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Text -- Obadiah 1:8 (NET)
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(Isa 49:7; compare Job 5:12-13; Isa 19:3; Jer 19:7).
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JFB: Oba 1:8 - -- Heretofore Edom, through its intercourse with Babylon and Egypt, and from its means of information through the many caravans passing to and fro betwee...
Heretofore Edom, through its intercourse with Babylon and Egypt, and from its means of information through the many caravans passing to and fro between Europe and India, has been famed for knowledge; but in that day at last ("even") I will destroy its wise men.
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That is, Idumea, which was a mountainous region.
Clarke -> Oba 1:8
Clarke: Oba 1:8 - -- Shall I not - destroy the wise men - It appears, from Jer 49:7, that the Edomites were remarkable for wisdom, counsel, and prudence. See on the abov...
Shall I not - destroy the wise men - It appears, from Jer 49:7, that the Edomites were remarkable for wisdom, counsel, and prudence. See on the above place.
Calvin -> Oba 1:8
Calvin: Oba 1:8 - -- We must now notice what the Prophet says, Shall I not in that day destroy the wise from Edom? Though men be in many respects blind, whom God guides...
We must now notice what the Prophet says, Shall I not in that day destroy the wise from Edom? Though men be in many respects blind, whom God guides not by his Spirit, and on whom he shines not with his word, yet the worst blindness is, when men become inebriated with the false conceit of wisdom. When therefore any one thinks himself endued with understanding, so that he can perceive whatever is needful, and that he cannot be circumvented, his wisdom is insanity and extreme madness: it would indeed be better for us to be idiots and fools than to be thus inebriated. Since then the wise of this world are insane, the Lord declares that they will have no wisdom when the time of trial comes. God indeed permits the ungodly for a long time to felicitate themselves on account of their own acumen and counsels, as he suffered the Idumeans to go on prosperously. And there are also many at this day who felicitate themselves on their successes, and almost adore their own cunning. Who indeed can persuade the Venetians that there is anywhere consummate wisdom but among themselves, by which, forsooth, they surpass all others in deception? For no other reason do they, amidst many agitations, retain their own position, except that they seem to see farther into what is for their own advantages; nay, that kings in general stand, and continue safe amidst so many shakings, this they ascribe to their own wisdom: “Except I had looked well in this respect to my own affairs, except I had anticipated danger, and except I had foreseen it, it would have been all over as to my condition.” Thus they think within themselves: but the Lord at length infatuates them, that it may be evident, that this was not formerly said in vain to the Idumeans, Shall I not in that day, saith Jehovah, etc. and it was emphatically added, in that day: for the Prophet means, that it was no wonder that the Idumeans had been hitherto wary and adopted the best counsel; for it was not the Lord’s purpose to deprive them of wisdom; but when the suitable time of vengeance came, he instantly took away whatever prudence there was in them; for it is indeed in God’s hand to take away whatever there is either of understanding or of acuteness in men.
But we are warned by these words, that if we excel in understanding, we are not to abuse this singular gift of God, as we see the case to be with the ungodly, who turn to cunning whatever wisdom the Lord has bestowed on them. There is hardly one in a hundred to be found, who does not seek to be crafty and deceitful, if he excels in understanding. This is a very wretched thing. What a great treasure is wisdom? Yet we see that the world perverts this excellent gift of God; the more reason there is for us to labor, that our wisdom should be founded in true simplicity. This is one thing. Then we must also beware of trusting in our own understanding, and of despising our enemies, and of thinking that we can ward off any evil that may impend over us; but let us ever seek from the Lord, that we may be favored at all times with the spirit of wisdom, that it may guide us to the end of life: for he can at any moment take from us whatever he has given us, and thus expose us to shame and reproach.
When he says, from mount Esau, he means mount Seir, as I have already reminded you. But he meant to point out their whole country; for they were almost surrounded by mountains, and dwelt, as it is well known, in that Arabia which is called Patraea. It follows —
TSK -> Oba 1:8
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Barnes -> Oba 1:8
Barnes: Oba 1:8 - -- Shall I not in that day even destroy the wise out of Edom? - It was then no common, no recoverable, loss of wisdom, for God, the Author of wisd...
Shall I not in that day even destroy the wise out of Edom? - It was then no common, no recoverable, loss of wisdom, for God, the Author of wisdom, had destroyed it. The pagan had a proverb, "whom God willeth to destroy, he first dements."So Isaiah foretells of Judah Isa 29:14, "The wisdom of their wise shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent shall be hid."Edom was celebrated of old for its wisdom. Eliphaz, the chief of Job’ s friends, the representative of human wisdom, was a Temanite Job 4:1. A vestige of the name of the Shuhites, from where came another of his friends, probably still lingers among the mountains of Edom. Edom is doubtless included among the "sons of the East"1Ki 4:30 whose wisdom is set as a counterpart to that of Egypt, the highest human wisdom of that period, by which that of Solomon would be measured. "Solomon’ s wisdom excelled the wisdom of all the children of the East country and all the wisdom of Egypt."In Baruch, they are still mentioned among the chief types of human wisdom (Bar. 3:22, 23). "It (wisdom) hath not been heard of in Chanaan, neither hath it been seen in Theman. The Agarenes that seek wisdom upon earth, the merchants of Meran and of Theman, the authors of fables and searchers-out of understanding, none of these have known, the way of wisdom, or remember her paths."
Whence, Jeremiah Jer 49:7, in using, these words of Obadiah, says: "Is wisdom no more in Teman? Is counsel perished from the prudent? Is their wisdom vanished?"He speaks, as though Edom were a known abode of human wisdom, so that it was strange that it was found there no more. He speaks of the Edomites "as prudent,"discriminating , full of judgment, and wonders that counsel should have "perished"from them. They had it eminently then, before it perished. They thought themselves wise; they were thought so; but God took it away at their utmost need. So He says of Egypt Isa 19:3, Isa 19:11-12. "I will destroy the counsel thereof. The counsel of the wise counselors of Pharaoh is become brutish. How say ye unto Pharaoh, I am the son of the wise, the son of ancient kings? Where are they? Who are thy wise? And let them tell thee now, and let them know, what the Lord of hosts hath purposed upon Egypt."And of Judah Jer 19:7. "I will make void the counsel of Judah and Jerusalem in this place."
The people of the world think that they hold their wisdom and all God’ s natural gifts, independently of the Giver (God). God, by the events of His natural Providence, as here by His word, shows, through some sudden withdrawal of their wisdom, that it is His, not their’ s! People wonder at the sudden failure, the flaw in the well-arranged plan, the one over-confident act which ruins the whole scheme, the over-shrewdness which betrays itself, or the unaccountable oversight. They are amazed that one so shrewd should overlook this or that, and think not that He, in whose hands are our powers of thought, supplied not just that insight, Whereon the whole depended.
Poole -> Oba 1:8
Poole: Oba 1:8 - -- Shall I not? this interrogation is a strong assertion, I certainly will.
In that day of war and desolation of Edom, when Nebuchadnezzar with his ar...
Shall I not? this interrogation is a strong assertion, I certainly will.
In that day of war and desolation of Edom, when Nebuchadnezzar with his armies shall invade Idumea.
Destroy either by war or sicknesses take the wise men out of Edom, they shall die; or deprive them of places of trust where they might help to save Edom; or else turn their wisdom into foolishness, as Ahithophel’ s was.
The wise men men of sound counsel and good conduct in the affairs of peace and war.
And understanding out of the mount of Esau an elegant ingemination for illustrating and confirming the prediction. All Edom shall miserably perish, not a wise man left to foresee and prevent it.
Haydock -> Oba 1:8
Esau. Job and Eliphaz were both from this country.
Gill -> Oba 1:8
Gill: Oba 1:8 - -- Shall I not in that day, saith the Lord, even destroy the wise men out of Edom,.... When they shall be invaded by the enemy, and treacherously dealt ...
Shall I not in that day, saith the Lord, even destroy the wise men out of Edom,.... When they shall be invaded by the enemy, and treacherously dealt with by their allies; so that there shall be no wise counsellors at court to give advice what proper methods should be taken at such a season; they should either be taken off by death, or their wisdom should be turned into folly, and they be rendered incapable of giving right counsel:
and understanding out of the mount of Esau? that is, men of understanding, as the Targum, should be destroyed out of Edom or Idumea, which was a mountainous country; such as were well versed in politics, or understood military affairs, and how to conduct at such a critical time; to form schemes, and concert measures, and wisely put them in execution; and to be deprived of all such must be a great loss at such a time, and add to their distress and calamity; see Jer 49:7.
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TSK Synopsis -> Obadiah
TSK Synopsis: Obadiah - --1 The destruction of Edom,3 for their pride,10 and for their wrong unto Jacob.17 The salvation and victory of Jacob.
MHCC -> Oba 1:1-16
MHCC: Oba 1:1-16 - --This prophecy is against Edom. Its destruction seems to have been typical, as their father Esau's rejection; and to refer to the destruction of the en...
Matthew Henry -> Oba 1:1-9
Matthew Henry: Oba 1:1-9 - -- Edom is the nation against which this prophecy is levelled, and which, some think, is put for all the enemies of Israel, that shall be brought down ...
Keil-Delitzsch -> Oba 1:8-9
Keil-Delitzsch: Oba 1:8-9 - --
"Does it not come to pass in that day, is the saying of Jehovah, that I destroy the wise men out of Edom, and discernment from the mountains of Esa...
Constable: Obadiah - --A. The Introduction to the Oracle v. 1
This verse contains the title of the book, the shortest title of ...
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Constable: Obadiah - --A. The Statement of the Charge v. 10
Pride was not the only reason God would humble Edom. The Edomites h...
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Constable: Oba 1:2--Jon 1:3 - --B. The Breaching of Edom's Defenses vv. 2-4
Verses 2-9 contain three sections, which the phrase "declares the Lord" marks off (vv. 4, 8).
v. 2 Yahweh ...
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Constable: Oba 1:5--Jon 1:6 - --C. The Plundering of Edom's Treasures vv. 5-7
vv. 5-6 Thieves robbed houses and grape pickers stripped vineyards, yet both left a little behind that t...
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