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Text -- Proverbs 8:24 (NET)

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8:24 When there were no deep oceans I was born, when there were no springs overflowing with water;
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Dictionary Themes and Topics: Wisdom | WISDOM OF SOLOMON, THE | Personification | PROVERBS, THE BOOK OF | MEDIATION; MEDIATOR | LOGOS | Jesus, The Christ | God | Earth | Deep, The | ABOUND; ABUNDANCE; ABUNDANT; ABUNDANTLY | more
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Wesley , JFB , Clarke , Defender , TSK

Word/Phrase Notes
Barnes , Poole , Haydock , Gill

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TSK Synopsis , MHCC , Matthew Henry , Keil-Delitzsch , Constable

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Commentary -- Word/Phrase Notes (per phrase)

Wesley: Pro 8:24 - -- No abyss or deep waters.

No abyss or deep waters.

Wesley: Pro 8:24 - -- Begotten of my father.

Begotten of my father.

JFB: Pro 8:24 - -- (Compare Psa 90:2).

(Compare Psa 90:2).

JFB: Pro 8:24 - -- Or, "laden with water."

Or, "laden with water."

Clarke: Pro 8:24 - -- When there were no depths - תהמות tehomoth , before the original chaotic mass was formed. See Gen 1:2

When there were no depths - תהמות tehomoth , before the original chaotic mass was formed. See Gen 1:2

Clarke: Pro 8:24 - -- I was brought forth - חוללתי cholalti , "I was produced as by laboring throes."Mr. Parkhurst thinks that the heathen poets derived their idea...

I was brought forth - חוללתי cholalti , "I was produced as by laboring throes."Mr. Parkhurst thinks that the heathen poets derived their idea of Minerva’ s (wisdom’ s) being born of Jupiter’ s brain, from some such high poetic personification as that in the text.

Defender: Pro 8:24 - -- "Depths" is the same word as "deep;" this is a reference to the primeval "fountains of the great deep," which provided the antediluvian water supply b...

"Depths" is the same word as "deep;" this is a reference to the primeval "fountains of the great deep," which provided the antediluvian water supply before they were "broken up" at the Flood (Gen 7:11).

Defender: Pro 8:24 - -- Another reference to the eternal generation of the Son. He was before the earth, or anything."

Another reference to the eternal generation of the Son. He was before the earth, or anything."

TSK: Pro 8:24 - -- I was : Psa 2:7; Joh 1:14, Joh 3:16, Joh 5:20; Heb 1:5; 1Jo 4:9

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Commentary -- Word/Phrase Notes (per Verse)

Barnes: Pro 8:24 - -- Compare Gen. 1; Job 22; Job 26:1-14; 38: A world of waters, "great deeps"lying in darkness, this was the picture of the remotest time of which man c...

Compare Gen. 1; Job 22; Job 26:1-14; 38: A world of waters, "great deeps"lying in darkness, this was the picture of the remotest time of which man could form any conception, and yet the co-existence of the uncreated Wisdom with the eternal Yahweh was before that.

Poole: Pro 8:24 - -- No depths no abyss or deep waters, either mixed with the earth, as they were at first, or separated from it. Brought forth begotten of my Father...

No depths no abyss or deep waters, either mixed with the earth, as they were at first, or separated from it.

Brought forth begotten of my Father’ s essence.

Haydock: Pro 8:24 - -- Conceived. Having yet manifested none of my works. Since the creation, wisdom only seeks to communicate itself to us. (Calmet)

Conceived. Having yet manifested none of my works. Since the creation, wisdom only seeks to communicate itself to us. (Calmet)

Gill: Pro 8:24 - -- When there were no depths, I was brought forth,.... Not only in the decree of God, as the head of the elect; foreordained to be the Redeemer of them,...

When there were no depths, I was brought forth,.... Not only in the decree of God, as the head of the elect; foreordained to be the Redeemer of them, and to be the propitiation for their sins; and appointed the Judge of the world, and heir of all things; but "was begotten", as the Targum and Syriac version; the Septuagint is, "he begot me"; and so it is to be understood of the eternal generation and sonship of Christ; for the word חוללתי is used of generation, Job 15:7. Christ is the firstborn of every creature, begotten, born, and brought forth before any creature was in being; see Psa 2:7; before the depths of the great sea were formed, for they were made by him, Psa 95:1; when there were no depths, but the infinite being and perfections of God, and the thoughts and purposes of his heart, which are his deep things, Job 11:7;

when there were no fountains abounding with water; or "heavy", or "honoured" k with it; when the fountains of the great deep were not; and when there were no other fountains which form rivers, and water the earth; when there were none but God the fountain of living waters; then was Christ as the only begotten son of God; and who was also set up as the fountain of all grace, life, and salvation for his people.

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Commentary -- Verse Notes / Footnotes

NET Notes: Pro 8:24 Heb “made heavy.”

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Commentary -- Verse Range Notes

TSK Synopsis: Pro 8:1-36 - --1 The fame,6 and evidence of wisdom.10 The excellency,12 the nature,15 the power,18 the riches,22 and the eternity of wisdom.32 Wisdom is to be desire...

MHCC: Pro 8:22-31 - --The Son of God declares himself to have been engaged in the creation of the world. How able, how fit is the Son of God to be the Saviour of the world,...

Matthew Henry: Pro 8:22-31 - -- That it is an intelligent and divine person that here speaks seems very plain, and that it is not meant of a mere essential property of the divine n...

Keil-Delitzsch: Pro 8:24-26 - -- This her existence before the world began is now set forth in yet more explicit statements: 24 "When there were as yet no floods was I brought fort...

Constable: Pro 1:1--9:18 - --I. DISCOURSES ON WISDOM chs. 1--9 Verse one introduces both the book as a whole and chapters 1-9 in particular. ...

Constable: Pro 8:1--9:18 - --C. The Value of Wisdom and Wise Conduct chs. 8-9 Solomon explained the value of wisdom in many ways alre...

Constable: Pro 8:1-36 - --1. The function of wisdom ch. 8 Chapter 8 is an apology (defense) of wisdom. The argument of thi...

Constable: Pro 8:22-31 - --Wisdom and creation 8:22-31 As Creator, God counted wisdom most important. Wisdom is old...

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Commentary -- Other

Critics Ask: Pro 8:24 PROVERBS 8:22-31 —Who is referred to as “wisdom” in these verses? PROBLEM: Many commentators have claimed that the person identified as wis...

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Introduction / Outline

JFB: Proverbs (Book Introduction) THE NATURE AND USE OF PROVERBS.--A proverb is a pithy sentence, concisely expressing some well-established truth susceptible of various illustrations ...

TSK: Proverbs (Book Introduction) The wisdom of all ages, from the highest antiquity, has chosen to compress and communicate its lessons in short, compendious sentences, and in poetic ...

TSK: Proverbs 8 (Chapter Introduction) Overview Pro 8:1, The fame, Pro 8:6, and evidence of wisdom; Pro 8:10, The excellency, Pro 8:12, the nature, Pro 8:15, the power, Pro 8:18, the ri...

Poole: Proverbs 8 (Chapter Introduction) CHAPTER 8 Wisdom’ s fame, call, and exhortation, Pro 8:1-9 . Her excellency, nature, and hatred of evil, Pro 8:10-13 . Her power, Pro 8:14-16 ...

MHCC: Proverbs (Book Introduction) The subject of this book may be thus stated by an enlargement on the opening verses. 1. The Proverbs of Solomon, the son of David, king of Israel. 2. ...

MHCC: Proverbs 8 (Chapter Introduction) (Pro 8:1-11) Christ, as Wisdom, calls to the sons of men. (Pro 8:12-21) The nature and riches of Wisdom. (Pro 8:22-31) Christ one with the Father, i...

Matthew Henry: Proverbs (Book Introduction) An Exposition, With Practical Observations, of The Proverbs We have now before us, I. A new author, or penman rather, or pen (if you will) made use o...

Matthew Henry: Proverbs 8 (Chapter Introduction) The word of God is two-fold, and, in both senses, is wisdom; for a word without wisdom is of little value, and wisdom without a word is of little u...

Constable: Proverbs (Book Introduction) Introduction Title The title of this book in the Hebrew Bible is "The Proverbs of Solo...

Constable: Proverbs (Outline) Outline I. Discourses on wisdom chs. 1-9 A. Introduction to the book 1:1-7 ...

Constable: Proverbs Proverbs Bibliography Aitken, Kenneth T. Proverbs. Philadelphia: Westminster Press, 1986. Alden...

Haydock: Proverbs (Book Introduction) THE BOOK OF PROVERBS. INTRODUCTION. This book is so called, because it consists of wise and weighty sentences, regulating the morals of men; and...

Gill: Proverbs (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO PROVERBS This book is called, in some printed Hebrew copies, "Sepher Mishle", the Book of Proverbs; the title of it in the Vulgate ...

Gill: Proverbs 8 (Chapter Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO PROVERBS 8 This chapter contains the instructions of Wisdom or Christ; showing the excellency of them, and the author of them, in o...

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