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Text -- Proverbs 8:30 (NET)

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8:30 then I was beside him as a master craftsman, and I was his delight day by day, rejoicing before him at all times,
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Dictionary Themes and Topics: Wisdom | WORKER; WORKFELLOW; WORKMAN | WISDOM OF SOLOMON, THE | Personification | PROVERBS, THE BOOK OF | Master Workman | MEDIATION; MEDIATOR | LOGOS | Jesus, The Christ | God | DELIGHT | more
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JFB: Pro 8:30-31 - -- An object of special and pleasing regard. The bestowal of wisdom on men is represented by its finding a delightful residence and pleasing God.

An object of special and pleasing regard. The bestowal of wisdom on men is represented by its finding a delightful residence and pleasing God.

Clarke: Pro 8:30 - -- Then I was with him, as one brought up - אמון amon , a nursling, a darling child. Wisdom continues its parable, says Calmet; and represents its...

Then I was with him, as one brought up - אמון amon , a nursling, a darling child. Wisdom continues its parable, says Calmet; and represents itself as a new-born child which is ever near its parent, and takes pleasure to see him act, and to sport in his presence. This is poetical and highly figurative; and they who think they find the deity of Jesus Christ in these metaphors should be very cautious how they apply such terms as these; so that while they are endeavoring to defend the truth, they may do nothing against the truth, in which most of them unhappily fail

Clarke: Pro 8:30 - -- Rejoicing always before him - All the images in this verse are borrowed from the state and circumstances of a darling, affectionate, playful child; ...

Rejoicing always before him - All the images in this verse are borrowed from the state and circumstances of a darling, affectionate, playful child; as any one will be convinced who examines the Hebrew text.

Defender: Pro 8:30 - -- Presumably this is a reference to the joyful fellowship within the Godhead, dating from eternity past, and expressed outwardly in the great work of cr...

Presumably this is a reference to the joyful fellowship within the Godhead, dating from eternity past, and expressed outwardly in the great work of creation."

TSK: Pro 8:30 - -- one : Joh 1:1-3, Joh 1:18, Joh 16:28 I was daily : Isa 42:1; Mat 3:17, Mat 17:5; Joh 12:28; Col 1:13

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Barnes: Pro 8:30 - -- As one brought up with him - i. e., As his foster child. Others take the word in the original in another sense, "I was as his artificer,"a rend...

As one brought up with him - i. e., As his foster child. Others take the word in the original in another sense, "I was as his artificer,"a rendering which falls in best with the special point of the whole passage, the creative energy of Wisdom. Compare Wisdom Pro 7:21, Pro 7:22.

Daily - Heb. "day by day."As the Creator rejoiced in His workmanship Gen 1:4, Gen 1:10, Gen 1:12-13, so Wisdom rejoiced in the exuberance of her might and strength.

Poole: Pro 8:30 - -- By him conversant with him, and united to him, as was said before. As one brought up with him as one tenderly and dearly beloved by him. Rejoicing...

By him conversant with him, and united to him, as was said before.

As one brought up with him as one tenderly and dearly beloved by him.

Rejoicing always before him he and I had constant, and intimate, and sweet converse together.

Haydock: Pro 8:30 - -- Forming. Hebrew, "one nursed," (Calmet) or nursing, nutritius. (Pagnin) --- He was not an idle spectator. --- Playing. With ease and surprisi...

Forming. Hebrew, "one nursed," (Calmet) or nursing, nutritius. (Pagnin) ---

He was not an idle spectator. ---

Playing. With ease and surprising variety. (Calmet)

Gill: Pro 8:30 - -- Then I was by him, as one brought up with him,.... He was then, and from all eternity, "by him", or "with him" q; which denotes his co-existence wit...

Then I was by him, as one brought up with him,.... He was then, and from all eternity, "by him", or "with him" q; which denotes his co-existence with God, and his relation to him as his Father; his nearness to him, his equality with him, and his distinction from him: he was by him when the names of God's elect were put down in the book of life; he was by him and with him in the council and covenant of grace and peace; and so in the creation of all things, and has been ever since; not as a onlooker, but as a party concerned; and not as subordinate and inferior to his Father, but equal with him. The word אמון, translated "brought up", is differently rendered; Symmachus and Theodotion render it "strengthened"; as Christ was set up in his mediatorial office, he was strengthened in it by his Father; and was in his view, council, and covenant, the man of his right hand, made strong for himself: the Targum renders it "faithful", so the Tigurine version; as Christ was to him that appointed him, faithful to all he promised and was intrusted with. Many translate it an "artificer" or "workman" r, as אמן in Son 7:1; and so Christ was a co-worker, a worker with God in the making of all things, the heavens, earth, and sea, and all in there; not as an instrument, but as a co-efficient cause of them; which is a proof of his proper deity, and equality with God. But others think the word has the sense of nursing, or being nursed, educated, or brought up. Some s take it actively, as in Rth 4:16, Est 2:7; and interpret it of Christ's nursing the creation, or cherishing, supporting, and preserving all creatures in their being when made; particularly of his nourishing and cherishing the church and people of God committed to his care. Others t passively, of his being "brought up", as our version; and so the Latin interpreter of the Targum renders it "nursed up at his side"; which expresses the tender regard of his Father to him, as his begotten Son; in whose bosom he lay and was bore, as a nursing father bears his son in his bosom, Num 11:12; and by whom, as Mediator, he was trained up in the performance of his office;

and I was daily his delight; or "delights" u; exceeding delightful to him. The Father loved the Son from all eternity, with a love of complacency and delight, Joh 17:24; this delight was founded in relation to him, in sonship; and in likeness, he being the express image of his person; in sameness of nature, he being of the same nature and perfections with his Father: and he delighted in him as a workman, in the works which he did, being the same he saw him do; and in him as Mediator, in his constitution as such, and in engaging as a surety, to obey and suffer in the stead of his people, Isa 42:1; he not only delighted in him day by day, throughout the six days of the creation, when he was by him as a workman, but before, and even from the days of eternity; from the date of his commencement as Mediator; in the foreviews of his human nature, obeying and suffering in it; and of the salvation of the elect by him, and of his own glory in it;

rejoicing always before him; being always in his presence, and acceptable to him; rejoicing in having the same nature and perfections with him, and in the relation he stood in to him; and also in the view of the works of creation and redemption he would be jointly concerned in with him; which joy always did and ever will continue. There is a mutual pleasure and delight which the Father and Son have in each other, and in all that they are concerned; and especially in what respects the salvation of the chosen people. The allusion in the word used in this clause is to children's playing in the presence of their parents; which is a diversion to the one, and a pleasure to the other.

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Commentary -- Verse Notes / Footnotes

NET Notes: Pro 8:30 The word is a plural of intensification for “delight”; it describes wisdom as the object of delight. The LXX has the suffix; the Hebrew do...

Geneva Bible: Pro 8:30 Then I was by him, ( m ) [as] one brought up [with him]: and I was daily [his] delight, rejoicing always before him; ( m ) Some read, a chief worker ...

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TSK Synopsis: Pro 8:1-36 - --1 The fame,6 and evidence of wisdom.10 The excellency,12 the nature,15 the power,18 the riches,22 and the eternity of wisdom.32 Wisdom is to be desire...

Maclaren: Pro 8:30-31 - --Wisdom And Christ Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him; 31, Rejoicing in the habit...

MHCC: Pro 8:22-31 - --The Son of God declares himself to have been engaged in the creation of the world. How able, how fit is the Son of God to be the Saviour of the world,...

Matthew Henry: Pro 8:22-31 - -- That it is an intelligent and divine person that here speaks seems very plain, and that it is not meant of a mere essential property of the divine n...

Keil-Delitzsch: Pro 8:28-31 - -- In Pro 8:28, Pro 8:29, these two features of the figure of the creation of the world return (the beginning of the firmament, and the embankment of t...

Constable: Pro 1:1--9:18 - --I. DISCOURSES ON WISDOM chs. 1--9 Verse one introduces both the book as a whole and chapters 1-9 in particular. ...

Constable: Pro 8:1--9:18 - --C. The Value of Wisdom and Wise Conduct chs. 8-9 Solomon explained the value of wisdom in many ways alre...

Constable: Pro 8:1-36 - --1. The function of wisdom ch. 8 Chapter 8 is an apology (defense) of wisdom. The argument of thi...

Constable: Pro 8:22-31 - --Wisdom and creation 8:22-31 As Creator, God counted wisdom most important. Wisdom is old...

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Commentary -- Other

Critics Ask: Pro 8:30 PROVERBS 8:22-31 —Who is referred to as “wisdom” in these verses? PROBLEM: Many commentators have claimed that the person identified as wis...

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Introduction / Outline

JFB: Proverbs (Book Introduction) THE NATURE AND USE OF PROVERBS.--A proverb is a pithy sentence, concisely expressing some well-established truth susceptible of various illustrations ...

TSK: Proverbs (Book Introduction) The wisdom of all ages, from the highest antiquity, has chosen to compress and communicate its lessons in short, compendious sentences, and in poetic ...

TSK: Proverbs 8 (Chapter Introduction) Overview Pro 8:1, The fame, Pro 8:6, and evidence of wisdom; Pro 8:10, The excellency, Pro 8:12, the nature, Pro 8:15, the power, Pro 8:18, the ri...

Poole: Proverbs 8 (Chapter Introduction) CHAPTER 8 Wisdom’ s fame, call, and exhortation, Pro 8:1-9 . Her excellency, nature, and hatred of evil, Pro 8:10-13 . Her power, Pro 8:14-16 ...

MHCC: Proverbs (Book Introduction) The subject of this book may be thus stated by an enlargement on the opening verses. 1. The Proverbs of Solomon, the son of David, king of Israel. 2. ...

MHCC: Proverbs 8 (Chapter Introduction) (Pro 8:1-11) Christ, as Wisdom, calls to the sons of men. (Pro 8:12-21) The nature and riches of Wisdom. (Pro 8:22-31) Christ one with the Father, i...

Matthew Henry: Proverbs (Book Introduction) An Exposition, With Practical Observations, of The Proverbs We have now before us, I. A new author, or penman rather, or pen (if you will) made use o...

Matthew Henry: Proverbs 8 (Chapter Introduction) The word of God is two-fold, and, in both senses, is wisdom; for a word without wisdom is of little value, and wisdom without a word is of little u...

Constable: Proverbs (Book Introduction) Introduction Title The title of this book in the Hebrew Bible is "The Proverbs of Solo...

Constable: Proverbs (Outline) Outline I. Discourses on wisdom chs. 1-9 A. Introduction to the book 1:1-7 ...

Constable: Proverbs Proverbs Bibliography Aitken, Kenneth T. Proverbs. Philadelphia: Westminster Press, 1986. Alden...

Haydock: Proverbs (Book Introduction) THE BOOK OF PROVERBS. INTRODUCTION. This book is so called, because it consists of wise and weighty sentences, regulating the morals of men; and...

Gill: Proverbs (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO PROVERBS This book is called, in some printed Hebrew copies, "Sepher Mishle", the Book of Proverbs; the title of it in the Vulgate ...

Gill: Proverbs 8 (Chapter Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO PROVERBS 8 This chapter contains the instructions of Wisdom or Christ; showing the excellency of them, and the author of them, in o...

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