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Text -- Proverbs 25:20 (NET)

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25:20 Like one who takes off a garment on a cold day, or like vinegar poured on soda, so is one who sings songs to a heavy heart.
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Wesley: Pro 25:20 - -- Which dissolves the nitre, and makes it useless and ineffectual.

Which dissolves the nitre, and makes it useless and ineffectual.

JFB: Pro 25:20 - -- Not only is the incongruity of songs (that is, joyful) and sadness meant, but an accession of sadness, by want of sympathy, is implied.

Not only is the incongruity of songs (that is, joyful) and sadness meant, but an accession of sadness, by want of sympathy, is implied.

Clarke: Pro 25:20 - -- As vinegar upon nitre - The original word נתר nather is what is known among chemists as the natron of the ancients and of the Scriptures, and ...

As vinegar upon nitre - The original word נתר nather is what is known among chemists as the natron of the ancients and of the Scriptures, and carbonate of soda. It is found native in Syria and India, and occurs as an efflorescence on the soil. In Tripoli it is found in crystalline incrustations of from one third to half an inch thiek. It is found also in solution in the water of some lakes in Egypt and Hungary. The borders of these lakes are covered with crystalline masses, of a grayish white or light brown color; and in some specimens the natron is nearly pure carbonate of soda, and the carbonate is easily discovered by effervescing with an acid. It appears to have its Hebrew name from נתר nathar , to dissolve or loosen: because a solution of it in water is abstersive, taking out spots, etc. It is used in the East for the purposes of washing. If vinegar be poured on it, Dr. Shaw says a strong fermentation immediately takes place, which illustrates what Solomon says here: "The singing of songs to a heavy heart is like vinegar upon natron:"that is, "there is no affinity between them; and opposition, colluctation, and strife, are occasioned by any attempt to unite them."And poureth vyneper upon chalke - Coverdale. This also will occasion an effervescence. See Jer 2:22.

TSK: Pro 25:20 - -- that taketh : Deu 24:12-17; Job 24:7-10; Isa 58:7; Jam 2:15, Jam 2:16 vinegar : Pro 10:26 so : Psa 137:3, Psa 137:4; Ecc 3:4; Dan 6:18; Rom 12:15; Jam...

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Barnes: Pro 25:20 - -- Examples of unwisdom and incongruity sharpen the point of the proverb. Pouring vinegar upon nitre or potash utterly spoils it. The effervescence cau...

Examples of unwisdom and incongruity sharpen the point of the proverb. Pouring vinegar upon nitre or potash utterly spoils it. The effervescence caused by the mixture is perhaps taken as a type of the irritation produced by the "songs"sung out of season to a heavy heart.

The verb rendered "taketh away"may have the sense (as in Eze 16:11) of "adorning oneself,"and the illustration would then be, "as to put on a fine garment in time of cold is unseasonable, so is singing to a heavy heart."

Poole: Pro 25:20 - -- In cold weather when it is most seasonable and necessary. As vinegar upon nitre which dissolves the nitre, and makes it useless and ineffectual. S...

In cold weather when it is most seasonable and necessary.

As vinegar upon nitre which dissolves the nitre, and makes it useless and ineffectual.

So is he he is no less absurd and impertinent,

that singeth songs to an heavy heart whose grief is not relieved, but increased by it, as common experience showeth, and divers learned authors have observed.

Haydock: Pro 25:20 - -- And. Protestants, "as he that taketh away a, &c., and as vinegar....to a heavy heart." (Haydock) --- The former sentence may be joined with the ...

And. Protestants, "as he that taketh away a, &c., and as vinegar....to a heavy heart." (Haydock) ---

The former sentence may be joined with the preceding, as it is improper to deprive a person of his garment, no less than to trust in the faithless; though some would suppose (Calmet) that this conduct, as well as the mixing of vinegar with nitre, is no less absurd than to attempt to relieve by music those who are extremely afflicted, Ecclesiasticus xxii. 6. (Tirinus) ---

But Solomon does not speak of such, but only of those who are "heavy;" and we know that music has wonderful efficacy in relieving them, (1 Kings xvi. 17.) in like manner as this mixture serves to cleanse the skin and garments, (Jeremias ii. 22.; Calmet) and to purify the ears, when they are deafish. (Pliny, [Natural History?] xxxi. 10.; Vales. lx.) ---

As a, &c., is not in Hebrew, St. Jerome, &c. (Calmet) ---

The Chaldean has the latter part, (Haydock) "grief tries the heart, as fire does silver. As the worm eats wood, so folly," &c. (Calmet)

Gill: Pro 25:20 - -- As he that taketh away a garment in cold weather,.... Either takes it off of himself, or another person, when it would be rather more proper to put a...

As he that taketh away a garment in cold weather,.... Either takes it off of himself, or another person, when it would be rather more proper to put another garment on, and so is exposed to the injury of cold weather;

and as vinegar upon nitre: nitre was found in Egypt, beyond Memphis, as Strabo says p; there were two mines of nitre, which produced much, and thence it was called the Nitriotic Nome: others say, nitre has its name from Nitria, a town in Egypt q, which gives name to the Nitrian desert, where there is a lake called Latron; from the bottom of which, that sort of nitre, called Natron, arises to the top, as is apprehended, and there, by the heat of the sun, condenses into this kind of substance r, which will react with an acid; and so vinegar poured upon it will irritate and disturb it, cause it to react, and make a noise and a hissing. This must be understood only of this sort of nitre, of the nitre of the ancients; not of the moderns, which is no other than saltpetre; for though this will ferment with vinegar, saltpetre will not s: nitre is dissolved by a liquid, but not any, only that which is cold, as Aristotle observes t, as is vinegar; and therefore, with great propriety, this is joined to what goes before;

so is he that singeth songs to a heavy heart; rather distresses and afflicts him the more; as he cannot sing himself, he cannot bear to hear others sing; such rather should be condoled and wept with than to have songs sung to them. Some understand the words in a sense the reverse; the word rendered taketh away, in the first clause, has the signification of adorning with a garment; hence they render it, "as he that putteth on a garment u for ornament in cold weather, and as vinegar to nitre, so is he that singeth songs to a heavy heart"; that is, as an additional garment drives away cold, and vinegar dissolves nitre, so singing songs to a heavy hearted man drives away sorrow; as in the case of Saul, such an effect had music on him, 1Sa 16:21; or rather, to put on a thin garment for ornament in cold weather is as absurd and unseasonable as to put vinegar to nitre, or to a wound, as Schultens, and to sing songs to a heavy heart; all absurd.

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Commentary -- Verse Notes / Footnotes

NET Notes: Pro 25:20 It is inappropriate and counterproductive to sing songs to a heavy heart. One needs to be sensitive to others (e.g., 1 Sam 19:9).

Geneva Bible: Pro 25:20 [As] he that taketh away a garment in cold weather, [and as] vinegar upon ( o ) soda, so [is] he that singeth songs to an heavy heart. ( o ) Which me...

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Commentary -- Verse Range Notes

TSK Synopsis: Pro 25:1-28 - --1 Observations about kings,8 and about avoiding causes of quarrels, and sundry causes thereof.

MHCC: Pro 25:20 - --We take a wrong course if we think to relieve those in sorrow by endeavouring to make them merry.

Matthew Henry: Pro 25:20 - -- 1. The absurdity here censured is singing songs to a heavy heart. Those that are in great sorrow are to be comforted by sympathizing with them, co...

Keil-Delitzsch: Pro 25:18-22 - -- This group of proverbs has the word רע in each of them, connecting them together. The first of the group represents a false tongue: Pro 25:18 1...

Constable: Pro 25:1--29:27 - --IV. MAXIMS EXPRESSING WISDOM chs. 25--29 We return now to the proverbs of Solomon (cf. 1:1-22:16). Chapters 25-2...

Constable: Pro 25:1-28 - --1. Wise and foolish conduct ch. 25 25:1 A group of scholars who served during King Hezekiah's reign (715-686 B.C.) added more of Solomon's 3,000 prove...

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Introduction / Outline

JFB: Proverbs (Book Introduction) THE NATURE AND USE OF PROVERBS.--A proverb is a pithy sentence, concisely expressing some well-established truth susceptible of various illustrations ...

TSK: Proverbs (Book Introduction) The wisdom of all ages, from the highest antiquity, has chosen to compress and communicate its lessons in short, compendious sentences, and in poetic ...

TSK: Proverbs 25 (Chapter Introduction) Overview Pro 25:1, Observations about kings, Pro 25:8, and about avoiding causes of quarrels, and sundry causes thereof.

MHCC: Proverbs (Book Introduction) The subject of this book may be thus stated by an enlargement on the opening verses. 1. The Proverbs of Solomon, the son of David, king of Israel. 2. ...

Matthew Henry: Proverbs (Book Introduction) An Exposition, With Practical Observations, of The Proverbs We have now before us, I. A new author, or penman rather, or pen (if you will) made use o...

Constable: Proverbs (Book Introduction) Introduction Title The title of this book in the Hebrew Bible is "The Proverbs of Solo...

Constable: Proverbs (Outline) Outline I. Discourses on wisdom chs. 1-9 A. Introduction to the book 1:1-7 ...

Constable: Proverbs Proverbs Bibliography Aitken, Kenneth T. Proverbs. Philadelphia: Westminster Press, 1986. Alden...

Haydock: Proverbs (Book Introduction) THE BOOK OF PROVERBS. INTRODUCTION. This book is so called, because it consists of wise and weighty sentences, regulating the morals of men; and...

Gill: Proverbs (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO PROVERBS This book is called, in some printed Hebrew copies, "Sepher Mishle", the Book of Proverbs; the title of it in the Vulgate ...

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