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Text -- Joshua 17:15 (NET)

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17:15 Joshua replied to them, “Since you have so many people, go up into the forest and clear out a place to live in the land of the Perizzites and Rephaites, for the hill country of Ephraim is too small for you.”
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Names, People and Places, Dictionary Themes and Topics

Names, People and Places:
 · Ephraim the tribe of Ephraim as a whole,the northern kingdom of Israel
 · Joshua a son of Eliezer; the father of Er; an ancestor of Jesus,the son of Nun and successor of Moses,son of Nun of Ephraim; successor to Moses,a man: owner of the field where the ark stopped,governor of Jerusalem under King Josiah,son of Jehozadak; high priest in the time of Zerubbabel
 · Perizzite a people of ancient Canaan in the later territory of Ephraim


Dictionary Themes and Topics: Sarcasm | Rephaim | PERIZZITE | PALESTINE, 2 | Joshua | Israel | HILL, HILL COUNTRY | Greed | Gibeon | FOREST | Ephraim, Mount | Ephraim | Cowardice | Canaanites | BOTANY | more
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TSK Synopsis , MHCC , Matthew Henry , Keil-Delitzsch , Constable , Guzik

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Commentary -- Word/Phrase Notes (per phrase)

Wesley: Jos 17:15 - -- He retorts their own argument; seeing thou art a great and numerous people, turn thy complaints into action, and enlarge thy borders by thy own hand, ...

He retorts their own argument; seeing thou art a great and numerous people, turn thy complaints into action, and enlarge thy borders by thy own hand, to which thou mayest confidently expect God's assistance.

Wesley: Jos 17:15 - -- country - To the mountain, as it is called, Jos 17:18, where among some towns there is much wood - land, which thou mayest without much difficulty pos...

country - To the mountain, as it is called, Jos 17:18, where among some towns there is much wood - land, which thou mayest without much difficulty possess, and so get the more room.

Wesley: Jos 17:15 - -- The wood, for thy own advantage; in building more cities and towns; and preparing the land for pasture and tillage.

The wood, for thy own advantage; in building more cities and towns; and preparing the land for pasture and tillage.

Wesley: Jos 17:15 - -- Supposed to be a savage and brutish kind of people, that lived in woods and mountains.

Supposed to be a savage and brutish kind of people, that lived in woods and mountains.

Wesley: Jos 17:15 - -- Who lived in caves and mountains, now especially when they were driven out of their cities.

Who lived in caves and mountains, now especially when they were driven out of their cities.

Wesley: Jos 17:15 - -- Or, seeing mount Ephraim is too narrow for thee, as thou complainest; take to thyself the rest of that hilly and wood country. Mount Ephraim was a par...

Or, seeing mount Ephraim is too narrow for thee, as thou complainest; take to thyself the rest of that hilly and wood country. Mount Ephraim was a particular portion of the land, belonging to the tribe of Ephraim. And this seems to be here mentioned, for all the portion allotted to Ephraim and Manasseh, as appears from their complaint, which was not, that this part, but that their whole portion was too strait for them.

JFB: Jos 17:14-18 - -- The two tribes join in laying a complaint before the leader, as to the narrow boundaries of their allotment and its insufficiency to be the residence ...

The two tribes join in laying a complaint before the leader, as to the narrow boundaries of their allotment and its insufficiency to be the residence of tribes so vastly increased. But Joshua's answer was full of wisdom as well as patriotism. Knowing their character, he treated them accordingly, and sarcastically turned all their arguments against themselves. Thus he rebuked their unbelief and cowardice.

JFB: Jos 17:15 - -- Called so here by anticipation. The Gilboa range between Beth-shean and the plain of Jezreel is meant, anciently covered with an extensive forest.

Called so here by anticipation. The Gilboa range between Beth-shean and the plain of Jezreel is meant, anciently covered with an extensive forest.

Clarke: Jos 17:15 - -- If thou be a great people - Joshua takes them at their own word; they said, Jos 17:14, that they were a great people; then said he, If thou be a gre...

If thou be a great people - Joshua takes them at their own word; they said, Jos 17:14, that they were a great people; then said he, If thou be a great people or seeing thou art a great people, go to the wood country, and clear away for thyself. Joshua would not reverse the decision of the lot; but as there was much woodland country, he gave them permission to clear away as much of it as they found necessary to extend themselves as far as they pleased.

TSK: Jos 17:15 - -- If thou be : Luk 12:48 the Perizzites : Gen 13:7; Exo 33:2; Ezr 9:1 giants : or, Rephaims, Gen 14:5, Gen 15:20; 2Sa 5:18, 2Sa 5:22

If thou be : Luk 12:48

the Perizzites : Gen 13:7; Exo 33:2; Ezr 9:1

giants : or, Rephaims, Gen 14:5, Gen 15:20; 2Sa 5:18, 2Sa 5:22

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Commentary -- Word/Phrase Notes (per Verse)

Barnes: Jos 17:15 - -- Joshua was himself of the tribe of Ephraim, but far from supporting the demands of his kinsmen he reproves them, and calls upon them to make good th...

Joshua was himself of the tribe of Ephraim, but far from supporting the demands of his kinsmen he reproves them, and calls upon them to make good their great words by corresponding deeds of valor. He bids them clear the country of its woods and thus make room for settling their people. The "wood country"means probably the range which runs along the northern border of Manasseh, and which connects the mountains of Gilboa with Carmel. Mount Ephraim, (a name perhaps used by anticipation) called "the hill"Jos 17:16, and "the mountain of Israel"Jos 11:16, is the eastern portion of the territory of Ephraim and Manasseh extending toward the Jordan. This was a hilly, though by no means barren, district.

Poole: Jos 17:15 - -- He retorts their own argument: Seeing thou art a great and numerous people, turn thy complaints into actions and valiant exploits, and enlarge thy b...

He retorts their own argument: Seeing thou art a great and numerous people, turn thy complaints into actions and valiant exploits, and enlarge thy borders by thy own hand, to which thou mayst confidently expect God’ s assistance.

To the wood country to the mountain, as it, is called, Jos 17:18 , where among some towns there is much wood land, which thou mayst without much difficulty possess, and so get the more room.

Cut down i.e. the wood, Jos 17:18 , for thy own advantage and use; partly in building more cities and towns; and partly for preparing the land for the use of pasture and tillage.

The Perizzites supposed to be a savage and brutish kind of people, that lived in woods and mountains.

Of the giants who lived in caves and mountains, now especially when they were driven out of their cities.

If Mount Ephraim be too narrow for thee or, seeing Mount Ephraim is too narrow for thee , as thou complainest, take to thyself the rest of that hilly and wood country. Mount Ephraim was a particular and eminent portion of the land, belonging to the tribe of Ephraim, as appears from Jos 19:50 20:7 21:21 Jud 4:5 . And this seems to be here mentioned synecdochically, for all the portion allotted to Ephraim and Manasseh, as appears from their complaint, which was not that this part, but that their whole portion, was too strait for them.

Gill: Jos 17:15 - -- And Joshua answered them,.... By retorting their own argument upon them: if thou be a great people; which he does not deny, as they were for numbe...

And Joshua answered them,.... By retorting their own argument upon them:

if thou be a great people; which he does not deny, as they were for numbers and power:

then get thee up to the wood country; which was near them, and within their borders, and lay on hills and mountains, perhaps the mountains of Gilboa, and therefore are bid to go up:

and cut down for thyself there; cut down the trees of the wood, clear the ground of them, and so make it habitable, and by that means enlarge the places of their habitation:

in the land of the Perizzites, and of the giants; or Rephaim; the former of these were one of the seven nations of the Canaanites, who from their name seem to have dwelt not in the cities, and walled towns, but in villages, and scattered houses, in desert places, and among the woods, where also the giants had retired and dwelt after Joshua had driven them out of the cities; and by driving these out of their present habitations, they would gain more room to dwell in, and would find their lot sufficient for them:

if Mount Ephraim be too narrow for thee; either meaning all Ephraim, and even the whole lot of the sons of Joseph, or rattler the mount particularly so called; for the words may be rendered, "for Mount Ephraim hastens for thee" q; was clear or open for thee; ready to be delivered to thee, and thou mayest possess it at once.

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Commentary -- Verse Notes / Footnotes

NET Notes: Jos 17:15 Heb “If you are a great people.”

Geneva Bible: Jos 17:15 And Joshua answered them, If thou [be] a great people, [then] get thee up to the wood [country], and cut down for thyself there in the land of the Per...

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Commentary -- Verse Range Notes

TSK Synopsis: Jos 17:1-18 - --1 The lot of Manasseh.7 His coast.12 The Canaanites not driven out.14 The children of Joseph obtain another lot.

MHCC: Jos 17:14-18 - --Joshua, as a public person, had no more regard to his own tribe than to any other, but would govern without favour or affection; wherein he has left a...

Matthew Henry: Jos 17:14-18 - -- Here, I. The children of Joseph quarrel with their lot; if they had had any just cause to quarrel with it, we have reason to think Joshua would have...

Keil-Delitzsch: Jos 17:14-18 - -- Complaint of the Descendants of Joseph respecting the inheritance allotted to them . - Jos 17:14. As the descendants of Joseph formed two tribes (E...

Constable: Jos 13:1--21:45 - --II. THE DIVISION OF THE LAND chs. 13--21 Chapters 13-24 describe how Joshua divided the land and the results of ...

Constable: Jos 16:1--17:18 - --4. Joseph's inheritance chs. 16-17 The writer may have dealt with the tribes of Ephraim and Manasseh together since Jacob had given Joseph the second ...

Guzik: Jos 17:1-18 - --Joshua 15, 16, 17 - The Inheritance of Judah, Ephraim and Western Manasseh 3. (17:1-2) Distribution of the land among the remaining families of the ...

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Introduction / Outline

JFB: Joshua (Book Introduction) JOSHUA. The title of this book is derived from the pious and valiant leader whose achievements it relates and who is commonly supposed to have been it...

JFB: Joshua (Outline) THE LORD APPOINTS JOSHUA TO SUCCEED MOSES. (Jos. 1:1-18) RAHAB RECEIVES AND CONCEALS THE TWO SPIES. (Jos 2:1-7) THE COVENANT BETWEEN HER AND THEM. (J...

TSK: Joshua (Book Introduction) The Book of Joshua is one of the most important documents in the Old Testament. The rapid conquest of the Promised Land, and the actual settlement of...

TSK: Joshua 17 (Chapter Introduction) Overview Jos 17:1, The lot of Manasseh; Jos 17:7, His coast; Jos 17:12, The Canaanites not driven out; Jos 17:14, The children of Joseph obtain an...

Poole: Joshua (Book Introduction) BOOK OF JOSHUA THE ARGUMENT IT is not material to know who was the penman of this book, whether Joshua, as seems most probable from Jos 24:26 , o...

Poole: Joshua 17 (Chapter Introduction) CHAPTER 17 The inheritance of Manasseh, and its borders, Jos 17:1-11 . They could not drive out the Canaanites, but made them tributary, Jos 17:12,...

MHCC: Joshua (Book Introduction) Here is the history of Israel's passing into the land of Canaan, conquering and dividing it, under the command of Joshua, and their history until his ...

MHCC: Joshua 17 (Chapter Introduction) (Jos 17:1-6) The lot of Manasseh. (Jos 17:7-13) The boundaries of Manasseh, The Canaanites not driven out. (Jos 17:14-18) Joseph desires a larger po...

Matthew Henry: Joshua (Book Introduction) An Exposition, with Practical Observations, of The Book of Joshua I. We have now before us the history of the Jewish nation in this book and those tha...

Matthew Henry: Joshua 17 (Chapter Introduction) The half tribe of Manasseh comes next to be provided for; and here we have, I. The families of that tribe that were to be portioned (Jos 17:1-6). ...

Constable: Joshua (Book Introduction) Introduction Title The name of this book in Hebrew, Greek, and English comes from the ...

Constable: Joshua (Outline) Outline I. The conquest of the land chs. 1-12 A. Preparations for entering Canaan chs. 1-2 ...

Constable: Joshua Joshua Bibliography Aharoni, Yohanan. "The Province-List of Judah." Vetus Testamentum 9 (1959):225-46. ...

Haydock: Joshua (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION. THE BOOK OF JOSUE. This book is called Josue , because it contains the history of what passed under him, and, according to the comm...

Gill: Joshua (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO JOSHUA The Jews distinguish the prophets into former and latter; the first of the former prophets is Joshua, or Sepher Joshua, the ...

Gill: Joshua 17 (Chapter Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO JOSHUA 17 This chapter gives an account of the lot that fell to the half tribe of Manasseh, to the male children of Manasseh, and t...

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