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Text -- John 8:58 (NET)

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8:58 Jesus said to them, “I tell you the solemn truth, before Abraham came into existence, I am!”
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 · Abraham a son of Terah; the father of Isaac; ancestor of the Jewish nation.,the son of Terah of Shem


Dictionary Themes and Topics: Temple | TRINITY, 1 | Self-righteousness | PERSON OF CHRIST, 4-8 | LITERATURE, SUB-APOSTOLIC, 2 | Jesus, The Christ | JESUS CHRIST, 5 | JESUS CHRIST, 4C2 | Abraham | more
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Robertson: Joh 8:58 - -- Before Abraham was ( prin Abraam genesthai ). Usual idiom with prin in positive sentence with infinitive (second aorist middle of ginomai ) and th...

Before Abraham was ( prin Abraam genesthai ).

Usual idiom with prin in positive sentence with infinitive (second aorist middle of ginomai ) and the accusative of general reference, "before coming as to Abraham,""before Abraham came into existence or was born."

Robertson: Joh 8:58 - -- I am ( egō eimi ). Undoubtedly here Jesus claims eternal existence with the absolute phrase used of God. The contrast between genesthai (entrance...

I am ( egō eimi ).

Undoubtedly here Jesus claims eternal existence with the absolute phrase used of God. The contrast between genesthai (entrance into existence of Abraham) and eimi (timeless being) is complete. See the same contrast between en in Joh 1:1 and egeneto in Joh 1:14. See the contrast also in Psa 90:2 between God (ei , art) and the mountains (genēthēnai ). See the same use of eimi in Joh 6:20; Joh 9:9; Joh 8:24, Joh 8:28; Joh 18:6.

Vincent: Joh 8:58 - -- Was, I am ( γενέσθαι, ἐγώ εἰμι ) It is important to observe the distinction between the two verbs. Abraham's life was unde...

Was, I am ( γενέσθαι, ἐγώ εἰμι )

It is important to observe the distinction between the two verbs. Abraham's life was under the conditions of time, and therefore had a temporal beginning. Hence, Abraham came into being , or was born (γενέσθαι ). Jesus' life was from and to eternity. Hence the formula for absolute , timeless existence, I am (ἐγώ εἰμι ). See on Joh 1:3; see on Joh 7:34.

Wesley: Joh 8:58 - -- Even from everlasting to everlasting. This is a direct answer to the objection of the Jews, and shows how much greater he was than Abraham.

Even from everlasting to everlasting. This is a direct answer to the objection of the Jews, and shows how much greater he was than Abraham.

JFB: Joh 8:57-59 - -- "No inference can be drawn from this as to the age of our Lord at the time as man. Fifty years was with the Jews the completion of manhood" [ALFORD].

"No inference can be drawn from this as to the age of our Lord at the time as man. Fifty years was with the Jews the completion of manhood" [ALFORD].

JFB: Joh 8:57-59 - -- He had said Abraham saw Him, as being his peculiar privilege. They give the opposite turn to it--"Hast Thou seen Abraham?" as an honor too great for H...

He had said Abraham saw Him, as being his peculiar privilege. They give the opposite turn to it--"Hast Thou seen Abraham?" as an honor too great for Him to pretend to.

JFB: Joh 8:58 - -- The words rendered "was" and "am" are quite different. The one clause means, "Abraham was brought into being"; the other, "I exist." The statement the...

The words rendered "was" and "am" are quite different. The one clause means, "Abraham was brought into being"; the other, "I exist." The statement therefore is not that Christ came into existence before Abraham did (as Arians affirm is the meaning), but that He never came into being at all, but existed before Abraham had a being; in other words, existed before creation, or eternally (as Joh 1:1). In that sense the Jews plainly understood Him, since "then took they up stones to cast at Him," just as they had before done when they saw that He made Himself equal with God (Joh 5:18).

JFB: Joh 8:58 - -- (See on Luk 4:30).

(See on Luk 4:30).

Clarke: Joh 8:58 - -- Before Abraham was, I am - The following is a literal translation of Calmet’ s note on this passage: - "I am from all eternity. I have existed ...

Before Abraham was, I am - The following is a literal translation of Calmet’ s note on this passage: - "I am from all eternity. I have existed before all ages. You consider in me only the person who speaks to you, and who has appeared to you within a particular time. But besides this human nature, which ye think ye know, there is in me a Divine and eternal nature. Both, united, subsist together in my person. Abraham knew how to distinguish them. He adored me as his God; and desired me as his Savior. He has seen me in my eternity, and he predicted my coming into the world."On the same verse Bishop Pearce speaks as follows: - "What Jesus here says relates (I think) to his existence antecedent to Abraham’ s days, and not to his having been the Christ appointed and foretold before that time; for, if Jesus had meant this, the answer I apprehend would not have been a pertinent one. He might have been appointed and foretold for the Christ; but if he had not had an existence before Abraham’ s days, neither could he have seen Abraham, (as, according to our English translation, the Jews suppose him to have said), nor could Abraham have seen him, as I suppose the Jews understood him to have said in the preceding verse, to which words of the Jews the words of Jesus here are intended as an answer."

Calvin: Joh 8:58 - -- 58.Before Abraham was As unbelievers judge only from the appearance of the flesh, Christ reminds them that he has something greater and higher than h...

58.Before Abraham was As unbelievers judge only from the appearance of the flesh, Christ reminds them that he has something greater and higher than human appearance, which is hidden from the senses of the flesh, and is perceived only by the eyes of faith; and that, in this respect, he might be seen by the holy fathers, before he was manifested in the flesh. But he uses different verbs. Before Abraham was, 249 or, Before Abraham was born, 250 I am. 251 But by these words he excludes himself from the ordinary rank of men, and claims for himself a power more than human, 252 a power heavenly and divine, the perception of which reached from the beginning of the world through all ages.

Yet these words may be explained in two ways. Some think that this applies simply to the eternal Divinity of Christ, and compare it with that passage in the writings of Moses, I am what I am, (Exo 3:14.) But I extend it much farther, because the power and grace of Christ, so far as he is the Redeemer of the world, was common to all ages. It agrees therefore with that saying of the apostle, Christ yesterday, and to-day, and for ever, (Heb 13:8.) For the context appears to demand this interpretation. He had formerly said that Abraham longed for his day with vehement desire; and as this seemed incredible to the Jews, he adds, that he himself also existed at that time. The reason assigned will not appear sufficiently strong, if we do not understand that he was even then acknowledged to be the Mediator, by whom God was to be appeased. And yet the efficacy which belonged, in all ages, to the grace of the Mediator depended on his eternal Divinity; so that this saying of Christ contains a remarkable testimony of his Divine essence.

We ought also to observe the solemn form of an oath, Verily, verily. Nor do I disapprove of the opinion of Chrysostom, that the present tense of the verb is emphatic; for he does not say, I was, but I am; by which he denotes a condition uniformly the same from the beginning to the end. And he does not say, Before Abraham was, but, Before Abraham was made; which implies that Abraham had a beginning.

Defender: Joh 8:58 - -- This is probably the most unmistakable claim of deity yet made by Christ, and the Jewish leaders clearly understood what He was saying. He not only wa...

This is probably the most unmistakable claim of deity yet made by Christ, and the Jewish leaders clearly understood what He was saying. He not only was referring them back to Abraham's vision (see note on Joh 8:56), but also to Exo 3:14, when Moses asked God His name and received the reply: "I AM THAT I AM." That is, God told Moses (and Jesus told the Jews) that He was the eternally existent One, the Creator and Sustainer of all things. "Before Abraham was [born], I am.""

TSK: Joh 8:58 - -- Verily : Joh 8:34, Joh 8:51 Before : Joh 1:1, Joh 1:2, Joh 17:5, Joh 17:24; Pro 8:22-30; Isa 9:6; Mic 5:2; Col 1:17; Heb 1:10-12; Heb 13:8; Rev 1:11, ...

Verily : Joh 8:34, Joh 8:51

Before : Joh 1:1, Joh 1:2, Joh 17:5, Joh 17:24; Pro 8:22-30; Isa 9:6; Mic 5:2; Col 1:17; Heb 1:10-12; Heb 13:8; Rev 1:11, Rev 1:17, Rev 1:18, Rev 2:8

I am : That our Lord by this expression asserted his divinity and eternal existence, as the great I AM, appears evident from the use of the present tense, instead of the past tense, from its being in answer to the Jews, who enquired whether he had seen Abraham, and from its being thus understood by the multitude, who were exasperated at it to such a degree that they took up stones to stone him. The ancient Jews not only believed that the Messiah was superior to and Lord of all the patriarchs, and even of angels, but that his celestial nature existed with God from whom it emanated, before the creation, and that the creation was effected by his ministry. Exo 3:14; Isa 43:13, Isa 44:6, Isa 44:8, Isa 46:9, Isa 48:12; Rev 1:8

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Barnes: Joh 8:58 - -- Verily, verily - This is an expression used only in John. It is a strong affirmation denoting particularly the great importance of what was abo...

Verily, verily - This is an expression used only in John. It is a strong affirmation denoting particularly the great importance of what was about to be affirmed. See the notes at Joh 3:5.

Before Abraham was - Before Abraham lived.

I am - The expression I am, though in the present tense, is clearly designed to refer to a past time. Thus, in Psa 90:2, "From everlasting to everlasting thou art God."Applied to God, it denotes continued existence without respect to time, so far as he is concerned. We divide time into the past, the present, and the future. The expression, applied to God, denotes that he does not measure his existence in this manner, but that the word by which we express the present denotes his continued and unchanging existence. Hence, he assumes it as his name, "I AM,"and "I AM that I AM,"Exo 3:14. Compare Isa 44:6; Isa 47:8. There is a remarkable similarity between the expression employed by Jesus in this place and that used in Exodus to denote the name of God. The manner in which Jesus used it would strikingly suggest the application of the same language to God. The question here was about his pre-existence. The objection of the Jews was that he was not 50 years old, and could not, therefore, have seen Abraham. Jesus replied to that that he existed before Abraham. As in his human nature he was not yet 50 years old, and could not, as a man, have existed before Abraham, this declaration must be referred to another nature; and the passage proves that, while he was a man, he was also endowed with another nature existing before Abraham, and to which he applied the term (familiar to the Jews as expressive of the existence of God) I AM; and this declaration corresponds to the affirmation of John Joh 1:1, that he was in the beginning with God, and was God. This affirmation of Jesus is one of the proofs on which John relies to prove that he was the Messiah Joh 20:31, to establish which was the design of writing this book.

Poole: Joh 8:58 - -- Some will have the meaning to be, that Christ was before Abraham’ s time constituted Mediator; as he is said to be the Lamb slain from the f...

Some will have the meaning to be, that Christ was before Abraham’ s time constituted Mediator; as he is said to be the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world, Rev 13:8 : so 1Pe 1:20 . But thus it might have been said of any of the elect, that they were chosen before Abraham was. It is therefore undoubtedly to be understood of Christ’ s eternal existence, as to his Divine nature; and this will appear, as from other arguments, so from the whole scope of our Saviour’ s former discourse in this chapter, which was to assert his Divine nature and equality with the Father.

Lightfoot: Joh 8:58 - -- Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.   [Before Abraham was, I am.] They pervert the questi...

Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.   

[Before Abraham was, I am.] They pervert the question. Christ had said, 'Abraham saw my day': on the contrary, they ask him, 'Hast thou seen Abraham?'   

This phrase, I am; sometimes is rendered from the single word I. So the Greek interpreters in the Books of Judges and Ruth: for you seldom or never meet with it elsewhere.   

Jdg 6:18; " I will tarry or sit here." Jdg 11:27; Wherefore I have not sinned against thee. Jdg 11:35; For I have opened my mouth. Jdg 11:37; I and my fellows. Rth 4:4; I will redeem it.   

As to this form of speech, let those that are better skilled in the Greek tongue be the judges.

Haydock: Joh 8:58 - -- Before Abraham was made, I am. [4] Christ here speaks of his eternal existence as God. St. Augustine shews this by these very words, I am. He doe...

Before Abraham was made, I am. [4] Christ here speaks of his eternal existence as God. St. Augustine shews this by these very words, I am. He does not say, before Abraham was made, I was made: because, as the Son of God, he never was made: but I am, which shews his eternal divine nature. (Witham)

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Abraham fieret, ego sum; Greek: prin Abraam genesthai, ego eimi. St. Augustine, (tract. xliii. in Joan. num. 17. p. 588.) intellige, fieret ad creaturam, sum vero pertinere ad divinam substantiam: non dixit, antequam Abraham esset, ego eram, ... neque dixit, ego factus sum ... agnoscite creatorem, discernite creaturam.

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Gill: Joh 8:58 - -- Jesus said unto them, verily, verily, I say unto you,.... Whether it will be believed or not, it is certainly fact: before Abraham was, I am; which...

Jesus said unto them, verily, verily, I say unto you,.... Whether it will be believed or not, it is certainly fact:

before Abraham was, I am; which is to be understood, not of his being in the purpose and decree of God, foreordained to sufferings, and to glory; for so all the elect of God may be said to be before Abraham, being chosen in Christ before the foundation of the world: or that Christ was man, before Abraham became the father of many nations; that is, before the calling of the Gentiles; for nothing is said in the text about his being the father of many nations; it is a bold and impudent addition to it: and besides, Abraham was made the father of many nations, as Ishmaelites, Israelites, Hagarenes, &c. long before the incarnation of Christ; yea, he was so from the very promise in Gen 17:5, which so runs, "a father of many nations have I made thee"; so that this appears a false sense of the text, which is to be understood of the deity, eternity, and immutability of Christ, and refers to the passage in Exo 3:14. "I am that I am--I am hath sent me unto you", the true Jehovah; and so Christ was before Abraham was in being, the everlasting I am, the eternal God, which is, and was, and is to come: he appeared in an human form to our first parents before Abraham was, and was manifested as the Mediator, Saviour, and living Redeemer, to whom all the patriarchs before Abraham looked, and by whom they were saved: he was concerned in the creation of all things out of nothing, as the efficient cause thereof; he was set up from everlasting as Mediator; and the covenant of grace was made with him, and the blessings and promises of it were put into his hands before the world began; the eternal election of men to everlasting life was made in him before the foundation of the world; and he had a glory with his Father before the world was; yea, from all eternity he was the Son of God, of the same nature with him, and equal to him; and his being of the same nature proves his eternity, as well as deity, that he is from everlasting to everlasting God; and is what he ever was, and will be what he now is: he is immutable, the same today, yesterday, and for ever; in his nature, love, grace, and fulness, he is the invariable and unchangeable I am.

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Commentary -- Verse Notes / Footnotes

NET Notes: Joh 8:58 I am! is an explicit claim to deity. Although each occurrence of the phrase “I am” in the Fourth Gospel needs to be examined individually ...

Geneva Bible: Joh 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I ( y ) am. ( y ) Christ, as he was God, was before Abraham: and he was the...

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Commentary -- Verse Range Notes

TSK Synopsis: Joh 8:1-59 - --1 Christ delivers the woman taken in adultery.12 He declares himself the light of the world, and justifies his doctrine;31 promises freedom to those w...

Combined Bible: Joh 8:33-59 - --of the Gospel of John    CHAPTER 30    Christ, the Light of the World (Concluded)    John 8:33-59    Th...

MHCC: Joh 8:54-59 - --Christ and all that are his, depend upon God for honour. Men may be able to dispute about God, yet may not know him. Such as know not God, and obey no...

Matthew Henry: Joh 8:51-59 - -- In these verses we have, I. The doctrine of the immortality of believers laid down, Joh 8:51. It is ushered in with the usual solemn preface, Veril...

Barclay: Joh 8:56-59 - --All the previous lightning flashes pale into significance before the blaze of this passage. When Jesus said to the Jews that Abraham rejoiced to see ...

Constable: Joh 1:19--13:1 - --II. Jesus' public ministry 1:19--12:50 The first part of the body of John's Gospel records Jesus' public ministr...

Constable: Joh 7:10--11:1 - --H. Jesus' third visit to Jerusalem 7:10-10:42 This section of the text describes Jesus' teaching in Jeru...

Constable: Joh 8:12-59 - --5. The light of the world discourse 8:12-59 Following Jesus' claim to be the water of life (7:37...

Constable: Joh 8:48-59 - --The violent response of Jesus' critics 8:48-59 8:48 Since the Jews could not refute Jesus' challenge they resorted to verbal abuse (cf. 7:52). Perhaps...

College: Joh 8:1-59 - --JOHN 8 Textual Parenthesis: The Woman Taken in Adultery (7:53-8:11) 53 Then each went to his own home. 1 But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. 2 A...

McGarvey: Joh 8:12-59 - -- LXXX. MESSIANIC CLAIMS MET BY ATTEMPT TO STONE JESUS. (Jerusalem. October, A. D. 29.) dJOHN VIII. 12-59.    d12 Again therefore Jesus...

Lapide: Joh 8:37-59 - --Ver. 37.— I know, &c. By nature ye are Abraham's children, but in your deeds ye are degenerate. Your descent from Abraham will not therefore prof...

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Commentary -- Other

Evidence: Joh 8:58 Jesus’ unique words : Jesus was affirming that He was God manifest in the flesh. He is the Great " I AM"—he Eternal One who revealed Himself to Mo...

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Introduction / Outline

Robertson: John (Book Introduction) THE Fourth Gospel By Way of Introduction Greatest of Books The test of time has given the palm to the Fourth Gospel over all the books of the wor...

JFB: John (Book Introduction) THE author of the Fourth Gospel was the younger of the two sons of Zebedee, a fisherman on the Sea of Galilee, who resided at Bethsaida, where were bo...

JFB: John (Outline) THE WORD MADE FLESH. (Joh 1:1-14) A SAYING OF THE BAPTIST CONFIRMATORY OF THIS. (Joh 1:15) SAME SUBJECT CONTINUED. (Joh 1:16-18) THE BAPTIST'S TESTIM...

TSK: John (Book Introduction) John, who, according to the unanimous testimony of the ancient fathers and ecclesiastical writers, was the author of this Gospel, was the son of Zebed...

TSK: John 8 (Chapter Introduction) Overview Joh 8:1, Christ delivers the woman taken in adultery; Joh 8:12, He declares himself the light of the world, and justifies his doctrine; J...

Poole: John 8 (Chapter Introduction) CHAPTER 8

MHCC: John (Book Introduction) The apostle and evangelist, John, seems to have been the youngest of the twelve. He was especially favoured with our Lord's regard and confidence, so ...

MHCC: John 8 (Chapter Introduction) (Joh 8:1-11) The Pharisees and the adulteress. (v. 12-59) Christ's discourse with the Pharisees.

Matthew Henry: John (Book Introduction) An Exposition, with Practical Observations, of The Gospel According to St. John It is not material to enquire when and where this gospel was written; ...

Matthew Henry: John 8 (Chapter Introduction) In this chapter we have, I. Christ's evading the snare which the Jews laid for him, in bringing to him a woman taken in adultery (Joh 8:1-11). II...

Barclay: John (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO SAINT JOHN The Gospel Of The EagleEye For many Christian people the Gospel according to St. John is the mos...

Barclay: John 8 (Chapter Introduction) The Light Men Failed To Recognize (Joh_8:12-20) The Light Men Failed To Recognize (Joh_8:12-20 Continued) The Light Men Failed To Recognize (Joh_...

Constable: John (Book Introduction) Introduction Writer The writer of this Gospel did not identify himself as such in the ...

Constable: John (Outline) Outline I. Prologue 1:1-18 A. The preincarnate Word 1:1-5 B. The witness...

Constable: John John Bibliography Allen, Ronald B. "Affirming Right-of-Way on Ancient Paths." Bibliotheca Sacra 153:609 (Januar...

Haydock: John (Book Introduction) THE HOLY GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST, ACCORDING TO ST. JOHN. INTRODUCTION St. John, the evangelist, a native of Bathsaida, in Galilee, was the son ...

Gill: John (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO JOHN The author of this Gospel is John, the son of Zebedee and Salome, the brother of James the greater; he outlived the rest of th...

College: John (Book Introduction) PREFACE INTRODUCTION Even the casual reader of the New Testament will notice that the first three accounts of Jesus' life are generally similar in t...

College: John (Outline) OUTLINE A good outline is more than half the battle in one's understanding and remembering the contents of any book. There is more than one way to bre...

Lapide: John (Book Introduction) NOTICE TO THE READER. Gospel of John Intro ——o—— AS it has been found impossible to compress the Translation of the Commentary upon S. John...

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