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Text -- Joshua 17:14 (NET)
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That is, of Ephraim and Manasseh.
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Wesley: Jos 17:14 - -- That is, expostulated with him, when they went and saw that portion which was allotted them, and found it much short of their expectation.
That is, expostulated with him, when they went and saw that portion which was allotted them, and found it much short of their expectation.
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Wesley: Jos 17:14 - -- Either, because they really had but one lot, which was afterwards divided by the arbitrators between them. Or, because the land severally allotted to ...
Either, because they really had but one lot, which was afterwards divided by the arbitrators between them. Or, because the land severally allotted to them, was but little enough for one of them.
JFB -> Jos 17:14-18
JFB: Jos 17:14-18 - -- The two tribes join in laying a complaint before the leader, as to the narrow boundaries of their allotment and its insufficiency to be the residence ...
The two tribes join in laying a complaint before the leader, as to the narrow boundaries of their allotment and its insufficiency to be the residence of tribes so vastly increased. But Joshua's answer was full of wisdom as well as patriotism. Knowing their character, he treated them accordingly, and sarcastically turned all their arguments against themselves. Thus he rebuked their unbelief and cowardice.
Calvin -> Jos 17:14
Calvin: Jos 17:14 - -- 14.And the children of Joseph spoke unto Joshua, etc Although they clothe their complaint with some color of excuse, yet they dishonestly disguise th...
14.And the children of Joseph spoke unto Joshua, etc Although they clothe their complaint with some color of excuse, yet they dishonestly disguise the fact, that more was comprehended in one lot than was proper for one tribe. I know not, however, whether or not the lot was cast indefinitely for the sons of Joseph: it certainly does not seem congruous that it should be so. Joshua and the other dividers were not unaware that Ephraim and Manasseh formed two heads, or two stems: and it has repeatedly been said before that the land was divided into ten tribes, which number was not accurate, unless the tribe of Manasseh was considered distinct from that of Ephraim. It is certain, therefore, that they had not fallen into such a gross blunder as to throw the two names into one lot. Now, to conceal two tribes under the name of Joseph, in order to defraud them of half their right, would have been intolerable injustice. We may add, that the domain of each was distinctly explained and described by its proper boundaries. 159
We are therefore led to conclude, that when the lots were cast for the two tribes, the admirable counsel of God arranged that the brothers, who had a common father, should be contiguous and neighbors to each other. It is unworthy in them, therefore, to complain and plead that only one inheritance had been given to them, because Joshua had neither such heartlessness nor so much malice as to defraud them of a clear right either through thoughtlessness or envy. 160 But herein lay the falsehood of their complaint concerning narrow boundaries, that they counted all that was yet to be acquired by warlike prowess as nothing; as if the lot had assigned portions to the other tribes only in subjugated territory. Joshua, accordingly, in a single sentence, refutes and disposes of their plea, and retorts upon them a charge by which they were trying to throw obloquy upon him. If your resources and your numbers are so great, why, he asks, do you not make an inroad on the enemy, whose country has been given to you? Nor will the event disappoint you, if, trusting to the promise of God, you boldly proceed to the inheritance which he has bestowed upon you. We see how, although proper provision had been made for them, they were so blinded by sloth as to complain that they were straitened for room, because they were unwilling to move their finger to seek the full possession of their inheritance. Wherefore, this passage teaches us, that if at any time we think less is performed for us than is due, we ought carefully to shake off all delays, and not rashly throw upon others the blame which is inherent in ourselves.
TSK -> Jos 17:14
TSK: Jos 17:14 - -- one lot : Gen 48:22; Num 26:34-37; Deu 33:13-17
a great : Gen 48:19, Gen 49:22-26
one lot : Gen 48:22; Num 26:34-37; Deu 33:13-17
a great : Gen 48:19, Gen 49:22-26
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Barnes -> Jos 17:14
Barnes: Jos 17:14 - -- Seeing I am a great people - The assertion can hardly have been warranted by facts, for at the census Num. 26 the two tribes of Manasseh and Ep...
Seeing I am a great people - The assertion can hardly have been warranted by facts, for at the census Num. 26 the two tribes of Manasseh and Ephraim together were not greatly more numerous than the single tribe of Judah; and now that half the Manassites were provided for on the eastern side of Jordan, the remaining children of Joseph could hardly be stronger than the Danites or the Issacharites. The children of Joseph seem therefore to exhibit here that arrogant and jealous spirit which elsewhere characterises their conduct (Jdg 8:1; Jdg 12:1; 2Sa 19:41; 2Ch 28:7 etc.). A glance at the map shows that their complaint was in itself unreasonable. Their territory, which measured about 55 miles by 70 miles, was at least as large in proportion to their numbers as that of any other tribe, and moreover comprehended some of the most fertile of the whole promised land.
Poole -> Jos 17:14
Poole: Jos 17:14 - -- The children of Joseph i.e. of Ephraim and Manasseh, as is manifest, partly from Jos 17:17 , where it is so explained; and partly because they mentio...
The children of Joseph i.e. of Ephraim and Manasseh, as is manifest, partly from Jos 17:17 , where it is so explained; and partly because they mention it as an unreasonable thing, that they, being two, should have out one lot.
Spake unto Joshua i.e. expostulated with him, when they went and saw that portion which was allotted to them, and found it much short of their expectation.
One lot, and one portion either,
1. Because they really had but one lot, which was afterwards divided by the arbitrators between them. Or,
2. Because the land severally allotted to them was no more than was little enough for one of them.
A great people or numerous; for so the Hebrew word oft signifies.
Haydock -> Jos 17:14
Haydock: Jos 17:14 - -- Spoke. Septuagint, "contradicted Josue." In effect, they spoke with a good deal of emotion. ---
Portion. Hebrew, "cord." (Calmet) ---
They add...
Spoke. Septuagint, "contradicted Josue." In effect, they spoke with a good deal of emotion. ---
Portion. Hebrew, "cord." (Calmet) ---
They addressed themselves to the general, before their territory was divided. (Masius) ---
Or they insinuate that the portion allotted to them both, would scarcely suffice for one tribe, and there was but little room for them to enlarge their dominion by subduing the Chanaanites, as the rest might do. Manasses was most concerned, as his numbers had increased 20,500 since he left Egypt, while his brother had diminished, Numbers xxvi. 34. (Calmet) ---
But then he had an extensive country on the other side of the Jordan. (Haydock)
Gill -> Jos 17:14
Gill: Jos 17:14 - -- And the children of Joseph spake unto Joshua,.... Which some understand of the children of Manasseh only; and, indeed, the complaint and arguments use...
And the children of Joseph spake unto Joshua,.... Which some understand of the children of Manasseh only; and, indeed, the complaint and arguments used, as well as some circumstances in the account, best agree with them; yet certain it is, that the children of Ephraim accompanied the children of Manasseh, and were present at this interview, as appears from Jos 17:17; and if they did not join with them in the request and complaint expressly, they countenanced and encouraged the same by their presence:
saying, why hast thou given me but one lot and one portion to inherit: this seems to suit better with one than both; for there was a lot for the tribe of Manasseh also, as well as for Ephraim, Jos 17:1; by which it should seem that there were two, and if both made this expostulation, it was not fact; but it may be, that the inheritance which came to them by lot was not as yet divided, and so they called it one lot and one portion, and then it might with propriety be said by them both; and their sense be, that the lot or portion assigned them was only sufficient for one of them, and not for both:
seeing I am a great people; as especially both tribes put together were:
forasmuch as the Lord hath blessed me hitherto? this best agrees with the tribe of Manasseh, which, since their coming out of Egypt, was increased twenty thousand five hundred, whereas the tribe of Ephraim was decreased; compare Num 1:33 with Num 26:34. Now it might have been expected by them, that as Joshua was of the tribe of Ephraim, that he would have favoured their cause on that account, and that they should have obtained the grant of an addition by that means; but Joshua was impartial in his administration, and showed no favour and affection on that score, as appears by what follows.
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NET Notes -> Jos 17:14
NET Notes: Jos 17:14 Heb “Why have you given me as an inheritance one lot and one portion, though I am a great people until [the time] which, until now the Lord has ...
Geneva Bible -> Jos 17:14
Geneva Bible: Jos 17:14 And the children of Joseph spake unto Joshua, saying, Why hast thou given me [but] one lot and one portion to inherit, seeing I [am] a great people, f...
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TSK Synopsis -> Jos 17:1-18
TSK Synopsis: Jos 17:1-18 - --1 The lot of Manasseh.7 His coast.12 The Canaanites not driven out.14 The children of Joseph obtain another lot.
MHCC -> Jos 17:14-18
MHCC: Jos 17:14-18 - --Joshua, as a public person, had no more regard to his own tribe than to any other, but would govern without favour or affection; wherein he has left a...
Matthew Henry -> Jos 17:14-18
Matthew Henry: Jos 17:14-18 - -- Here, I. The children of Joseph quarrel with their lot; if they had had any just cause to quarrel with it, we have reason to think Joshua would have...
Keil-Delitzsch -> Jos 17:14-18
Keil-Delitzsch: Jos 17:14-18 - --
Complaint of the Descendants of Joseph respecting the inheritance allotted to them . - Jos 17:14. As the descendants of Joseph formed two tribes (E...
Constable -> Jos 13:1--21:45; Jos 16:1--17:18
Constable: Jos 13:1--21:45 - --II. THE DIVISION OF THE LAND chs. 13--21
Chapters 13-24 describe how Joshua divided the land and the results of ...
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