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Text -- Judges 8:18 (NET)
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For outward shape and quality.
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Wesley: Jdg 8:18 - -- Whither he understood they fled for shelter, upon the approach of the Midianites; and where he learned that some were slain, which he suspected might ...
Whither he understood they fled for shelter, upon the approach of the Midianites; and where he learned that some were slain, which he suspected might be them.
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Wesley: Jdg 8:18 - -- Not for their garb, or outward splendor, but for the majesty of their looks: by which commendation they thought to ingratiate themselves with their co...
Not for their garb, or outward splendor, but for the majesty of their looks: by which commendation they thought to ingratiate themselves with their conqueror.
JFB: Jdg 8:18 - -- This was one of the countless atrocities which the Midianite chiefs had perpetrated during their seven years' lawless occupancy. It is noticed now for...
This was one of the countless atrocities which the Midianite chiefs had perpetrated during their seven years' lawless occupancy. It is noticed now for the first time when their fate was about to be determined.
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JFB: Jdg 8:18 - -- An Orientalism for great beauty, majesty of appearance, uncommon strength, and grandeur of form.
An Orientalism for great beauty, majesty of appearance, uncommon strength, and grandeur of form.
Clarke -> Jdg 8:18
Clarke: Jdg 8:18 - -- What manner of men were they whom ye slew at Tabor? - We have no antecedent to this question; and are obliged to conjecture one: it seems as if Zeba...
What manner of men were they whom ye slew at Tabor? - We have no antecedent to this question; and are obliged to conjecture one: it seems as if Zebah and Zalmunna had massacred the family of Gideon, while he was absent on this expedition. Gideon had heard some confused account of it, and now questions them concerning the fact. They boldly acknowledge it, and describe the persons whom they slew, by which he found they were his own brethren. This determines him to avenge their death by slaying the Midianitish kings, whom he otherwise was inclined to save. He might have heard that his brethren had been taken prisoners, and might have hoped to have exchanged them for the kings now in his hand; but when he found they had been all slain, he decrees the death of their murderers. There is something in this account similar to that in the 12th Aeneis of Virgil: - When Turnus was overthrown, and supplicated for his life, and Aeneas was inclined to spare him; he saw the belt of his friend Pallas, whom Turnus had slain, and which he now wore as a trophy: this immediately determined the Trojan to sacrifice the life of Turnus to the manes of his friend. The story is well told: -
Stetit acer in armi
Aeneas, volvens oculos, dextramque repressit
Et jam jamque magis cunctantem flectere serm
Coeperat: infelix humero cum apparuit ingen
Balteus, et notis fulserunt cingula bulli
Pallantis pueri; victum quem vulnere Turnu
Straverat, atque humeris inimicum insigne gerebat
Ille oculis postquam saevi monumenta dolori
Exuviasque hausit: furiis accensus et ir
Terribilis: Tune hinc spoliis indute meoru
Eripiare mihi? - Pallas, te hoc vulnere Palla
Immolat; et poenam scelerato ex sanguine sumit
Hoc dicens furrum adverso sub pectore condit Fervidus.
Virg. Aen. lib. xii., ver. 938
"In deep suspense the Trojan seem’ d to stand
And, just prepared to strike, repress’ d his hand
He roll’ d his eyes, and every moment fel
His manly soul with more compassion melt
When, casting down a casual glance, he spie
The golden belt that glitter’ d on his side
The fatal spoils which haughty Turnus tor
From dying Pallas, and in triumph wore
Then roused anew to wrath, he loudly cries
(Flames, while he spoke, came flashing from his eyes)
Traitor! dost thou! dost thou to grace pretend
Clad, as thou art, in trophies of my friend? -
To his sad soul a grateful offering go
‘ Tis Pallas, Pallas gives this deadly blow
He rais’ d his arm aloft; and at the word
Deep in his bosom drove the shining sword.
Dryden
The same principle impels Gideon to slay Zebah and Zalmunna which induced Aeneas to kill Turnus: and perhaps the ornaments which he took from their camels’ necks, Jdg 8:21, were some of the spoils of his slaughtered brethren.
TSK -> Jdg 8:18
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Barnes -> Jdg 8:18
Barnes: Jdg 8:18 - -- What manner of men - literally, "Where are the men?"The sense, "what manner of men", is merely gathered from the tenor of the answer. Gideon do...
What manner of men - literally, "Where are the men?"The sense, "what manner of men", is merely gathered from the tenor of the answer. Gideon doubtless knew that his brethren had been killed by Zebah and Zalmunna, and the desire of avenging their death was one motive for his impetuous pursuit and attack. His question was rather a taunt, a bitter reproach to his captives, preparing them for their fate. Zebah and Zalmunna, in their answer, did not give evidence against themselves. Their hope was by a flattering answer to soothe Gideon’ s wrath.
Poole -> Jdg 8:18
Poole: Jdg 8:18 - -- What manner of men i.e. for outward shape and quality?
At Tabor whither he understood they fled for shelter, upon the approach of the Midianites; a...
What manner of men i.e. for outward shape and quality?
At Tabor whither he understood they fled for shelter, upon the approach of the Midianites; and where he learnt that some were slain, which he suspected might be they.
Each one resembled the children of a king not for their garb, or outward splendour, for the family was but mean; but for the majesty of their looks; by which commendation they thought to ingratiate themselves with their conqueror.
Haydock -> Jdg 8:18
Haydock: Jdg 8:18 - -- Thabor. Some of the relations or brothers of Gedeon had retired thither, as to a place of safety; and the latter wished to know what was become of t...
Thabor. Some of the relations or brothers of Gedeon had retired thither, as to a place of safety; and the latter wished to know what was become of them, that he might redeem them, if alive. (Calmet) ---
King. They answer with flattery, insinuating that Gedeon had the air of a king. (Menochius)
Gill -> Jdg 8:18
Gill: Jdg 8:18 - -- Then said he unto Zebah and Zalmunna,.... Not at Penuel or Succoth, but when he had brought them into the land of Canaan, and perhaps to his own city ...
Then said he unto Zebah and Zalmunna,.... Not at Penuel or Succoth, but when he had brought them into the land of Canaan, and perhaps to his own city Ophrah:
what manner of men were they whom ye slew at Tabor? Mount Tabor, to which these men had betaken and hid themselves, in some caves and dens there: see Jdg 6:2 and these kings some little time before the battle had taken them, and slew them, of which it seems Gideon had notice; and some of his brethren being not to be found, he suspected they were the persons, and therefore asked this question:
and they answered, as thou art, so were they; very much like him in countenance and stature, stout, able bodied men, of a graceful and majestic appearance. Abarbinel takes it to be a curse on Gideon, be thou, or thou shalt be, as they are; as they died by the hand of the Midianites, so shalt thou; but the former sense seems best, and agrees with what follows:
each one resembled the children of a king; being brought up in a delicate manner, as these persons seemed to have been: according to Jarchi and Kimchi, the sense is, they were like him, and had all one and the same form and lovely aspect, resembling kings' children; but according to Ben Gersom they were in general very much like Gideon, and one of them was like his children, who were then present, particularly his eldest son, as appears from Jdg 8:20. It is said in the Misnah a all the Israelites are the children of kings.
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TSK Synopsis -> Jdg 8:1-35
TSK Synopsis: Jdg 8:1-35 - --1 Gideon pacifies the Ephraimites.4 Succoth and Penuel refuse to deliver Gideon's army.10 Zebah and Zalmunna are taken.13 Succoth and Penuel are destr...
MHCC -> Jdg 8:18-21
MHCC: Jdg 8:18-21 - --The kings of Midian must be reckoned with. As they confessed themselves guilty of murder, Gideon acted as the avenger of blood, being the next of kin ...
Matthew Henry -> Jdg 8:18-21
Matthew Henry: Jdg 8:18-21 - -- Judgment began at the house of God, in the just correction of the men of Succoth and Penuel, who were Israelites, but it did not end there. The ki...
Keil-Delitzsch -> Jdg 8:13-21
Keil-Delitzsch: Jdg 8:13-21 - --
Punishment of the Towns of Succoth and Pnuel, and Execution of the Captures Kings of Midian.
Jdg 8:13-14
Gideon returned victorious from the war...
Constable -> Jdg 3:7--17:1; Jdg 6:1--10:6; Jdg 6:1--8:33; Jdg 8:1--16:31; Jdg 8:1--9:57; Jdg 8:18-21
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Constable: Jdg 6:1--10:6 - --D. The fourth apostasy 6:1-10:5
The writer of Judges structured this book so the story of Gideon would b...
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Constable: Jdg 6:1--8:33 - --1. The story of Gideon 6:1-8:32
Tanner also pointed out that the Gideon narrative consists of fi...
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Constable: Jdg 8:1--16:31 - --B. Present Failures vv. 8-16
Jude next expounded the errors of the false teachers in his day to warn his...
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Constable: Jdg 8:1--9:57 - --1. The nature of the error vv. 8-9
v. 8 Jude now pinpointed the three errors he had just illustrated and accused the false teachers of all three: lust...
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