, but he was not that; no, not much more than thirty; not above two or three and thirty years old: the reason of their fixing on this age of fifty might be, because Christ might look like such an one, being a man of sorrows and acquainted with griefs, as well as of great gravity; or they might be free in allowing him as many years, as could be thought he should be of, and gain their point; for what were fifty years, when Abraham had been dead above two thousand? and therefore he could never see Abraham, nor Abraham see him; moreover, this age of fifty, is often spoken of by the Jews, and much observed; at the age of fifty, a man is fit to give counsel, they say a; hence the Levites were dismissed from service at that age, it being more proper for them then to give advice, than to bear burdens; a Methurgeman, or an interpreter in a congregation, was not chosen under fifty years of age b; and if a man died before he was fifty, this was called the death of cutting off c; a violent death, a death inflicted by God, as a punishment; Christ lived not to that age, he was now many years short of it:

and hast thou seen Abraham? if he had not, Abraham had seen him, in the sense before given, and in which Christ asserted it, and it is to be understood.

Gill: Joh 8:58 - -- Jesus said unto them, verily, verily, I say unto you,.... Whether it will be believed or not, it is certainly fact: before Abraham was, I am; which...

Jesus said unto them, verily, verily, I say unto you,.... Whether it will be believed or not, it is certainly fact:

before Abraham was, I am; which is to be understood, not of his being in the purpose and decree of God, foreordained to sufferings, and to glory; for so all the elect of God may be said to be before Abraham, being chosen in Christ before the foundation of the world: or that Christ was man, before Abraham became the father of many nations; that is, before the calling of the Gentiles; for nothing is said in the text about his being the father of many nations; it is a bold and impudent addition to it: and besides, Abraham was made the father of many nations, as Ishmaelites, Israelites, Hagarenes, &c. long before the incarnation of Christ; yea, he was so from the very promise in Gen 17:5, which so runs, "a father of many nations have I made thee"; so that this appears a false sense of the text, which is to be understood of the deity, eternity, and immutability of Christ, and refers to the passage in Exo 3:14. "I am that I am--I am hath sent me unto you", the true Jehovah; and so Christ was before Abraham was in being, the everlasting I am, the eternal God, which is, and was, and is to come: he appeared in an human form to our first parents before Abraham was, and was manifested as the Mediator, Saviour, and living Redeemer, to whom all the patriarchs before Abraham looked, and by whom they were saved: he was concerned in the creation of all things out of nothing, as the efficient cause thereof; he was set up from everlasting as Mediator; and the covenant of grace was made with him, and the blessings and promises of it were put into his hands before the world began; the eternal election of men to everlasting life was made in him before the foundation of the world; and he had a glory with his Father before the world was; yea, from all eternity he was the Son of God, of the same nature with him, and equal to him; and his being of the same nature proves his eternity, as well as deity, that he is from everlasting to everlasting God; and is what he ever was, and will be what he now is: he is immutable, the same today, yesterday, and for ever; in his nature, love, grace, and fulness, he is the invariable and unchangeable I am.

Gill: Joh 8:59 - -- Then they took up stones to cast at him,.... Supposing that he had spoken blasphemy; for they well understood that he, by so saying, made himself to b...

Then they took up stones to cast at him,.... Supposing that he had spoken blasphemy; for they well understood that he, by so saying, made himself to be the eternal God, the unchangeable Jehovah. Should it be asked how they came by their stones in the temple? it may be replied, the temple was still building, Joh 2:20, and stones, or pieces of stones, might lie about, with which they furnished themselves, in order to have destroyed Christ: and this they attempted, though it was on the sabbath day, as appears from Joh 9:1; and with them, סקילה בשבת, "stoning on the sabbath day" d was allowed in some cases.

But Jesus hid himself, not in any corner of the temple, or behind a pillar; but he withdrew himself from them directly, and made himself invisible to them, by holding their eyes, or casting a mist before them, that they could not see him:

and went out of the temple; by one of the gates of it:

going through the midst of them; not of the persons that took up stones to stone him; but the rest of the people, who were there in great multitudes to hear his doctrine, and see his miracles: and so passed by, and escaped out of their hands; the last words, going through the midst of them,

and so passed by, are not in Beza's most ancient copy, and in the Vulgate Latin version.

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Commentary -- Verse Notes / Footnotes

NET Notes: Joh 8:57 Grk “And have.”

NET Notes: Joh 8:58 I am! is an explicit claim to deity. Although each occurrence of the phrase “I am” in the Fourth Gospel needs to be examined individually ...

NET Notes: Joh 8:59 Grk “from the temple.”

Geneva Bible: Joh 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I ( y ) am. ( y ) Christ, as he was God, was before Abraham: and he was the...

Geneva Bible: Joh 8:59 ( 21 ) Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by. ...

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Commentary -- Verse Range Notes

TSK Synopsis: Joh 8:1-59 - --1 Christ delivers the woman taken in adultery.12 He declares himself the light of the world, and justifies his doctrine;31 promises freedom to those w...

Combined Bible: Joh 8:33-59 - --of the Gospel of John    CHAPTER 30    Christ, the Light of the World (Concluded)    John 8:33-59    Th...

MHCC: Joh 8:54-59 - --Christ and all that are his, depend upon God for honour. Men may be able to dispute about God, yet may not know him. Such as know not God, and obey no...

Matthew Henry: Joh 8:51-59 - -- In these verses we have, I. The doctrine of the immortality of believers laid down, Joh 8:51. It is ushered in with the usual solemn preface, Veril...

Barclay: Joh 8:56-59 - --All the previous lightning flashes pale into significance before the blaze of this passage. When Jesus said to the Jews that Abraham rejoiced to see ...

Constable: Joh 1:19--13:1 - --II. Jesus' public ministry 1:19--12:50 The first part of the body of John's Gospel records Jesus' public ministr...

Constable: Joh 7:10--11:1 - --H. Jesus' third visit to Jerusalem 7:10-10:42 This section of the text describes Jesus' teaching in Jeru...

Constable: Joh 8:12-59 - --5. The light of the world discourse 8:12-59 Following Jesus' claim to be the water of life (7:37...

Constable: Joh 8:48-59 - --The violent response of Jesus' critics 8:48-59 8:48 Since the Jews could not refute Jesus' challenge they resorted to verbal abuse (cf. 7:52). Perhaps...

College: Joh 8:1-59 - --JOHN 8 Textual Parenthesis: The Woman Taken in Adultery (7:53-8:11) 53 Then each went to his own home. 1 But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. 2 A...

McGarvey: Joh 8:12-59 - -- LXXX. MESSIANIC CLAIMS MET BY ATTEMPT TO STONE JESUS. (Jerusalem. October, A. D. 29.) dJOHN VIII. 12-59.    d12 Again therefore Jesus...

Lapide: Joh 8:37-59 - --Ver. 37.— I know, &c. By nature ye are Abraham's children, but in your deeds ye are degenerate. Your descent from Abraham will not therefore prof...

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Commentary -- Other

Evidence: Joh 8:58 Jesus’ unique words : Jesus was affirming that He was God manifest in the flesh. He is the Great " I AM"—he Eternal One who revealed Himself to Mo...

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Introduction / Outline

Robertson: John (Book Introduction) THE Fourth Gospel By Way of Introduction Greatest of Books The test of time has given the palm to the Fourth Gospel over all the books of the wor...

JFB: John (Book Introduction) THE author of the Fourth Gospel was the younger of the two sons of Zebedee, a fisherman on the Sea of Galilee, who resided at Bethsaida, where were bo...

JFB: John (Outline) THE WORD MADE FLESH. (Joh 1:1-14) A SAYING OF THE BAPTIST CONFIRMATORY OF THIS. (Joh 1:15) SAME SUBJECT CONTINUED. (Joh 1:16-18) THE BAPTIST'S TESTIM...

TSK: John (Book Introduction) John, who, according to the unanimous testimony of the ancient fathers and ecclesiastical writers, was the author of this Gospel, was the son of Zebed...

TSK: John 8 (Chapter Introduction) Overview Joh 8:1, Christ delivers the woman taken in adultery; Joh 8:12, He declares himself the light of the world, and justifies his doctrine; J...

Poole: John 8 (Chapter Introduction) CHAPTER 8

MHCC: John (Book Introduction) The apostle and evangelist, John, seems to have been the youngest of the twelve. He was especially favoured with our Lord's regard and confidence, so ...

MHCC: John 8 (Chapter Introduction) (Joh 8:1-11) The Pharisees and the adulteress. (v. 12-59) Christ's discourse with the Pharisees.

Matthew Henry: John (Book Introduction) An Exposition, with Practical Observations, of The Gospel According to St. John It is not material to enquire when and where this gospel was written; ...

Matthew Henry: John 8 (Chapter Introduction) In this chapter we have, I. Christ's evading the snare which the Jews laid for him, in bringing to him a woman taken in adultery (Joh 8:1-11). II...

Barclay: John (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO SAINT JOHN The Gospel Of The EagleEye For many Christian people the Gospel according to St. John is the mos...

Barclay: John 8 (Chapter Introduction) The Light Men Failed To Recognize (Joh_8:12-20) The Light Men Failed To Recognize (Joh_8:12-20 Continued) The Light Men Failed To Recognize (Joh_...

Constable: John (Book Introduction) Introduction Writer The writer of this Gospel did not identify himself as such in the ...

Constable: John (Outline) Outline I. Prologue 1:1-18 A. The preincarnate Word 1:1-5 B. The witness...

Constable: John John Bibliography Allen, Ronald B. "Affirming Right-of-Way on Ancient Paths." Bibliotheca Sacra 153:609 (Januar...

Haydock: John (Book Introduction) THE HOLY GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST, ACCORDING TO ST. JOHN. INTRODUCTION St. John, the evangelist, a native of Bathsaida, in Galilee, was the son ...

Gill: John (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO JOHN The author of this Gospel is John, the son of Zebedee and Salome, the brother of James the greater; he outlived the rest of th...

College: John (Book Introduction) PREFACE INTRODUCTION Even the casual reader of the New Testament will notice that the first three accounts of Jesus' life are generally similar in t...

College: John (Outline) OUTLINE A good outline is more than half the battle in one's understanding and remembering the contents of any book. There is more than one way to bre...

Lapide: John (Book Introduction) NOTICE TO THE READER. Gospel of John Intro ——o—— AS it has been found impossible to compress the Translation of the Commentary upon S. John...

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