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Text -- Zechariah 12:11 (NET)

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12:11 On that day the lamentation in Jerusalem will be as great as the lamentation at Hadad-Rimmon in the plain of Megiddo.
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Names, People and Places, Dictionary Themes and Topics

Names, People and Places:
 · Hadad-Rimmon a false god of the Phoenicians and Syrians
 · Hadad-rimmon a false god of the Phoenicians and Syrians
 · Jerusalem the capital city of Israel,a town; the capital of Israel near the southern border of Benjamin
 · Megiddo a town and a plain of Manasseh


Dictionary Themes and Topics: ZECHARIAH, BOOK OF | VALE, VALLEY | SYRIANS | PALESTINE, 3 | Mourn | Megiddo | MESSIAH | MEGIDDO; MEGIDDON | Levites | LAMENTATIONS, BOOK OF | Josiah | JUDAH, KINGDOM OF | Israel | Hadadrimmon | HADAD | EZEKIEL, 2 | CHAMPAIGN | BURDEN | ADADRIMMON | more
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Commentary -- Word/Phrase Notes (per phrase)

Wesley: Zec 12:11 - -- When the Jews shall mourn for their sins, and for that great sin, crucifying the Lord of glory.

When the Jews shall mourn for their sins, and for that great sin, crucifying the Lord of glory.

Wesley: Zec 12:11 - -- A mourning exprest by the greatest the Jews ever were acquainted with, and which for its greatness grew into a proverb. The mourning for Josiah slain ...

A mourning exprest by the greatest the Jews ever were acquainted with, and which for its greatness grew into a proverb. The mourning for Josiah slain at Hadadrimmon, a town in the valley of Megiddo.

JFB: Zec 12:11 - -- As in Zec 12:10 the bitterness of their mourning is illustrated by a private case of mourning, so in this verse by a public one, the greatest recorded...

As in Zec 12:10 the bitterness of their mourning is illustrated by a private case of mourning, so in this verse by a public one, the greatest recorded in Jewish history, that for the violent death in battle with Pharaoh-necho of the good King Josiah, whose reign had been the only gleam of brightness for the period from Hezekiah to the downfall of the state; lamentations were written by Jeremiah for the occasion (2Ki 23:29-30; 2Ch 35:22-27).

JFB: Zec 12:11 - -- A place or city in the great plain of Esdraelon, the battlefield of many a conflict, near Megiddo; called so from the Syrian idol Rimmon. Hadad also w...

A place or city in the great plain of Esdraelon, the battlefield of many a conflict, near Megiddo; called so from the Syrian idol Rimmon. Hadad also was the name of the sun, a chief god of the Syrians [MACROBIUS, Saturnalia, 1.23]. A universal and an individual mourning at once.

Clarke: Zec 12:11 - -- A great mourning - A universal repentance

A great mourning - A universal repentance

Clarke: Zec 12:11 - -- As the mourning of Hadadrimmon - They shall mourn as deeply for the crucified Christ as their forefathers did for the death of Josiah, who was slain...

As the mourning of Hadadrimmon - They shall mourn as deeply for the crucified Christ as their forefathers did for the death of Josiah, who was slain at Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon. See 2Ch 35:24, 2Ch 35:25.

Calvin: Zec 12:11 - -- The Prophet says nearly the same thing to the end of the chapter; but as the event was worthy of being commemorated, he embellishes it with many figu...

The Prophet says nearly the same thing to the end of the chapter; but as the event was worthy of being commemorated, he embellishes it with many figurative terms. He then says, that the lamentation for the death of Christ would be like that after the death of Josiah; for they who would have Hadadrimmon to be a man’s name, have no reason for what they hold, and indulge themselves in mere conjecture. It is indeed agreed almost by all that Hadadrimmon was either a town connected with the plain of Megiddon, or a country near Jezreel. But as to what it was, it is a matter of no great consequence. I indeed believe that Hadadrimmon was a neighboring town, or a part of that country in which was situated the plain of Megiddon. 165

We may now observe, that this comparison which the Prophet institutes is very apposite; for when Josiah was slain by the King of Egypt, it is said in 2Ch 35:25, that an yearly lamentation was appointed. The Jews then were wont every year to lament the death of Josiah; for from that time it was evident that God was so displeased with the people, that they had no longer any hope of deliverance; nay, Jeremiah in his mournful song had special reference to Josiah, as it appears from sacred history. And, among other things, he says, that Christ our Lord, in whose life lived our life, was slain for our sins. Jeremiah then acknowledges that it was a special proof of God’s vengeance, that that pious king was taken away, and that the Jews were thus as it were forsaken, and became afterwards like a dead body, inasmuch as they only breathed in the life of Josiah: and at the same time he reminds us, that the kingdom, which God had intended to be the type and image of the kingdom of Christ, had as it were ceased to exist; for the successor of Josiah was deprived of all royal honor, and at length not only the whole dignity, but also the safety of the people, were trampled under foot. Hence, most fitly does the Prophet apply this lamentation to the death of Christ; as though he had said, — That the Jews lamented yearly the death of Josiah, because it was an evidence of the dreadful vengeance of God that they were deprived of that pious ruler; and that now there would be a similar lamentation, when they perceived that their light of salvation was extinguished, because they had crucified the Son of God, unless they humbly acknowledged their great wickedness, and obtained pardon.

We now then see the true meaning of the Prophet, when he says, that the lamentation in Jerusalem would be like that in Megiddon.

Were any to object and say, that the death of Christ was not accompanied with tears and mourning; I answer, — that the penitence of believers only is here described; for we know that a few only of the whole people were converted to God: but it is not to be wondered that the Prophet speaks generally of the whole nation, though he referred only to the elect of God and a small remnant; for God regarded those few who repented as the whole race of Abraham. Some mention the women of whom Luke speaks; but this seems too confined and strained: and we find also that that lamentation was forbidden by Christ,

“Weep,” he says, “for yourselves and for your children,
not for me.” (Luk 23:28.)

Since then Christ shows that that weeping was vain and useless, we may surely say that what is here said by Zechariah was not then fulfilled. And we must bear in mind what I have said before, — that by lamentation and sorrow is described that repentance with which the Jews were favored, not indeed all, but such as had been ordained to salvation by the gratuitous adoption of God. It follows —

Defender: Zec 12:11 - -- When their national age-long sin is finally recognized and confessed, there will indeed be "great mourning," but also great joy (Zep 3:14-20).

When their national age-long sin is finally recognized and confessed, there will indeed be "great mourning," but also great joy (Zep 3:14-20).

Defender: Zec 12:11 - -- Hadadrimmon was a town in the valley of Megiddo (same as Armageddon). The last of the godly kings of Israel and Judah, good King Josiah, was slain by ...

Hadadrimmon was a town in the valley of Megiddo (same as Armageddon). The last of the godly kings of Israel and Judah, good King Josiah, was slain by the Egyptian army at Megiddo (2Ch 35:20-25), and there was great mourning. There may also be a possible suggestion of great mourning at Armageddon over the multitudes slain there when Christ returns (Rev 14:14-20)."

TSK: Zec 12:11 - -- as : 2Ki 23:29; 2Ch 35:24

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Commentary -- Word/Phrase Notes (per Verse)

Barnes: Zec 12:11 - -- As the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon - This was the greatest sorrow, which had fallen on Judah. Josiah was the last hope of...

As the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon - This was the greatest sorrow, which had fallen on Judah. Josiah was the last hope of its declining kingdom. His sons probably showed already their unlikeness to their father, whereby they precipitated their country’ s fall. in Josiah’ s death the last gleam of the sunset of Judah faded into night. Of him it is recorded, that "his pious acts, according to what was written in the law of the Lord,"were written in his country’ s history 2Ch 35:26, 2Ch 35:7; for him the prophet "Jeremiah wrote a dirge"2Ch 35:25; "all"the minstrels of his country "spake of him in their dirges"2Ch 35:25. The dirges were "made an ordinance"which survived the captivity; "to this day"2Ch 35:25, it is said at the close of the Chronicles. Among the gathering sorrows of Israel, this lament over Josiah was written in the national collection of "dirges"2Ch 35:25. "Hadadrimmon,"as being compounded of the name of two Syrian idols, is, in its name, a witness how Syrian idolatry penetrated into the kingdom, when it was detached from the worship of God. It was (Jerome) "a city near Jezreel, now called Maximinianopolis in the plain of Megiddon, in which the righteous king Josiah was wounded by Pharaoh Necho."This "was 17 miles from Caesarea, 10 from Esdraelon."Its name still survives in a small village, south of Megiddon , and so, on the way back to Jerusalem.

Poole: Zec 12:11 - -- In that day when the Jews shall know, own, and mourn for their sins and for that great sin in crucifying the Lord of glory, shall there be a great mo...

In that day when the Jews shall know, own, and mourn for their sins and for that great sin in crucifying the Lord of glory, shall there be a great mourning; a very great mourning, which is expressed by the greatest the Jews ever were acquainted with. and which for its greatness grew up into a proverb:

The mourning of Hadadrimmon or the mourning for Josiah slain at Hadadrimmon, a town in the valley of Megiddon. Of this mourning see 2Ch 35:24,25 .

Haydock: Zec 12:11 - -- Adadremmon. A place near Mageddon, where the good king Josias was slain, and much lamented by his people. (Challoner) --- It was not far from Jezr...

Adadremmon. A place near Mageddon, where the good king Josias was slain, and much lamented by his people. (Challoner) ---

It was not far from Jezrahel, 2 Paralipomenon xxxv. The lamentation for Josias represents that of impenitent sinners at the day of judgment. (St. Jerome) (Worthington) ---

Septuagint translate the proper names, "of the pomegranate which is cut down in the field." (Haydock) ---

All from ver. 8 may be explained of Judas.

Gill: Zec 12:11 - -- In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem,.... Great numbers being awakened, convinced, and converted, and brought to true repentance: ...

In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem,.... Great numbers being awakened, convinced, and converted, and brought to true repentance:

as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon. Lightfoot i thinks the prophet alludes to the two great and general lamentations of Israel; the one about the rock Rimmon, where a whole tribe was come to four hundred (it should be six hundred) men, Jdg 20:47 and may be rendered, "the sad shout of Rimmon"; and the other in the valley of Megiddo, for the death of Josiah. Some take Hadadrimmon to be the name of a man, as Aben Ezra; and the Targum and Jarchi say who he was, and also make two mournings to be alluded to k; paraphrasing the words thus,

"at that time mourning shall be multiplied in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Ahab the son of Omri, whom Hadadrimmon the son of Tabrimmon slew in Ramothgilead; and as the mourning of Josiah, the son of Amon, whom Pharaohnecho, or the lame, slew in the valley of Megiddo:''

and so the Syriac version renders it,

"as the mourning of the son of Amon in the valley of Megiddo.''

Of the first of these, see 1Ki 22:31 and of the latter, 2Ki 23:29 according to Jerom, it was the name of a place in the valley of Megiddo, near to Jezreel; and which, in his time, went by the name of Maximianopolis, called so in honour of the Emperor Maximian; it was seventeen miles from Caesarea in Palestine, and ten miles from Jezreel l; and mention is made by Jewish m writers of the valley of Rimmon, in which place the elders intercalated the year; though Jerom elsewhere n says, that Adadrimon was a king, the son of Tabrimmon, who reigned at Carchemish, whom Pharaohnecho slew at the same time he slew Josiah. Both words, Hadad, or Adad, and Rimmon, are names of idols with the Syrians.

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Commentary -- Verse Notes / Footnotes

NET Notes: Zec 12:11 For location see Map1 D4; Map2 C1; Map4 C2; Map5 F2; Map7 B1.

Geneva Bible: Zec 12:11 In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the ( h ) mourning of ( i ) Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon. ( h ) They will excee...

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Commentary -- Verse Range Notes

TSK Synopsis: Zec 12:1-14 - --1 Jerusalem a cup of trembling to herself,3 and a burdensome stone to her adversaries.6 The victorious restoring of Judah.10 The repentance of Jerusal...

MHCC: Zec 12:9-14 - --The day here spoken of, is the day of Jerusalem's defence and deliverance, that glorious day when God will appear for the salvation of his people. In ...

Matthew Henry: Zec 12:9-14 - -- The day here spoken of is the day of Jerusalem's defence and deliverance, that glorious day when God will appear for the salvation of his people, ...

Keil-Delitzsch: Zec 12:11-14 - -- In Zec 12:11-14 the magnitude and universality of the mourning are still further depicted. Zec 12:11. "In that day the mourning in Jerusalem will b...

Constable: Zec 9:1--14:21 - --V. Oracles about the Messiah and Israel's future chs. 9--14 This part of Zechariah contains two undated oracles ...

Constable: Zec 12:1--14:21 - --B. The burden concerning Israel: the advent and acceptance of Messiah chs. 12-14 This last section of th...

Constable: Zec 12:1-14 - --1. The repentance of Judah ch. 12 This chapter consist of two parts: Israel's deliverance (vv. 1...

Constable: Zec 12:10-14 - --Israel's national conversion 12:10-14 The focus now changes from physical to spiritual deliverance (cf. Deut. 30:1-10). 12:10 The Lord also promised t...

Guzik: Zec 12:1-14 - --Zechariah 12 - Mourning For The Pierced One A. God defends Israel against her enemies. 1. (1-4) God supernaturally defends Israel against attack. ...

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Introduction / Outline

JFB: Zechariah (Book Introduction) THE name Zechariah means one whom Jehovah remembers: a common name, four others of the same name occurring in the Old Testament. Like Jeremiah and Eze...

JFB: Zechariah (Outline) INTRODUCTORY EXHORTATION TO REPENTANCE. THE VISION. The man among the myrtles: Comforting explanation by the angel, an encouragement to the Jews to b...

TSK: Zechariah 12 (Chapter Introduction) Overview Zec 12:1, Jerusalem a cup of trembling to herself, Zec 12:3, and a burdensome stone to her adversaries; Zec 12:6, The victorious restorin...

Poole: Zechariah (Book Introduction) THE ARGUMENT Zechariah is the second prophet who cometh from God to the returned captives, and his errand to them was both to second Haggai’ s...

Poole: Zechariah 12 (Chapter Introduction) CHAPTER 12 Jerusalem a cup of trembling, and a burdensome stone, to the confusion of her adversaries, Zec 12:1-5 . The victorious restoring of Juda...

MHCC: Zechariah (Book Introduction) This prophecy is suitable to all, as the scope is to reprove for sin, and threaten God's judgments against the impenitent, and to encourage those that...

MHCC: Zechariah 12 (Chapter Introduction) (Zec 12:1-8) Punishment of the enemies of Judah. (Zec 12:9-14) Repentance and sorrow of the Jews.

Matthew Henry: Zechariah (Book Introduction) An Exposition, with Practical Observations, of The Prophecy of Zechariah This prophet was colleague with the prophet Haggai, and a worker together wit...

Matthew Henry: Zechariah 12 (Chapter Introduction) The apostle (Gal 4:25, Gal 4:26) distinguishes between " Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children" - the remaining carcase of t...

Constable: Zechariah (Book Introduction) Introduction Title and Writer The title of this book comes from its traditional writer...

Constable: Zechariah (Outline) Outline I. Introduction 1:1-6 II. The eight night visions and four messages 1:7-6:8 ...

Constable: Zechariah Zechariah Bibliography Alexander, Ralph H. "Hermeneutics of Old Testament Apocalyptic Literature." Th.D. disser...

Haydock: Zechariah (Book Introduction) THE PROPHECY OF ZACHARIAS. INTRODUCTION. Zacharias began to prophesy in the same year as Aggeus, and upon the same occasion. His prophecy i...

Gill: Zechariah (Book Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO ZECHARIAH This book is in the Hebrew copies called "the Book of Zechariah"; in the Vulgate Latin version, "the Prophecy of Zecharia...

Gill: Zechariah 12 (Chapter Introduction) INTRODUCTION TO ZECHARIAH 12 This chapter contains a prophecy of the defence, protection, and salvation of the church of God; and of the effusion o...

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